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Quote Through Christ is through his spirit, not another little god. Scripture does not say that. show me one scripture that says this ???I mean that ALL CREATION WAS DONE THROUGH CHRIST SPIRIT
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Quote “To us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, on account of whom are all things, and we by Him. do you not see that Christ his son is HIS assistant and that God almighty the father is creating all things through him and for him ,
if the scriptures calls the angels gods what would you call the one that is born out of God almighty as his first creation
remember god means almighty,Quote (2besee @ June 26 2013,06:40) Quote The bible does not teach eternal torments,it teach eternal destruction ,this means you are gone ,means total destruction The rest of your comment does not tell me anything just grammar
Good. So how did you come to that conclusion? Through study? through word study?
Well to you, word study when something does not fit in with scripture seems wrong. It is not wrong. We have no excuses today as we have the Internet.God ALONE created the Heavens and the Earth. Nobody was beside him, there was no little god there. Because THAT is what scriptures say, so rather then see a contradiction and TRY to change other scriptures to fit that contradiction, further inspection is needed. So that is what I posted.
Quote You do not read the bible and so you do not gain nothing That is a lie!
Quote I know and see that you are familiar with on line bible programs and religion comenteries, But this is your way,
Another story which you are making up.
Quote God is the only creator I never denied that ,but he did all creation through Christ says the bible,and that is what I believe, Through Christ is through his spirit, not another little god. Scripture does not say that.
Quote Just as God created us through our parents , But what God created first was his son ,and he called him the Word,and he was an almighty after his father ,almighty is translated from the Hebrew word ,EL,
god in English is it not
That is only your opinion and the doctrines of men.
2beeQuote Good. So how did you come to that conclusion? Through study? through word study?
Well to you, word study when something does not fit in with scripture seems wrong. It is not wrong. We have no excuses today as we have the Internet.I study the scriptures by reading them like first 20 times and always ask question about this and that and so find the answers in the scriptures first not in books ,in books it is good for grammar,history ,ect. but first you have to know the scriptures ,YOU CANNOT COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING YOU DO NOT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND ,IF YOU DO ,YOU ALWAYS WILL BE SET BACK,
internet LET YOU SEE AND READ SOMEONE ELSE OPINION ABOUT SCRIPTURES ;SO DOING YOU ARE GIVEN ATTENTION TO MEN AND NOT TO GOD'S WORD ,BUT YOU AND I ARE FREE MAN AND DO WHAT WE WANT .
Hi Terraricca,
We have been over this before and I get pretty tired of repetition. But okay, you have had your say.
Regarding the topic – I did not like the way you were speaking to other members. I hope to see some lasting improvement.
Anyway, Terraricca –
All the best. Might catch up on some other thread, okay?Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,11:58) Terraricca, The difference in you and me is that I believe that what pre existed was the Word, also known as the Spirit of Christ, also known as the Spirit of the Son, and also known as the Holy Spirit (there is only one Spirit), which is a part of the one God – it is God's very Spirit – which came on and in the man, Jesus of Nazareth the anointed, and this was fore known that Jesus would be a perfect sinless man. This is all in scripture.
You do not really know what pre existed. You do not know if it was an Angel, or a little God, do you?
So which one is it for you?
Hi 2Besee,Jesus had the spirit of Christ since his birth, since that is his own spirit as we have our own spirit,
and Jesus was baptized with the “HolySpirit” immediately after receiving John's baptism. (Matt. 3:16)“And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove,
and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water,
the same(YHVH) said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining
on him, the same(Jusus) is he which baptizeth with the HolySpirit. And I saw, and bare record that
this is the Son of God.” (John 1:32-34)It was at that point that John the baptist recognized that Jesus was the Messiah – after Jesus was baptized with the HolySpirit.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (2besee @ June 26 2013,12:29) Hi Terraricca, We have been over this before and I get pretty tired of repetition. But okay, you have had your say.
Regarding the topic – I did not like the way you were speaking to other members. I hope to see some lasting improvement.
Anyway, Terraricca –
All the best. Might catch up on some other thread, okay?
it is so easy
Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,13:13) Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,11:58) Terraricca, The difference in you and me is that I believe that what pre existed was the Word, also known as the Spirit of Christ, also known as the Spirit of the Son, and also known as the Holy Spirit (there is only one Spirit), which is a part of the one God – it is God's very Spirit – which came on and in the man, Jesus of Nazareth the anointed, and this was fore known that Jesus would be a perfect sinless man. This is all in scripture.
You do not really know what pre existed. You do not know if it was an Angel, or a little God, do you?
So which one is it for you?
Hi 2Besee,Jesus had the spirit of Christ since his birth, since that is his own spirit as we have our own spirit,
and Jesus was baptized with the “HolySpirit” immediately after receiving John's baptism. (Matt. 3:16)“And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove,
and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water,
the same(YHVH) said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining
on him, the same(Jusus) is he which baptizeth with the HolySpirit. And I saw, and bare record that
this is the Son of God.” (John 1:32-34)It was at that point that John the baptist recognized that Jesus was the Messiah – after Jesus was baptized with the HolySpirit.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou can not even understand what is written in that scripture
edj
none of the scriptures ever says that Christ as been BAPTIZED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT nor does it says that THE HOLY SPIRIT IS HIS FATHER ,
WORSE YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT HE WAS BAPTIZED BY HIS OWN FATHER
? AND SO DECLARING THE HOLY SPIRIT HIS GOD AND NOT OF GOD ,HUMM,HUMM CONFUSING TO SAY THE LEASTQuote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,21:00) Baptized “WITH” the HolySpirit – not 'by'.
EDJok, my mistake ;but if the holy spirit his Christ father then it would be BY and not with is it not
Hi Pierre,
It would be “BY” means of John that the Father baptized Jesus with his Spirit.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,23:02) Hi Pierre, It would be “BY” means of John that the Father baptized Jesus with his Spirit.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjso i see you find a way
but that is a lie anyway ,because you have made the holy spirit a being ,what he is not ,
Jn 5:19 Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
can you see that the holy spirit is not mention as been a part of Christ the son does,
Jn 1:16 From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another.
Jn 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Jn 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father’s side, has made him known.show me one scripture were it says that Christ was or is baptized with,by,the holy spirit
?Quote (terraricca @ June 29 2013,08:15) show me one scripture were it says that Christ was or is baptized with,by,the holy spirit ?
“Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
And the HolySpirit descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon
him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my
beloved Son; in thee I'm well pleased.” (Luke 3:21-22)
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