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Tell us T8, would it make any sense for Jesus to be anointed twice?, at berth and then 30 years later? When he became lead by that spirit.
He was born the Christ as it is written even if the antichrist spirit opposes this. The preaching ministry of Jesus begins with his baptism in the Jordan and ends in Jerusalem, following the Last Supper.
After the Jordan he was transfigured and appeared with Moses and Elijah. A voice spoke, “this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased”. Neither his baptism or transfiguration made him the Christ because he was born the Christ and these things God deemed necessary for the Christ.
Saying Jesus was not the Christ is antichrist and by extention you are saying that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh because when he was born he was the Christ and that is when he came in the flesh and participated in our nature. Your doctrine teaches that Jesus is the flesh, but was not Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh.
Hi t8,
You do realise that you define ANTICHRISTS by your carnal understanding?
While your opposition to the work of the Spirit of Christ may signal your own situation is questionable.
How can you heart be right before the God of truth if you deny Jesus Christ coming in the flesh. Even a heavenly messenger said that in that moment he came in the flesh that “he is the messiah and Lord”.
Your heart must have strayed because you have departed what is clearly written. How can you say he was not the Christ and then expect me to believe you over the witness of a heavenly messenger and from the warnings on antichrist and their giveaway leaven.
Surely you need to repent?
Hi t8,
The the infant Jesus at the time of his birth was a master?
Or he was the infant of the prophecy where he was the one that would become a master?
Are we saved by the birth of the infant, or by the death of who the infant became, a perfected man?
The angel also could have called the infant Jesus a prophet, a healer, a miracle worker, as he was the infant who would one day fulfill prophecies and the promises of God.
Clearly the angel was not declaring the infant was a master or a savior, but that the infant Jesus was in fact the person spoken about by the prophets, who would fulfill their prophecies.
After the Spirit descends on Jesus, Jesus says directly that God has Christos (anointed) me. Jesus read the prophecy of Isaiah concerning him about this ANOINTING (Messiah) and what he would do as the anointed (Christos).
I call Jesus Christ as Jesus CALLED HIMSELF Christ, not by his birth t8, but according to Isaiah where a human servant was made Messiah and then was sent out at that time to speak the words of God, to heal, to set captives free, bring light to the Gentiles, etc..
t8 you are deny Jesus’s OWN declaration of WHEN he became CHRISTOS, and you deny that the angel was speaking of the infant referring to him as the person who would fulfill prophecy.
t8 please read and think carefully,
The angel said, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord”
Born that day is a Savior, and it is the Savior which is Christ the Lord.
Now we are not saved by the infant’s birth, and the infant as an infant didn’t obey God unto death.
Jesus from an infant grew in wisdom and the grace of God was upon him, then when he was about 30 years old he came to John to be baptized, and when John questioned this, Jesus said that he had to be baptized to fulfilling all righteousness, upon his baptism the Spirit descended upon him, then after Jesus quoted from the book of Isaiah saying that God had anointed him (made him Christ), and he was sending him out into the world. Isaiah also says that the servant would be anointed, made the Christ, but also that he would be called to righteousness. We are told that Jesus’s act of going to the cross obeying God made him perfect, that perfection caused him to be the lamb without spot or blemish sacrificed to SAVE us from our sins. THIS SAVIOR, that yes was once an infant marked out to fulfill this very prophecy, is the Anointed (Christos), the Master.
Remember t8 Isaiah also tells us specifically WHY Jesus would be born of a virgin, and that reason was for the house of David to know that God’s promise stands, a Son of David would be set up to rule Jerusalem forever. By a child born of a virgin the house of David would know that child was the child to fulfill prophecy, the child of David’s seed of whom God had promised He would be a Father to, and be sacrificed to be a savior for the world. Paul also tells us that a virgin’s mind is focused on serving God, but a married woman is focused on serving her husband.
Hi T8,
Certainly those of prophetic insight knew the appointed role of the infant Jesus.
lk 2.34
And Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary, his mother
’ Behold this child is appointed for the rise and fall of many in Israel, and for a sign
to be opposed – and a sword will pierce even your own soul-to the end that thoughts
from many hearts may be revealed’
Appointed.
Seek prophecy.1 Cor 14.39
When a human says “my soul”, according to biblical definition that should represent the unique flesh that God created for a human, as opposed to a frog, or a snake.
My soul suggests something I have. So what is the MY that says MY soul?
And it appears that souls inhabit a place under the throne of God and they can cry out and even be clothed.
And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge those who live on the earth and avenge our blood?” Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.…
So it seems that those who were killed / slain exist as souls who are aware and in a state of rest while waiting for the plan of God to complete. You would have to disagree with this as it opposes your view.
Nick, here is the rub.
When I repeat the angel’s message about Jesus being born as the messiah, you say I lack the spirit of prophecy. By extension of that, you have to level that accusation against the angel in whom I merely quote. I didn’t invent this Nick. And let’s be real, you force anyone to choose to believe the angel or you and of course you lose right?
Nick, not casting stones but hold firmly to the truth, encouraging by sound doctrine, & refuting those who oppose it.
