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- March 7, 2020 at 11:12 pm#850464Ed JParticipant
Follow the example of Yeshua.
Hi Miia,
Jesus was eating with the people he redeemed. If a muslim were
to repent of islam – I too would surely eat with them if invited.But to eat the ramadan meal, which celebrates Muhammad
receiving the quran, is blasphemy against what the bible teaches.I wish you had eyes to this grievous error on your part
March 7, 2020 at 11:19 pm#850465MiiaParticipantHi Ed I don’t think it’s a big deal. Anyway I don’t eat with anyone except family. We are not to judge what people believe, full stop.
March 7, 2020 at 11:22 pm#850466Ed JParticipantislam is the evil the bible speaks of,
when you you have eyes to see?March 7, 2020 at 11:23 pm#850467MiiaParticipantA Christian’s job is to love people. Sometimes that’s hard. For example I am upset by cruelty to animals. But judgment is up to God.
March 7, 2020 at 11:26 pm#850468MiiaParticipantEd, you say
islam is the evil the bible speaks of,
when you you have eyes to see?I disagree. It is just a religion to me, no different than Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc.
Each person stands alone at judgment and answers to God alone.
March 7, 2020 at 11:35 pm#850469Ed JParticipantislam is the evil the bible speaks of,
when you you have eyes to see?I disagree. It is just a religion to me, no different than Judaism or Hinduism etc.
Hi Miia,
Well, that’s where you are wrong
March 7, 2020 at 11:40 pm#850470MiiaParticipantEd J,
Muhummad did not allow images in worship. Eliminates him immediately.
March 7, 2020 at 11:42 pm#850471MiiaParticipantWhat is worship and could we be worshiping technology without realizing?
Is ‘worship’ of the image of the beast in Revelation symbolic?
March 7, 2020 at 11:52 pm#850472Ed JParticipantEd J,
Muhummad did not allow images in worship. Eliminates him immediately.
Really?
Why do Muslims have to bow down to the kaaba 5 times a day then?
March 7, 2020 at 11:53 pm#850473Ed JParticipantIs ‘worship’ of the image of the beast in Revelation symbolic?
No
the beast is islam, nothing symbolic about islam
March 8, 2020 at 12:02 am#850474MiiaParticipantEd they don’t bow down to the ‘kabba’. That’s only some of them much like SOME Catholics bow down to statues.
Almost the whole world BOWS DOWN TO THE INTERNET!
Out of everyone I know, I only know a few people who DO NOT have the internet /www or TV.
I have it on my conscience that these few people I know might be (some of) the only ones left who have not (or no longer) bowed down to the beast!
March 8, 2020 at 1:53 am#850475BereanParticipant2a) How Muhammad got his start – (2b) the fallen angel Lucifer delivering the quran
to Muhammad OPENING POST (Rev 13:13) and – (2c) Muhammad’s end (how Muhammad died).Edj
Muhammad has nothing to do with Revelation 13:13
The false prophet of Revelation 13 is a false prophet that SPEAK FOR THE FIRST BEAST (FALSE PAPAL RELIGION)
ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY.
Read well
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,The work of the false prophet>>>
>>…..and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast,…..<<<
THE FALSE PROPHET SPEAK
FOR THE FIRST BEAST…
DO MUHAMMAD SPEAK FOR THE THE BEAST ???
CAN MUHAMMAD (ISLAMIC’S NATIONS) APPLY THE PROGRAM TO THE WHOLE WORLD THAT IS DESCRIBED IN REVELATION 13:11-18)???? 😟
March 8, 2020 at 6:05 am#850478BereanParticipantIslamists worship a false God, a God who doesn’t need a mediator.
Jesus said that no one can go to the Father except through him.
One cannot go to God without going through the merits of Christ’s righteousness.Colossians 2
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
[9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.Christ is a savior/Lord divino/Human
March 8, 2020 at 6:17 am#850479Ed JParticipantAlmost the whole world BOWS DOWN TO THE INTERNET!
Hi Miia,
Are you bowing down to the telephone too when you make a call?
