The great deceit

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 21 2013,01:44)

Terricca………Being an (IMAGE) of any thing it NOT actually BEING IT, now is it? Go look up the word IMAGE, before you go mouthing off about it. IMAGE is to MIRROR OR REFLECT, BUT IS. “NEVER ” THE “OBJECT ” it reflects. Jesus was never the GOD, Who was IN him doing HIS work “THROUGH” HIM. Had you understood what Timothy meant by saying my Lord “AND” my GOD You would have come to truly understand that God the father was indeed “IN” Jesus. But that never made Jesus a GOD of any kind, or the God that was “IN” Him. Answer this scripture Pierre…… 1Cor 8:4  we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but “ONE”. Now tell me Pierre do you truly believe scriptures when you see them? do you really love truth? or only what you can piece together in your own mind. Show us ONE scripture where Jesus ever said, he was a GOD or he was the God that was “IN” him, You act Like you love truth but it appears you actually hate it. Because you do not except what God the father said about Himself , and Jesus said about Him , and what the apostles also said about God either. Nor the scriptures I just posted either. Gene

gene

1Co 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord,Jesus Christ, through whom all things came  and through whom we live.
1Co 8:7 But not everyone knows this.

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

it seems your own quoted scriptures are against you by reading the context ,

the truth must be through the entire scriptures not only in your mind Gene ,

now if God and Christ 'WORDS ARE IN YOUR HEART AND MIND AS WELL AS IN YOUR ACTIONS ;;;THEN AND ONLY THEN GOD AND CHRIST LIVES IN YOU AND AS PROMISED BY CHRIST ;THAT ANYONE THAT BELIEVE IN HIM WILL LIVE ;THEN YOU WILL LIVE BY YOUR TRUE FAITH IN THEM,

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca……..so do you know that an Idol is nothing in the world, and that there is “NO” God but “ONE”. or have you just thrown that part out as you have many others, trying to change subject matter by pumping other scriptures that has nothing to do whit what I and others are saying is just a ploy you use all the time to twist up what we are saying, you pump out a whole bunch of none related scriptures to try to give off the image you know what your talking about and to change the direct subject matters being discussed. As I have said here before it is hard to catch a snake in a Bier patch, he has to many place to run away. IMO

Peace and love……………………….gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 21 2013,06:51)

Terricca……..so do you know that an Idol is nothing in the world, and that there is “NO” God but “ONE”. or have you just thrown that part out as you have many others, trying to change subject matter by pumping other scriptures that has nothing to do whit what I and others are saying is just a ploy you use all the time to twist up what we are saying, you pump out a whole bunch of none related scriptures to try to give off the image you know what your talking about and to change the direct subject matters being discussed. As I have said here before it is hard to catch a snake in a Bier patch, he has to many place to run away. IMO Peace and love……………………….gene

Gene

i do not disclaim that their is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD ” AND THAT HIS NAME IS JEHOVAH ,AND THAT HE CREATED ALL THINGS,

but the scriptures ALSO SAYS THAT HE HIS ;THE GOD OF GODS ,AND LORD OF LORDS ,

so if scriptures are true then who are the gods that God he's the God over

i am well aware of idoles being nothing but those are not called gods right ???yes

[terraricca]

So gene who are those gods Over which the true God is God over

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2013,22:05)

I am fighting my decease and the treatment they have given me , But as for an answere to your request ,I have answered them all ,but you have done what skeptics do wipe out all my scriptures and replaced it with your own version of view, And so kill all truth ,so you are on your own ,

Thank you Pierre,
but a simple thank you for asking would of been something good coming from a christian, no matter who cared enough to ask if you're ok?

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 22 2013,16:49)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2013,22:05) I am fighting my decease and the treatment they have given me , But as for an answere to your request ,I have answered them all ,but you have done what skeptics do wipe out all my scriptures and replaced it with your own version of view, And so kill all truth ,so you are on your own , Thank you Pierre, but a simple thank you for asking would of been something good coming from a christian, no matter who cared enough to ask if you're ok?

j42

you are absolutely right ,and i am sorry to have mis it ,but at that time I felt crappy and in pain ,I was not my whole self ,

so thanks

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2013,22:12)

That's ok, thank you Pierre. Glad you're ok now.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Oct. 23 2013,05:13)

terraricca,Oct. wrote: [/quote] That's ok, thank you Pierre.  Glad you're ok now.

[terraricca]

gene

[Wakeup]

Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone.

Please explain this scripture if you can.

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

wakeup.

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2013,16:18)

So gene who are those gods Over which the true God is God over

Terricca…….I have tried to explain the Word God over and over here, but i will try again.

