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The creator of our creator Son, aka Jesus Christ, is the Universal Father. The Son was with the Father in the beginning (a theoretical beginning) they are eternal beings.
GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS NOT DIRECTLY HIMSELF, BUT THROUGH LUCIFER!
LUCIFER WAS THE FIRST EVER GOD’S CARRIER!
GOD THROUGH HIM STARTED TO BE IN MOTION, SINCE HIS PRESENCE COVERED THE ENTIRE UNIVERSES, OMNIPRESENCE!
THROUGH HIM HE CREATED THE HEAVENS, AND THE FIRST EVER EARTH!
EARTH WAS HIS ACTUAL PLANET AND HE ABIDED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN! THE GARDEN OF GOD!
Carmel
I thought you were joking, but you are serious!
God created everything through his Word. The Word of God, who later became flesh as soon as he was planted inside Mary.
Lucifer is not the Word of God, but the opposite, only Jesus holds that name.
Everything has been turned upside down.That baby inside of Mary was not “a spirit” but a real baby made of flesh which grew in the womb until he was born. Just like you did.
Hi Journey42,
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us” (John 1:14) The answer comes 9 verses down…
“And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt
see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the HolySpirit. ” (John 1:32-33)Ed,
it skips to John giving the testimony that he witnessed that same “Word” which “became flesh”, the Lord Jesus Christ, and it was verified to John by the spirit descending upon Jesus, that he was “the one” sent, whom John was chosen to prepare the way for. John finally gets to meet the one he has been preaching about that day at the Jordon and baptises Christ.
Do you really think Christ needed baptising? truly? He is as holy as one can be, because he is The Word of God from the beginning. He did that for our benefit. To be an example.Do you see?
Wakeup,
When HE spoke to Moses; HE introduced HIM self as I AM THAT I AM.(not a name).
Since when Moses in these last days as that is when Scripture states the Son spoke to men.
God created everything through his Word.
journey42,
“THE WORD” IS JUST A TITLE FOR A PARTICULAR TRIUNE SPIRIT ESTABLISHED BY GOD,AND FOR GOD HIMSELF IN ORDER TO CREATE ALL,FROM WITHIN “THE WORD”, IN A WAY TO BE WITHIN ALL, AND IT REMAINS WITHIN ALL WHATEVER IS CREATED AS THEIR ONLY LIFE SOURCE!
NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXISTS WITHOUT “THE WORD”
IT IS CALLED “THE WORD” DUE TO THE FACT THAT GOD SPEAKS FROM WITHIN IT, TO ALL INTELLIGENCE CREATURES, INCLUDING US,BUT SINCE WE ARE SINFUL CREATURES WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HEAR GOD SPEAKING CLEAR ENOUGH, ALTHOUGH ALL OF US COULD QUITE ACHIEVE THIS IF WE ABANDON THE WORLD, DIE EVERY DAY AND LIVE IN CHRIST!
NOW
WHO WAS THE FIRST EVER ARCHANGEL THAT GOD CREATED THROUGH “THE WORD” IN “THE WORD” AND FOR “THE WORD”?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Do you really think Christ needed baptising?
Hi Journey42,
Jesus’ words: “Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness.” (Matt 3:15)
Paul’s words: “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised
up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.” (Romans 8:11)Q. Is our resurrection needed?
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNOW
WHO WAS THE FIRST EVER ARCHANGEL THAT GOD CREATED THROUGH “THE WORD” IN “THE WORD” AND FOR “THE WORD”?
Carmel
I can’t find in the scriptures where Lucifer was the first angel ever created, We don’t know if he was the first? Nothing concrete to back that. We can only guess.
He was the annointed “cherub”,yes, but he’s not the only cherub. God’s chariot is described as having four cherubs with four faces (ezekiel ch10)
The first face is the face of a cherub, the second face, the face of a man, the third face, the face of a lion, and the fourth face, a face of an eagle. This would be what Lucifer looks like. Man does not resemble that image.Their wings covered the chariot, which is why they are covering angels. Lucifer was one of them. God did not show Lucifer everything.
Your “in the word” seems to be added to scripture.
everything was created by the Word, and for the Word.Hi Journey42,
Jesus’ words: “Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness.” (Matt 3:15)
Paul’s words: “But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised
up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.” (Romans 8:11)Q. Is our resurrection needed?