March 8, 2020 at 6:42 am#850480BereanParticipantThe Internet is an instrument, a prodigious “crutch” that God has allowed to spread His Eternal Gospel. …But it is a double-edged sword. …which can become an “idol” when it is not used for the glory of God.
The beast is a kingdom with a king,
the false prophet of Revelation 13 WILL SPEAK LIKE A DRAGON For the whole world to worship the beast(1nd)March 8, 2020 at 1:40 pm#850483Ed JParticipantthe false prophet of Revelation 13 WILL SPEAK LIKE A DRAGON For the whole world to worship the beast(1nd)
Hi Berean,
Yes the two horns are ‘sunni and shiite’ – he claims to speak for God, but want’s
to slay Christians and Jews. And worshiping the first beast is ‘World Conquest’.pretty simple in retrospect.
Nobody seen it coming but God
All the pieces fit together completelyMarch 8, 2020 at 9:29 pm#850484BereanParticipantYes, the two horns are “Sunni and Shiite” – he claims to speak in the name of God, but he wants to
to kill Christians and Jews. And the cult of the first beast is the “Conquest of the World”.Quite simple in retrospect.
No one saw it coming except God
All parts fit together completely.Edj
That’s your interpretation ….
Read the text:
Revelation 13…
I saw another beast rise up out of the earth, having two horns like a lamb, and speaking like a dragon. (Second Bible)And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. (KJBible)
THIS BEAST COMES AFTER THE FIRST BEAST CHRONOLOGICALLY.
The first beast was wounded in 1798 by Napoleon. It lasted 42 prophetic months or 1260 years. (538-1798)
“And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; AND POWER WAS GIVEN TO HIM TO CONTUNUE FORTY AND TWO MONTHS.”EDJ
ISLAM as an Ottoman Empire was not formed towards the end of the 18th century. Rather, the United States of America was formed around that time (1776).Horns like those of a lamb
at the base symbolizes the fact that we are dealing with Christian states (republican and protestant) with the separation of powers, the religious not dominating civil and political power.
But when the US comes to
talk like a dragon, that
will mean that the religious (apostate protestantism ) will dominate the political power as in Europe at the time of the papal supremacy. ( first beast)
Religious freedom will be undermined by intolerant and injust laws.Yes, the two horns are “Sunni and Shiite” – he claims to speak in the name of God, but he wants to
to kill Christians and Jews. And the cult of the first beast is the “Conquest of the World”.Quite simple in retrospect.
No one saw it coming except God
All parts fit together completely.Edj
That’s your interpretation ….
Read the text:
Revelation 13…
I saw another beast rise up out of the earth, having two horns like a lamb, and speaking like a dragon. (Second Bible)And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. (KJBible)
THIS BEAST COMES AFTER THE FIRST BEAST CHRONOLOGICALLY.
The first beast was wounded in 1798 by Napoleon. It lasted 42 prophetic months or 1260 years. (538-1798)
“And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; AND POWER WAS GIVEN TO HIM TO CONTUNUE FORTY AND TWO MONTHS.”EDJ
ISLAM as an Ottoman Empire was not formed towards the end of the 18th century. Rather, the United States of America was formed around that time (1776).Horns like those of a lamb
at the base symbolizes the fact that we are dealing with Christian states (republican and protestant) with the separation of powers, the religious not dominating civil and political power.
But when the US comes to
talk like a dragon, that
will mean that the religious (apostate protestantism ) will dominate the political power as in Europe at the time of the papal supremacy. ( first beast)
Religious freedom will be undermined by intolerant and unjust laws. And this will be extended to the whole world, as it is written in the rest of chapter 13.March 9, 2020 at 3:47 am#850505GeneBalthropParticipantBerean and Edj…….Nothing in Revelations has to do with any “religious” powers, it is speaking of , world ruling milatary and economic powers. Different religions are in all the those kingdoms, and always has been. Islam rather Sunnie or Shiite, can’t even rule themselves much less the whole world. Both your problems are, you both have your minds in religions and not on true world rulling milatary and economic powers.
