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- November 17, 2014 at 6:11 pm#784591LightenupParticipant
you said:
The church is said to be the body of Christ and the head is Christ. Do you agree?
Is Christ to marry his own body? No.
You need to discover God’s Woman; and the bride of Christ; Which is the daughter of God’s woman.After marriage, the bridegroom and the bride become one flesh, so this fits very well for Christ to be the head of this union of Jesus with his church, His bride. The man is the head of the woman in a marriage.
Mark 10
6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.Eph 5
23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.I hope that helps!
November 17, 2014 at 9:03 pm#784593WakeupParticipantHi Lightenup.
Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
The lambs wife = a great CITY = Holy Jerusalem.
wakeup.
November 18, 2014 at 12:29 pm#784615WakeupParticipantHi Kerwin.
We have not heard of your explanation regarding the bride of Christ.
Can you give us one?wakeup.
November 18, 2014 at 4:49 pm#784633LightenupParticipant@Wakeup
Hi there,
The holy city is the church.Consider these passages:
Rev 19
7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.Isaiah 61
6But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.7For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.
8For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.
9And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.
10I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
November 19, 2014 at 2:29 am#784647WakeupParticipantLightenup.
Just try find the City of God Holy Jerusalem, and the city of the world, Babylon the great.
wakeup
November 19, 2014 at 4:31 am#784650LightenupParticipantThis is simple.
Holy Jerusalem=those clothed in the righteousness of Jesus (the church-the bride of Christ)
Babyon the great=those not clothed in the righteousness of Jesus
November 19, 2014 at 7:27 pm#784682WakeupParticipantLIghtenup.
You finally got it right.
It is the clothing, not the person.
One must not be found naked; without clothing.Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
wakeup.
November 19, 2014 at 7:37 pm#784684LightenupParticipant@Wakeup
The Holy Jerusalem is the church made up of persons who are clothed in the righteousness of Christ. This is what I have been saying all along.November 19, 2014 at 7:48 pm#784685WakeupParticipantHi Lightenup.
1.The people are the invited to the wedding.
2.The bride is the clothing they have on.Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
wakeup.
November 19, 2014 at 9:11 pm#784687carmelParticipantHi there, The holy city is the church.
Lightenup, and Wakeup!
THE HOLY CITY IS THE CHURCH FOR SURE!
BUT AS IT IS NOW THE CHURCH IS IN THE PROCESS TO UNIFY
THE SOUL “THE WORD” THE ENTIRE CREATURES AS SOULS
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT! THE ENTIRE CREATURES AS SPIRITS
THAT MEANS THAT GOD WOULD HAVE ACHIEVED, THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT ,TO PUT JESUS’ENEMIES AS JESUS’FOOTSTOOL!
SINCE BOTH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND SATAN’S SPIRIT ARE STILL BATTLING TO OWN SOULS, WHICH ONLY AS IT SEEMS SATAN IS WINNING,AND THE MAJORITY OF THE SOULS ARE GOING IN HELL!
SO WHEN THE CHURCH SUCCEEDS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, TO PUT ALL JESUS’ ENEMIES AS HIS FOOTSTOOL, THEREFORE GOD’S ENEMIES ACCEPT THAT JESUS’ IS
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!
THAT WOULD MEAN
THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE BRIDEGROOM! FROM THE ENTIRE CREATURES’ SIDE!
THE SOULS UNITED WITH THE SPIRITS! SINCE ALL IS SPIRITUAL AND NOTHING CARNAL! THE BRIDE TO BE!
SO STILL, THAT WOULD ALSO MEAN THAT IT’S NOT YET THE HOLY CITY
THE NEW JERUSALEM
THE NEW PURE WHITE CLOTHING OF FLESH
BUT ALSO SPIRITUAL!
THE BRIDE!
AND THAT COULD ONLY COME THROUGH GOD THE FATHER!
ACCORDING TO HIS PLEASURE
FROM OUR SIDE POINT OF VIEW WE COULD ONLY PREPARE AND MAKE OURSELVES READY FOR THE WEDDING, AS GUESTS, WHICH MEANS WHAT I HAVE SAID ABOVE, ACHIEVE
THE SPIRITUALIZATION OF THE SOUL AND BE ONE WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT!
