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GENE
On many scriptures I have disagreed with you on, and not only me but others have also
ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN WORDS ;ALL OF THEM
he can not make sense from scriptures alone, there were many many, textual changes made by trinitarian, and preexistences scribes trying to combat the original teachings
SINCE YOU DO NOT TRUST GOD’S WORD THERE IS NO WAY YOU EVER GOING TO COME TO THE TRUTH IN SCRIPTURES FOR YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU BLAME OTHER DID
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if you cannot support what you believe in scriptures without changing the meaning of the scriptures you do not have the truth of God but only yours ;
the only place where God’s truth can be found is in the scriptures,;Jn 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.
anything else would make Christ a liar right ? yes
Where does wisdom speak from?
K
Where does wisdom speak from?
THE WORD WISDOM COMES FROM THE WORD “WISE”
AND SO THEIR ARE WISE MEN IN THE WORLD ;ACCORDING TO THE SCIENCE OF THE WORLD ,THIS WISDOM WILL ONLY LAST UNTIL THE END ,
AND SO THEIR IS WISE MEN ACCORDING TO THEIR VERY OWN VIEWS ,AND EGO, THESE MEN ARE NOT TO H\INHERIT EVERLASTING LIFE
BUT THE WISDOM OF THE WISE OF GOD COMES FROM GOD AND SO THEIR WISDOM WILL LAST FOR ETERNITYT,
When those wise speak true then they dispense godly wisdom but when they speak false then they dispense worldly wisdom. I was speaking of godly wisdom in general. It is mentioned in such passages as Proverbs 1:20 and Proverbs 8:1.
K
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When those wise speak true then they dispense godly wisdom but when they speak false then they dispense worldly wisdom. I was speaking of godly wisdom in general. It is mentioned in such passages as Proverbs 1:20 and Proverbs 8:1.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS ONES ;
Pr 1:2 for attaining wisdom and discipline;
for understanding words of insight;
Pr 1:3 for acquiring a disciplined and prudent life,
doing what is right and just and fair;
Pr 1:4 for giving prudence to the simple,
knowledge and discretion to the young—
Pr 1:5 let the wise listen and add to their learning,
and let the discerning get guidance—
Pr 1:6 for understanding proverbs and parables,
the sayings and riddles of the wise.NOW ;
Pr 8:1 Does not wisdom call out?
Does not understanding raise her voice?
Pr 8:2 On the heights along the way,
where the paths meet, she takes her stand;THE ABOVE WISDOM DOES NOT SEEMS TO BE THE SAME ONE THAT IN PROV 1; THIS ONE IS FROM GOD ONLY
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Never the less they are both the same and you can hear wisdom in many places as well as Scripture.
KERWIN
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Never the less they are both the same and you can hear wisdom in many places as well as Scripture.
THANKS FOR YOUR OPINION ,BUT YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING IN SCRIPTURES ALL YOU SEE IN IT IS MAN MADE INCLUDING YOU FOR YOU HAVE THE BIG “I”
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Proverbs 8:1-4New English Translation (NET Bible)
The Appeal of Wisdom8 Does not wisdom call out?
Does not understanding raise her voice?
2 At the top of the elevated places along the way,
at the intersection of the paths she takes her stand;
3 beside the gates opening into the city,
at the entrance of the doorways she cries out:
4 “To you, O people, I call out,
and my voice calls to all mankind.Does wisdom speak besides the city gates, at the top of hills along the way, at intersections of roads and walkways, at the entrances of doorways?
If she does then that is what I am claiming and so I am claiming only what this passage says.
Kerwin…….Brother Pierre, just simply does not get it. You are completely right, wisdom is everwhere, not just in scriptures, nearly everything in God’s whole creation works with wisdom of some kind or it simply could not exist.
Peace and love to you and yours……………..gene
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SO YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT THE WISDOM OF ONE VERSE IS NOT THE SAME THAN THE OTHER RIGHT ?
That is not my point but I saw no reason to go into it.
