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- March 26, 2015 at 9:06 am#791717
DavidL
Participantso – change the subject if you don’t have an answer..?
March 26, 2015 at 9:08 am#791719NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
It is not about me or you but about true doctrine
There are many false teachers drawing crowds after them.
March 26, 2015 at 9:12 am#791721DavidL
ParticipantYes…you also have something to say – but why should I listen to you Nick…are YOU born again..?
March 26, 2015 at 9:24 am#791722NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
I have obeyed the command.
You should listen to the Spirit.
March 26, 2015 at 9:28 am#791724NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
I enjoy the peace that passes all understanding.
It is precious.
March 26, 2015 at 10:09 am#791726DavidL
ParticipantSo…you have received Jesus Christ as your Savior..?
You cannot know Him as your Lord or your God, unless you first know Him as your Savior…!
March 26, 2015 at 12:15 pm#791738NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
Where does scripture speak of
“receiving Jesus Christ as your saviour”
or is this just another false way promoted by the latest false teachers?
March 26, 2015 at 1:10 pm#791742DavidL
ParticipantCome on Nick, why do play ignorant – Jesus is Savior isn’t He..?
…is He YOUR Savior..?
March 26, 2015 at 1:20 pm#791746NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
And soon as you can show the question has some scriptural relevance.
March 26, 2015 at 1:22 pm#791747NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
There is no other name in heaven and earth by which we can be saved.””
But making such a declaration without obedience to his commands is more uselessness.
“Why do you call me Lord Lord and not do as I say?
March 26, 2015 at 1:25 pm#791748NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
Read the scriptures.
Compare this with the modern demand that we give our lives to Jesus and ask him to be our saviour .
Is there any similarity? Should we follow men or obey the Master?
March 26, 2015 at 1:25 pm#791749DavidL
Participantreally, I will have to assume you are another one who just likes to talk about religious things..without any personal experience of knowing who Jesus is..
March 26, 2015 at 1:33 pm#791751NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
Would you be convinced if I shared personal experiences with you?
You have your own deeply rooted beliefs so how would anyone get through your prejudices?
remain content but you have heard enough.
March 26, 2015 at 1:37 pm#791752DavidL
Participantprejudices..because I accept the truth you cannot understand…?!
I have given you Scripture, but you just ignore it…!!
The Pharisees loved debating Scripture too, Nick..
..what did Jesus say…?
“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me: and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.”
March 26, 2015 at 2:39 pm#791758NickHassan
ParticipantHi davidl,
Yes you are only here to defend what you admit is of man.
You love defining him but cannot come to him.
March 26, 2015 at 4:50 pm#791762kerwin
ParticipantDavidH,
You are prejudiced because you are afraid to test the spirit of your teaching. I have tested it and it has the spirit of confusion and God is not a God of confusion. If you believed Jesus then you would believe that line up on line Scripture supports itself. You would not believe Jesus is God because you would be confident that God cannot be tempted by evil while Jesus was tempted as we are. Instead you choose to believe that Jesus cannot be tempted as we are even at the same time you believe he is tempted even as we are. That is the fruit of the flesh and not the fruit of the Spirit for the Spirit is not a Spirit of contradictions.
I think it is a waste of my time to point because you have sold your soul to a lie and to discover that will destroy what faith you live by even if that faith is in a lie. Satan baits his traps well.
Jesus instruct us to repent or we will perish.
March 26, 2015 at 8:21 pm#791770bodhitharta
ParticipantDavidL
I know your heart is in the right place in regards to loving God even though we disagree regarding doctrine so although I will continue to discuss doctrine and spiritual teachings with you there is one thing for sure:
Luke 9:50
And Jesus said unto him, “Forbid him not; for he that is not against us, is for us.”So I will not nor cannot accuse you of not having the wonderful experiences with God as you have said so why should I doubt that:
Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in Heaven, “Now have come salvation and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ; for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night.God is great.
Isaiah 59:1
Behold, the Lord’S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither His ear heavy, that it cannot hear.we would all love to believe that our version of what we know about God is the correct and only version but I will say:
Psalm 70:4
Let all those that seek Thee rejoice and be glad in Thee; and let such as love Thy salvation say continually, “Let God be magnified!”In conclusion:
Revelation 7:1021st Century King James Version (KJ21)
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!”
March 27, 2015 at 9:14 am#791782bodhitharta
ParticipantDavidL
Now back to our truth seeking
Revelation 7:1021st Century King James Version (KJ21)
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!”
In the scripture above there is God and then there is the Lamb, who is the Lamb?
March 27, 2015 at 7:55 pm#791811NickHassan
ParticipantHi,
There is no valid doctrine of a trinity.
It a fantasy drawn by those outside the gate
March 28, 2015 at 9:19 pm#791904carmel
ParticipantThere is no valid doctrine of a trinity.
Nick,
Explain hereunder regarding the TRINITY!
Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.
AS YOU CAN READ:
THE INVISIBLE THINGS OF GOD, ARE CLEARLY SEEN FROM THE CREATION OF THE WORLD!
BEING UNDERSTOOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE;
HIS ETERNAL POWER ALSO,
AND DIVINITY:
NOW THIS IS FOR YOU AND ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY CONCEPT,
SO THAT THEY ARE INEXCUSABLE
THE TRINITY IS THE MOST UNIQUE POWER FUNCTION THE DEITY ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE VERY FIRST BEGINNING IN ORDER TO CREATE.
ON HIS OWN HE NEVER NEEDED IT , ALTHOUGH IT WAS ALWAYS WITHIN HIMSELF! ALL IN THE DEITY!
BUT TO CREATE HE TRANSFORMED IT INTO:
“THE WORD” HIS SON, WISDOM, LIGHT!
WHICH WAS WITHIN THE BEGINNING ITSELF: LUCIFER! THE FIRST ARCHANGEL! a created god! the only one tangible in that moment in time!
in the beginning was the word:
IN LUCIFER WAS THE WORD!
THE LIGHT BEARER!
THE LIGHT/WISDOM, WAS THE SON, “THE WORD”
THE BEARER WAS LUCIFER, CREATION! MATTER TO BE!
So it ‘s up to the individual THAT IN THE TRUTH OF IT, reflect on CREATION ITSELF and once you do it in LOVE for God, NOT TO SEE IF IT’S TRUE OR NOT, THE FACT THAT YOU ACCEPT IT BEFOREHAND, GOD WOULD REVEAL IT TO YOU
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT GOD WOULD EVEN MAKE YOU MORE BLIND NOT TO SEE IT SINCE WE DEPEND ON FAITH
ALSO, TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR:
NOT AS THREE PERSONS THOUGH WHICH IS A MISGUIDED TEACHING! SINCE EVEN GOD HIMSELF IS NOT A PERSON AS SUCH! BUT AN UNFATHOMABLE SPIRIT BEING WITHOUT A BEGINNING AND AND END, WHICH A PERSON IS NOT!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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