Satan was NOT the God of this age

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,13:01)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,21:26) That's right Gene, there's only one “GOD”; all others are false gods. So God's children, such as Jesus, are “false gods”? Hmmm…………..

Mike……The word God is not Just a Mighty one as you presume I have explained this many time here, Let me do it once more.

The word God or Elohim first appeared as a pictorial word form it was drawn as a OX head Showing Strength and a Staff was also drawn next to it. This meant what they trusted in like a staff is for. So the complete Word meaning God was a “POWER” they “TRUSTED” “IN”  It was the Power they “TRUSTED” in, not just a Power.

From that we can see it just was not a Power, but a Power they “TRUSTED” In. Now go to Gods Commandments and what does it say.  “You shall have no other God beside Me”.  

You rendition puts forth that  All Powers equals a God but a “LITTLE” god like Jesus is to you,  even an ant could be said to be a God , But i for one will not put my trust in any other God except the One and Only True God and he is not a “little “God, nor is He a Son of Man either or an Ant.

You are welcome to have and make all the So-called Gods you want, But i will believe Paul and Jesus, unto us there is ONLY “ONE” “TRUE” GOD and all the rest are not “TRUE” but False Gods no matter how big or little they are.

Scripture say God is not a Man, that he should repent or a “SON OF MAN” that he should lie. Tell us Mike was Jesus a Man and a Son of Man, Did Jesus have a God was it himself? Mike as i have said before you People only assert Jesus as a Little God So you can force the text of John 1:1 to mean Jesus waa the Word , Which is nothing but a “LIE” the Biggest LIE ever told in Christanity. A LIE Which Jesus himself will destory or abolish at his Comming (2 Ths 2)>  

The very first thing He will do when he returns is Abolish this LIE told about HIM by nealry all Christainity, Which turns the “IMAGE” OD HIM into a IMAGE OF A MAN OF SIN. All trinitarians and Prexistences are all partakers of this same LIE and will Pay For it also unless they repent. IMO

peace and love to you and yours………………..gene

[Wakeup]

Gene B.

Philippians 2:10 That at THE NAME OF JESUS every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

This only means worship.You have the Father,you have the Son,you have the Son,you have the Father.

So you better start worshipping Jesus,for no man can come to the father BUT BY THE SON.

You can not go through the back door,only thieves do that.

THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH AND DWELLETH AMONGST US. JESUS DWELLETH AMONGS MEN PREACHING THE KINGDOM OF GOD.HE WAS THE WORD MADE FLESH,AND THE WORD IS GODS.

HE IS LORD,WE ALL MUST GO THROUGH HIM,FOR HE IS THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN.
WE CAN NOT DISMISS HIM.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

The scripture says that satan is the god of this world.
Not the God of them that dwelleth in Zion,but the god of this babylon,this world.

He is ruling over them that are of babylon.
He is not ruling over them that are spiritually in Zion.

Jesus will come and destroy satans kingdom and set up his kingdom.

wakeup.

[GeneBalthrop]

Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”.

peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup

[Wakeup]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45)

Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup

Gene B.

There is no such as little God.
There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand.
He is appointed by the big God to do the work.
All must go through him. all must worship him.
This is the command from the big God.

If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,03:45)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45) Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup Gene B. There is no such as little God. There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand. He is appointed by the big God to do the work. All must go through him. all must worship him. This is the command from the big God. If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God. wakeup.

wup

well then Jesus must be a god to who ever he preach right ,just like Moses

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,07:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,03:45) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45) Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup Gene B. There is no such as little God. There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand. He is appointed by the big God to do the work. All must go through him. all must worship him. This is the command from the big God. If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God. wakeup. wup well then Jesus must be a god to who ever he preach right ,just like Moses

Pierre

Jesus always preached his Father, not himself.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 04 2013,04:25)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,07:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,03:45) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45) Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup Gene B. There is no such as little God. There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand. He is appointed by the big God to do the work. All must go through him. all must worship him. This is the command from the big God. If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God. wakeup. wup well then Jesus must be a god to who ever he preach right ,just like Moses Pierre Jesus always preached his Father, not himself.

j42

and so he his a god like Moses ,in other words the spokesman of God his father

[terraricca]

no one ever said that Christ his a god over or equal to his father, only triny's says that

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,07:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,03:45) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45) Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup Gene B. There is no such as little God. There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand. He is appointed by the big God to do the work. All must go through him. all must worship him. This is the command from the big God. If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God. wakeup. wup well then Jesus must be a god to who ever he preach right ,just like Moses

Terra.

Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, ****Thy throne, O GOD****, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

If his Father calls him God,then we should also worship him as God. BUT HE IS STILL NOT THE FATHER,BUT THE FATHERS RIGHT HAND.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2013,07:36)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,07:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,03:45) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45) Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup Gene B. There is no such as little God. There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand. He is appointed by the big God to do the work. All must go through him. all must worship him. This is the command from the big God. If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God. wakeup. wup well then Jesus must be a god to who ever he preach right ,just like Moses Terra. Hebrews 1:8   But unto the Son he saith, ****Thy throne, O GOD****, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. If his Father calls him God,then we should also worship him as God. BUT HE IS STILL NOT THE FATHER,BUT THE FATHERS RIGHT HAND. wakeup.

wup

just tell me what would you gain by it

I mean worship Jesus Christ he his still a creation is he not

[Proclaimer]

KJ teaches that Satan was NOT the God of this world but that God is.

