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Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 21 2012,00:14) Mike, Each time you see the word “God” in John 5:18 there is a definite article with it in the Greek.
John 5:18
For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
The Jews knew that the Son of God would be equal to the God, not a god.
But we weren't talking about John 5:18, were we? We were talking about John 10:32, right?In that verse, the Jews accused Jesus of making himself out to be A god.
In 5:18, they weren't saying Jesus was making himself out to BE God, but “equal to” Him.
In the eyes of the Jews, the son of Solomon was “equal to” Solomon, being entitled to all that Solomon had. But being “equal TO” another, in and of itself, proves you are NOT that other.
So Jesus being “equal TO” THE God would still mean Jesus was “A god”, who was not “THE God” he was “equal TO”.
Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 21 2012,00:21) Their use of one 'being' is to be understood of in the corporate sense, Mike.
Like I just said before, the saints are never said to be “one BEING” – so your comparison is lacking.And, are you seriously claiming that the Trinitarians believe God Almighty is THREE separate BEINGS, who are only one being in the “corporate sense”?
Can you find the words of ANY Trinitarian who EVER says God is made up of more than one BEING like you do?
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 29 2012,05:08) You see LU, there is a difference between identity and nature, and those that do not know the difference propose all kinds of theories like the Trinity or Binity to try to make sense of it all.
And all those who do not understand that Jesus has the same “EXACT” nature of the Father sees Jesus as less in nature than the Father. Therefore their image of the true Jesus is false and they follow and believe in another Jesus!To believe that Jesus nature is less than God is to believe that a human son could be less human than his father. Or a dog could be less dog! Foolishness!
Kathi, you have it right, like begets like, God of God, light of light.
The truth is Adam is also adam!
WJ
Hi WJ,
What about Mary being Jesus' mother,
exactly how does that it into your formula?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,14:57) Hi WJ, What about Mary being Jesus' mother,
exactly how does that it into your formula?God bless
Ed J
EdNo formula! Jesus was both Spirit and flesh!
His flesh nature didn't diminish his divine (Spiritual) nature.
The truth is so simple that the wise stumble over it!
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:06) Ed I have a question for you!
Can anyone but God be everywhere at the same time?
WJ
Hi WJ,I believe Jesus Christ in spirit form can be as well.
“Of righteousness, because I go to my Father,
and ye see me no more (ref. 2Cor,5:16);” (John 16:10)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:06) Ed I have a question for you!
Can anyone but God be everywhere at the same time?
WJ
Hi WJ,I believe Jesus Christ in spirit form can be as well.
So then Jesus would be “equal to the Father” in “Omnipresence'?WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:13) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:06) Ed I have a question for you!
Can anyone but God be everywhere at the same time?
WJ
Hi WJ,I believe Jesus Christ in spirit form can be as well.
So then Jesus would be “equal to the Father” in “Omnipresence'?WJ
Hi WJ,I believe Jesus would be able to localize himself into physicality reality.
Though Jesus considered it not robbery to be equal with GOD,
he also said that his father was greater than he was.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:13) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:10) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:06) Ed I have a question for you!
Can anyone but God be everywhere at the same time?
WJ
Hi WJ,I believe Jesus Christ in spirit form can be as well.
So then Jesus would be “equal to the Father” in “Omnipresence'?WJ
Hi WJ,I believe Jesus would be able to localize himself into physicality reality.
Though Jesus considered it not robbery to be equal with GOD,
he also said that his father was greater than he was.God bless
Ed J
EdOk, but you didn't answer.
Is Jesus Equally Omnipresent like the Father?
WJ
Hi WJ,
I would say since his resurrection, yes.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgThanks!
So if Jesus is “Omnipresent” then that would mean that he is “equal” to the Father in that he would see all things, know all things, and have power over all things. That would mean that he is God like the Father!
WJ
Hi WJ,
No, his father would still be greater.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgwj
Quote And all those who do not understand that Jesus has the same “EXACT” nature of the Father sees Jesus as less in nature than the Father. Therefore their image of the true Jesus is false and they follow and believe in another Jesus! do you have a scripture to this declaration
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2013,15:34) wj Quote And all those who do not understand that Jesus has the same “EXACT” nature of the Father sees Jesus as less in nature than the Father. Therefore their image of the true Jesus is false and they follow and believe in another Jesus! do you have a scripture to this declaration
“And He is the radiance of His glory and the “EXACT REPRESENTATION OF HIS NATURE”, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,Heb 1:3WJ
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:33) Hi WJ, No, his father would still be greater.
God bless
Ed J
So then Jesus is less in nature than the Father?Is that what you think that scripture means?
WJ
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:33) Hi WJ, No, his father would still be greater.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
In what way is the Father Greater?WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:44) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:33) Hi WJ, No, his father would still be greater.
God bless
Ed J
So then Jesus is less in nature than the Father?Is that what you think that scripture means?
WJ
Hi WJ,No, equal in nature, but less in power.
Greater is the one who gives,
than the one who gets.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:48) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:44) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:33) Hi WJ, No, his father would still be greater.
God bless
Ed J
So then Jesus is less in nature than the Father?Is that what you think that scripture means?
WJ
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:48) No, equal in nature, but less in power.
Really!What about these…
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, “All power” is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matt 28:18
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given “all things” into his hand. Jn 3:35
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:56) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:48) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2013,07:44) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:33) Hi WJ, No, his father would still be greater.
God bless
Ed J
So then Jesus is less in nature than the Father?Is that what you think that scripture means?
WJ
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2013,15:48) No, equal in nature, but less in power.
Really!What about these…
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, “All power” is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matt 28:18
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given “all things” into his hand. Jn 3:35
WJ
Greater is the one who gives, than the one who gets.
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