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- July 30, 2015 at 12:43 pm#801483ProclaimerParticipant
their is nothing to watch for it is the readiness of the believers that will be the factor of salvation look at the 10 virgin/look at what Jesus said about Noah and his work, look also what Jesus said “he will come as a thief,” no thief send is business card prior to go steal at a house ,and above all what time do we live in according to Jesus ?
The ironic thing here is you are telling me to look. Jesus said look. And that is what I am saying too.
Further, regarding the return Paul said:
Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober.
Two things:
We will not be in darkness to that day because we of the day not the night. At night it is hard to see. In the day, everything is clear.
Another sign mentioned here is when ‘they cry peace and safety’. The signs are there for us to see if we are children of the day. To the world, Jesus return will be like a thief in the night. Unexpected and by surprise. When you house is burgled at night you do not expect it. No one can say that this day will be like a thief in the night for those that belong to the Lord. Just need to read on from the beginning of the verse to see this is so.
July 30, 2015 at 2:25 pm#801487terrariccaParticipantt8
did Paul said that being in the day light means you know it all ? or does he mean we are ready for any circumstance no matter the time ,so far you are confirming what i have said many times ,no signs readiness by living by the truth every day of your life ,understand 2000 years have past ,no matter our faith will sustain us if you have the truth
August 3, 2015 at 8:48 pm#801596ProclaimerParticipantIn the day, you can see ahead. In the night, you stumble into things because you cannot see even that which is in front of you.
August 4, 2015 at 8:23 am#801632terrariccaParticipantyes but Paul mention that we are not walking in the night he does not mean we do not sleep any more ,but we walk in the knowledge of the truth and so we do not bother with what has to come and when it suppose to come ,look it is now almost 2000 years that this game has been used ,but the true believers do not wait nor look ,for the spirit make them look at their own way ,heart and soul to walk in Christ for those words that Paul said could apply Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Rev 20:15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.but this can not happen before the following event ;Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
then; REV 20:8 and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.
REV 20:9 And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
REV 20:10 And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and everSeptember 28, 2015 at 5:51 pm#803221ProclaimerParticipantFinal blood moon is now and it is a super-moon. Look out for it in the sky tonight.
September 28, 2015 at 7:08 pm#803223Ed JParticipantHi T8,
Tonight was the last of the tetrad of blood moons.
I saw it and it was beautiful. And as we had talked about before,
we should expect an expansion of the Children of Israel within a year from now.Why? That is what’s in common, with the last three preceding triad of blood moons (see chart below)
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God bless
Ed JSeptember 28, 2015 at 9:10 pm#803228MiiaParticipantI never saw the blood moon Ed.
What do you mean by an expansion of the children of Israel?
I supposedly have Jewish ancestry as you know. So does that mean that people like me will end up going to earthly Israel? My heart isn’t in anything earthly, neither was Jesus’. Even Paul said we have come to the HEAVENLY Jerusalem. Just saying. Explain more if you want to.September 28, 2015 at 9:55 pm#803230Ed JParticipantHi Miia,
I see you’re jumping to the wrong conclusion again.
Tetrad means four as in four blood moons
Sun → Earth → moon = blood moon (or eclipse)
and a blood moon is the earth eclipsing the moon.And what I mean is: expansion of land for the Children of Israel to dwell in
That seems to be the meaning of the tetrad of blood moons
“And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;
and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth:
for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming
in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass,
then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.”(Luke 21:25-28)
September 28, 2015 at 10:33 pm#803232MiiaParticipantHi Ed. It seems you missed my point. Four blood moons has nothing to do with Israel the nation “expanding”. Christians should have nothing to do with any assumed favoritism of a nation on earth. Christians have come to the HEAVENLY JERUSALEM, the HEAVENLY MOUNT ZION, (Hebrews 12:22).
As to what the blood red moons mean… you say a blood red moon is the earth eclipsing the moon. If the moon represents the church, then the earth is eclipsing (dimming) the church perhaps.September 29, 2015 at 12:42 am#803240Ed JParticipantFour blood moons has nothing to do with Israel the nation “expanding”
We will see soon enough what God had in mind
September 29, 2015 at 1:19 pm#803249terrariccaParticipantEdj
no the blood moons have nothing to do with God or in regard of Israel Prophecies ;all man made deceit ,
I tell you before hand so you cannot say it was after the facts ,
September 29, 2015 at 8:53 pm#803253Ed JParticipantHi Pierre,
If nothing happens within two years then I will agree with you, OK?
