The Greek Septuagint

[Wakeup]

It is frustrating,I just lost everything,but I'll get back to it.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

MikeB.

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So God, in telling the angels to worship God, said “Worship HIM” – not “Worship ME” ?

HIM IS A LIVING BEING;NOT JUST FIBRATIONS OF WORDS SPOKEN,AS MANY BELIEVE.HE HAS BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO BE WORSHIPPED.

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Also, who gave the Word (who you think IS God Himself) all that authority? Who is it that gives “God” authority, Wakeup?

IT IS GOD THAT GAVE HIS LIVING WORD AUTHORITY TO BE WORSHIPPED. ALL WILL SEE HIM COMING AS **THE WORD OF GOD**. GOD HIMSELF IS NOT COMING AGAIN,HE NEVER WAS ON EARTH. ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE WORD.

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And who is this “Father of GOD” that you are talking about? Are you saying that GOD has a Father of His own?

WHEN HIS LIVING WORD WAS MADE FLESH,GOD BECAME HIS FATHER. THE WORD WAS NOT HIS SON, UNTILL HE WAS BORN IN THE FLESH.HE *WAS* THE LIVING WORD OF GOD.

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Also, did you forget that it was the Word of God who told Satan to worship “the Lord your God”, and serve Him ONLY”?

JESUS WAS FLESH,AND ALL FLESH CAN BE TEMPTED,BECAUSE ALL FLESH HAS ITS OWN DESIRES.
BUT HE IS FAITHFUL TO HIS FATHER.

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Do you suppose it was really “God Himself”, as the Word, who told Satan those words? And if the Word who told these things to Satan was actually God Himself, then how could Satan even hope to tempt him?

GOD WAS SPEAKING THROUGH HIS WORD IN THE FLESH.
WHAT I HEAR MY FATHER SAY;THAT I SAY.
WHAT I SEE MY FATHER DO; THAT I DO. I CAN NOT DO ANYTHING BY MY SELF.HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.

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Wakeup, your doctrine is following the path of the Trinitarians. You have also ended up with Jesus, the Son OF God, being God Himself – just like they did.

NOT SO: TRINIES BELIEVE:

1.GOD THE FATHER IS GOD.
2.JESUS IS ALSO GOD THE FATHER.(GOD DIED ON THE
CROSS).
3.THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD.(HE MUST HAVE DIED ON THE
CROSS AS WELL.
THEY CAN NOT SEE THE DEEP MYSTERY.
WHO JESUS REALLY IS, AND WHO GOD REALLY IS.

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And just like with the Trinity Doctrine, the doctrine you are developing is loaded with nonsensical and unscriptural claims.

AT THE MOMENT YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND.
BUT THE PROOF WILL BE, WHEN HE COMES AS THE LIVING WORD OF GOD. GOD IS NOT COMING,BUT HIS WORD IS.

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Just like their doctrine, yours calls for God Almighty Himself being crucified and killed by puny human beings. And then God, who was killed, somehow raises HIMSELF up from the dead, and exalts HIMSELF to the highest place in heaven……… at the right hand of “God”.

NOT SO: THE LORD OF HOST IS HIS REDEEMER.
HE HAS REDEEMED JESUS FROM THE GRAVE.

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the ***LORD the King of Israel***, ***and his redeemer*** the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
THE WORD,THE KING OF ISRAEL, AND HIS REDEEMER,THE LORD OF HOST SPEAKING.

HE SPOKE TO MOSES,AND TO THE PROPHETS.
HE ALSO WAS IN THE FLESH(NOT BORN), BY THE NAME OF MELCHISEDEK,AND MET ABRAHAM.

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Come out of her, my friend.

BABYLON IS THE CITY OF CONFUSION WHER ALL THE
PEOPLE WITH ALL THEIR MATERIAL LUST, AND FLASE GODS
DWELL. THE BELOVED CITY, BECAUSE OF HER DELICACIES.
GREAT AND SMALL ARE CONFUSED.

DONT DEPEND ON THEIR SPIRITUAL INFORMATION,FOR THEY ARE ANTICHRISTS. YOU WILL BE CONFUSED.
FEED ON CHRIST. BY FOOD AND DRINK FROM CHRIST WITH NO MONEY.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

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Quote (mikeboll @ 64) So God, in telling the angels to worship God, said “Worship HIM” – not “Worship ME” ? HIM IS A LIVING BEING………

And is “HIM” God Almighty Himself?  Or someone OTHER THAN God Almighty Himself?

Let's start with only that one, Wakeup.

I want to know if this Word IS actually God Almighty Himself………. or if this Word IS NOT God Almighty Himself.

WHICH ONE PLEASE?

[mikeboll64]

Okay Wakeup,

All the things you say indicate that the Word OF God is not actually God Almighty Himself…… but a DIFFERENT person.

Here are some examples of what you said:

IT IS GOD THAT GAVE HIS LIVING WORD AUTHORITY TO BE WORSHIPPED.

So “God”, ONE PERSON, authorized us to worship “His living Word”, a DIFFERENT PERSON.