You make accusations when people quote the message and accuse others of needing this spirit that you pertain to have. So ask yourself this, does the Spirit of God attack those who quote the message sent by God and delivered by a holy angel? No. And neither does the Spirit of god attack servants for no good reason.
Being born from above means you will not only love people and stop accusing everyone, but will also mean you will love the truth. Even rebuking someone is based on love. A person who doesn’t love will accuse and make people feel worthless, while a rebuke in love shows the truth, the consequences of ignoring it, and encourages people to the truth. Because love does things to help people for good. And if I fail to warn a person, then that can I can be held accountable.
The the infant Jesus at the time of his birth was a master?
He emptied himself and came in the flesh and came to serve. This does not deny who or what he is, but that he was willing to become lower for a time and be born into this world, share in flesh, to suffer alongside us, and to bring us with him into the presence of God. Now he is back in the glory he had with God before the cosmos. He is the reigning king who will return to complete the promise of all being under his feet at which time he can give it back to God so God can dwell in all.
Hi T8,
You do not believe the angels who celebrated the birth of Jesus were aware that prophecy was being fulfilled?
The promised Messiah had come.
Hi T8,
You speak of the Spirit of Christ.
Flesh contributes nothing.
Neither do men exist before their conception of their mother.
T8…..Jodi and Nick Are both right in this , it is beyond a dought your biggest hangup in advancing in the truth about Jesus. That is why you fight it so hard, because if you accept what we are telling you , it destorys your whole foundation about Jesus apart. But it is needful you do acept it for your sake not ours brother.
Do you actually truthfully believe Jesus would have to be anointed again if he were already anoint at berth? Come on even you should understand that, there would be no need for him to be anointed twice.
Let me show you how you are fulfilling the term “Antichrist,” which means “against the anointing” or anti-christo’s . You are denying Jesus’ anointing process as a “flesh only born” human being, who would have to be anointed with the Spirit of God inorder to become a Messiah of GOD, JUST LIKE MOSES WAS,
Now MOSES speaks clearly about Jesus, saying the Lord shall raise up , “FROM YOUR BREATHERN” a prophet like unto me. So we see clearly Moses understood Jesus would come from a tribe of Isreal, not from some other place as you assume he did, but a human being “From” A flesh tribe of ISREAL, SO the “ONLY WAY” Jesus as a “MAN”, from a tribe of Isreal (Judah) could be a Messiah, OR Anointed “man” of God, was to recieve that anointing ONCE. And the “man” Jesus did recieve that anointing at the JORDAN RIVER , which you deny. So from that perspective you are denying his “FLESH ANOINTING” And that qualifies you as a ANTICHRIST, ACCORDING TO The apostle John. Your are indeed against him being anointed at the Jordan river as well as him being a pure human being like MOSES and the rest of us.
What you are trying to do is have it both way, but you can’t T8, you either see Jesus aa a “flesh and blood” human being who “HAD TO BE” anointed in order to become a MESSIAH or not. Your chose to not believe it, so you deny him being an anointed, FLESH AND BLOOD human being, just like the rest of us. Your Jesus is not the true Jesus in scripture T8.
You have three wittness, who have witnessed to you T8, Nick, Jodi, and I , now it’s up to you brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)
Hi T8,
They have to twist Micah 5:2 which is the prophecy concerning the Angel’s proclamation…
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah,
yet out of thee (Bethlehem) shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
(Christ) whose goings fort have been from of old, from everlasting.” (Micah 5:2)and what, pray tell, what is their reason the Angels are worshiping him?
“And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world,
he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.” (Heb 1:6-7)They always ignore Scripture which PROVES their belief to be faulty!
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God bless
Ed JEdj…..READ THE WORDS YOU QUOTED, ”but thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet “OUT OF YOU” shall come forth that “IS TO BE” ruler in Israel. now tell us, where is the ruler going to come from, is it not a city of Judah? , but you preach Jesus comming from a preexisting place , from a completely different place, so now who is twisting scriptures?
WE SAY HE DID COME FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, YOU deny this, you say he preexisted as a centinel being and came from another place AND “MORPHED” INTO A HUMAN BODY, you preach him as a born christo’s, scripture say he was anointed at the Jordan River to become the Christo’s of God and then sent out into the world to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God, why would he have to be anointed twice. IF HE WERE BORN THE MESSIAH OR ANOINTED ONE, THEN WHY ANOINT HIM AGAIN? why not answer that question if you can?
Youŕ Jesus is not the Jesus of scripture, you ALSO deny his humanity, and his anointing process at the Jordan river. You preach a Jesus who is not a human being as we are, having coming into his existence exactly as we do.
EDJ…..Your have taken the broad way that lead to destruction, that many go in threat there of, but you need to seek the narrow gate, the straight way that leads to life.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
What is their reason the Angels are worshiping him?
“And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world,
he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.” (Heb 1:6-7)They ignore quite a lot and never teach such verses.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Hi T8,
Did you not realise Jesus Christ is greater than the angels?
Did you miss the PROPHETIC use of LET?
Nick. False accusations and misunderstandings means you lost. These will convince no one and this fruit only provides evidence for what we suspect. It is a good thing to test the spirits.
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