And on a side note: if my understanding of Prophecy is correct
the islamic dome of the rock will be coming down in 2023.
Do you want to know how I came up with this date?_______________
God bless
Ed JSeptember 29, 2015 at 9:44 pm#803254terrariccaParticipanthi Edj
so you need two more years their after ,why is that ?
no I am not interested in 2023 ;but tell me if the dome of the rock comes down what has that to do with anything ? beside politics and religion hatred ,
do you know why the temple and all the related structures were destroyed in 70 ad ?
September 30, 2015 at 12:46 am#803260ProclaimerParticipantRussia, Iran, Iraq, and Syria agree to work together to combat Islamic State.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/iraq-signs-collaboration-deal-with-russia-iran-syria-on-isis-fight-1443369993Could this be the precursor to the Ezekiel war? I haven’t really taken it too seriously those teachers who said that Russia and Iran would invade Israel as Gog and Magog, the land to the north. But they have become the unlikeliest of allies which is weird.
However this plays out, it will likely be big and Israel is centred in that part of the world and hated by everyone.
Since this sign in the heavens appeared, the Islamic Caliphate was declared, Christians have been beheaded and crucified, Europe has been flooded with Muslim refugees. I can’t see this ending well. How will this effect Israel I wonder. The only news coming out of Israel at the moment are the tensions in the Temple Mount.
October 2, 2015 at 11:19 pm#803285MiiaParticipantEd, you said to me and Pierre,
We will see soon enough what God had in mind
If nothing happens within two years then I will agree with you, OK?
Anyone following the news today would KNOW that Israel plans to expand their borders and… other things..
Does that mean that God wants it to happen? NO. Just because something happens does not mean that God wanted it to happen.
“The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.” (Rev 11.18)
Perhaps if you learned from the True Torah Jews you would understand what returning to Israel MEANS.
October 2, 2015 at 11:25 pm#803286MiiaParticipantSince this sign in the heavens appeared, the Islamic Caliphate was declared, Christians have been beheaded and crucified, Europe has been flooded with Muslim refugees. I can’t see this ending well. How will this effect Israel I wonder.
Hi t8. I had a vivid dream once, several years ago. I saw a big old fashioned hard covered book, with a world globe on the front. I opened it up, and it had wax paper. I knew something important was behind the wax paper, and God was showing me something. I opened the wax paper, and was so SHOCKED at whatever I saw, that I fell out of bed (never done that before). I was truly that shocked. It involved something future (to happen) and something to do with the Middle East. I still don’t know what I saw. But it was something. Still remember it clearly, but I knew I was not supposed to remember, strange!
October 3, 2015 at 10:11 am#803292ProclaimerParticipantIt might be dormant in you till the right season. Sometimes God gives us dreams and we have no conscious understanding because it resides in our unconscious mind which can then be triggered later on. But you remember how you felt. It reminds me of my vision of paradise and the River of Life. While I remember that vision and the message God gave me at the end of it, I cannot remember what was communicated to me by others. I just know it was wonderful. Reminds me of this:
2 Corinthians 12:4
was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.October 3, 2015 at 10:21 pm#803306MiiaParticipantt8, yes these things are real. Don’t let anyone tell you different.
“And it shall come to pass afterward,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh;
your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
and your young men shall see visions.
Even on the male and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit.“And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes. And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Joel 2:28-32 and Acts 2:17).
It reminds me of my vision of paradise and the River of Life. While I remember that vision and the message God gave me at the end of it, I cannot remember what was communicated to me by others. I just know it was wonderful. Reminds me of this:
2 Corinthians 12:4
was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.You said you could not remember the words. I had a similar experience and there was no (need of) words. Yes, that verse 🙂
October 3, 2015 at 10:26 pm#803307MiiaParticipantEd, further, the True Torah Jews or Neturei Karta await the messiah (they missed Christ) before returning to Israel. They do not believe in bloodshed and believe in loving their neighbor. Do you support the opposite of what Jesus taught?
October 5, 2015 at 8:33 pm#803352Ed JParticipantHi Miia,
I have no idea what you were talking about before you said this…
“Do you support the opposite of what Jesus taught?” – Miia
But the answer to this question is: of course not.________________
God bless
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