The word  God employ's  two meanings. In it's original form and you can not have a God with out “BOTH” meaning connected to it.
                         original Hebrew pictorial language
1…..Power………………..the head of an OX

2…..Sheppard's staff…….that which you lean on for support and trust In.

These Two meanings must be connected with the word God, you can not Just say Power along means a God or Trust alone means a God, both must be must be connected in the meaning of the word God.

Now with that understanding , anything can be a God to anyone, , your money, and idol, your wife , your religion, basically anything can that has POWER over you and What you Trust in can be your God.

But are they “TRUE God's NO they are not, so what are they then, they are FALSE God's even though to the person who worships them they are a True God to them.

But Our one and ONLY TRUE GOD is the God of those kind of Gods also. Those False GODS that men create in their own minds, that they give power over themselves and trust in.

Do you get my Point Pierre?

There is  ONLY ONE “TRUE” GOD So all the others, HAVE to BE  “FALSE” GOD”S. because there is ONLY ONE THAT IS A TRUE GOD.

Don't let Mike lead you down his rabbit hole he is in, by his carnal human reasoning's Pierre.  God the Father plainly said he looked for other Gods and found NONE, He said HE “ALONE” created everything in the World,alone and by himself, He also said I am God and there is NO other GOD You don't have to take my words for that but His own words and Jesus' and the Apostles and Prophets.  

Peace and love to you and your and i hope and Pray you beat your cancer Brother……………………..gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,16:23)

Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone. Please explain this scripture if you can. Isaiah 44:6   Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. wakeup.

this is fairly easy ,i wander why you ask

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 23 2013,22:24)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2013,16:18) So gene who are those gods Over which the true God is God over Terricca…….I have tried to explain the Word God over and over here, but i will try again. The word  God employ's  two meanings. In it's original form and you can not have a God with out “BOTH” meaning connected to it.                          original Hebrew pictorial language 1…..Power………………..the head of an OX 2…..Sheppard's staff…….that which you lean on for support and trust In. These Two meanings must be connected with the word God, you can not Just say Power along means a God or Trust alone means a God, both must be must be connected in the meaning of the word God. Now with that understanding , anything can be a God to anyone, , your money, and idol, your wife , your religion, basically anything can that has POWER over you and What you Trust in can be your God. But are they “TRUE God's NO they are not, so what are they then, they are FALSE God's even though to the person who worships them they are a True God to them. But Our one and ONLY TRUE GOD is the God of those kind of Gods also. Those False GODS that men create in their own minds, that they give power over themselves and trust in. Do you get my Point Pierre? There is  ONLY ONE “TRUE” GOD So all the others, HAVE to BE  “FALSE” GOD”S. because there is ONLY ONE THAT IS A TRUE GOD. Don't let Mike lead you down his rabbit hole he is in, by his carnal human reasoning's Pierre.  God the Father plainly said he looked for other Gods and found NONE, He said HE “ALONE” created everything in the World,alone and by himself, He also said I am God and there is NO other GOD You don't have to take my words for that but His own words and Jesus' and the Apostles and Prophets.   Peace and love to you and your and i hope and Pray you beat your cancer Brother……………………..gene

Gene

that is not the answer that is a total deviation from the scriptures ,and is changing the total meaning of scriptures ,

I ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION ,JUST ANSWERED IT IN A SIMPLE WAY ;

DO NOT TRY TO EXPLAIN SCRIPTURES WITH YOUR VERSION OF EVENT ,MEN'S VIEW ,THE SCRIPTURES (GOD)DOES NOT NEED YOUR EXPLANATION HE HIMSELF ANSWERS THE QUESTION ,

WITHIN WHAT HE SAYS ;

DT 10:17 “ For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.
PS 136:2 Give thanks to the God of gods,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
DA 2:47 The king answered Daniel and said, “Surely your God is a God of gods and a Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, since you have been able to reveal this mystery.”
DA 11:36 “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be

WHY IS IT THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO ANSWER MY QUESTION WITHOUT INVENTING A STORY THAT DOES NOT EXIST

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,03:43)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,16:23) Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone. Please explain this scripture if you can. Isaiah 44:6   Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. wakeup. this is fairly easy ,i wander why you ask

Terra.

I know it's easy.
When are you going to explain?

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,05:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,03:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,16:23) Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone. Please explain this scripture if you can. Isaiah 44:6   Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. wakeup. this is fairly easy ,i wander why you ask Terra. I know it's easy. When are you going to explain? wakeup.

wakeup

Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD(God almighty) the King of Israel, and his(God almighty) redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

God Almighty his THE KING AND THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL AND SO ALSO THE LORD OF HOST ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,12:33)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,05:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,03:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,16:23) Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone. Please explain this scripture if you can. Isaiah 44:6   Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. wakeup. this is fairly easy ,i wander why you ask Terra. I know it's easy. When are you going to explain? wakeup. wakeup Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD(God almighty) the King of Israel, and his(God almighty) redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. God Almighty his THE KING AND THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL AND SO ALSO THE LORD OF HOST ,

Terra.

