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Nick You are very narrow minded, God is not. He is Love and wants that no one shall perish, that is why He send His Son into the world not to condemn the World, but that through Him all might be saveth. All in Adam will die and all in Christ will be made alive. All will understand the truth when all truths will be taught be our King of King and Lord of Lord. Satan will be loosed just one more time and will test all and a multitude will go with Him and at the end will get the lake of fire.
Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,
Yes.
That is before the second resurrection.
There is no second chance teaching from the Son of God towards rebels shown in the Millenium.Hi,
There is no suggestion that anyone but sinners will be found as goats for the fire.
Infants cannot sin.Hi TJ,
You said in another thread“Greetings Nick…..Iam not sure if you agree with what I have come to believe….Yes! “It is appointed unto man to die and then the judgement”…..In keeping with what most christians have come to believe,and that is that, God is a loving mercifull God and the essense of fairness and justice….If we can agree on this precept,than the judgement you speak of will indeed come,however,after everyone has the opportunity to see God as he truely is,and inspite of that, some will make a conscious decision to reject Gods government and as a consequence will cease to exist or be consumed by fire as though they were cremated…(not to suffer torment for ever but cease to exist forever)This seems to me to be the actions of a loving and just God….Torment will be reserved for certain rebelious spirit beings because they cannot be destroyed… “
But is it written?
Hi TJ,
Mt5
8Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.But you say all men will see God?
This human construct based on our view of the loving nature of God cannot overrule what he said He will do. Let scripture speak.
Nick,
are you pure in heart?
I know I am not pure, I am a sinner however not my will be done but Gods ………
Hi MK,
Pure is as washed in the eyes of God.
The blood of Jesus in response to the repentant plea of water baptism cleanses us.[1Peter3]Nick………..your still trying to make it a work of the (FLESH), reread your last sentence and think about it.
love to you and yours……………..gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2008,05:01) GB,
If those who are forgiven do not forgive they will lose what they have.
But not all are forgiven are they as not all come to Jesus?
We seek forgiveness by repentance and rebirth.
Acts 2.37-38
Nick……….reread your last sentence Here, can't you see your making salvation a matter of the (FLESH), and leaving GOD completely out of the Picture.think about it brother……………….love………..gene
Quote (Tiffany @ Nov. 26 2008,05:34) Nick You are very narrow minded, God is not. He is Love and wants that no one shall perish, that is why He send His Son into the world not to condemn the World, but that through Him all might be saveth. All in Adam will die and all in Christ will be made alive. All will understand the truth when all truths will be taught be our King of King and Lord of Lord. Satan will be loosed just one more time and will test all and a multitude will go with Him and at the end will get the lake of fire.
Peace and Love Irene
Hi Irene,
I am happy to accept your abuse for remaining within what is taught by God.
Speculations are uselessness.Hi,
Jesus returns like a thief in the night and closes the door to salvation in him. The sons of the resurrection are now raised and the first resurrection opportunity is gone as Jesus begins to rule and reign with them on earth. One of his first actions is to have brought before him those enemies who are alive and have refused his kingship and they will be destroyed in his presence. His rule now is physical over the nations and he institutes again the feasts and all who do not come to Jerusalem for them will not receive rain.Nick….yes CARNAL way for CARNAL MINDS, If we are found worthy to reign with Jesus we will be reigning over (CARNAL) Minds, but in the end it all fails, Just to prove a point (unless God is in you and guiding you you can never continue to do right) For a thousand year (evil influencing in the earth is removed) and only (good influencing remains) JESUS AND THE SAINTS, But look what happens after only good influencing for a thousand years, They all follow the evil influence as soon as it is released again on the earth. LESSON, unless GOD be (IN) you, and guiding you , you can never maintain doing GOOD.
GOD the FATHER must Himself Keep YOU by cohabiting with you. WE are temples and He must take residence in Us so we can maintain doing GOOD and REJECTING EVIL, Because Both GOOD and EVIL will always exist. Because all life consisted of both. If you will notice the Saints did not fail it was the Carnal people in the world who failed, why, because GOD is IN Jesus and the Saints and continued to Keep them from falling.
love and peace to you and yours……………………gene
To All……..Psa 127:1…> A Song of degrees for Solomon. Except the LORD build the house, they labor in vain that build it; except the LORD keep the city, the watchman wakes in vain.
LOVE AND PEACE TO YOU ALL…………………gene
Gb,
Yes.Satan is the source of terrible mischief.
Resist him and he will flee from you.
You will crush him under your feetQuote (Tiffany @ Nov. 26 2008,05:34) Nick You are very narrow minded, God is not. He is Love and wants that no one shall perish, that is why He send His Son into the world not to condemn the World, but that through Him all might be saveth. All in Adam will die and all in Christ will be made alive. All will understand the truth when all truths will be taught be our King of King and Lord of Lord. Satan will be loosed just one more time and will test all and a multitude will go with Him and at the end will get the lake of fire.
Peace and Love Irene
Irene,Just noticed that you have changed the order of words in the bolded part.
Quote 1Cr 15:22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. If you transfer the all to before “in christ” you can then say that only those in christ – will be made alive.
In adam = all die
in Christ = all will be made aliveyou have changed it to
In adam = all die
all in Christ = will be made alive (and the rest will be not reconciled to God)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,09:56) Hi mk,
After Christ comes we will not be able to be reconciled with God by baptism into his body.
What of bedside conversions?Really, Nick……narrow, narrow, narrow thinking!
Thank God he allows for more ways to find Him than YOU do!
Perhaps you are leaning too heavily on certain scriptures that were not inspired from God at all? Could it be? It sure could.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2008,09:56) Hi mk,
After Christ comes we will not be able to be reconciled with God by baptism into his body.
“the end” is the process whereby all will be made subject to Christ.subject= being obedient
Hi not3,
There is ever the mercy of God.
But the door is closed to life in Jesus as the first resurrection is past.
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