The “AKJV Bible”

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  • #379072
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (t8 @ April 22 2014,01:51)
    The scriptures meaning is what you should be focused on, not some imaginary Gematria that only works for a seventeenth century translation.


    Correction: A FLAWED 17th century translation – according to Ed himself.

    Ed doesn't even believe it 100%, right?

    You made some really good points in that long post, t8. Well done.

    #379121
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Thanks Mike.

    :)

    #380236
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Some trip over scriptures like this to think there are other forms of the elect
    1.Matthew 24:24
    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    #380340
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2014,03:42)
    Hi,
    Some trip over scriptures like this to think there are other forms of the elect
    1.Matthew 24:24
    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


    whom you got in mind Nick ???

    #384032
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ April 22 2014,17:45)
    So this leads to the next question.

    If the AKJV is annointed and is wrong about its usage of the definite article (as you say), and you by your own words correct the AKJV where it has erred, then how can it be an annointed version and yet needs you to come along and correct the annointing it has.


    Hi T8,   I'm glad that you are willing to discuss things like Christian brothers.

    First let me say that the “AKJV Bible” doesn't go from being perfect to imperfect because of
    the editors failing to italicize the English indefinite articles “a” and “an” – to think
    that I said that or even that I agreed to it would be pure foolishness.


    Let me start by stating my premise, which is the “AKJV Bible” is anointed.

    1. “Anoint” means: “to smear with oil.”
    2. “Anoint” also is used do denote “Authorized” leadership.
    Jesus is the “Christ” meaning he is God's “Anointed” Leader (A.K.A. “The King”).

    “My heart is inditing a good matter:
    I speak of the things which I have made touching
    “the king”(74): my tongue is the pen of a ready writer. Thou
    [“Jesus”(74)] art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips:
    therefore God hath blessed thee for ever. Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.”  (Psalms 45:1-3)

    “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is
    a right sceptre. Thou (Jesus Christ) lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness:
    therefore God, thy God, hath ANOINTED THEE (Jesus, the king) WITH THE OIL of gladness above thy fellows.”   (Psalms 45:6-7)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #384033
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ April 22 2014,18:51)
    Perhaps the older manuscripts have Gematria as their original languages have a built in numerical system. I am open to that possibility. But believing that a group of men for the King of England created the AKJV under a special anointing that does not exist with any other translation, well that is just fantasy. Teaching such a thing only promotes confusion and division and there is no need for it. I will be honest and just tell it to you straight. Most will think you are a nut and that will to some degree taint the true faith and give it a bad name.


    Hi T8,

    Let me explain what I mean that the “AKJV Bible”(74) is anointed
    so you don't go off on fantasy tangents; it is anointed in “2” ways:

    1. The “AKJV Bible” has God's anointing smeared all over it.
       – and –
    2. The “AKJV Bible” was Authorized under the anointing of the crown

    In the following post I will explain the “AKJV Bible” was Authorized,
    under the anointing of the crown – meaning King David's Crown.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #384034
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    It was Authorized under the Crown, Authorized by King James I in 1603.

                                             A brief history

    After the 10 Northern tribes separated from the 2 Southern tribes (Judah and Benjamin), by YHVH's orders.
    The crown was taken over the Caucuses mountains, and was first settled in Europe in Scotland (Berkshire I think).
    Later the crown moved to England, where the “United Kingdom” has been ruling from ever since. Brittan is considered Ephraim,
    and the “United States” is considered Manasseh. Ephraim and Manasseh were the two sons of Joesph, where Jacob's blessings went.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #384035
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ April 22 2014,18:51)
    And why is the AKJV anointed when it didn't have access to the oldest manuscripts and it includes obvious additions such as the Comma Johanneum.


    Hi T8,

    “The Johannine Comma” was added to the third printing of the the Textus Receptus
    from pressure from the Catholics. It fulfills the prophecy given in Isaiah…

    “I also will choose their delusions”  (Isaiah 66:4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #384037
    Ed J
    Participant

    Next question

    #384509
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 25 2014,09:09)
    Next question


    DID GOD CREATED EVIL ??? NO

    KJV SAYS YES

    #384834
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2014,05:45)
    DID GOD CREATED EVIL ??? NO

    KJV SAYS YES


    Hi Pierre,

    This question is off topic,
    but I will answer it.

    Yes

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #385069
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 28 2014,03:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2014,05:45)
    DID GOD CREATED EVIL ??? NO

    KJV SAYS YES


    Hi Pierre,

    This question is off topic,
    but I will answer it.

    Yes

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ

    i SAY “NO ” CAN YOU PROVE HE DID ???

    MY ARGUMENT IS THAT SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT GOD IS LOVE,RIGHTEOUS,TRUE,FAITHFUL,FULL OF WISDOM,JUST,HOLY ,PURE,ETC;;;;

    FOR ALL THOSE REASONS GOD CANNOT HAVE CREATED “EVIL” BECAUSE EVIL LACKS ALL OF THOSE ,

    SO WHY YOU THINK GOD AS CREATED (BEING THE SOURCE) EVIL ,

    i WANT TO SEE THE SPIRITUAL AND SCRIPTURAL UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR DECLARATION ,

    #385070
    terraricca
    Participant

    EDJ

    AND THIS IS NOT OFF TOPIC, READ THE TOPIC TITLE ;THIS PUTS THE KJV IN QUESTION

    #385103
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,00:27)
    EDJ

    AND THIS IS NOT OFF TOPIC,  READ THE TOPIC TITLE ;THIS PUTS THE KJV IN QUESTION


    Hi Pierre,

    OK, fair enough.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #385108
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,00:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 28 2014,03:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2014,05:45)
    DID GOD CREATED EVIL ??? NO

    KJV SAYS YES


    Hi Pierre,

    Yes

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ

    i SAY “NO ” CAN YOU PROVE HE DID ???

