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- March 14, 2022 at 8:26 pm#930481kerasParticipant
In our Bibles the sun and the moon are mentioned many times. Some are allegorical, but most describe actual changes and differences to those visible objects.
The sun and the moon are established in the heavens, in the known area of space, which continues into infinity. Psalms 74:16, Jeremiah 31:35
The sun and the moon are also used metaphorically; Psalms 84:11, Micah 4:2 and Matthew 15:43 tell us about the sun of Righteousness. Revelation 12:1 tells about a ‘woman’ clothed with the sun, who represents faithful Israel, who are now; every true Christian person.
However: there are many Bible prophesies which plainly describe dramatic changes to the sun and the moon. Isaiah 26:30 says that the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness and the moon will reflect it, as it does now, at about a seventh of the suns current strength. This event is what Luke 21:23, Revelation 6:12-17 and more than 100 other verses prophesy – the terrible Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath.
Then other Prophesies say how the sun will be darkened; Isaiah 13:10, Joel 2:10 & 3:15, and Amos 8:9 says this will happen at noon.
Zephaniah 2:4-6 also cites noontime for when the Middle East will be devastated by the Lord’s wrath. Hosea 4:3, Isaiah 10:23, Ezekiel 6:14, Joel 1:20
The next time the sun is mentioned, is in Revelation 16:8; the Fourth Trumpet.
Then; when Jesus Returns; the sun will again be darkened. Matthew 24:29, Isaiah 24:23
Finally; after the Millennium, there will no longer be a sun or moon for Eternity. Isaiah 60:19-20, Revelation 22:5
So what we need to do is to figure out the correct sequence of events and how they are caused. This will enable us to stand firm as dramatic things occur and then to stand before Jesus, having proved our faith in Him and our trust in His protection.
March 14, 2022 at 10:26 pm#930483ProclaimerParticipantFinally; after the Millennium, there will no longer be a sun or moon for Eternity. Isaiah 60:19-20, Revelation 22:5
I don’t think it says that there will be no sun or moon. Rather, we won’t NEED the sun or moon for light. Why? Because the light from the sun and moon will be like a candle compared to the light of God. We will probably still need the sun for other purposes.
You’ll have no more NEED of the sun by day nor the brightness of the moon at night. God will be your eternal light, your God will bathe you in splendor.
There will be no more night. They will not NEED the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.
March 15, 2022 at 7:32 am#930489kerasParticipantThanks Proclaimer, you are probably right.
But my post was to show that the forthcoming end time events will commence with signs in the sun and moon. They will be very dramatic and world changing.
March 17, 2022 at 12:20 am#930513ProclaimerParticipantNo probs keras. As you know:
And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years
March 17, 2022 at 3:04 am#930514GeneBalthropParticipantProclaimer. …..That could be, because the sun and moon , is what causes the earth to produce or bring forth living things that we need to eat inorder to live, but we will not need those things in order to live in that Day, because God himself will sustain our lives by his spirit dwelling in us, keeping us alive for evermore.
Peace and love to you and yours Proclainer. ………..gene
March 17, 2022 at 3:37 am#930515GeneBalthropParticipantKeras……..You are right , the return of Jesus , will be proceeded by a HUGH CELESTIAL EVENT. Just as Jesus said would happen at his return. Most people are looking at what is written in Revelations at what is to take place at the return of God the Father, because they don’t understand , the truth that John was carried by the Spirit to the Day of the return of God the Father , which takes place at the end of the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ and the Saints. There looking at the battle of Armageddon that takes place at the end of Jesus and the saints rule on this earth. Because they don’t get the timeline right by not understanding what, Rev 17 is saying.
Jesus return is about Giant Tusamies (waves a roaring ) men’s hearts failing them (heart attacks) looking to those things coming on the earth, (proplexity of nations,) because they can’t do anything about it, the powers of the heavens being shaken (gravitational pulls between the planets, being shaken, causing the earth to reel to and fro, causing giant Tusamies , many will die who live on the coastal lands. IT WILL TAKE THIS WHOLE WORLD BY SUPRISE, THAT WILL BE THE NEXT BIG EVENT TO COME ON THIS EARTH, THEN WILL APPEAR, THE SIGN OF JESUS’ RETURN WITH GREAT POWER AND AUTHORITY, IN HEAVEN.
Peace and love to you and yours Keras………..gene
March 17, 2022 at 5:50 am#930518GeneBalthropParticipantTo all sorry for the mistake in my last post here , what I meant to say was most people look at the “return of Jesus Christ ” as what is written in Revelations about the return of God the Father..