The kingdom of God is not about religions issues, it about true world rulling powers, when Jesus returns it will not be because of religions, it will be about world rulling power, both milatary and economic powers, No religion has ever ruled the whole world, then or now.
Peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
March 9, 2020 at 5:43 am#850506BereanParticipantThe Apostasy of the Christian church
The apostle Paul, in his second letter to the Thessalonians, foretold the great
apostasy which would result in the establishment of the papal power. He declared
that the day of Christ should not come, “except there come a falling away first, and that
man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above
all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of
God, showing himself that he is God.” [2 Thessalonians 2:3, 4, 7.] And furthermore,
the apostle warns his brethren that “the mystery of iniquity doth already work.” [2
Thessalonians 2:3, 4, 7.] Even at that early date he saw, creeping into the church,
errors that would prepare the way for the development of the papacy.
Little by little, at first in stealth and silence, and then more openly as it increased
in strength and gained control of the minds of men, the mystery of iniquity carried
forward its deceptive and blasphemous work. Almost imperceptibly the customs of
heathenism found their way into the Christian church. The spirit of compromise
and conformity was restrained for a time by the fierce persecutions which the church
endured under paganism. But as persecution ceased, and Christianity entered the courts
and palaces of kings, she laid aside the humble simplicity of Christ and his apostles
for the pomp and pride of pagan priests and rulers; and in place of the requirements of
God, she substituted human theories and traditions. The nominal conversion of Constantine, in the early part of the fourth century, caused great
rejoicing; and the world, cloaked with a form of righteousness, walked into the church.
Now the work of corruption rapidly progressed. Paganism, while appearing to be
vanquished, became the conqueror. Her spirit controlled the church. Her doctrines,
ceremonies, and superstitions were incorporated into the faith and worship of the
professed followers of Christ.
This compromise between paganism and Christianity resulted in the development
of the “man of sin” foretold in prophecy as opposing and exalting himself above God.
That gigantic system of false religion is a masterpiece of Satan’s power,—a monument
of his efforts to seat himself upon the throne to rule the earth according to his will.
Satan once endeavored to form a compromise with Christ. He came to the Son of
God in the wilderness of temptation, and, showing him all the kingdoms of the world
and the glory of them, offered to give all into his hands if he would but acknowledge
the supremacy of the prince of darkness. Christ rebuked the presumptuous tempter,
and forced him to depart. But Satan meets with greater success in presenting the same
temptations to man. To secure worldly gains and honors, the church was led to seek
the favor and support of the great men of earth, and having thus rejected Christ, she
was induced to yield allegiance to the representative of Satan,—the bishop of Rome.
It is one of the leading doctrines of Romanism that the pope is the visible head
of the universal church of Christ, invested with supreme authority over bishops and
pastors in all parts of the world. More than this, the pope has arrogated the very titles
of Deity. He styles himself “Lord God the Pope,” assumes infallibility, and demands
that all men pay him homage. Thus the same claim urged by Satan in the wilderness
of temptation is still urged by him through the Church of Rome, and vast numbers are
ready to yield him homage.
But those who fear and reverence God meet this Heaven-daring assumption as
Christ met the solicitations of the wily foe: “Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and
him only shalt thou serve.” [Luke 4:8.] God has never given a hint in his Word that he
has appointed any man to be the head of the church. The doctrine of papal supremacy
is directly opposed to the teachings of the Scriptures. The pope can have no power
over Christ’s church except by usurpation.
Romanists have persisted in bringing against Protestants the charge of heresy,
and willful separation from the true church. But these accusations apply rather to
themselves. They are the ones who laid down the banner of Christ, and departed from
“the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” [Jude 3.]
Satan well knew that the Holy Scriptures would enable men to discern his
deceptions and withstand his power. It was by the Word that even the Saviour of the
world had resisted his attacks. At every assault, Christ presented the shield of eternal
truth, saying, “It is written.” To every suggestion of the adversary, he opposed the
wisdom and power of the Word. In order for Satan to maintain his sway over men,
and establish the authority of the papal usurper, he must keep them in ignorance of
the Scriptures. The Bible would exalt God, and place finite men in their true position;
therefore its sacred truths must be concealed and suppressed. This logic was adopted by
the Roman Church. For hundreds of years the circulation of the Bible was prohibited.
