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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2009,07:24) G,
So God does not call all.
God does not grant the enabling grace of repentance to all.
So how can you align your own teaching that all will be saved that what you have just said?
Nick……because God does not grant Salvation to all at this time does not mean He will not offer it later does it? Your assumption that those not called at this time are assigned as heathen and are going to be tossed into a literial lake of fire and burn for all eternity in excruciating Pain is both ignorant and shows what your Idea of GOD really is. No wonder you are stuck in fear and trembling. You portray a cruel and hateful GOD that creates to destory, unless the ignorant can some how on there (OWN) repent and there by acquire the GRACE of GOD by their WORKS> I do not believe (ALL) are being saved (NOW) as you falsely think, but i do believe GOD will in time save all, because it is (Not) His WILL any Parish. IMOpeace and love……………..gene
Quote (chosenone @ May 03 2009,17:52) NH.
You keep calling for one to repent, yet you don't seem to know what we are to repent of. May I ask what you 'repented' of?
CO,
Gentiles were never commanded to repent. Repentance was the apostolic message to the Jew. Repentance for them meant that they were to denounce the works of the law and embrace Jesus as their Messiah.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ May 04 2009,05:46) Quote (chosenone @ May 03 2009,17:52) NH.
You keep calling for one to repent, yet you don't seem to know what we are to repent of. May I ask what you 'repented' of?
CO,
Gentiles were never commanded to repent. Repentance was the apostolic message to the Jew. Repentance for them meant that they were to denounce the works of the law and embrace Jesus as their Messiah.thinker
Trash and nonsense that shows a total ignorance of who God is.Quote (kerwin @ May 04 2009,10:49) Quote (thethinker @ May 04 2009,05:46) Quote (chosenone @ May 03 2009,17:52) NH.
You keep calling for one to repent, yet you don't seem to know what we are to repent of. May I ask what you 'repented' of?
CO,
Gentiles were never commanded to repent. Repentance was the apostolic message to the Jew. Repentance for them meant that they were to denounce the works of the law and embrace Jesus as their Messiah.thinker
Trash and nonsense that shows a total ignorance of who God is.
“Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.”thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2009,12:47) Hi S,
Repentance is an action done before God.
Only God can reveal the inner problems of every man.
The simple question to you was, “what did you repent of?”
Do you not know what God revealed to you? Perhaps a direct but not detailed response would have been sensible, “my sins.”You ignore consistently that your double talk helps no one
so I will not strain the point again.Seeking
Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2009,13:13) Seeking wrote: Quote Parables were spoken to those that Jesus knew were not sincere seekers. Can we say we know that of any man or should we share the gospel at every opportunity?
So according to you Jesus cherry picked who would hear the true gospel and who would hear babbling.
You might want to consider the possibility that Jesus was using parables as a teaching tool since God is a God that knows all mysteries and will reveal the truth of a parable to those who truly seek Him.
I want to point out that not all parables in scripture are interpreted so does that mean those that read scripture are not sincere seekers?
I placed this in the wrong threat. I am addressing your belief about God being seven spirits.
Kerwin writesQuote So according to you Jesus cherry picked who would hear the true gospel and who would hear babbling. Mat 13:12 For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away.
Mat 13:13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.Mat 13:10 Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?”
Mat 13:11 And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.That's the way I read it. But it's according to Jesus, not me!
I don't know what thread you wanted to post in, but I have said nothing about “seven spirits.”
SeekingQuote (SEEKING @ May 04 2009,13:20) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2009,12:47) Hi S,
Repentance is an action done before God.
Only God can reveal the inner problems of every man.
The simple question to you was, “what did you repent of?”
Do you not know what God revealed to you? Perhaps a direct but not detailed response would have been sensible, “my sins.”You ignore consistently that your double talk helps no one
so I will not strain the point again.Seeking
Hi S,
Is it your business?Best to recognise that the roots of all sin are within us and to prostrate ourselves seeking mercy.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2009,18:44) Quote (SEEKING @ May 04 2009,13:20) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2009,12:47) Hi S,
Repentance is an action done before God.
Only God can reveal the inner problems of every man.
The simple question to you was, “what did you repent of?”
Do you not know what God revealed to you? Perhaps a direct but not detailed response would have been sensible, “my sins.”You ignore consistently that your double talk helps no one
so I will not strain the point again.Seeking
Hi S,
Is it your business?Best to recognise that the roots of all sin are within us and to prostrate ourselves seeking mercy.
Now that depends according to the word.Luk 17:4 and if he sins against you seven times in the day, and turns to you seven times, saying, 'I repent,' you must forgive him.”
Jas 5:16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.
Of course, if there is no relationship, your attitude would prevail, “none of your business.”
If that were your initial reason to respond as you did, your garble was senseless.
I must have momentarily forgot who I was talking with and will break off once again.
Seeking
hi S,
Repentance unto salvation is a personal matter between lost men and their estranged God.
Reconciliation is the plan and we are blessed to be allowed to assist.
Sharing the gospel sows the seeds.NH.
Have you repented? Do you know what it means to repent, and what you repented of? I don't think so, you can't seem to answer the questions! You just seem to tell everyone they must repent, but you can't say what they're to repent of. You say 'sharing the gospel sows the seeds'. Don't just tell us, explain how, share the gospel with your knowledge.Hi CO,
You must have been away,
Still plenty of good reading here for you.
If you have not done so do not tarry too long philosophisingNH.
Your usual non-answer, why are you so afraid to expose what you believe? The question is posed for your answer, but is never forthcoming. Be brave, don't be so fearfull to answer, we won't bite your head off!Hi CO,
Are you always intrusive or is this a new tack?
You should resolve your own differences with our God.Nick………The point is you tell people to repent but you never say How they repent , is it by their (OWN) power as in the baptism of John or is it by the Baptism of Spirit and FIRE given by Jesus. John's baptism was a self repentances expressed by water washing, Jesus' baptism was of the Spirit and Fire (judgments) and this causes (true repentance). One was of the flesh and the other of the spirit, which baptism is yours. of the flesh or of the spirit? Of (SELF WORKS) or the SPIRIT? ONE is true one is not, one is washing the outside of the cup,leaving the inside dirty, while the other cleanses the inside of the cup, as well as the outside, which is what you preach Nick?, a work of spirit or the flesh. Thats the point, IMO
peace and love…………………..gene
Quote (Gene @ May 05 2009,02:56) Nick………The point is you tell people to repent but you never say How they repent , is it by their (OWN) power as in the baptism of John or is it by the Baptism of Spirit and FIRE given by Jesus. John's baptism was a self repentances expressed by water washing, Jesus' baptism was of the Spirit and Fire (judgments) and this causes (true repentance). One was of the flesh and the other of the spirit, which baptism is yours. of the flesh or of the spirit? Of (SELF WORKS) or the SPIRIT? ONE is true one is not, one is washing the outside of the cup,leaving the inside dirty, while the other cleanses the inside of the cup, as well as the outside, which is what you preach Nick?, a work of spirit or the flesh. Thats the point, IMO peace and love…………………..gene
Amen brother Gene. The only baptism that belongs to the new covenant is spiritual.thinker
Thinker……..True but many don't know the difference brother. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
Quote (Gene @ May 05 2009,04:06) Thinker……..True but many don't know the difference brother. IMO peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
Gene,
This is because they prefer Moses over Jesus.thinker
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