Sorry .
Peace and love to you all……….gene
March 17, 2022 at 7:03 am#930520BereanParticipantThe next time the sun is mentioned, is in Revelation 16:8; the Fourth Trumpet.
Hi Keras
Révélation 16:8
[8] And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.It is the time of the last 7 plagues(not fourth trumpet) on the unrepentant, those who have received the mark of the beast AND and upon them which worshipped his image.(see verse 1,2 chap.16)
I believe that the faithful still on earth will be protected one way or another, but it will be a terrible time of trouble.Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
March 17, 2022 at 9:39 am#930521kerasParticipantIn September 1859, the Earth was struck by an awe-inspiring coronal mass ejection (CME). Astronomers observed; a brilliantly bright white flare exploded out from the sun, and auroras were seen as far south as Cuba and Jamaica.[1] This massive solar event wreaked havoc on electrical equipment across the world; telegraph wires burned off their poles, streams of fire poured forth from electrical circuits, and telegraph lines remained operative even with the batteries disconnected.
Today, electronics are way more than they were in 1859. Almost every home in the developed world is connected to an electrical grid, billions of people rely on satellites for communication, and vital supply lines depend on electricity to operate. It’s been estimated that an Electro=Magnetic Pulse attack on the United States would utterly obliterate the American energy grid and starve 90 percent of the US population. The effects of an EMP blast are similar to those of a Coronal Mass Ejection, except that a powerful enough solar blast would disable the entire planet.
How many of us are truly ready for such an event to occur? How would society and culture be affected in the long term if the Earth was hit by an electromagnetic blast like the solar storm that narrowly missed us in 2012? If all of our electronic conveniences were destroyed in the blink of an eye, modern civilization would be exposed to be as flimsy as a tinfoil hat.
With proper warning, communications satellites can be turned off before a solar storm hits the Earth. But the first stage of a CME slams into the Earth within 8 minutes, leaving no time to prepare. In this initial stage, electromagnetic radiation would block satellite signals by altering the composition of the atmosphere. With communications knocked out, it would be impossible to prepare satellites for the next stage of a solar storm. Most communications satellites wouldn’t survive the bombardment of high-speed charged particles that follows immediately behind the initial flash of light from the sun.
Military forces around the world rely on satellites for communication. Millions of monetary transactions are processed by satellites every day. People in rural areas require satellites to connect to the world, and pilots use satellites to navigate airplanes. If the second stage of a CME were to knock out the global satellite communication system, it could take months, more likely; years to bring this network back online.
While the first two stages of a massive solar storm are bad enough, the third and final stage of a CME dwarfs its precursors in terms of sheer destructive potential. Long after the radiation and charged particles associated with a CME have already made landfall on the Earth’s electromagnetic shores, a multi billion ton cloud of gas and super hot plasma would still be rushing inexorably toward us at an average speed of 3.5 million of miles per hour, taking about 24 hours to arrive.
The atmosphere protects us from being directly affected by a CME. But all hell would break loose on the surface of the planet upon contact of this mass of expelled solar matter with the Earth’s magnetosphere. Power transformers would explode all over the world, instantly plunging millions into darkness. Power lines would sag and snap, and all electronic communications systems would fail. In the case of a powerful enough solar storm, every single electronic device in the world could be destroyed instantaneously.
The planet would be without electricity, and masses of people who have been taught for generations to rely on electronics and depend on the system would suddenly be deprived of all those benefits.
The average person has no idea how to fend for themselves in a real disaster situation. Even those with a temperament suitable for such a feat have rarely amassed the means to achieve off-the-grid survival for an extended period of time.
Not only would a massive CME take down millions of phone and cable lines that serve as carriers for Internet signals, but a powerful solar storm could also fry servers in critical data centers. If, for instance, Google or Wikipedia’s servers were destroyed, it wouldn’t be much consolation to reconnect to the Internet after our long time in the dark.
Though physical records still exist of the knowledge that mankind has amassed throughout the centuries, it wouldn’t take long for books to become fuel for fires instead of the mind if a power outage lasted more than a week. If a strong enough CME were to strike the Earth, the slate of human history could potentially be wiped clean.
If the systems of our world came crashing down, those who survived would be incapable of returning to the old world even if it were magically resurrected. They would be ready for something new.
March 17, 2022 at 9:14 pm#930526ProclaimerParticipantDefinitely food for thought keras.
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