Ed,
Jesus had the holy spirit in him from conception. He was conceived by the holy spirit. He was sent to do a job. Baptism is a symbol of repentance for the remission of sins. What did Jesus need to repent of? He was perfect in spirit the whole way, teaching even at 12 years old.
We are baptised in his name, ….he is the door.
Obviously he did it for an example, so that we can acknowledge him.
Of course our resurrection is needed. when a saint dies, he has to be brought back to life in order to receive his reward. Without the holy spirit, this is not possible. Jesus had the holy spirit in him, because the holy spirit is in the Word, and he was that Word who became flesh.Your “in the word” seems to be added to scripture.
everything was created by the Word, and for the Word.
Journey42,
READE:
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and in him. 17And he is before all, and by him all things consist. 18And he is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he may hold the primacy: 19Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fullness should dwell; 20And through himto reconcile all things unto himself, making peace through the blood of his cross, both as to the things that are on earth, and the things that are in heaven.
Do you really think Christ needed baptising? truly?
Journey42,
AND HOW!
JESUS,SINCE CONCEPTION,HAD WITHIN HIM SATAN’S SPIRIT, LIKE ALL HUMANS, SINCE HE WAS IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN!
NEVERTHELESS HE STILL WAS IMMACULATE!
BUT THE FACT THAT HE HAD TO BE BAPTISED, DUE TO THE FACT THAT SATAN’S SPIRIT HAD TO BE REMOVED BY FORCE, AND WAS LOCKED IN HELL TILL JESUS ACCOMPLISHED HIS WORK! THEN HE AGAIN WAS ALLOWED BY JESUS TO ENTER JUDAH IN THE LAST SUPPER WHEN JESUS DIPPED THE BREAD AND SENT JUDAH TO DO HIS WORK!
REFLECT!
THIS WORLD IS BOTH GOOD AND EVIL!
SO ABSOLUTE NOTHING COULD BE ONLY GOOD, OR ONLY EVIL,IT MUST BE BOTH!
DEATH SEPARATES THEM!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Journey42,
AND HOW!
JESUS,SINCE CONCEPTION,HAD WITHIN HIM SATAN’S SPIRIT, LIKE ALL HUMANS, SINCE HE WAS IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN!
NEVERTHELESS HE STILL WAS IMMACULATE!
Carmel
You are committing blasphemy and don’t even know it.
Jesus never had Satan’s spirit in him. He was perfect even in the flesh. No sin was ever found in him. We have a perfect unblemished saviour.BUT THE FACT THAT HE HAD TO BE BAPTISED, DUE TO THE FACT THAT SATAN’S SPIRIT HAD TO BE REMOVED BY FORCE, AND WAS LOCKED IN HELL TILL JESUS ACCOMPLISHED HIS WORK! THEN HE AGAIN WAS ALLOWED BY JESUS TO ENTER JUDAH IN THE LAST SUPPER WHEN JESUS DIPPED THE BREAD AND SENT JUDAH TO DO HIS WORK!
Carmel, what are you reading?
THIS WORLD IS BOTH GOOD AND EVIL!
SO ABSOLUTE NOTHING COULD BE ONLY GOOD, OR ONLY EVIL,IT MUST BE BOTH!
DEATH SEPARATES THEM!
Sounds like you are believing in the ying yang.
Ed,
Jesus had the holy spirit in him from conception.Hi Journey42,
“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him,
and he saw the [HolySpirit] of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him” (Matt 3:16)___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODEd,
Jesus had the holy spirit in him from conception.Hi Journey42,
”For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODJesus never had Satan’s spirit in him.
Hi Journey42,
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODEd,
Jesus had the holy spirit in him from conception.Hi Journey42,
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)
Hi Ed
Whats your point?
Jesus never had Satan’s spirit in him.
Hi Journey42,
(Link to thread)
Ed
What’s your point again? Are you agreeing with Carmel that Jesus had Satan’s spirit in him?
Don’t send me on a goose chase please, get to the point and print it here.Ed,
Jesus had the holy spirit in him from conception.Whats your point?
Hi Journey42,
My point is:
Jesus was born with “the spirit of Christ”
and WAS BAPTIZED with God’s “HolySpirit”.Born with “the spirit of Christ:
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)BAPTIZED with God’s “HolySpirit”
“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him,
and he saw the [HolySpirit] of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him” (Matt 3:16)Seems you got your incorrect understanding of John 1:1 zeal in the way
of understanding John’s message, the one recorded in Matthew 3:16.
That is my point! I hope I have made myself clear for you now.___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GOD
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