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- November 1, 2014 at 9:46 pm#781394Ed JParticipant
Hi Journey42,
I’m not interested in wasting a bunch of time telling somebody
that has already got their mind made up as to what is the truth.WE went through that once already in this thread:
Where I proved my case, and yet you have shut your ears from hearing the truth.
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God bless
Ed JNovember 1, 2014 at 10:57 pm#781402WakeupParticipantEdj.
Where is your knowledge of correctly dividing the scriptures?
The Word was made flesh, and he never walked on this earth without the Holy Spirit in Him.
The Holy Spirit is always in the Word, either flesh or spirit. Jesus was never without him.
His baptism of the Holy Spirit is to show/proof to John the Baptist; that he is the true messiah.
Therefore the dove was shown for the eyes to see.No one baptise by the Holy Spirit has ever seen a dove coming into anyone.
Shalom.
wakeup.November 1, 2014 at 11:25 pm#781403SpockParticipantA house so full of conflict and disagreement about things that even the apostles took on faith. This is why Christianity is dyeing.
November 2, 2014 at 12:15 am#781404Ed JParticipantEdj.
Where is your knowledge of correctly dividing the scriptures?
The Word was made flesh, and he never walked on this earth without the Holy Spirit in Him.
The Holy Spirit is always in the Word, either flesh or spirit. Jesus was never without him.
His baptism of the Holy Spirit is to show/proof to John the Baptist; that he is the true messiah.
Therefore the dove was shown for the eyes to see.No one baptise by the Holy Spirit has ever seen a dove coming into anyone.
Shalom.
wakeup.Re-read my post THREE posts up from this one of yours. Seems you still don’t get it.
November 2, 2014 at 12:31 am#781417WakeupParticipantSpock.
The churches are spiritually desolate and it will die, but the Word of God will
last forever.wakeup.
November 2, 2014 at 6:59 am#781764Ed JParticipant(1) Born with “the spirit of Christ:
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)(2) BAPTIZED with God’s “HolySpirit”
“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him,
and he saw the [HolySpirit] of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him” (Matt 3:16)Hi Wakeup,
I know you still don’t want to believe me, because you want
to hold onto a misinterpretation of John 1: 1. So here’s more:1) “of whom was born Jesus, who *IS CALLED* Christ.” (Matt 1:16) (<– at birth)
2) “and they *SHALL CALL* his name Emmanuel” (Matt 1:23) (<– occured at baptism)My point is:
Jesus was born with “the spirit of Christ”.
And WAS BAPTIZED with God’s “HolySpirit”,
this is when “The Word” became flesh!The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 2, 2014 at 8:20 am#781765WakeupParticipantEdj.
You don’t understand; Every person born has his own spirit.
It is called the spirit of the flesh. Jesus was also born as a person, with the spirit of the flesh like any person.
But he only lived by the spirit of His God. He did not follow His spirit of the flesh , for he had no desires of the flesh.
He only lived to serve His God. Non of us has been able to do this; maybe John the Baptist. Can not be sure.
But I am sure John did not come from heaven.
wakeup.
November 2, 2014 at 11:43 am#781802Ed JParticipantHi Wakeup,
It’s funny how you will even deny Scripture in order to hold onto a misinterpretation of John 1:1.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 2, 2014 at 7:32 pm#781824Ed JParticipant1) “of whom was born Jesus, who *IS CALLED* Christ.” (Matt 1:16) (<– at birth)
2) “and they *SHALL CALL* his name Emmanuel” (Matt 1:23) (<– occured at baptism)The Point is: Jesus was not called “Emmanuel” until
he was baptized with God’s HoySpirit a Jordan.
Don’t let religion cloud your judgment.November 2, 2014 at 8:03 pm#781825carmelParticipantI can’t find in the scriptures where Lucifer was the first angel ever created, We don’t know if he was the first? Nothing concrete to back that. We can only guess.
Journey42,
WITH EVERY RESPECT!
IF YOU CANNOT FIND SOMETHING IN SCRIPTURES, IT DOESN’T ACTUALLY ASSERT THAT WITHIN SCRIPTURES THERE ISN’T WHAT YOU LOOKED FOR!
LUCIFER REBELLED!
LUCIFER CONVINCED ONE THIRD OF HEAVENLY HOSTS TO JOIN HIM! NOT FOOLS, BUT UNFATHOMABLY WISE SPIRITUAL CREATURES
WHICH EITHER THEY HAD NO OTHER OPTION, OR IT WAS LOGICALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT LUCIFER WAS IN A PARTICULAR WAY JUSTIFIED IN PRESENTING HIS SELF LOVE ARGUMENTS!