—————————————————————–
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, ****AND**** his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and
***beside me there is no God***.(1+1=2). NOT 1.
—————————————————————–

*You say*: The king of israel is GOD ALMIGHTY.
His redeemer is also GOD ALMIGHTY.

Therefore: GOD ALMIGHTY **AND**
GOD ALMIGHTY.??

GOD ALMIGHTY, AND HIS REDEEMER;
IS *ALSO* GOD ALMIGHTY.??

Looks like a lot of babel.

Where are the others??

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,13:43)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,05:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,03:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,16:23) Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone. Please explain this scripture if you can. Isaiah 44:6   Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. wakeup. this is fairly easy ,i wander why you ask Terra. I know it's easy. When are you going to explain? wakeup. wakeup Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD(God almighty) the King of Israel, and his(God almighty) redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. God Almighty his THE KING AND THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL AND SO ALSO THE LORD OF HOST , Terra. —————————————————————– Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, ****AND**** his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and ***beside me there is no God***.(1+1=2). NOT 1. —————————————————————– *You say*: The king of israel is GOD ALMIGHTY.              His redeemer is also GOD ALMIGHTY.              Therefore: GOD ALMIGHTY **AND**                                 GOD ALMIGHTY.??                                GOD ALMIGHTY, AND HIS REDEEMER;                                IS *ALSO* GOD ALMIGHTY.??                                                                Looks like a lot of babel. Where are the others?? wakeup.

wakeup

why are you starting again ,with downgrading me in my response

with your opinions this as to stop ;

so please if you disagree show scriptures that says otherwise,

if not ,this mean that i am right in my interpretation of that scripture ;

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,04:31)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,13:43) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,05:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,03:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,16:23) Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone. Please explain this scripture if you can. Isaiah 44:6   Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. wakeup. this is fairly easy ,i wander why you ask Terra. I know it's easy. When are you going to explain? wakeup. wakeup Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD(God almighty) the King of Israel, and his(God almighty) redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. God Almighty his THE KING AND THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL AND SO ALSO THE LORD OF HOST , Terra. —————————————————————– Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, ****AND**** his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and ***beside me there is no God***.(1+1=2). NOT 1. —————————————————————– *You say*: The king of israel is GOD ALMIGHTY.              His redeemer is also GOD ALMIGHTY.              Therefore: GOD ALMIGHTY **AND**                                 GOD ALMIGHTY.??                                GOD ALMIGHTY, AND HIS REDEEMER;                                IS *ALSO* GOD ALMIGHTY.??                                                                Looks like a lot of babel. Where are the others?? wakeup. wakeup why are you starting again ,with downgrading me in my response with your opinions this as to stop ; so please if you disagree show scriptures that says otherwise, if not ,this mean that i am right in my interpretation of that scripture ;

Terra.

You can dish it out with no problem,
but can not take it if someone dish it back.

I will leave it to you, and the others to work it out.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 25 2013,04:11)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 25 2013,04:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,13:43) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,12:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 24 2013,05:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 24 2013,03:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,16:23) Mike/Kerwin/Terra/ anyone. Please explain this scripture if you can. Isaiah 44:6   Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. wakeup. this is fairly easy ,i wander why you ask Terra. I know it's easy. When are you going to explain? wakeup. wakeup Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD(God almighty) the King of Israel, and his(God almighty) redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. God Almighty his THE KING AND THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL AND SO ALSO THE LORD OF HOST , Terra. —————————————————————– Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, ****AND**** his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and ***beside me there is no God***.(1+1=2). NOT 1. —————————————————————– *You say*: The king of israel is GOD ALMIGHTY.              His redeemer is also GOD ALMIGHTY.              Therefore: GOD ALMIGHTY **AND**                                 GOD ALMIGHTY.??                                GOD ALMIGHTY, AND HIS REDEEMER;                                IS *ALSO* GOD ALMIGHTY.??                                                                Looks like a lot of babel. Where are the others?? wakeup. wakeup why are you starting again ,with downgrading me in my response with your opinions this as to stop ; so please if you disagree show scriptures that says otherwise, if not ,this mean that i am right in my interpretation of that scripture ; Terra. You can dish it out with no problem, but can not take it if someone dish it back. I will leave it to you, and the others to work it out. wakeup.

so no scriptures right

[Wakeup]

Terra.

You have failed to unravel it.
Therefore you have not been given the Holy spirit
to understand.
I thought you said it is easy.
Where are our brothers/sis?
Why the silence in the court?

wakeup.

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