The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church

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  • #784591
    Lightenup
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    @Wakeup

    you said:

    The church is said to be the body of Christ and the head is Christ. Do you agree?
    Is Christ to marry his own body? No.
    You need to discover God’s Woman; and the bride of Christ; Which is the daughter of God’s woman.

    After marriage, the bridegroom and the bride become one flesh, so this fits very well for Christ to be the head of this union of Jesus with his church, His bride. The man is the head of the woman in a marriage.

    Mark 10
    6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    Eph 5
    23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

    I hope that helps!

    #784593
    Wakeup
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    Hi Lightenup.

    Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

    Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

    The lambs wife = a great CITY = Holy Jerusalem.

    wakeup.

    #784615
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin.

    We have not heard of your explanation regarding the bride of Christ.
    Can you give us one?

    wakeup.

    #784633
    Lightenup
    Participant

    @Wakeup
    Hi there,
    The holy city is the church.

    Consider these passages:
    Rev 19
    7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    Isaiah 61
    6But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

    7For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.

    8For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

    9And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.

    10I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.

    #784647
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Lightenup.

    Just try find the City of God Holy Jerusalem, and the city of the world, Babylon the great.

    wakeup

    #784650
    Lightenup
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    @Wakeup

    This is simple.

    Holy Jerusalem=those clothed in the righteousness of Jesus (the church-the bride of Christ)

    Babyon the great=those not clothed in the righteousness of Jesus

    #784682
    Wakeup
    Participant

    LIghtenup.

    You finally got it right.
    It is the clothing, not the person.
    One must not be found naked; without clothing.

    Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

    Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

    Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

    wakeup.

    #784684
    Lightenup
    Participant

    @Wakeup
    The Holy Jerusalem is the church made up of persons who are clothed in the righteousness of Christ. This is what I have been saying all along.

    #784685
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Lightenup.

    1.The people are the invited to the wedding.
    2.The bride is the clothing they have on.

    Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

    Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

    wakeup.

    #784687
    carmel
    Participant

     

    Hi there, The holy city is the church.

    Lightenup, and Wakeup!

    THE HOLY CITY IS THE CHURCH FOR SURE!

    BUT AS IT IS NOW THE CHURCH IS IN THE PROCESS TO UNIFY

    THE SOUL “THE WORD” THE ENTIRE CREATURES AS SOULS

    WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT! THE ENTIRE CREATURES AS SPIRITS

    THAT MEANS THAT GOD WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED, THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT ,TO PUT JESUS’ENEMIES AS JESUS’FOOTSTOOL!

    SINCE BOTH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND SATAN’S SPIRIT ARE STILL BATTLING TO OWN SOULS, WHICH ONLY AS IT SEEMS SATAN IS WINNING,AND THE MAJORITY OF THE SOULS ARE GOING IN HELL!

    SO WHEN THE CHURCH SUCCEEDS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, TO PUT ALL JESUS’ ENEMIES AS HIS FOOTSTOOL, THEREFORE GOD’S ENEMIES ACCEPT THAT JESUS’ IS

    THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!

    THAT WOULD MEAN

    THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE BRIDEGROOM! FROM THE ENTIRE CREATURES’ SIDE!

    THE SOULS UNITED WITH THE SPIRITS! SINCE ALL IS SPIRITUAL AND NOTHING CARNAL! THE BRIDE TO BE!

    SO STILL, THAT WOULD ALSO MEAN THAT IT’S NOT YET THE HOLY CITY

    THE NEW JERUSALEM

    THE NEW PURE WHITE CLOTHING OF FLESH

    BUT ALSO SPIRITUAL!

    THE BRIDE!

    AND THAT COULD ONLY COME THROUGH GOD THE FATHER!