However, the most commonly held view is that this verse is talking about Satan, so is KJ right or wrong about this verse.

Let's consult the one who is the truth, Yeshua the son of the living God.

John 18:36
Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

So Jesus denies being the god of this world. So is KJ wrong or is Jesus wrong? Of course KJ is wrong. A further witness is found in 1 John 2:15. John states:

Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them.

So clearly the god of this world and the things in the world are of Satan.

KJ's teaching that YHWH is the God of this world is a dangerous teaching. If believed, it could lead people to be a friend of this world and the god of this world.

In conclusion, the true God is the God of the Earth. He is not the god of this age or world system. A friend of this world is an enemy of God.

Case closed.

[Wakeup]

Quote (t8 @ April 16 2014,16:52)

KJ teaches that Satan was NOT the God of this world but that God is. However, the most commonly held view is that this verse is talking about Satan, so is KJ right or wrong about this verse. Let's consult the one who is the truth, Yeshua the son of the living God. John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” So Jesus denies being the god of this world. So is KJ wrong or is Jesus wrong? Of course KJ is wrong. A further witness is found in 1 John 2:15. John states: Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. So clearly the god of this world and the things in the world are of Satan. KJ's teaching that YHWH is the God of this world is a dangerous teaching. If believed, it could lead people to be a friend of this world and the god of this world. In conclusion, the true God is the God of the Earth. He is not the god of this age or world system. A friend of this world is an enemy of God. Case closed.

T8.

There is a difference between the world, and the earth.
The world is all system of things of the world.
God did not create the system;but it is satan's system.
God is just keeping satan in control;or we are doomed
long time ago.

The earth will be claimed back,for it is God's.
The system will be changed.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,13:09)

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2013,07:36) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,07:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,03:45) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45) Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup Gene B. There is no such as little God. There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand. He is appointed by the big God to do the work. All must go through him. all must worship him. This is the command from the big God. If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God. wakeup. wup well then Jesus must be a god to who ever he preach right ,just like Moses Terra. Hebrews 1:8   But unto the Son he saith, ****Thy throne, O GOD****, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. If his Father calls him God,then we should also worship him as God. BUT HE IS STILL NOT THE FATHER,BUT THE FATHERS RIGHT HAND. wakeup. wup just tell me what would you gain by it I mean worship Jesus Christ he his still a creation is he not

T.

The man named Jesus was created.
His flesh was made,but his spirit is of the Word.
The Word was transformed by birth.
That Word belongs to God from everlasting.
Since God was;his Word was.
What you fail to understand is that God can give
His own Word a form,as His own image.

Our spirit will also be given a form in the resurrection.
According to God's will.If you believe this;then you should also believe the above.

The spirit in the Word was given a form.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
So scripture is wrong when it says he was conceived?

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2014,18:39)

Hi WU, So scripture is wrong when it says he was conceived?

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Do you want to deny this one too?
The Word already existed and was made flesh.
I think Wakeup knows the story of how Mary was impregnated.

You truly are an evil man Nick. If you act like this in front of your brethren, then what are you doing to your poor family.
You must be a real monster.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2014,18:39)

Hi WU, So scripture is wrong when it says he was conceived?

Nick.

No you are wrong.
You can not undestand the simple things.

wakeup.

[Wakeup]

They come in sheeps clothing,
pretending to join in the seeking of truth.
But inwardly is to cause confusion amongst the seeking brethren.

Beware of the author of confusion.
They post as righteousness,but unrighteousness is their boost of adrenalin.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Wrong?
Meaning he was conceived?

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 18 2014,11:04)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,13:09) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2013,07:36) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2013,07:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,03:45) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 01 2013,01:45) Wakeup……….Why did you leave off the rest of your quote? ,  “that Jesus is Lord, to the “GOLRY OF GOD” do you see that there?,  was Jesus Lord to the glory of himself being  a God or in the case of Mike and T8 and “little god”. peace and love to you and yours……………………………Wakeup Gene B. There is no such as little God. There is only One big God,and jesus is his right hand. He is appointed by the big God to do the work. All must go through him. all must worship him. This is the command from the big God. If we follow that command,we automatically also worship the big God.Jesus is GIVEN the power of the big God. wakeup. wup well then Jesus must be a god to who ever he preach right ,just like Moses Terra. Hebrews 1:8   But unto the Son he saith, ****Thy throne, O GOD****, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. If his Father calls him God,then we should also worship him as God. BUT HE IS STILL NOT THE FATHER,BUT THE FATHERS RIGHT HAND. wakeup. wup just tell me what would you gain by it I mean worship Jesus Christ he his still a creation is he not T. The man named Jesus was created. His flesh was made,but his spirit is of the Word. The Word was transformed by birth. That Word belongs to God from everlasting. Since God was;his Word was. What you fail to understand is that God can give His own Word a form,as His own image. Our spirit will also be given a form in the resurrection. According to God's will.If you believe this;then you should also believe the above. The spirit in the Word was given a form. wakeup.

wup

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The man named Jesus was created.

No ,the” WORD” WAS MADE FLESH AND SO BECAME THE MAN CALLED JESUS ,

AND THE “WORD ” THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WAS GOD FIRST CREATION ,

HE IS THE IMAGE OF HIS FATHER AND HIS GOD

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