The great deceit

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,08:09)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2014,04:40) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 14 2014,03:40) T. Not that easy. Your robe will only be washed when you have managed to refuse the mark. wakeup. SCRIPTURES DO NOT SAY THAT Well:  What does scripture say. Dont know? wakeup.

w

Rev 13:11 Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.
Rev 13:12 He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.
Rev 13:13 And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men.
Rev 13:14 Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
Rev 13:15 He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
Rev 13:16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,
Rev 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.

we know that the beast is not a world power ;but tell me ;when did this beast came to existence

[Wakeup]

T.

Which beast are you speaking off?
There are three types of beasts in revelation.

1.Four Beasts around God's throne.(cherobims).
2.Beasts as of empires/kingdoms.
3.Beast as of the false prophet.

Whicked men are also called brute beasts in the OT.

wakeup.

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2014,08:59)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,03:21) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2014,07:54) DECEIT COMES IN MANY FORM BUT ALWAYS STARTING FROM OUR OWN VIEW (S) SO READ THE SCRIPTURES WITHOUT YOUR OWN INPUT , The serpent deceived Eve with nice lying words. Watch for those that speaks nice words. There is a hook in the bait. Nice words that is poison to mans soul. wakeup. W UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS UP TO EVE TO ACCEPT THE SERPENT VERSION AND UP TO ADAM TO ACCEPT THE VERSION OF HIS WIFE OR THE VERSION OF GOD , WHAT VERSION WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN

Terricca………Adam and Eve had there eyes closed and did not know Good or Evil, for themselves, they lacked the wisdom to understand it. So when the decided to learn about good and evil for themselves, there “EYES Were “OPENED”, and they became aware of their Nakedness, and knew they should have a covering over their bodies, In Fact even God made them clothes and brought it to them. they could have stayed in their “BLIND STATE” for ever, but God put a Propensity in them to come out of it and grow by experiencing a higher level of intellect, To be like Him. Just as He said  “Look the Man has become as we are, to KNOW (experience) Good and Evil.. You say God did not create Evil but the Tree in the Garden was created by someone and put there by someone and i believe that was God himself who put it there..

Wakeup, I , and others, have shown you clear scripture, that said God created both Good and Evil as written in Isaiah, and other scriptures,  but you can't stand your God to be anything except what “YOU” want him to be, so you create this false image of him, that makes him NOT “SOVEREIGN” in “ALL” things, just the things you want him to be. A hip pocket God, to fit “YOUR” Needs.  

Wakeup has answer you correctly with many scriptures to back it up. But just as Journey said, you Just divert to some other subject, in order not to admit you are or “might”, be in error, you have done this so many times here,  i cant even begin to count them.  

Fact is you are not caring about the real truth it seems, or you would not divert, or change subject matter so much, away from scriptures posted to you. I have seen you do this many times here Pierre.  IMO

peace and love to you and yours ………………………..gene

[Wakeup]

Terra is a stumbling block.
An offence to the truth.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 20 2014,20:33)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2014,08:59) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,03:21) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2014,07:54) DECEIT COMES IN MANY FORM BUT ALWAYS STARTING FROM OUR OWN VIEW (S) SO READ THE SCRIPTURES WITHOUT YOUR OWN INPUT , The serpent deceived Eve with nice lying words. Watch for those that speaks nice words. There is a hook in the bait. Nice words that is poison to mans soul. wakeup. W UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS UP TO EVE TO ACCEPT THE SERPENT VERSION AND UP TO ADAM TO ACCEPT THE VERSION OF HIS WIFE OR THE VERSION OF GOD , WHAT VERSION WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN Terricca………Adam and Eve had there eyes closed and did not know Good or Evil, for themselves, they lacked the wisdom to understand it. So when the decided to learn about good and evil for themselves, there “EYES Were “OPENED”, and they became aware of their Nakedness, and knew they should have a covering over their bodies, In Fact even God made them clothes and brought it to them. they could have stayed in their “BLIND STATE” for ever, but God put a Propensity in them to come out of it and grow by experiencing a higher level of intellect, To be like Him. Just as He said  “Look the Man has become as we are, to KNOW (experience) Good and Evil.. You say God did not create Evil but the Tree in the Garden was created by someone and put there by someone and i believe that was God himself who put it there.. Wakeup, I , and others, have shown you clear scripture, that said God created both Good and Evil as written in Isaiah, and other scriptures,  but you can't stand your God to be anything except what “YOU” want him to be, so you create this false image of him, that makes him NOT “SOVEREIGN” in “ALL” things, just the things you want him to be. A hip pocket God, to fit “YOUR” Needs.    Wakeup has answer you correctly with many scriptures to back it up. But just as Journey said, you Just divert to some other subject, in order not to admit you are or “might”, be in error, you have done this so many times here,  i cant even begin to count them.   Fact is you are not caring about the real truth it seems, or you would not divert, or change subject matter so much, away from scriptures posted to you. I have seen you do this many times here Pierre.  IMO peace and love to you and yours ………………………..gene

GENE

IF YOU RIGHT THEN GOD AS PUNISH ADAM AND EVE WRONGLY ,BUT THAT ALSO YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND ,

SORRY BUT ALL YOU SAY IS NOT MENTION IN SCRIPTURES ,

AND I AS I TOLD YOU IS TRUE ;NONE OF THEM WERE FORCE INTO DISOBEYING TO GOD' S ORDER

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,22:38)

Terra is a stumbling block. An offence to the truth. wakeup.