    MY ARGUMENT IS THAT SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT GOD IS LOVE,RIGHTEOUS,TRUE,FAITHFUL,FULL OF WISDOM,JUST,HOLY ,PURE,ETC;;;;

    FOR ALL THOSE REASONS GOD CANNOT HAVE CREATED “EVIL” BECAUSE EVIL LACKS ALL OF THOSE ,

    SO WHY YOU THINK GOD AS CREATED (BEING THE SOURCE) EVIL ,

    i WANT TO SEE THE SPIRITUAL AND SCRIPTURAL UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR DECLARATION ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Yes I can prove it (ref. 1Thess.5:21); maybe not to you though,
    because some people ignore proof, even after it is given to them.

    “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,
     and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”  (Isaiah 45:7)

    How does 'your bible' translate Genesis 2:17?         (<– please answer)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #385114
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2014,02:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,00:25)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 28 2014,03:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2014,05:45)
    DID GOD CREATED EVIL ??? NO

    KJV SAYS YES


    Hi Pierre,

    Yes

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ

    i SAY “NO ” CAN YOU PROVE HE DID ???

    MY ARGUMENT IS THAT SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT GOD IS LOVE,RIGHTEOUS,TRUE,FAITHFUL,FULL OF WISDOM,JUST,HOLY ,PURE,ETC;;;;

    FOR ALL THOSE REASONS GOD CANNOT HAVE CREATED “EVIL” BECAUSE EVIL LACKS ALL OF THOSE ,

    SO WHY YOU THINK GOD AS CREATED (BEING THE SOURCE) EVIL ,

    i WANT TO SEE THE SPIRITUAL AND SCRIPTURAL UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR DECLARATION ,


    Hi Pierre,

    Yes I can prove it (ref. 1Thess.5:21); maybe not to you though,
    because some people ignore proof, even after it is given to them.

    “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,
     and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”  (Isaiah 45:7)

    How does 'your bible' translate Genesis 2:17?         (<– please answer)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ

    1Th 5:21 Test everything. Hold on to the good.
    1Th 5:22 Avoid every kind of evil.
    1Th 5:23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1Th 5:24 The one who calls you is faithful and he will do it.

    Isa 45:4 For the sake of Jacob my servant,
    of Israel my chosen,
    I summon you by name
    and bestow on you a title of honor,
    though you do not acknowledge me.
    Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other;
    apart from me there is no God.
    I will strengthen you,
    though you have not acknowledged me,
    Isa 45:6 so that from the rising of the sun
    to the place of its setting
    men may know there is none besides me.
    I am the LORD, and there is no other.
    Isa 45:7 I form the light and create darkness,
    I bring prosperity and create disaster;
    I, the LORD, do all these things.

    Isa 45:8 “You heavens above, rain down righteousness;
    let the clouds shower it down.
    Let the earth open wide,
    let salvation spring up,
    let righteousness grow with it;
    I, the LORD, have created it.

    you right i do not believe what scriptures do not teach ,and the meaning of those scriptures you quoting are not supporting your claim

    #385120
    terraricca
    Participant

    edj

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    How does 'your bible' translate Genesis 2:17?

    Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

    like i say I do not agree with what it says because of THE KNOWLEDGE THAT IT AS TO BE LEARNED FROM IT , the word “evil” is to extreme ,or to general and what puzzles me more ;it looks like EVIL SEEMS TO BE AROUND THEN AT THAT TIME WHEN THOSE WORDS WERE SAID ,

    AND SO ALL THE SPIRIT WORLD WAS IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF “EVIL” AND THIS MAKES GOD A SOURCE OF EVIL ,NOW EITHER THE ANGELS HAVE ALREADY EATEN OF THE EVIL TREE IN HEAVEN BUT IT SEEMS THAT THEIR WAS NO TREE LIKE IT IN HEAVEN

    SO WHAT WAS IT THAT MEN BECAME LIKE ONE OF THEM ??? WHERE THE ANGELS BETTER THAT THEY DID NOT LOSE THEIR OWN LIVE BY THAT KNOWLEDGE ???

    Ge 3:22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

    SO YES THIS IS MY ANSWER

    #385206
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,08:18)
    edj

    Quote
    How does 'your bible' translate Genesis 2:17?  


    Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”


    Hi Pierre,

    Did you know that Gen.2:17 has the same word as in Isaiah 45:7 (Strong's H7451)?

    “I form the light , and create darkness : I make peace , and create evil : I the LORD do all these things.”  (Isaiah 45:7)

    “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die .”  (Gen 2:17)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #385207
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,08:18)
    SO YES THIS IS MY ANSWER


    What does that mean?   Your answer is “Yes” to what exactly?

    #385241
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 29 2014,05:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ May 29 2014,08:18)
    SO YES THIS IS MY ANSWER


    What does that mean?   Your answer is “Yes” to what exactly?


    edj

    (<– please answer)

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