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Hi,
Some say there is no need for preaching salvation as it is all done.
The truer view is in Jn3.
35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
You ought not remain under the wrath of God.
Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 08 2008,09:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 19 2008,13:26) Hi,
The question posed at the start of this thread is that which the rich young JEWISH man asked Jesus[mt19].He asked what he should DO to be saved.
Naturally Jesus answered him according to the works of the Law which applies to the Jews.
Such a question is irrelevant to us gentiles who are utterly reliant on the fulfilled works of the Law of Jesus.
NH.
I posed this question to you in an earlier post, but you didn't answer, so here it is again:
You claim there is only “one eternal gospel for all”, yet you say: Naturally Jesus answered him according to the works of the Law which applies to the Jews.Such a question is irrelevant to us gentiles who are utterly reliant on the fulfilled works of the Law of Jesus.
So where is your “one eternal gospel for all”?
You seem to contadict yourself!!!
NH
Still no answer? You say “one eternal gospel for all”, then how come you answer the question with a difference, one for the Jew, and another for the gentiles?
Will you finally answer the question? Or skip over with another irrelevent statement???Patiently awaiting your answer.
Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 08 2008,16:04) Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 08 2008,09:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 19 2008,13:26) Hi,
The question posed at the start of this thread is that which the rich young JEWISH man asked Jesus[mt19].He asked what he should DO to be saved.
Naturally Jesus answered him according to the works of the Law which applies to the Jews.
Such a question is irrelevant to us gentiles who are utterly reliant on the fulfilled works of the Law of Jesus.
NH.
I posed this question to you in an earlier post, but you didn't answer, so here it is again:
You claim there is only “one eternal gospel for all”, yet you say: Naturally Jesus answered him according to the works of the Law which applies to the Jews.Such a question is irrelevant to us gentiles who are utterly reliant on the fulfilled works of the Law of Jesus.
So where is your “one eternal gospel for all”?
You seem to contadict yourself!!!
NH
Still no answer? You say “one eternal gospel for all”, then how come you answer the question with a difference, one for the Jew, and another for the gentiles?
Will you finally answer the question? Or skip over with another irrelevent statement???Patiently awaiting your answer.
NH
Philosophy without scripture is of little use. Your comments conradict your “One eternal gospel for all” theory. Waiting for your answer.PS.(probably won't get one)
Quote Act 20:18 And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons, Act 20:19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
Act 20:20 [And] how I kept back nothing that was profitable [unto you], but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 13 2008,12:30) Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 08 2008,16:04) Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 08 2008,09:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 19 2008,13:26) Hi,
The question posed at the start of this thread is that which the rich young JEWISH man asked Jesus[mt19].He asked what he should DO to be saved.
Naturally Jesus answered him according to the works of the Law which applies to the Jews.
Such a question is irrelevant to us gentiles who are utterly reliant on the fulfilled works of the Law of Jesus.
NH.
I posed this question to you in an earlier post, but you didn't answer, so here it is again:
You claim there is only “one eternal gospel for all”, yet you say: Naturally Jesus answered him according to the works of the Law which applies to the Jews.Such a question is irrelevant to us gentiles who are utterly reliant on the fulfilled works of the Law of Jesus.
So where is your “one eternal gospel for all”?
You seem to contadict yourself!!!
NH
Still no answer? You say “one eternal gospel for all”, then how come you answer the question with a difference, one for the Jew, and another for the gentiles?
Will you finally answer the question? Or skip over with another irrelevent statement???Patiently awaiting your answer.
NH
Philosophy without scripture is of little use. Your comments conradict your “One eternal gospel for all” theory. Waiting for your answer.PS.(probably won't get one)
NH.
still topicalMaybe this will help:
Quote Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God [to be] the Judge of quick and dead. Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as [he did] unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?Act 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Hi 94,
Indeed
Act 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.So Peter told us the gentiles were granted repentance unto life
on the basis of only a few with Peter in whom it was manifesting.Why would someone teach all are saved?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2009,12:08) Hi 94,
Indeed
Act 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.So Peter told us the gentiles were granted repentance unto life
on the basis of only a few with Peter in whom it was manifesting.Why would someone teach all are saved?
Hi Nick:God has been dealing with me showing me that He does not force anything on anyone.
All that we can do is give them the truth by the scriptures, and hopefully, they will repent and start teaching the truth.
Hi 94,
Indeed the word of God is alive and effective, able to reach the joints and marrow.
It will bear fruit but we may not see itQuote (942767 @ Jan. 15 2009,12:14) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2009,12:08) Hi 94,
Indeed
Act 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.So Peter told us the gentiles were granted repentance unto life
on the basis of only a few with Peter in whom it was manifesting.Why would someone teach all are saved?
Hi Nick:God has been dealing with me showing me that He does not force anything on anyone.
All that we can do is give them the truth by the scriptures, and hopefully, they will repent and start teaching the truth.
942767…….now your becoming like Nick, who here has said all (ARE) SAVED, please tell us who said that, we have said all (WILL BE SAVED) YET AS BY FIRE> intense judgments. You shouldn't twist what people say 942767, thats one of Nicks tricks. Many scripture have been posted and you as well as Nick never commit on any of them , you both don't even commit on Chosenones quotes and never agree with those posted quotes, why is that is it your PRIDES are preventing you from agreeing with anything that doesn't come from you two. No matter if the are directly quoted fro scriptures. Out of one side of your mouths you say believe Scripture and when posted you out of the other side of your mouths deny they mean what they say.love and peace to you……………………gene
GB,
So it is us who is prideful?We do not claim great understanding but know where truth is found.
We offer belief in scripture ahead of any greek scholar or famous scientistsNick……….you can claim who ever you want , but when you act as if whats quoted dose not exist , that has nothing with the truth that is denial of truth. Your offer your beliefs ahead of anyone including Scripture itself, as has been seen here many times. So if i were you i wouldn't put down anyone it seem your pride has puffed you up to try to be greater then anyone even God's word.
Haven't you noticed i am not the only who noticed this about you. You out of one side of your mouth say Scripture and then out of the other deny it. Your scripture acceptance is only you personal view over anyone including Greek Scholars and Famous Scientists or anyone else far as that goes. You offer not soundness here , O that right you have received a Spirit of FEAR and Not of POWER and a SOUND MIND, so what else could we expect. From such as that.love and peace to you ………………….gene
Hi,
So salvation is of God.
He offers us a way to seek such mercy.
He sent His Son for us to obey him and be joined to the vine.Nick……….i thought it was GOD who joins us to Christ, not ourselves. Then again Jesus must have been lying when he said (NO) ONE CAN come unto Me except the Father draw (Greek drag) Him. Tell me do you want us to remove that from our bibles, as you evidently have.
peace……………….gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 16 2009,07:13) GB,
So if God draws us to Jesus what are we then to do?
Stand outside the door?
NH.
The answer is in scripture, of course you don't believe all that is written, but, “we don't do good works to be saved, we do good works BECAUSE WE ARE SAVED”.
So we don't just “stand outside the door”, understand?CO,
So we do not need to come to Jesus at all?
Another new gospel?Are you joined to Christ and if so when did this happen?
Was it before you were born or when you were born or when you read the bible or some other time?
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