THE GOSPEL THAT SAVES

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  • #135815
    NickHassan
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    Hi CO,
    His words were faithfully recorded for all men.
    Have you not yet heard the gospel?
    The seed is ready to be planted

    The words of Jesus are spirit and life.

    #135817
    chosenone
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    NH.
    So you don't believe scripture?

    #135818
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    What can you offer that is better than what we have?
    Universalism is a pointless heresy.

    #135819
    chosenone
    Participant

    NH.
    So you now call scripture heresy?

    1Tim.4:9-11 …Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
    10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
    11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching

    Notice ” These things be charging and teaching”.

    Nick, “Believe scripture” not yourself!!!

    #136543
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (chosenone @ July 03 2009,17:27)
    NH.
      So you now call scripture heresy?

    1Tim.4:9-11   …Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
    10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
    11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching

    Notice ” These things be charging and teaching”.  

    Nick, “Believe scripture” not yourself!!!


    Nick?

    #136637
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 04 2009,06:26)
    1Co 15:1  Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand,
    1Co 15:2  and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you–unless you believed in vain.

    Was the Gospel Paul spoke of for a limited group only?  Was it for Jews and converts to Judiasm only?  Is there a Gospel that saves you and me today? How do you understand it?  What kind of Gospel do you share with your friends?

    Missionaries go to foreign lands,  people have street ministries,
    churches claim to preach the Gospel.  What do you believe?


    I know only that the Jesus taught the Jews and Samaritans only at first but after his death the his teachings were spread to the Gentiles as well.

    I believe that Jesus taught only one teaching and that teaching did not change after his death though his death allowed it to be completely adhered to.

    #136649
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Yes some try to avoid entering the gate as if climbing in some other way was useful.
    Jesus is the door to the kingdom and entry enables vision.
    Then his words become food.

    #136751
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……….Right, except the words he spoke were not (his) words. They were the Fathers words, (true) believers know this, and give the Glory to the Father as Jesus did. Preaching Jesus is good , but preaching Jesus as Obedient to the Father is better. IMO

    peace and love………………………..gene

    #136783
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    You struggle with the Lordship of Jesus.
    Is that why you are brave enough to offer your own intellectual speculations over his?

    #136844
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……..Your insinuations about my struggle with Jesus is False , i have no struggle with Him , it with People like you who try to present Jesus as a GOD instead of a follower of GOD. Intellectual speculations have nothing to do with it. You say He is not a GOD on the one hand then say He is who we need listen to. but the question is are you truly listening to Jesus, if you were then you would know who to follow and give credit to for saving everyone. You seem to be between a straight not knowing who is really the (TRUE) HOLY ONE. Or the ONE and (ONLY) true GOD. If you were truly following Jesus you would understand this and what i said. Here is something that might help you out of Jesus' own mouth, “WHY CALLEST (ME) GOOD THERE IS (ONLY ONE) WHO IS GOOD AND THAT IS GOD”. Think about this it might clear some of the cob webs out of you thinking. Jesus Christ TO THE GLORY OF GOD, Lest not forget that. IMO

    peace and love……………………..gene

    #136850
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    Should we listen to the prophets if they are not God too?

    You claim the lordship of Jesus but then you offer your teachings as superior to to his denying his teachings about Satan and offering new ideas that Spirit is intellect.

    Whom do you serve?

    #136862
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…….If you don't believe Spirit is Intellect, then please explain to us what a (WORD IS), and if you say it is an expression of one intellect then you have your answer and if not that then what is it?. I am only believing what Jesus said SPIRIT WAS. Try to do the same and you will grow in understanding NICK. YOU say you believe Jesus then believe what He said. IMO

    peace and love………………gene

    #136864
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    We do not add to scripture to extract understanding from it.

    #136917
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2009,10:30)
    G,
    We do not add to scripture to extract understanding from it.


    NH.
    When you stated “the one eternal gospel for all”, was that not adding to scripture?

    #136923
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    When was that ?

    The gospel can only save when men can respond to it.
    But of course the seed cannot sprout on poor soil overgrown with weeds

    #136940
    chosenone
    Participant

    NH.
    The date was Posted: July 14 2008,08:46

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    Hi,
    There is only one eternal gospel-of Jesus Christ.
    Even if an angel brought another men should not listen[Gal1]

    Are you now denying you posted this “unbiblical” teaching? It was in the “correctly cutting the word of truth” thread.

    Blessings.

    #136943
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Where did I say that ?
    Do you mean the eternal gospel of Revelation 14.6?
    There is no other.

    #136985
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2009,10:30)
    G,
    We do not add to scripture to extract understanding from it.


    NH………who's adding anything , Just understanding what is written is the problem here, not adding anything. Some have the spirit (intellect) to understand the deep things , while others just swarm around on the surface , ever learning but not understanding. Unless GOD gives them eyes to see and ears to hear, they only grope at the wall.

    Your gospel is about Jesus , but not about Jesus Crucified as Paul preached, Jesus' message was about the FATHER and the WORK of the FATHER, but Trinitarians and Preexistences , make it a work of Jesus himself and their so-called free will Choices, not even realizing Jesus did not even Choose himself, he was predestened by GOD to Glorify the FATHER, Something you need to concider in order to be more like Christ. IMO

    peace and love………………….gene

    #137039
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    You boast of great intellect?
    Is that wise?

    You should honour the Lord Jesus just as all the other servants of God deserve Honour

    #137097
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NH………..I boast of nothing thats just your mouth trying to make it appear that way as you do with others. Show me one word of Boasting in what i stated. You can't answer a question so you start you personal attacks, which is definitely a sign of you lack of both logic and understanding. IMO

    peace and love…………….gene

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