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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 06 2013,11:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 04 2013,19:57) Mike b. Who have proven them flaws?
Are they not men judges?
I have, for one. Many scholars have as well. And yes, I suppose we are “men judges”…….. but weren't the ones who originally translated the KJV also mere “men”?Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 04 2013,19:57) You are still denying the POWER of God.
That He is capable to preserve his Word to the end.
I don't deny God's ultimate and absolute power over EVERYTHING in existence. And I don't deny His ability to preserve His written word. Perhaps that is the reason we're slowly uncovering older and better mss all the time – because God has preserved His word for us as it was – before the centuries of scribes and their alterations got to it.What I deny is that the KJV is the one and only version of God's written word that He preserved unblemished.
Mike B.There must be one only bible that God has preserved.
Jesus was mere man too.
all the apostles were mere man also.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,09:12) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,10:19) w Quote Oh the baby needs sitting again. I am a bad babysitter ,so be prepared ,
your quote is totally out of true understanding the reason for it is ;you do not understand God's will and plan ;and you refuse to read the scriptures and test the scriptures version so that the truth can be grasp by you ,but you are under the gloom of the KJV version and so will never see clear,
also you have to many preset believes that are not supported by any scriptures version ,and you are hard to change ,I know ,
T.scriptures please.
wakeup.
WI have already answer those scriptures in a previous quote,
Those scriptures are related to Christ ,
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,14:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,09:12) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,10:19) w Quote Oh the baby needs sitting again. I am a bad babysitter ,so be prepared ,
your quote is totally out of true understanding the reason for it is ;you do not understand God's will and plan ;and you refuse to read the scriptures and test the scriptures version so that the truth can be grasp by you ,but you are under the gloom of the KJV version and so will never see clear,
also you have to many preset believes that are not supported by any scriptures version ,and you are hard to change ,I know ,
T.scriptures please.
wakeup.
WI have already answer those scriptures in a previous quote,
Those scriptures are related to Christ ,
T.This means that you can not provide the scriptures
To proof your doctrine.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,10:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,14:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,09:12) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,10:19) w Quote Oh the baby needs sitting again. I am a bad babysitter ,so be prepared ,
your quote is totally out of true understanding the reason for it is ;you do not understand God's will and plan ;and you refuse to read the scriptures and test the scriptures version so that the truth can be grasp by you ,but you are under the gloom of the KJV version and so will never see clear,
also you have to many preset believes that are not supported by any scriptures version ,and you are hard to change ,I know ,
T.scriptures please.
wakeup.
WI have already answer those scriptures in a previous quote,
Those scriptures are related to Christ ,
T.This means that you can not provide the scriptures
To proof your doctrine.wakeup.
whow can someone learn algebra when he cannot even count to 10 on his fingers
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 05 2013,20:46) Mike, Quote 1. Didn't Micaiah himself originally LIE to Ahab by saying, “Attack and be victorious, for Jehovah will give it into the king’s hand” ? YES Did you miss the next verse……..
Nope. But did Micaiah LIE or not? And since he DID lie, do we now refer to him forever as “Evil Micaiah, Servant of Satan”?Also, did Micaiah LIE when he told Ahab's messengers that he would only say whatever Jehovah told him to say? Or was Jehovah the one who put him up to those original deceiving words he told Ahab?
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,21:16) Mike B. There must be one only bible that God has preserved.
Well if He did, it surely isn't the KJV. Surely you're beginning to see that with your own eyes with every new comparison scripture journey posts, right?Wakeup, the truth is preserved in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek words…… not in any one English translation of those words.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2013,05:57) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 05 2013,20:46) Mike, Quote 1. Didn't Micaiah himself originally LIE to Ahab by saying, “Attack and be victorious, for Jehovah will give it into the king’s hand” ? YES Did you miss the next verse……..
Nope. But did Micaiah LIE or not? And since he DID lie, do we now refer to him forever as “Evil Micaiah, Servant of Satan”?Also, did Micaiah LIE when he told Ahab's messengers that he would only say whatever Jehovah told him to say? Or was Jehovah the one who put him up to those original deceiving words he told Ahab?
Mike,If a man sins and does not confess his sin he should not expect anything of the Lord.
Micaiah performed many actions off the pages of Scripture and I know not what they were and even if I did I am not his judge, God is.
Micaiah is a human and not an angel. Angels that sin blaspheme against the Holy Spirit while Micaiah did not even receive it to live by.
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,03:08) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,10:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,14:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,09:12) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,10:19) w Quote Oh the baby needs sitting again. I am a bad babysitter ,so be prepared ,
your quote is totally out of true understanding the reason for it is ;you do not understand God's will and plan ;and you refuse to read the scriptures and test the scriptures version so that the truth can be grasp by you ,but you are under the gloom of the KJV version and so will never see clear,
also you have to many preset believes that are not supported by any scriptures version ,and you are hard to change ,I know ,
T.scriptures please.
wakeup.
WI have already answer those scriptures in a previous quote,
Those scriptures are related to Christ ,
T.This means that you can not provide the scriptures
To proof your doctrine.wakeup.
whow can someone learn algebra when he cannot even count to 10 on his fingers
T.Still waiting for your wisdom to show.