My point is that Scripture itself tells us that wisdom can be heard in many places and not just in Scripture. Those who serve God are to learn to discern wisdom wherever it may be heard.
K
My point is that Scripture itself tells us that wisdom can be heard in many places and not just in Scripture. Those who serve God are to learn to discern wisdom wherever it may be heard.
THIS IS PROVE THAT YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING AND SO COULD NOT AGREE WITH ME ;
YOUR VIEW IS A VIEW OF CARNAL MEN ; YOU WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND
T,
It proves only that I want address one situation where I see your teaching disagreeing with Scripture and not another one. I do disagree with you on you claim that Proverbs 8 and Proverbs 1 are speaking of two different type of wisdom. If I remember you claim that Proverbs 8 is speaking about the preexistent Christ even though it is clearly not. Is that belief of your why you do not want to acknowledge that Proverbs 8 and Proverbs 1 are speaking of the same wisdom even though they use similar words in Proverbs 1:20 and Proverbs 8:1? That belief of yours had slipped from my mind.
K
It proves only that I want address one situation where I see your teaching disagreeing with Scripture and not another one. I do disagree with you on you claim that Proverbs 8 and Proverbs 1 are speaking of two different type of wisdom. If I remember you claim that Proverbs 8 is speaking about the preexistent Christ even though it is clearly not. Is that belief of your why you do not want to acknowledge that Proverbs 8 and Proverbs 1 are speaking of the same wisdom even though they use similar words in Proverbs 1:20 and Proverbs 8:1? That belief of yours had slipped from my mind.
YOU ARE WRONG FOR IT IS ONLY PROVERB 8 ;22-31 THAT SPEAKS OF CHRIST ;
BUT AS I SAID PROVERB 8;1 AS I SHOWED YOU AND PROVERB 1;1-4 DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THE SAME WISDOM ;NOW BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT ;BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS
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YOU ARE WRONG FOR IT IS ONLY PROVERB 8 ;22-31 THAT SPEAKS OF CHRIST ;
Fine, thank you for letting me know my error.
BUT AS I SAID PROVERB 8;1 AS I SHOWED YOU AND PROVERB 1;1-4 DOES NOT TALK ABOUT THE SAME WISDOM
Since my suspicions for your reason were wrong would you please tell me why you think they are different?
K
you do not believe God as protected his written word for us since the beginning ,and you argue with them ,and do not trust them ,
read those scriptures and see what they teach you
Terricca……..God has provided enough in scripture for anyone lead by his spirit to see. So why do you still believe that Jesus prexisted his berth on this earth, and why do you believe he is a God then. Why do you have the standard ORTHODOX VIEW INSTEAD OF THE ADOPTIONIST VIEW?
PEACE AND LOVE TO YOU AND YOURS…………….gene
Gene
So why do you still believe that Jesus prexisted his berth on this earth, and why do you believe he is a God
but because God as protected that part in the scriptures for us to know who is his son ,
Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.JN 6:51 “ I am the living bread that came down out of heaven
Jn 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father.
IF JESUS AD TO RETURN TO HIS FATHER HE HAD TO COME FIRST RIGHT ? YES
DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT THOSE SCRIPTURES SAYING OR DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO BRING IN YOUR PERSONAL INTERPRETATION OF THEM SO THAT IT WOULD LINED UP WITH YOUR VIEW
IF SO, DO NOT CALL ME A DECIEVER FOR YOU ARE THE ONE ;
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you do not believe God as protected his written word for us since the beginning ,and you argue with them ,and do not trust them ,
read those scriptures and see what they teach you
God does not say he protects his written word. That is a teaching that is not of Scripture and yet you believe it is of God.
As for me I am of the opinion the church is hidden in her place at this time as I do not see her active. If the church is hidden then it is quite possible the truth is as well.
I still believe that the message of salvation can be found for those who diligently seek it. If you persevere in seeking with all your heart, spirit, and strength then you will find it.
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