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- June 11, 2010 at 2:58 pm#195170Ed JParticipant
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 11 2010,21:13) Ed J, 2) you need to break this down in english, because i have no idea what your saying. I understand you understand what your stating, but i clearly dont. Break it down. detail it for me, as if i knew nothing.
3) What is the Trinity to you? explain Trinity to me.
4) so what are you saying? what is the beast,p.s. You answer some questions, others are to confusing. Ill let you know when i see something i dont understand.
Hi SF,In Rev.4:7 they are called Four Beasts as this is another “Shadow Picture” of Spirituality.
Rev.4:7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the
third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.A better representation is to understand the Spirituality of God in what I call the “God Box Graph”=117…
This Box Graph could be used to Physically see something, that I can explain. “God The Father”=117 is it's entirety…“YHVH is GOD”=117
“Block Geometry”=151 and “The God Numbers”=151
help to illustrate the “HolyCity”=117 of GOD!YHVH GOD is One=151
The LORD JEHOVAH=151
LORD of Hosts=151
Holy Spirit=151
Jesus Christ=151
Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD,
and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me,
and understand that I he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 11, 2010 at 2:59 pm#195171Ed JParticipantHi Everybody,
Crossing the bridge between two views…“Trinitarian” and “non-Trinitarian”.
This can “only” be done with God(HolySpirit) resident on the inside of the believer.Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable(unchangeable) things, in which it is impossible for God to lie!,
we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
2Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself!Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be FIVE (shown below) in one house (Eph.2:20-22) divided,
three(Trinitarians) against two(non-Trinitarians), and two(non-Trinitarians) against three(Trinitarians).2) The non-Trinitarians view GOD this way….
YHVH GOD is One=151………GOD! (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)LORD of Hosts=151………….including Jesus and the rest of us!
The AKJV Bible uses this phrase repeatedly!3) And the Trinitarians view GOD this way…
The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2, 26:4)
Jesus Christ=151
HolySpirit=151
God existing as “The Trinity” above and out of reach.
Proof of this Fivefold House of God is illustrated using Hebrew, Greek, and the AKJV Bible…The Hebrew word [אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm(Genesis 1:1) carries the meanings of both “God in the plural” and “The Mighty God”.
This can be better illustrated using both the English AKJV Bible’s rendering of JEHOVAH and the Greek’s word for “GOD”.There are five words for “God” the Greek (all are pronounced Thēôs); they are…
Four (4) of these are “plural” forms of the word; only one (1) is used in “singular” form.1) θεος
2) θεου
3) θεω
4) θεον5) θεε
The AKJV Bible has uses the name JEHOVAH four (4) times and JAH (1) once!
JEHOVAH is also used in three (3) phrases (illustrating a trinity)1) JEHOVAH (Exodus 6:3)………..(Exodus 17:15)
2) JEHOVAH (Psalm 83:18)……….(Gen.22:14)
3) JEHOVAH (Isaiah 12:2)………..(Judges 6:24)
4) JEHOVAH (Isaiah 26:4)………..….LORD of Hosts5) JAH (Psalm 68:4)……………………used only “once”!
“HolyCity“
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
God The Father=117 (Representing God's Name and title GOD: יהוה האלהים)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's English Name: “Joshua”)
YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)
HolySpirit=151 (“The word”: structure of “GOD” indwelling in us believers!)“HolyCityBibleCode” documents how “The God Numbers”=151 integrate with the AKJV Bible.
LOOK AT THE UNITY!
GOD’s NAME (יהוה) is written EXACTLY 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how
the Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
bears a resemblance to the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.YHVH GOD is ONE=151 (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)
1) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2 / Isaiah 26:4) (Old “Testament”=117)
2) LORD of Hosts=151…(AKJV Bible)…His Hosts=117: Jesus and ALL of His brethren! (Rev.11:15)
3) Holy Spirit=151 (“The word” structure of “GOD”: Old and New “Testament”=117)
4) Jesus Christ=151 (The “Testator”=151) (Hebrews 9:16-17) (New “Testament”=117)The wall(Eph.2:14), Jesus died to abolish, is illustrate as a dichotomy: [6823] and [2368].
These points are all explained in great detail in “HolyCityBibleCode”, the free e-book.God bless
Ed J (AKJV 22:34 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 11, 2010 at 9:05 pm#195213NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
The trinity god is not of the bible so their house is not of our God's building.
Now the Lord is the Spirit and the Spirit is of God.it is unwise to accrete the buildings of men onto that of God.
June 13, 2010 at 10:59 am#195623Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2010,08:05) Hi ED,
The trinity god is not of the bible so their house is not of our God's building.
Now the Lord is the Spirit and the Spirit is of God.it is unwise to accrete the buildings of men onto that of God.
Hi Nick,Did I not say to view God in this manner Put's God out of reach?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 13, 2010 at 3:28 pm#195661GeneBalthropParticipantED J………..Get rid of the numbers , you can do a far better job without them brother! IMO
peace and love………………..gene
June 13, 2010 at 5:48 pm#195683Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2010,02:28) ED J………..Get rid of the numbers , you can do a far better job without them brother! IMO peace and love………………..gene
Hi Gene,You mean like all the convincing you have done (with others) since you have been here?