WHEN HIS LIVING WORD WAS MADE FLESH,GOD BECAME HIS FATHER.

The phrase “HIS living word” tells us that this living word is not actually the GOD to whom he BELONGS.  (Hence the word “HIS”)

Also, you claim that “GOD” did not become flesh, and that “GOD” is the FATHER of the one who did become flesh.

Both of those things tell us that this one who became flesh is NOT actually “GOD”.

JESUS WAS FLESH,AND ALL FLESH CAN BE TEMPTED…….  BUT HE IS FAITHFUL TO HIS FATHER.

These words tell us that it wasn't actually “GOD” who was tempted, and that “GOD” is someone OTHER THAN the Word…….. ie: God is the one to whom the Word was faithful.

GOD WAS SPEAKING THROUGH HIS WORD IN THE FLESH.
WHAT I HEAR MY FATHER SAY;THAT I SAY.
WHAT I SEE MY FATHER DO; THAT I DO. I CAN NOT DO ANYTHING BY MY SELF.HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.

These things tell us that “GOD” is someone OTHER THAN the Word, and that “GOD” spoke THROUGH the Word.

You go on to clarify that this Word has a FATHER, and that FATHER is the one who actually is “GOD”.

So as you can see, you over and over clarify for us that “the Word OF God” is not actually “GOD Almighty Himself” – but instead someone OTHER THAN “God Almighty Himself”.

Are we agreed on this part?  YES or NO?

Because that's ALL I want to know right now, Wakeup.  

Is the Word God Almighty Himself?  Or someone OTHER THAN God Almighty Himself?  WHICH ONE? ! ?

[mikeboll64]

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TRINIES BELIEVE: 1.GOD THE FATHER IS GOD. 2.JESUS IS ALSO GOD THE FATHER.(GOD DIED ON THE  CROSS).

Wrong.  You are describing the “Oneness Doctrine” – not the Trinity Doctrine.

The Trinitarians believe that the Son is a DIFFERENT PERSON than the Father, but that they are both persons in a single Godhead of three.

Your doctrine is similar in that you also believe the Son and the Father are both “God Almighty Himself”.

[mikeboll64]

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NOT SO: THE LORD OF HOST IS HIS REDEEMER. HE HAS REDEEMED JESUS FROM THE GRAVE.

So then “Jesus” was NOT the “God” who redeemed him from the grave?

Are you saying that “Jesus” was someone OTHER THAN the God who redeemed Jesus?

[mikeboll64]

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BABYLON IS THE CITY OF CONFUSION………..

Yes. And that is why I urge you to come out of her, because much of her confusion has already rubbed off on you.

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,09:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,01:04) BABYLON IS THE CITY OF CONFUSION……….. Yes.  And that is why I urge you to come out of her, because much of her confusion has already rubbed off on you.

Mike B.

This is strange indeed.

You have purposefully turned my explanations into
a mixed fruit salad.
Just to make me look silly.It's not working.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

I didn't have to do a single thing to make your explanations look like a mixed up fruit salad, Wakeup. You've done that all by yourself.

I'm only asking for CLARITY about the things you claim.

Why is it so hard for you to answer SIMPLE questions about the doctrine YOU preach to us?

I want to know if the Word of God IS God Almighty Himself, or someone OTHER THAN God Almighty Himself.

When the Word was on earth, was the Word “God Almighty Himself”………….. or NOT? Which one?

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2013,08:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2013,01:04) Quote (mikeboll @ 64) So God, in telling the angels to worship God, said “Worship HIM” – not “Worship ME” ? HIM IS A LIVING BEING……… And is “HIM” God Almighty Himself?  Or someone OTHER THAN God Almighty Himself? Let's start with only that one, Wakeup. I want to know if this Word IS actually God Almighty Himself………. or if this Word IS NOT God Almighty Himself. WHICH ONE PLEASE?

MIke B.

The being with God before creation is **God's Word**
in His own image.
He does what ever God thinks.
He is not God; but his Word,in a living form.

He was made flesh and does whatever God thinks.
God and His Word is one. God's Word *proceeded out* of God.He came forth from God.

THE WORD OF GOD IS EVER THE WORD OF GOD.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

w

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The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks.

how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me

how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF beats me

how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF BEATS ME

is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05)

w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of

T.

I can understand how the truth beats you.
God can not do everything to your understanding.
1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case.
2.God can not give His living Word a form.
3.Are there more things you can add to the list?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup.

w

just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ;

IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:17)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup. w just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ; IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS

T.

Your said:
1. God can not create evil.

Your said:
2.God can not give His living Word a form,that beats me.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup. w just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ; IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS T.    Your said: 1. God can not create evil. Your said: 2.God can not give His living Word a form,that beats me. wakeup.

W

IT COULD THAT IT BEAT YOU ;BUT IT IS THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES ;

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:33)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:18) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup. w just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ; IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS T.    Your said: 1. God can not create evil. Your said: 2.God can not give His living Word a form,that beats me. wakeup. W IT COULD THAT IT BEAT YOU ;BUT IT IS THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES ;

T.