The people were forbidden to read it or to have it in their houses, and unprincipled
priests and prelates interpreted its teachings to sustain their pretensions. Thus the
pope came to be almost universally acknowledged as the vicegerent of God on earth,
endowed with authority over Church and State.
The detector of error having been removed, Satan worked according to his will.
Prophecy had declared that the
papacy was to “think to change times and laws.” [Daniel 7:25.] This work it was not
slow to attempt. To afford converts from heathenism a substitute for the worship of
idols, and thus to promote their nominal acceptance of Christianity, the adoration of
images and relics was gradually introduced into the Christian worship. The decree of a
general council [Second Council of Nice, A.D. 787.] finally established this system of
idolatry. To complete the sacrilegious work, Rome presumed to expunge from the law
of God the second commandment, forbidding image worship, and to divide the tenth
commandment, in order to preserve the number.
The spirit of concession to paganism opened the way for a still further disregard of
Heaven’s authority. Satan tampered with the fourth commandment also, and essayed to
set aside the ancient Sabbath, the day which God had blessed and sanctified, [Genesis
2:2, 3.] and in its stead to exalt the festival observed by the heathen as “the venerable
day of the sun.” This change was not at first attempted openly. In the first centuries the
true Sabbath had been kept by all Christians. They were jealous for the honor of God,
and, believing that his law is immutable, they zealously guarded the sacredness of its
precepts. But with great subtlety, Satan worked through his agents to bring about his
object. That the attention of the people might be called to the Sunday, it was made a
festival in honor of the resurrection of Christ. Religious services were held upon it; yet
it was regarded as a day of recreation, the Sabbath being still sacredly observed.
To prepare the way for the work which he designed to accomplish, Satan had led
the Jews, before the advent of Christ, to load down the Sabbath with the most rigorous
exactions, making its observance a burden. Now, taking advantage of the false light
in which he had thus caused it to be regarded, he cast contempt upon it as a Jewish
institution. While Christians continued to observe the Sunday
as a joyous festival, he led them, in order to show their hatred of Judaism, to make the
Sabbath a fast, a day of sadness and gloom.
In the early part of the fourth century, the emperor Constantine issued a decree
making Sunday a public festival throughout the Roman Empire.
1.] The day of the sun was reverenced by his pagan subjects, and was honored by
Christians; it was the emperor’s policy to unite the conflicting interests of heathenism
and Christianity. He was urged to do this by the bishops of the church, who, inspired
by ambition, and thirst for power, perceived that if the same day was observed by both
Christians and the heathen, it would promote the nominal acceptance of Christianity
by pagans, and thus advance the power and glory of the church. But while Christians
were gradually led to regard Sunday as possessing a degree of sacredness, they still
held the true Sabbath as the holy of the Lord, and observed it in obedience to the fourth
commandment.
The arch-deceiver had not completed his work. He was resolved to gather the
Christian world under his banner, and to exercise his power through his vicegerent, the
proud pontiff who claimed to be the representative of Christ. Through half-converted
pagans, ambitious prelates, and world-loving churchmen, he accomplished his
purpose. Vast councils were held, from time to time, in which the dignitaries of
the church were convened from all the world. In nearly every council the Sabbath
which God had instituted was pressed down a little lower, while the Sunday was
correspondingly exalted. Thus the pagan festival came finally to be honored as a
divine institution, while the Bible Sabbath was pronounced a relic of Judaism, and
its observers were declared to be accursed.
The great apostate had succeeded in exalting himself “above all that is called God,
or that is worshiped.” [2 Thessalonians 2:4.] He had dared to change the only precept
of the divine law that unmistakably points all mankind to the true and living
God. In the fourth commandment, God is revealed as the Creator of the heavens and the
earth, and is thereby distinguished from all false gods. It was as a memorial of the work
of creation that the seventh day was sanctified as a rest-day for man. It was designed to
keep the living God ever before the minds of men as the source of being and the object
of reverence and worship. Satan strives to turn men from their allegiance to God, and
from rendering obedience to his law; therefore he directs his efforts especially against
that commandment which points to God as the Creator.
