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- March 22, 2015 at 3:46 pm#791412NickHassanParticipant
Hi KW,
So Elisha could not see the angels and then he could.
Rationalisation is a form of deceit I am sure you know
March 22, 2015 at 3:49 pm#791413NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
“Sometimes I am curious about what bible you read and this is one of those times because you should already be aware that Scripture declares that before Adam was fell from God’s grace he did not sin. I already quoted a Scripture to bodhitarta from Ecclesiastes that tells us humanity was created upright.”
Before the law no sin was apportioned.
But you ascribed other meanings to this by saying sin caused men to longer be in the likeness of God.
March 22, 2015 at 4:53 pm#791414NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
My apologies
The servant did not see angels but horses and chariots of fire
March 22, 2015 at 6:38 pm#791415bodhithartaParticipantI already quoted a Scripture to bodhitharta from Ecclesiastes that tells us humanity was created upright.”
I never doubted that humanity was created upright so why did you quote that to me?
March 23, 2015 at 3:59 am#791421NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
You want to find truth?
Then do it the scriptural way
The formula is in 2 cor13.1
“..Every fact is to be confirmed by 2 or three witnesses..”
Since trinity is not taught once in scripture the motion fails.
March 23, 2015 at 7:39 am#791424DavidLParticipantSince trinity is not taught once in scripture the motion fails
“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” – Matthew 28:19
March 23, 2015 at 7:48 am#791425DavidLParticipant“When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father–the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father–he will testify about Me.” – John 15:26
March 23, 2015 at 8:03 am#791426DavidLParticipant“Now all of us can come to the Father through the same Holy Spirit because of what Christ has done for us.” – Ephesians 2:18
March 23, 2015 at 8:11 am#791427NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
So none teach a trinity.
Have you yet been joined with the Holy Spirit in Christ so you can approach the throne of grace of the Father?
Or are you stuck in theology outside the gate?
March 23, 2015 at 8:34 am#791430NickHassanParticipantHi Davidl,
Instead of intellectually trying to divide God into three parts
see how God wants us united with him in Christ by the Spirit.
March 23, 2015 at 8:36 am#791431DavidLParticipantThe underlying issue with the trinity [Father, Son and Holy Spirit working together as one], is the Deity of Christ –
You accept that Thomas calls Jesus, Lord and God… but when I call Jesus Lord and God, you say I am worshiping an idol..?
Just the fact alone that Christ is worshiped – should give you some indication of who He is…
“..Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.”
“For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.”
“Before Abraham was born, I AM”
“I and the Father are one.”
March 23, 2015 at 8:59 am#791433DavidLParticipantJust in saying these things about Christ, should show us (if indeed we have eyes to see, and ears to hear), whether it is inspired of God, or (if false) grieving the Spirit…. if we would listen to that inner witness (instead of trusting man’s logic), it would save us a lot of headache and confusion.
March 23, 2015 at 9:28 am#791436NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
So men should worship the vessel as well as God within that vessel?
The prophets were not worshipped were they?
March 23, 2015 at 9:30 am#791437NickHassanParticipanthi davidl,
You think God was playing tricks?
He wanted “intelligent” men to read between the lines rather than take anything at face value?
God prefers the simplicity of children
Where are the wise?
March 23, 2015 at 9:32 am#791438NickHassanParticipantHi Davidl
“You accept that Thomas calls Jesus, Lord and God… but when I call Jesus Lord and God, you say I am worshiping an idol..?”
You missed the message given directly by Jesus to Thomas in Jn 14.
Thomas learned.
“My lord AND my God”
March 23, 2015 at 9:35 am#791439NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
The people cried out
” God has visited His people”
They knew of the way God used vessels.
But natural men get confused and worship the vessel.
March 23, 2015 at 9:39 am#791441DavidLParticipantif you are not born of the Spirit…how can you understand..?
March 23, 2015 at 9:40 am#791442NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Yes I feel for you.
March 23, 2015 at 9:42 am#791443NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Were you born of one member of your trinity??
How odd.
March 23, 2015 at 9:46 am#791444DavidLParticipantgive your life to Jesus, Nick…
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