THIS MAY FALL ON YOUR OWN HEAD

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,13:25)

T. Which beast are you speaking off? There are three types of beasts in revelation. 1.Four Beasts around God's throne.(cherobims). 2.Beasts as of empires/kingdoms. 3.Beast as of the false prophet. Whicked men are also called brute beasts in the OT. wakeup.

W

I have ask a stray and fair question ,so I call for a fair answer

stop running around ;there is only one beast in REVELATION 13;11-

[Wakeup]

T.

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stop running around ;there is only one beast in REVELATION 13;11-

Revelation 5:8 And when he had taken the book, ***the four beasts*** and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was ***like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear***, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld ***another beast*** coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Revelation 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the ***first beast before him***, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

1.Four beasts around the throne of God.
2.Beast with 7 heads and ten horns.
3.Beast out of the earth.

Its a good idea to start reading the bible.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 21 2014,08:49)

T. Quote stop running around ;there is only one beast in REVELATION 13;11- Revelation 5:8   And when he had taken the book, ***the four beasts*** and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. Revelation 13:2   And the beast which I saw was ***like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear***, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Revelation 13:11   And I beheld ***another beast*** coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.  Revelation 13:12   And he exerciseth all the power of the ***first beast before him***, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 1.Four beasts around the throne of God. 2.Beast with 7 heads and ten horns. 3.Beast out of the earth. Its a good idea to start reading the bible. wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 21 2014,15:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 21 2014,08:49) T. Quote stop running around ;there is only one beast in REVELATION 13;11- Revelation 5:8   And when he had taken the book, ***the four beasts*** and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. Revelation 13:2   And the beast which I saw was ***like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear***, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Revelation 13:11   And I beheld ***another beast*** coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.  Revelation 13:12   And he exerciseth all the power of the ***first beast before him***, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 1.Four beasts around the throne of God. 2.Beast with 7 heads and ten horns. 3.Beast out of the earth. Its a good idea to start reading the bible. wakeup.

T.

So; you are caught in your own trap again.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

THE GREAT TRIBULATION SHOULD BE CALLED THE “GREAT DECEIT ” FOR MANY ,CHRIST THOUGHT US THAT WE WILL AS TRUE BELIEVERS THROUGH TRIBULATION LIKE ADVERSITIES,DISCRIMINATION,INSULTS,MOCKERY,PRISON,EVEN DEATH IT SELF , AND THIS ALL THROUGH OUR LIFE'S FROM THE TIME WE ACCEPT CHRIST TO THE TIME WE DIE IN CHRIST .

IT IS TRUE THAT WE ALSO ARE EXPOSED TO THE TRIBULATION COMMON TO MEN ; FLOODS,EARTH QUAKES;VOLCANIC ACTIVITY ECT;

WE ALSO HAVE TO FEED AND SHELTER OUR SELVES ,CLOTHING, BUT GOD AS SAID HE BE WITH US SO IS HIS SON JESUS CHRIST

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 01 2014,09:44)

THE GREAT TRIBULATION SHOULD BE CALLED THE “GREAT DECEIT ” FOR MANY ,CHRIST THOUGHT US THAT WE WILL AS TRUE BELIEVERS THROUGH TRIBULATION LIKE ADVERSITIES,DISCRIMINATION,INSULTS,MOCKERY,PRISON,EVEN DEATH IT SELF , AND THIS ALL THROUGH OUR LIFE'S FROM THE TIME WE ACCEPT CHRIST TO THE TIME WE DIE IN CHRIST . IT IS TRUE THAT WE ALSO ARE EXPOSED TO THE TRIBULATION COMMON TO MEN ; FLOODS,EARTH QUAKES;VOLCANIC ACTIVITY ECT; WE ALSO HAVE TO FEED AND SHELTER OUR SELVES ,CLOTHING, BUT GOD AS SAID HE BE WITH US SO IS HIS SON JESUS CHRIST

Revelation 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season,
***until their fellowservants also and
their brethren***, ***that should be killed***
*as they were*, should be fulfilled.

Their fellow brethren WILL be murdered before the coming.
Some will be beheaded.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.
Rev 6:10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”
Rev 6:11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.