And dont just quote scriptures not related to the topic.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,09:38) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,03:08) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,10:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,14:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,09:12) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 06 2013,10:19) w Quote Oh the baby needs sitting again. I am a bad babysitter ,so be prepared ,
your quote is totally out of true understanding the reason for it is ;you do not understand God's will and plan ;and you refuse to read the scriptures and test the scriptures version so that the truth can be grasp by you ,but you are under the gloom of the KJV version and so will never see clear,
also you have to many preset believes that are not supported by any scriptures version ,and you are hard to change ,I know ,
T.scriptures please.
wakeup.
WI have already answer those scriptures in a previous quote,
Those scriptures are related to Christ ,
T.This means that you can not provide the scriptures
To proof your doctrine.wakeup.
whow can someone learn algebra when he cannot even count to 10 on his fingers
T.Still waiting for your wisdom to show.
And dont just quote scriptures not related to the topic.wakeup.
wQuote Can you spot the difference? And then tell me why I think it's my right to question. KJV
HOSEA 11:12 Ephraim compasseth me about with lies, and the house of Israel with deceit: but Judah yet ruleth with God, and is faithful with the saints.NIV
HOSEA 11:12 Ephraim has surrounded me with lies, Israel with deceit. And Judah is unruly against God, even against the faithful Holy One.out of those two version which one do you think is the true one according of what history as revealed to us
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2013,11:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,21:16) Mike B. There must be one only bible that God has preserved.
Well if He did, it surely isn't the KJV. Surely you're beginning to see that with your own eyes with every new comparison scripture journey posts, right?Wakeup, the truth is preserved in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek words…… not in any one English translation of those words.
Mike B.Is that how you see God's intelligents?
Leaving us to dig into every scroll and every book,
to find the truth. How then, can we eat his flesh;
if it is all over the the place?
Bits of flesh here and bits of flesh there.His flesh in in one book,preserved for us the feed on.
wakeup.
w
Quote Is that how you see God's intelligents?
Leaving us to dig into every scroll and every book,
to find the truth.we did not have to dig for the dead sea scrolls ;and did not Christ say that he could make disciples out of STONES
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,15:58) w Quote Is that how you see God's intelligents?
Leaving us to dig into every scroll and every book,
to find the truth.we did not have to dig for the dead sea scrolls ;and did not Christ say that he could make disciples out of STONES
T.You can visit every library to find the truth if you want.
But you can not use that for an excuse,if
you have found none.
It seems that you are the one given the one penny.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 07 2013,11:09) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,15:58) w Quote Is that how you see God's intelligents?
Leaving us to dig into every scroll and every book,
to find the truth.we did not have to dig for the dead sea scrolls ;and did not Christ say that he could make disciples out of STONES
T.You can visit every library to find the truth if you want.
But you can not use that for an excuse,if
you have found none.
It seems that you are the one given the one penny.wakeup.
wyou seem THAT ,YOU ARE STREET SMART INDEED BUT LESS SMART IN SCRIPTURES.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,21:17) Micaiah is a human and not an angel. Angels that sin blaspheme against the Holy Spirit while Micaiah did not even receive it to live by.
I'm going to start following tigger's lead, and refuse to tolerate willful ignorance.Where is it written that an angel who sins blasphemes against the Holy Spirit?
Where is it written that Micaiah didn't live and prophecy by the Spirit of God?
Give it up, Kerwin. You are just saying things to say them.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 07 2013,05:57) …. Also, did Micaiah LIE when he told Ahab's messengers that he would only say whatever Jehovah told him to say? Or was Jehovah the one who put him up to those original deceiving words he told Ahab?
Mike,It sounds something like the case of Balaam who wavered back and forth in his service to God.
Here is something to think on. Why did the king, who chose to believe the other 400 who prophesied the same thing not believe Micaiah when he said what the servant told him to?
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,22:28) His flesh in in one book,preserved for us the feed on.
If that's true, you'd better keep searching for that one book………. because it's clear the KJV isn't it.You ignoring all the flaws we've been pointing out doesn't mean those flaws aren't there, Wakeup.
You can continue to bury your head in the sand if you want, but don't expect any of us who DO test the words against the original Hebrew and Greek texts to believe you when you tell us the KJV is the “one true book”. We already know better.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,19:33) Why did the king, who chose to believe the other 400 who prophesied the same thing not believe Micaiah when he said what the servant told him to?
When he said what? Please rephrase the question.Mike,
Quote Where is it written that Micaiah didn't live and prophecy by the Spirit of God? Micaiah prophesied by the Spirit of God but he was unable to live by it as that is a gift of the new covenant.
Romans 10:1-7
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)10 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7 or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Micaiah was under the Moses's covenant and so had the righteousness of that covenant. The righteousness of the covenant of Christ is superior and the instruction is different.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 08 2013,07:39) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,19:33) Why did the king, who chose to believe the other 400 who prophesied the same thing not believe Micaiah when he said what the servant told him to?
When he said what? Please rephrase the question.
Mike,400 or so of the king's prophets foretold that the king would be successful. The king believed them. Micaiah foretold that the king would be successful and the king called him a liar.
Knowing these things, Why do you think the the king accused Micaiah of lying in the name of God?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 08 2013,12:39) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 07 2013,19:33) Why did the king, who chose to believe the other 400 who prophesied the same thing not believe Micaiah when he said what the servant told him to?
When he said what? Please rephrase the question.
Mike B.You show me the flaws: I will proof to you that
it's not flawed.wakeup.
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