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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2009,20:35) Hi CO,
Are you always intrusive or is this a new tack?
You should resolve your own differences with our God.
NH.
What is your reason for not answering a question, is it fear?Hi CO,
If you wish to build with God you must first debuild.All the vain imaginations must be cast down with the false gods, false teachings, and false christs and false ways.
Clear the land of weeds and thistles and thorns and dig deep into scripture that a new foundation onto rock can be laid. Forget the rubbish cast aside keeping no icons hidden.
Put yourself aside and it's lusts and in humility let the Builder and the carpenter make something useful from your uselessness.
To all! I have not posted for a while, but seeing how some of you, or maybe even all of you
are judging each other, has encouraged me to say something. Jesus has magnified the law and the road is steep. So we all have fallen short of the glory of God. Rather saying so many negative posts, why don't you try to love each other, which is the second commandment of God. I too have been guilty of being negative, but there still is time for us to repent of that shortcoming. I understand how hard it is, but IMO we should at least try.
Peace and Love IreneIrene…….You are right, but that is hard to do when you have someone always personally attacking us , and at times it get very annoying and causes us to respond negatively toward him. He doesn't want to engage in our posts except with smart ass personal attacks. Positioning Himself as some kind of know it all. While we all don't see everything exactly alike at this time thats alright we can disagree with each there and state our personal views, there is nothing wrong with that, but Nick goes beyond that a attacks our personal Character with his worthless condescending remakes, and this draws out these responses. But you are right in what you have said sis. IMO
peace and love to you and Georg……………………gene
Quote (Gene @ May 05 2009,08:27) Irene…….You are right, but that is hard to do when you have someone always personally attacking us , and at times it get very annoying and causes us to respond negatively toward him. He doesn't want to engage in our posts except with smart ass personal attacks. Positioning Himself as some kind of know it all. While we all don't see everything exactly alike at this time thats alright we can disagree with each there and state our personal views, there is nothing wrong with that, but Nick goes beyond that a attacks our personal Character with his worthless condescending remakes, and this draws out these responses. But you are right in what you have said sis. IMO peace and love to you and Georg……………………gene
G,
Why do you blame others for your behaviours?Quote (thethinker @ May 04 2009,06:01) Quote (kerwin @ May 04 2009,10:49) Quote (thethinker @ May 04 2009,05:46) Quote (chosenone @ May 03 2009,17:52) NH.
You keep calling for one to repent, yet you don't seem to know what we are to repent of. May I ask what you 'repented' of?
CO,
Gentiles were never commanded to repent. Repentance was the apostolic message to the Jew. Repentance for them meant that they were to denounce the works of the law and embrace Jesus as their Messiah.thinker
Trash and nonsense that shows a total ignorance of who God is.
“Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.”thinker
So what do you think “takes away” means? Is Jesus an illusionist or is he a miracle worker? I assure you that despite your claims to the contrary when Jesus “takes away” the sins of the world they are gone and thus those that believe in him do not sin. It is for that hope that God calls his people and it is in that hope God people seek him. If you do not have that hope in your heart then you are not one of God's people. If you truly love God then learn who God is and what he wants of His people and stop spreading trash and nonsense about Him as by doing so you are blaspheming His name.Hi KW,
So you think that him taking away sins is not forgiveness but rather removal of all the causes of sin??
We hope in his forgiveness and the empowerment to overcome and crush satan under our feet[rom16.20]Seeking wrote:
Quote That's the way I read it. But it's according to Jesus, not me!
Correction! It is from Jesus only if understand him correctly. As I previously pointed out scripture contains parables without the interpretation of the parable. According to your interpretation of Jesus’ words that means those who read scriptures are not Jesus’ students. Do you agree with that statement that is the result of applying your reasons to scriptures such as:
Matthew 13:31-33(NIV) reads:
Quote He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all your seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and perch in its branches.”
He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into a large amount of flour until it worked all through the dough.”There is no explanation for either parable given in scripture and there are other parables that are also not explained. God expects you to seek Him in order to get an explanation of these mysteries. If you choose to put your faith in words instead of in God and they will become a stumbling block just as the law became a stumbling block to the Jews.
Seeking wrote:
Quote I don't know what thread you wanted to post in, but I have said nothing about “seven spirits.”
I guess I had a bad day since I seemed to have made one mistake on top of the other and my statement that mystifies you so much is one of those mistakes that was attempting to rectify another mistake. I certainly see how God giving us limits teaches us to be humble.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2009,04:44) Hi KW,
So you think that him taking away sins is not forgiveness but rather removal of all the causes of sin??