ABANDON THIS CORRUPPTED WORLDLY CARNAL SYSTEM TO ACHIEVE THE SPIRITUAL HEAVENLY SYSTEM, WHILE STILL ON EARTH!
THROUGH JESUS’GOSPEL!
Peace and love in Jesus
CharlesNovember 19, 2014 at 10:12 pm#784688WakeupParticipantCarmel.
A church with all naked men and women is not Christs church.
We must not appear naked before the Lord.
We must not appear naked on the wedding feast; we will be cast out.
The bride is the the righteousness we have put on.Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
With no wedding garment on one will not be accepted on the wedding.
Put on the white robes so you can come to the wedding feast and be accepted.
Do not come naked. You will be cast out.wakeup.
November 19, 2014 at 10:32 pm#784689WakeupParticipantCarmel;
Are you a priest or preacher?
You seem to spin words to please your self and your doctrine.
The spin stops with the scriptures Carmel.wakeup.
November 20, 2014 at 5:07 am#784714LightenupParticipantyou said:
ABANDON THIS CORRUPPTED WORLDLY CARNAL SYSTEM TO ACHIEVE THE SPIRITUAL HEAVENLY SYSTEM, WHILE STILL ON EARTH!
Would you please tell me how you think that I am holding on to a corrupted worldly carnal system?
November 20, 2014 at 5:32 am#784715LightenupParticipant@Wakeup
you said:1.The people are the invited to the wedding.
2.The bride is the clothing they have on.Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Sorry, I disagree. The passages in Matthew are an allegory of the kingdom of heaven and those who have no wedding garment are the theives and robbers, hypocrites, that are trying to get into the kingdom another way besides being clothed in the righteousness of Jesus.
Please allow these following passages show you that the church here is compared to the ‘wife’, it doesn’t compare the righteousness of Christ to the ‘wife.’
22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
November 20, 2014 at 6:49 am#784723NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Gal 3.27
“For all of you who were BAPTISED into Christ have CLOTHED YOURSELF with Christ”
“the spin stops with the scriptures”
Stop making it up.
November 20, 2014 at 11:29 am#784754WakeupParticipantLIghtenup.
You can disagree, but need to discern the scriptures.
God’s doctrine is His wife. His doctrine can never be above God.
Just as His Word can never Be above God.We need to present ourselves perfect without spot nor wrinkle.
God is Holy And We should be Holy; meaning clean and perfect.
His doctrine = HiS Word. His flesh we need to eat, and His blood we need to drink.We are members of his BODY, His flesh and his bones.
We are members of the true church of God. Jesus is not going to marry his own body.
But His doctrine that has come to perfection in his church.
His body is in corruption state today, which are the churches; They can not be accepted as guests on His wedding.When the teachings has reached perfection during the 1000yr teachings; then the bride is ready.
All members have reached perfection, and will be invited to the wedding.
All will have their wedding garments on. None will be cast out.Then only, knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth.
We need to be clothed, not walking naked. Adam and His wife were naked, and were ashamed and hiding;
because they have not kept the commandment of God.( A husband and wife is as one flesh; Just as God and His Wife is one spirit).
Shalom
wakeup.November 20, 2014 at 11:39 am#784755WakeupParticipantNick.
My advice is not the force yourself up a higher grade of teachings.
You only will be a laughing stock.
Stay in your grade until you deserve to be upgraded.wakeup.
November 20, 2014 at 12:14 pm#784756NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
You may boast of your knowledge
But your words are empty.
November 20, 2014 at 12:15 pm#784757NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
“God’s doctrine is His wife. His doctrine can never be above God.”
This is not of scripture
Discern the scriptures
November 20, 2014 at 1:01 pm#784758NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Anyone who has read the scriptures will soon be aware when reading your teachings that they have no basis in the Word and are from your imagination
Out of the mouth comes what the heart is full of.
False teachings
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