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Hi CO,
Was Paul's gospel the same as Peter's but not the same as that of the Saviour?
What of James and Jude, Phillip and Andrew?
Were they all different gospels?
How many are there?Nick.
Don't keep asking the same question over and over. I've quoted them to you many times. Enough is enough.Blessings.
Hi CO,
2 Corinthians 9:13
Because of the proof given by this ministry, they will glorify God for your obedience to your confession of the gospel of Christ and for the liberality of your contribution to them and to all,1 Thessalonians 3:2
and we sent Timothy, our brother and God's fellow worker in the gospel of Christ, to strengthen and encourage you as to your faith,Looks as though Paul or you is confused as Paul is speaking of the gospel of Jesus to the Gentiles here.
But you will not have gentiles listen to the gospel of Jesus Christ
My guess is that it is you who is confused.Nick.
Correct translation of 1.Thess.3:2, …2 and we send Timothy, our brother and God's servant in the evangel of Christ, to establish and to console you for the sake of your faith.
And of 2.Cor.9:13, 13 through the testedness of this dispensation, glorifying God at the subjection of your avowal to the evangel of Christ, and in the generosity of the contribution for them and for all,The “evangel of Christ”, this is not the same as the Gospel Jesus taught to the “lost sheep of the house of Israel”. The gospel taught by Paul was “Christ crucified”, justifying all mankind. This is the Gospel of “Grace”. Nothing we can do will work, all is of God.
Not difficult to understand.
Blessings.
Hi CO,
The use of a sympathetic translation is essential to preservation of your doctrine?
Be brave and search a bit further and do not continue to attempt to divide the gospel of God.Hi,
The gospel of God revealed in Jesus Christ, His servant, and in the apostolic sons is one and consistent.
The universalist gospel is not that gospel but a new one.Gal1
6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Paul marvelled.
Some here too are being bewitched.Gal3
1O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?Hi,
It is interesting to me that now even the gospel of Jesus Christ is under attack.
Nothing is sacred and now it is time for those who care to stand up against these attacks.
That is what Paul did and that is what servants of the master and lord of all need to do in defense of truth.Matt.15:24 …Now He, answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Some say, not true!Ro.15:8 … For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.
Some say, this is not true.Ro.15:16 …for me (Paul) to be the minister of Christ Jesus for the nations, acting as a priest of the evangel of God
Some say, this is not true.Ro.14:11 …for it is written: Living am I, the Lord is saying, For to Me shall bow every knee, And every tongue shall be acclaiming God!
Some say, Only SOME will bow their knee, and only SOME tongues shall acclaim.1Cor.15:22 …22 For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.
Some say, this is not true, only “some” shall be vivified.2Cor.5:18-19 …Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
Some say, this is not true, we MUST REPENT!1Tim.2:4 …Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth.
Some say, God can't possibly do this.2Tim.2:10 …Therefore I am enduring all because of those who are chosen, that they also may be happening upon the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with glory eonian.
Some say, not so, we have to do something. God cannot just choose us!Eph.1:11 …in Him in Whom our lot was cast also, being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,
Some say, NO, we have a choice, it's OUR will that counts!Eph.2:10 …For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
Some say, “His achievment? No way, I repented, I asked forgiveness, I,I,I,…Eph.3:8-9 … To me, (Paul) less than the least of all saints, was granted this grace: to bring the evangel of the untraceable riches of Christ to the nations,
9 and to enlighten all as to what is the administration of the secret, which has been concealed from the eons in God, Who creates all,
Some say, a secrret?, something New? No way, Christs teachings were enough, it was the “eternal gospel”. No need for another!Col.1:25 …of which I became a dispenser, in accord with the administration of God, which is granted to me for you, to complete the word of God —
Some say, “complete the word of God?” Heresy! the eternal gospel is all we need!!!Gal.3:13 …Christ reclaims us from the curse of the law, becoming a curse for our sakes,
Some say, we must obey the law, repent, keep the feasts, be circumsized, ect. etc.Just a few scriptures that many will ignore if it does not fit in with what they believe
Blessings.
Hi CO,
Whya are you hung up with the mission of Jesus to the Jews
as if that made the gospel of God spoken to them different?Hi CO,
Rom15
8Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:9And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.
10And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people.
11And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people.
12And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.
13Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
Indeed Christ Jesus confirmed the promises to the Jewish people by fulfilling them
and opened the door unto the gentiles, to also fulfil scripture.Hi CO
Rom15
16That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.17I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.
18For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,
Christ Jesus continued his work of reconciliation of men to God through Paul, and Paul's preaching of the one gospel to the Gentiles as well as the Jews.
Hi CO,
Jesus is Lord of all.[Acts17]
Bending the knee to him is a requirement but that is not any indication of salvation.Hi CO,
1Cor.15:22 …22 For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.
Some say, this is not true, only “some” shall be vivified.Yes
But all are not in Christ.
You must be born again to be joined with him.Hi CO,
You say
“2Cor.5:18-19 …Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
Some say, this is not true, we MUST REPENT!”Christ in Paul taught at Athens and Christ in Peter taught at Pentecost that men must repent.
This is the work of God not men.ALL in context, and the US, in context, includes only the saved to whom it was written.
It does not include all men who have ever lived. CONTEXTHi CO,
“1Tim.2:4 …Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth.
Some say, God can't possibly do this.”Would a God of love not wish all to be saved?
But connecting the dots to say it must therefore happen cuts individual choice from man.God demands a response of faith.
Hi CO,
2Tim.2:10 …Therefore I am enduring all because of those who are chosen, that they also may be happening upon the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with glory eonian.
Some say, not so, we have to do something. God cannot just choose us!Paul endures all for the sake of the children God has called and chosen.
Hi CO,
Eph.1:11 …in Him in Whom our lot was cast also, being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,
Some say, NO, we have a choice, it's OUR will that counts!We who are given this message are among those who were chosen in the free Will of God.
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