We hope in his forgiveness and the empowerment to overcome and crush satan under our feet[rom16.20]
Exodus 23:7(KJV) reads:Quote Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.
As you can see God does not justify the wicked and so to say otherwise is to lie about Him. Forgiveness then has to be accompanied by change or at least the desire for change and if you have the later then change occur as God is faithful and will do it.
Isaiah 6:5-7(KJV) reads:
Quote Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
Hi KW,
You say
“So what do you think “takes away” means? Is Jesus an illusionist or is he a miracle worker? I assure you that despite your claims to the contrary when Jesus “takes away” the sins of the world they are gone and thus those that believe in him do not sin. It is for that hope that God calls his people and it is in that hope God people seek him. “Well of course the world sins and will keep sinning until judgement so you have misunderstood the mission. Likewise perfect men are a byproduct of the works of God in them and not their main hope.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2009,10:07) Hi KW,
You say
“So what do you think “takes away” means? Is Jesus an illusionist or is he a miracle worker? I assure you that despite your claims to the contrary when Jesus “takes away” the sins of the world they are gone and thus those that believe in him do not sin. It is for that hope that God calls his people and it is in that hope God people seek him. “Well of course the world sins and will keep sinning until judgement so you have misunderstood the mission. Likewise perfect men are a byproduct of the works of God in them and not their main hope.
Wow you are without sin, Nick? Does John not tell us if we think that we do not sin the truth is not in us? The sin is not imputed to us, but does not say that we are without Sin. The penalty( death) has been nailed to the cross. IMO the Holy Spirit will make us aware of us sinning, and we have a Mediator Jesus Christ, that we can go to our Father's Throne and ask for forgiveness of that sin.
Peace and Love IreneHi KW,
Interesting.
When did I make any such claim?
Please withdraw this nonsense statement.
Why are you still obsessed with sin when satan has been overcome?[Jn16]Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2009,19:31) hi S,
Repentance unto salvation is a personal matter between lost men and their estranged God.
Reconciliation is the plan and we are blessed to be allowed to assist.
Sharing the gospel sows the seeds.
Acts 2:38 which you quote so often looks pretty public.Hi S,
Certainly the gospel advice was given publically as the gospel should always be preached.
God is surely not interested in a true tabulation of our sins but a big change of heart.
Admitting our folly of trying to do it ourselves and our helplessness without HimThat is a start.
Hi,
The simple teaching of Jesus's Spirit about these matters deserves closer study.
Jn 16
7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Irene………You are right “for the Spirit both (defends) us and (accuses) us. We have within us the guidance of right and wrong , and when we sin it (the Spirit of truth) tells us and we go boldly before the throne of (GRACE) to find relief in our times of need. Brethren we have no need of a teacher for the Spirit itself teaches us (all things),. right on sis.
peace and love to you and Georg………………………..gene
G,
The Spirit does not speak of His own initiative.
We are reminded of the words of our Lord Jesus.To fellowship with the Father and the Son we remain within those teachings.[2jn]
He did not teach all will be saved or spirit is intellect.
So why do you?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2009,05:07) Hi KW,
You say
“So what do you think “takes away” means? Is Jesus an illusionist or is he a miracle worker? I assure you that despite your claims to the contrary when Jesus “takes away” the sins of the world they are gone and thus those that believe in him do not sin. It is for that hope that God calls his people and it is in that hope God people seek him. “Well of course the world sins and will keep sinning until judgement so you have misunderstood the mission. Likewise perfect men are a byproduct of the works of God in them and not their main hope.
So your God is powerless to change men?My God do anything except evil.
That is the difference between the Gods we choose to worship.
Which God is testified of in scripture?
John 8:34-36(KJV) reads:
Quote Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Just as I said Jesus is not an illusionist when he sets you free from slavery to sin then you are really free. The question is “why don't you believe him when he speaks plainly?”
Romans 6:15-18(KJV) reads:
Quote What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
So how can you be a servant to righteousness if you sin since when you sin that makes you a servant of sin?
I ask why would God save you from the results of your sins and not your sins themselves? Is your God really that powerless?
Matthew 5:6(KJV) reads:
Quote Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
If you are hungry and thirsty for true righteousness then the only food that fills you is true righteousness? You do not act like you hunger and thirst for true righteousness.
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