Protestants now urge that the resurrection of Christ on Sunday made it the Christian
Sabbath. But Scripture evidence is lacking. No such honor was given to the day by
Christ or his apostles. The observance of Sunday as a Christian institution had its origin
in that “mystery of lawlessness” [2 Thessalonians 2:7, Revised Version.] which, even
in Paul’s day, had begun its work. Where and when did the Lord adopt this child of
the papacy? What valid reason can be given for a change which the Scriptures do not
sanction?
In the sixth century the papacy had become firmly established. Its seat of power
was fixed in the imperial city, and the bishop of Rome was declared to be the head over
the entire church. Paganism had given place to the papacy. The dragon had given to the
beast “his power, and his seat, and great authority.” [Revelation 13:2; See appendix,
note 2.] And now began the 1260 years of papal oppression foretold in the prophecies
of Daniel and the Revelation. [Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13:5-7.] Christians were forced
to choose, either to yield their integrity and accept the papal ceremonies and worship,
or to wear away their lives in dungeons or suffer death by the rack, the fagot, or the
headsman’s ax. Now were fulfilled the words of Jesus, “Ye shall be betrayed both by
parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to
be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake.” [Luke 21:16,17.]Persecution opened upon the faithful with greater fury than ever before, and the world
became a vast battle-field. For hundreds of years the church of Christ found refuge in
seclusion and obscurity. Thus says the prophet: “The woman fled into the wilderness,
where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two
hundred and threescore days.” [Revelation 12:6.]
The accession of the Roman Church to power marked the beginning of the Dark
Ages. As her power increased, the darkness deepened. Faith was transferred from
Christ, the true foundation, to the pope of Rome. Instead of trusting in the Son of
God for forgiveness of sins and for eternal salvation, the people looked to the pope,
and to the priests and prelates to whom he delegated authority. They were taught that
the pope was their earthly mediator, and that none could approach God except through
him, and, further, that he stood in the place of God to them, and was therefore to
be implicitly obeyed. A deviation from his requirements was sufficient cause for the
severest punishment to be visited upon the bodies and souls of the offenders. Thus
the minds of the people were turned away from God to fallible, erring, and cruel
men, nay more, to the prince of darkness himself, who exercised his power through
them. Sin was disguised in a garb of sanctity. When the Scriptures are suppressed, and
man comes to regard himself as supreme, we need look only for fraud, deception, and
debasing iniquity. With the elevation of human laws and traditions, was manifest the
corruption that ever results from setting aside the law of God.
Those were days of peril for the church of Christ. The faithful standard-bearers
were few indeed. Though the truth was not left without witnesses, yet at times it
seemed that error and superstition would wholly prevail, and true religion would be
banished from the earth. The gospel was lost sight of, but the forms of religion were
multiplied, and the people were burdened with rigorous exactions.
They were taught not only to look to the pope as their mediator, but to trust to
works of their own to atone for sin. Long pilgrimages, acts of penance, the worship of
relics, the erection of churches, shrines, and altars, the payment of large sums to the
church,—these and many similar acts were enjoined to appease the wrath of God or to
secure his favor; as if God were like men, to be angered at trifles, or pacified by gifts
or acts of penance!
Notwithstanding that vice prevailed, even among the leaders of the Romish Church,
her influence seemed steadily to increase. About the close of the eighth century, papists
put forth the claim that in the first ages of the church the bishops of Rome had possessed
the same spiritual power which they now assumed. To establish this claim, some means
must be employed to give it a show of authority; and this was readily suggested by the
father of lies. Ancient writings were forged by monks. Decrees of councils before
unheard of were discovered, establishing the universal supremacy of the pope from
the earliest times. And a church that had rejected the truth, greedily accepted these
deceptions.