Still will not believe that God created all things.
And that includes evil.
Still will not believe that God can not do everything.
Still will not believe that God created lucifer; and that he knew will be evil.

Still will not believe that God knew, the serpent is going to tempt Eve.The innocent Eve that dont know what death means,for she has never seen death.
Still will not believe that God created the waster to destroy.
Still will not believe that God kills and make alive.
What else is there that God can not do?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:28)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:18) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup. w just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ; IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS T.    Your said: 1. God can not create evil. Your said: 2.God can not give His living Word a form,that beats me. wakeup. W IT COULD THAT IT BEAT YOU ;BUT IT IS THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES ; T. Still will not believe that God created all things. And that includes evil. Still will not believe that God can not do everything. Still will not believe that God created lucifer; and that he knew will be evil. Still will not believe that God knew, the serpent is going to tempt Eve.The innocent Eve that dont know what death means,for she has never seen death. Still will not believe that God created the waster to destroy. Still will not believe that God kills and make alive. What else is there that God can not do? wakeup.

w

if you only could understand what you are saying

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:13)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:28) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:18) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup. w just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ; IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS T.    Your said: 1. God can not create evil. Your said: 2.God can not give His living Word a form,that beats me. wakeup. W IT COULD THAT IT BEAT YOU ;BUT IT IS THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES ; T. Still will not believe that God created all things. And that includes evil. Still will not believe that God can not do everything. Still will not believe that God created lucifer; and that he knew will be evil. Still will not believe that God knew, the serpent is going to tempt Eve.The innocent Eve that dont know what death means,for she has never seen death. Still will not believe that God created the waster to destroy. Still will not believe that God kills and make alive. What else is there that God can not do? wakeup. w if you only could understand what you are saying

T.

The truth is foreign to you.
The truth is a stranger.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:19)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:28) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:18) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup. w just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ; IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS T.    Your said: 1. God can not create evil. Your said: 2.God can not give His living Word a form,that beats me. wakeup. W IT COULD THAT IT BEAT YOU ;BUT IT IS THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES ; T. Still will not believe that God created all things. And that includes evil. Still will not believe that God can not do everything. Still will not believe that God created lucifer; and that he knew will be evil. Still will not believe that God knew, the serpent is going to tempt Eve.The innocent Eve that dont know what death means,for she has never seen death. Still will not believe that God created the waster to destroy. Still will not believe that God kills and make alive. What else is there that God can not do? wakeup. w if you only could understand what you are saying T. The truth is foreign to you. The truth is a stranger. wakeup.

w

the Israelite s burned children to Baal ,things that God could not think they do a thing like that ,

and you should understand by now that a God that his MERCIFUL,AND LOVE ,CANNOT POSSIBLY BE THE AUTHOR OF CREATING “EVIL” BECAUSE IT DOES NOT TAKE POWER TO BE EVIL OR DO EVIL ,BUT YOU HAVE TO BE EVIL

GOT THIS NOW

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,11:41)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,08:28) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,07:18) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,10:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,06:05) w Quote The being with God before creation is **God's Word** in His own image. He does what ever God thinks. how could God's wording become separated from God himself beat s me how can words become an IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF  beats me how can those words become an image that now can think like GOD HIMSELF   BEATS ME is any of this supported by actual scriptures of cause NOT that i know of T. I can understand how the truth beats you. God can not do everything to your understanding. 1. God can not create evil,for he is limited in this case. 2.God can not give His living Word a form. 3.Are there more things you can add to the list? wakeup. w just to remind you that my answers are based on your opinions NOT THE SCRIPTURES ; IF YOU WOULD USE SCRIPTURES I WOULD RESPOND TO THEM ,BUT THIS TIME LIKE MOST OF THE TIME YOU GIVE OPINIONS STATEMENTS T.    Your said: 1. God can not create evil. Your said: 2.God can not give His living Word a form,that beats me. wakeup. W IT COULD THAT IT BEAT YOU ;BUT IT IS THE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURES ; T. Still will not believe that God created all things. And that includes evil. Still will not believe that God can not do everything. Still will not believe that God created lucifer; and that he knew will be evil. Still will not believe that God knew, the serpent is going to tempt Eve.The innocent Eve that dont know what death means,for she has never seen death. Still will not believe that God created the waster to destroy. Still will not believe that God kills and make alive. What else is there that God can not do? wakeup. w if you only could understand what you are saying T. The truth is foreign to you. The truth is a stranger. wakeup. w the Israelite s burned children to Baal ,things that God could not think they do a thing like that , and you should understand by now that a God that his MERCIFUL,AND LOVE ,CANNOT POSSIBLY BE THE AUTHOR OF CREATING “EVIL”  BECAUSE IT DOES NOT TAKE POWER TO BE EVIL OR DO EVIL ,BUT YOU HAVE TO BE EVIL GOT THIS NOW

T.

God inspired all the prophesies about the future.
And you say God could not have known that children will be sacrificed??
They are still sacrificing children today.
They are the worshippers of Lucifer.
And God knows.

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