IT IS HARD FOR SOME TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES ,BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LOOK FOR TRUTH BUT FOR THEIR OWN PROJECTED UNDERSTANDING ,IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT THE SOULS UNDER THE ALTER ARE DEAD ALREADY WHEN THEY RECEIVE THEIR WHITE ROBE AND SO THEIR TRIBULATION HAD ENDED JUST AS IT SAYS IN VERSE 9 ; AND SO CLAIM TO BE AVENGED FOR WHAT THE WICKED AD DONE TO THEM ,AND SO ARE TOLD TO WAIT FOR THE COMPLETION OF THEIR TOTAL NUMBER (144K)

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 02 2014,00:06)

Rev 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. Rev 6:10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” Rev 6:11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed. IT IS HARD FOR SOME TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES ,BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LOOK FOR TRUTH BUT FOR THEIR OWN PROJECTED UNDERSTANDING ,IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT THE SOULS UNDER THE ALTER ARE DEAD ALREADY WHEN THEY RECEIVE  THEIR WHITE ROBE AND SO THEIR TRIBULATION HAD ENDED JUST AS IT SAYS IN VERSE 9 ; AND SO CLAIM TO BE AVENGED FOR WHAT THE WICKED AD DONE TO THEM ,AND SO ARE TOLD TO WAIT FOR THE COMPLETION OF THEIR TOTAL NUMBER (144K)

T.

The 144k will not have to go through the tribulation,
because they have followed the Lamb where so ever
He goeth in their lifetime.

Revelation 7:3 Saying, ***Hurt not the earth, neither the
sea, nor the trees***,

**till we have sealed the servants of our God in their
foreheads**.

Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

THEY ARE SEALED *BEFORE* THE FIRST TRUMPET IS SOUND.
SEVEN TUMPETS = SEVEN WRATHS OF GOD.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
Rev 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.”

[terraricca]

Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done

if we going to be judged according to what we have done ;does it not mean that we have to do something either good or bad to be able to be judged on

and what we do is what life in the flesh is all about it ; we work,we think ,we love,we worship, but God give us as well some can see it some do not care ,some do not want to see it ,

it is a long way from birth to death of old age about 70 -90 and our tribulation are many but did we forgot our creator or did we remember him in our youth ,did we give him the place that he deserves in that time of our tribulation

[Wakeup]

1.Christians will be judged at the coming.
The genuine christians will be resurrected.
The ones with lip service only; will be left.

2.The non christians will be left in the grave,untill the second
resurrection. They will be judged by the books.
The good on the right and the bad on the left.
(the sheep and goats)

3. The armageddon survivors *so called* christians will be
living outside the kingdom, with the rest of the non
christians.
They will multiply for a thousand years,taught by the jews
of the kingdom.(paradise to them) for they will be in the
flesh.

4.Christ and His saints will rule in the kingdom.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 01 2014,23:08)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 01 2014,09:44) THE GREAT TRIBULATION SHOULD BE CALLED THE “GREAT DECEIT ” FOR MANY ,CHRIST THOUGHT US THAT WE WILL AS TRUE BELIEVERS THROUGH TRIBULATION LIKE ADVERSITIES,DISCRIMINATION,INSULTS,MOCKERY,PRISON,EVEN DEATH IT SELF , AND THIS ALL THROUGH OUR LIFE'S FROM THE TIME WE ACCEPT CHRIST TO THE TIME WE DIE IN CHRIST . IT IS TRUE THAT WE ALSO ARE EXPOSED TO THE TRIBULATION COMMON TO MEN ; FLOODS,EARTH QUAKES;VOLCANIC ACTIVITY ECT; WE ALSO HAVE TO FEED AND SHELTER OUR SELVES ,CLOTHING, BUT GOD AS SAID HE BE WITH US SO IS HIS SON JESUS CHRIST Revelation 6:11   And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, ***until their fellowservants also and       their brethren***, ***that should be killed***        *as they were*, should be fulfilled. Their fellow brethren WILL be murdered before the coming. Some will be beheaded. wakeup.

Hi WU,
WE should ALL be beheaded.

We have another head, Jesus Christ, and we should have the mind of Christ.

[terraricca]

it is ;being killed for the preaching the truth of God's word that those are beheaded ,not for their political conviction in this world

[NickHassan]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 06 2014,13:33)

1.Christians will be judged at the coming.   The genuine christians will be resurrected.   The ones with lip service only; will be left. 2.The non christians will be left in the grave,untill the second   resurrection. They will be judged by the books.   The good on the right and the bad on the left.   (the sheep and goats) 3. The armageddon survivors *so called* christians will be    living outside the kingdom, with the rest of the non    christians.    They will multiply for a thousand years,taught by the jews    of the kingdom.(paradise to them) for they will be in the    flesh. 4.Christ and His saints will rule in the kingdom. wakeup.

Hi WU,
Those in whom the Spirit of life lives will be raised by that Spirit.

The 1000 year reign then occurs after the earth is cleansed.

The white throne judgement is after the 1000 years and is the final one, includes all men and only the pure remain.

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