The few faithful builders upon the true foundation [1 Corinthians 3:10, 11.] were
perplexed and hindered, as the rubbish of false doctrine obstructed the work. Like the
builders upon the wall of Jerusalem in Nehemiah’s day, some were ready to say, “The
strength of the bearers of burdens is decayed, and there is much rubbish, so that we
are not able to build.” [Nehemiah 4:10.] Wearied with the constant struggle against
persecution, fraud, iniquity, and every other obstacle that Satan could devise to hinder
their progress, some who had been faithful builders became disheartened; and for the
sake of peace and security for their property and their lives they turned away from
the true foundation. Others, undaunted by the opposition of their enemies, fearlessly
declared, “Be not ye afraid of them; remember the Lord, which is great and terrible;
[Nehemiah 4:14.] and they
proceeded with the work, every one with his sword girded by his side. [Ephesians
6:17.]
The same spirit of hatred and opposition to the truth has inspired the enemies of
God in every age, and the same vigilance and fidelity have been required in his servants.
The words of Christ to the first disciples are applicable to his followers to the close of
time: “What I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.” [Mark 13:37.]
The darkness seemed to grow more dense. Image worship became more general.
Candles were burned before images, and prayers were offered to them. The most
absurd and superstitious customs prevailed. The minds of men were so completely
controlled by superstition that reason itself seemed to have lost her sway. While
priests and bishops were themselves pleasure-loving, sensual, and corrupt, it could
only be expected that the people who looked to them for guidance would be sunken in
ignorance and vice.
Another step in papal assumption was taken, when, in the eleventh century,
Pope Gregory VII. proclaimed the perfection of the Romish Church. Among the
propositions which he put forth, was one declaring that the church had never erred,
nor would it ever err, according to the Scriptures. But the Scripture proofs did
not accompany the assertion. The proud pontiff next claimed the power to depose
emperors, and declared that no sentence which he pronounced could be reversed by
any one, but that it was his prerogative to reverse the decisions of all others.
A striking illustration of the tyrannical character of this advocate of infallibility was
given in his treatment of the German emperor, Henry IV. For presuming to disregard
the pope’s authority, this monarch was declared to be excommunicated and dethroned.
Terrified by the desertion and threats of his own princes, who were encouraged in
rebellion against him by the papal mandate, Henry felt the necessity of making his
peace with Rome. In company
with his wife and a faithful servant, he crossed the Alps in midwinter, that he might
humble himself before the pope. Upon reaching the castle whither Gregory had
withdrawn, he was conducted, without his guards, into an outer court, and there, in
the severe cold of winter, with uncovered head and naked feet, and in a miserable
dress, he awaited the pope’s permission to come into his presence. Not until he had
continued three days fasting and making confession, did the pontiff condescend to
grant him pardon. Even then it was only upon condition that the emperor should await
the sanction of the pope before resuming the insignia or exercising the power of royalty.
And Gregory, elated with his triumph, boasted that it was his duty “to pull down the
pride of kings.”
How striking the contrast between the overbearing pride of this haughty pontiff and
the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who represents himself as pleading at the door
of the heart for admittance, that he may come in to bring pardon and peace, and who
taught his disciples, “Whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant.”
The advancing centuries witnessed a constant increase of error in the doctrines
put forth from Rome. Even before the establishment of the papacy, the teachings of
heathen philosophers had received attention and exerted an influence in the church.
Many who professed conversion still clung to the tenets of their pagan philosophy,
and not only continued its study themselves, but urged it upon others as a means of
extending their influence among the heathen. Serious errors were thus introduced into
the Christian faith. Prominent among these was the belief in man’s natural immortality
and his consciousness in death. This doctrine laid the foundation upon which Rome
established the invocation of saints and the adoration of the virgin Mary. From this
sprung also the heresy of eternal torment for the finally impenitent, which was early
incorporated into the papal faith.
Then the way was prepared for the introduction of still
another invention of paganism, which Rome named purgatory, and employed to terrify
the credulous and superstitious multitudes. By this heresy is affirmed the existence of
a place of torment, in which the souls of such as have not merited eternal damnation
are to suffer punishment for their sins, and from which, when freed from impurity, they
are admitted to Heaven.