Titus -:- Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by
sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. (Rom. –:- / Luke –:–)Rom.–:- Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity;
he that ruleth (Here), with diligence; he that showeth mercy, with cheerfulness. (Ps.—:-)Luke –:– For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your
adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.Ed J
PS> Much better; huh?June 13, 2010 at 7:39 pm#195712NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
God is within reach of all.[acts 17]
But building on a true foundation is vital.
Trinity is not spoken by the mouth of GodNot on the false ideas of men but you must be reborn from above
June 14, 2010 at 2:18 pm#195903Ed JParticipantBump for Gene
June 14, 2010 at 7:25 pm#195935NickHassanParticipantHi,
He makes His angels spirits.June 15, 2010 at 6:42 pm#196137Ed JParticipantBump for SF.
June 15, 2010 at 10:52 pm#197229kerwinParticipantI was reading about Hebrew beliefs last night and came across mention of the Seven Eyes of God which I understand are Arch Angels.
Zachariah 4:10 is the scripture they use as support.
I have also heard God seven perspectives and seven attributes of the heart.
I have only looked into it a little.
June 16, 2010 at 4:17 am#197298Ed JParticipantQuote (kerwin @ June 16 2010,09:52) I was reading about Hebrew beliefs last night and came across mention of the Seven Eyes of God which I understand are Arch Angels. Zachariah 4:10 is the scripture they use as support.
I have also heard God seven perspectives and seven attributes of the heart.
I have only looked into it a little.
Hi Kerwin,I see no mention of angels here?
Zech.4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they
are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 16, 2010 at 4:24 am#197300GeneBalthropParticipantKerwin………Indeed the seven Spirits of GOD are His eyes that give him His omnipresence in all creation. These are specific Spirits or (INTELLECTS) which guide the mind of GOD himself. Jesus will if not already has all seven of these Spirit eyes coupled wit (HORNS)or POWERS and He will rule earth with them some along with the saints. They are not angles but Spirits as revelations say they are.
peace and love………………….gene
June 16, 2010 at 4:31 am#197303Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,04:48) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2010,02:28) ED J………..Get rid of the numbers , you can do a far better job without them brother! IMO peace and love………………..gene
Hi Gene,You mean like all the convincing you have done (with others) since you have been here?
Titus -:- Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by
sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. (Rom. –:- / Luke –:–)Rom.–:- Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity;
he that ruleth (Here), with diligence; he that showeth mercy, with cheerfulness. (Ps.—:-)Luke –:– For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your
adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.Ed J
PS> Much better; huh?
bumb for GeneJune 16, 2010 at 4:31 am#197304kerwinParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,10:17) Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2010,09:52) I was reading about Hebrew beliefs last night and came across mention of the Seven Eyes of God which I understand are Arch Angels. Zachariah 4:10 is the scripture they use as support.
I have also heard God seven perspectives and seven attributes of the heart.
I have only looked into it a little.
Hi Kerwin,I see no mention of angels here?
Zech.4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they
are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
The angels would be those seven which run to and fro through the whole earth.If you read Job then you will find that Satan and the son of God were going to and fro through the whole earth.
June 16, 2010 at 4:35 am#197306Ed JParticipantQuote (kerwin @ June 16 2010,15:31) Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,10:17) Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2010,09:52) I was reading about Hebrew beliefs last night and came across mention of the Seven Eyes of God which I understand are Arch Angels. Zachariah 4:10 is the scripture they use as support.
I have also heard God seven perspectives and seven attributes of the heart.
I have only looked into it a little.
Hi Kerwin,I see no mention of angels here?
Zech.4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they
are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
The angels would be those seven which run to and fro through the whole earth.If you read Job then you will find that Satan and the son of God were going to and fro through the whole earth.
HI Kerwin,2Chron.16:9: For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth,
to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him…How does this verse square with what you present?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 16, 2010 at 5:01 am#197313NickHassanParticipantHi ED.
God uses vessels.June 16, 2010 at 5:09 am#197315kerwinParticipantEd,
I will say that Nick hit this one on the head.
June 16, 2010 at 5:11 am#197317Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 16 2010,16:01) Hi ED.
God uses vessels.
Hi Nick,I know…
1Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves,
but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto
you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the HolySpirit
sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
Heb.11:40 God having provided some better thing for
us, that they without us should not be made perfect.Zech.3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua;
upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave
the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I
will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Psalm 118:24 This is the day which the LORD
hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 16, 2010 at 5:22 am#197318GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,15:31) Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2010,04:48) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2010,02:28) ED J………..Get rid of the numbers , you can do a far better job without them brother! IMO peace and love………………..gene
Hi Gene,You mean like all the convincing you have done (with others) since you have been here?
Titus -:- Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by
sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. (Rom. –:- / Luke –:–)Rom.–:- Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity;
he that ruleth (Here), with diligence; he that showeth mercy, with cheerfulness. (Ps.—:-)Luke –:– For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your
adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.Ed J
PS> Much better; huh?
bumb for Gene
ED J ……..anyone can quote scripture to twist or alter what is being discussed, this is he oldest game in history. If you can't make sense of something just alter the focus as i see you have shown here your are a master at. But the bottom line is no one here understand your numbers system here, I nor anyone as far as i can tell. Secondly many here have agreed with thing i have Posted not all but many have and at times and many have disagreed with me , But i don not try to run a number system to try to find the truth of GOD, and i see no where in History that has been done either or where we are told to do that.
I am certain if God has given you a mouth of wisdom it/s not going to be a number game. IMOpeace and love…………….gene
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