    ACCORDING TO HIS PLEASURE

    FROM OUR SIDE POINT OF VIEW WE COULD ONLY PREPARE AND MAKE OURSELVES READY FOR THE WEDDING, AS GUESTS, WHICH MEANS WHAT I HAVE SAID ABOVE, ACHIEVE

    THE SPIRITUALIZATION OF THE SOUL AND BE ONE WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT!

    ABANDON THIS CORRUPPTED WORLDLY CARNAL SYSTEM TO ACHIEVE THE SPIRITUAL HEAVENLY SYSTEM, WHILE STILL ON EARTH!

    THROUGH JESUS’GOSPEL!

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles

    #784688
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Carmel.

    A church with all naked men and women is not Christs church.
    We must not appear naked before the Lord.
    We must not appear naked on the wedding feast; we will be cast out.
    The bride is the the righteousness we have put on.

    Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

    Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

    With no wedding garment on one will not be accepted on the wedding.
    Put on the white robes so you can come to the wedding feast and be accepted.
    Do not come naked. You will be cast out.

    wakeup.

    #784689
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Carmel;

    Are you a priest or preacher?
    You seem to spin words to please your self and your doctrine.
    The spin stops with the scriptures Carmel.

    wakeup.

    #784714
    Lightenup
    Participant

    @carmel

    you said:

    ABANDON THIS CORRUPPTED WORLDLY CARNAL SYSTEM TO ACHIEVE THE SPIRITUAL HEAVENLY SYSTEM, WHILE STILL ON EARTH!

    Would you please tell me how you think that I am holding on to a corrupted worldly carnal system?

    #784715
    Lightenup
    Participant

    @Wakeup
    you said:

    1.The people are the invited to the wedding.
    2.The bride is the clothing they have on.

    Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

    Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

    Sorry, I disagree. The passages in Matthew are an allegory of the kingdom of heaven and those who have no wedding garment are the theives and robbers, hypocrites, that are trying to get into the kingdom another way besides being clothed in the righteousness of Jesus.

    Please allow these following passages show you that the church here is compared to the ‘wife’, it doesn’t compare the righteousness of Christ to the ‘wife.’

    22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

    25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

    #784723
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Gal 3.27

    “For all of you who were BAPTISED into Christ have CLOTHED YOURSELF with Christ”

     

     

    “the spin stops with the scriptures”

    Stop making it up.

    #784754
    Wakeup
    Participant

    LIghtenup.

    You can disagree, but need to discern the scriptures.
    God’s doctrine is His wife. His doctrine can never be above God.
    Just as His Word can never Be above God.

    We need to present ourselves perfect without spot nor wrinkle.
    God is Holy And We should be Holy; meaning clean and perfect.
    His doctrine = HiS Word. His flesh we need to eat, and His blood we need to drink.

    We are members of his BODY, His flesh and his bones.
    We are members of the true church of God. Jesus is not going to marry his own body.
    But His doctrine that has come to perfection in his church.
    His body is in corruption state today, which are the churches; They can not be accepted as guests on His wedding.

    When the teachings has reached perfection during the 1000yr teachings; then the bride is ready.
    All members have reached perfection, and will be invited to the wedding.
    All will have their wedding garments on. None will be cast out.

    Then only, knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.

    We need to be clothed, not walking naked. Adam and His wife were naked, and were ashamed and hiding;
    because they have not kept the commandment of God.

    ( A husband and wife is as one flesh; Just as God and His Wife is one spirit).

    Shalom
    wakeup.

    #784755
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Nick.

    My advice is not the force yourself up a higher grade of teachings.
    You only will be a laughing stock.
    Stay in your grade until you deserve to be upgraded.

    wakeup.

    #784756
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    You may boast of your knowledge

    But your words are empty.

    #784757
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    “God’s doctrine is His wife. His doctrine can never be above God.”

    This is not of scripture

    Discern the scriptures

     

    #784758
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Anyone who has read the scriptures will soon be aware when reading your teachings that they have no basis in the Word and are from your imagination

    Out of the mouth comes what the heart is full of.

    False teachings

     

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