Still another fabrication was needed to enable Rome to profit by the fears and
the vices of her adherents. This was supplied by the doctrine of indulgences. Full
remission of sins, past, present, and future, and release from all the pains and penalties
incurred, were promised to all who would enlist in the pontiff’s wars to extend his
temporal dominion, to punish his enemies, or to exterminate those who dared deny his
spiritual supremacy. The people were also taught that by the payment of money to the
church they might free themselves from sin, and also release the souls of their deceased
friends who were confined in the tormenting flames. By such means did Rome fill her
coffers, and sustain the magnificence, luxury, and vice of the pretended representatives
of Him who had not where to lay his head.
The scriptural ordinance of the Lord’s supper had been supplanted by the idolatrous
sacrifice of the mass. Papist priests pretended, by their senseless mummery, to convert
the simple bread and wine into the actual body and blood of Christ. With blasphemous
presumption, they openly claimed the power of “creating God, the Creator of all
things.” All Christians were required, on pain of death, to avow their faith in this
horrible, Heaven-insulting heresy. Multitudes who refused were given to the flames.
In the thirteenth century was established that most terrible of all the engines of the
papacy,—the Inquisition. The prince of darkness wrought with the leaders of the papal
hierarchy. In their secret councils, Satan and his angels controlled the minds of evil
men, while unseen in the midst stood an angel of God, taking the fearful record of their
iniquitous decrees, and writing the history of deeds too
horrible to appear to human eyes. “Babylon the great” was “drunken with the blood
of the saints.” The mangled forms of millions of martyrs cried to God for vengeance
upon that apostate power.
Popery had become the world’s despot. Kings and emperors bowed to the decrees
of the Roman pontiff. The destinies of men, both for time and for eternity, seemed
under his control. For hundreds of years the doctrines of Rome had been extensively
and implicitly received, its rites reverently performed, its festivals generally observed.
Its clergy were honored and liberally sustained. Never since has the Roman Church
attained to greater dignity, magnificence, or power.
The noontide of the papacy was the world’s moral midnight. The Holy Scriptures
were almost unknown, not only to the people, but to the priests. Like the Pharisees
of old, the papist leaders hated the light which would reveal their sins. God’s law,
the standard of righteousness, having been removed, they exercised power without
limit, and practiced vice without restraint. Fraud, avarice, and profligacy prevailed.
Men shrank from no crime by which they could gain wealth or position. The palaces
of popes and prelates were scenes of the vilest debauchery. Some of the reigning
pontiffs were guilty of crimes so revolting that secular rulers endeavored to depose
these dignitaries of the church as monsters too vile to be tolerated. For centuries
Europe had made no progress in learning, arts, or civilization. A moral and intellectual
paralysis had fallen upon Christendom.
The condition of the world under the Romish power presented a fearful and striking
fulfillment of the words of the prophet Hosea: “My people are destroyed for lack of
knowledge; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee; … seeing thou
hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” “There is no truth,
nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. By swearing, and lying, and killing, and
stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.” [Hosea
4:6, 1, 2.] Such were the results of banishing the Word of God.March 9, 2020 at 10:04 am#850508GeneBalthropParticipantBerean….Thanks for the history lesson, but understand this, .There is (NO) real, “man of sin”, there “is” (ONLY) a false image created by the fallen church (christanity) , of Jesus being a God, is Jesus NOT, the “Only” human who has ever entered the “temple of God” and has taken his seat in it, and is Not being worshiped as God by nearly all Christanity.
This “Lie” About Jesus being a God , is what created the “image” of the “man of sin”, and When Jesus returns, he himself will destroy that “false” teaching, or “Lie’, about him. That simple.
You people are all going to be caught by suprise, why?, because you are believing in “LIES”, you or others are creating. Jesus was apsolute right when he said his comming would catch the world by suprise. What are you going to do when suddenly Jesus returns and non of those things are happening , you will be then branded as just another false prophet among thousands who Satan is using to decieve people.
What I have told you about Rev 17 and Dan 2 :26 is correct, if what you or Edj is saying does not aline with that, they you simply are a false prophet,
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
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