SOMETHING THAT EVEN JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF IN GOD’S GLORY,IN THE MOMENT WHICH SUPPOSED TO BE HIS DEATH,
WENT IN HIS SOUL IN HELL, THE HOLY SPIRIT, DIDN’T SUCCEED, TO REDEEMED THEM, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE PREACHED THE GOSPEL FOR THEM! SO THEY NEVER BELIEVED THAT JESUS WAS THE MESSIAH!
SO NOW ANSWER,AND THROUGH YOUR OWN ANSWER YOU YOURSELF SHOULD BE AWARE THAT:
LUCIFER WAS THE FIRST EVER CREATURE TO BE CREATED!
SO, WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL POINT WHICH LUCIFER PRESENTED TO THE ANGELS IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME ?
THIS IS SCRIPTURALLY, ALTHOUGH NOT EVIDENTLY CLEAR THAT IT IS DIRECTED TO HIM!
LIKE MOST OF TRUTHS IS HIDDEN IN SCRIPTURES
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
November 2, 2014 at 9:21 pm#781885NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Was Obama a president when he was born?
Neither did Jesus become the anointed one till he was anointed
November 2, 2014 at 9:44 pm#781886WakeupParticipantThe question is still not answered.
If the Word of God was created as a creature in the beginning; then what is His name?
If He is an offspring of God; then what is that offspring’s name?
The Son of God’s name is Jesus. God’s name is Jehovah.
There is no need to beat about the bush; I just want an answer.
Am I trying to get blood of a stone?wakeup.
November 2, 2014 at 9:49 pm#781887Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Were the angels to wait until Jesus baptism at Jordan? According to you they were, right?
“And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.” (Heb 1:6)Hey how did this verse slip into the bible?
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)This one needs to go too…
“he demanded of them where Christ should be born” (Matt 2:4)This one needs to go too…
“And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ” (Matt 1:16)The bible says three witnesses establish the matter, BUT NOT FOR YOU, instead those verses need to be deleted, right?
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 2, 2014 at 9:52 pm#781888WakeupParticipantGene.
God does the drawing; Jesus does the feeding.
Whom God has drawn nothing can take them away.Gene. The Lamb of God is not a name; the Word of God is not a name.
So what is His name?
When the Word of God was made a man he had a name.
What was His name before he was made flesh?wakeup.
November 2, 2014 at 9:58 pm#781889Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
You can believe Jesus’ spirit fathered himself if you want, but that is not what Scripture teaches.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 2, 2014 at 10:02 pm#781891Ed JParticipantThe bible instead teaches that God’s Holy Spirit fathered “the spirit of Christ”.
November 3, 2014 at 2:09 am#781929SpockParticipantIn my religion the answer is Michael, it was known in ancient times on earth long before the fall, before Adam and Eve came to earth. It was revealed once again in the Urantia revelation along with a tremendous amount of new information about God and his many subordinate Sons and Daughters.
November 3, 2014 at 2:12 am#781930SpockParticipantWas Gabriel Fathered the day he spoke to Mary or did he come down from heaven to tell of the coming of the Son?
Did Jesus return to just being a Word plan in God when he went back to heaven?
Is it possible that there are more facts outside the Bible but you have made the Bible an idol?
November 3, 2014 at 5:16 am#781935journey42ParticipantHi Spock
Are you Colter?
We here don’t believe in a book that comes from aliens.
November 3, 2014 at 5:29 am#781936journey42ParticipantWas Gabriel Fathered the day he spoke to Mary or did he come down from heaven to tell of the coming of the Son?
Did Jesus return to just being a Word plan in God when he went back to heaven?
Is it possible that there are more facts outside the Bible but you have made the Bible an idol?
Gabriel was never “fathered” the same way Jesus Christ was. Gabriel was “created” making him a made son.
Jesus has his Father’s genes.
Jesus did not return to being “a Word Plan” but returned to being “The Word of God”. God’s image, that he speaks through.All the facts come from within the bible, as this is our source.
The enemy came in a long time ago to sow bad seeds into the field. Since then these seeds have grown into tares, and they try to choke the Word of God. The good seed remains, and both will grow together, although the good seed that sprouted is hidden in the weeds. The tares have taken over.
The tares will be cut down at the harvest.The world is not getting any better, it is getting worse.
The light did not suddenly shine in the last 10-60 years or so, but over 2000 years ago.
Lucifer likes to keep some of us there in prison pretending to give light, but keeps us in darkness.
He was a liar from the beginning, and his lies are getting worse. Don’t trust him Spock, he doesn’t care for your soul. - AuthorPosts
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