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Quote (IM4Truth @ Sep. 18 2007,07:45)

Hi Mandy Just like to say how God works and encourages us in the belief that we have, when others like Jodi comes and writes and confirms, that we are on the right track. It is God's Holy Spirit at work, Jodi worked at this for some time. It made my day.
Peace and Love Mrs.:D

Can't you a “christian” explain those scriptures? OR do you have a bottle of white out?

Ask your husband. May be he can explain those scriptures that say “keep the commandments”.

What they really mean?

What do they mean?

What commandments are the “last day” saints keeping?

ANYONE?

If not the TEN commandments then “what ” commandments are those in the NEW kingdom “doing”? Rev 22:14!

Do you dare?

Ken

I have things I must do. But i'll be looking for your answer MRS or MR or whoever

September 17, 2007 at 10:06 pm#66239

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Ken There is only one way that you will understand the true meaning of the command that Jesus gave us; “Love one another as I have Loved you, ” Wait for the Millenium.
Mr.

September 18, 2007 at 1:11 am#66251

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Ken There is only one way that you will understand the true meaning of the command that Jesus gave us; “Love one another as I have Loved you, ” Wait for the Millenium.
Mr.

Mrs all the blah blah in the world won't change the ink on the paper.

When are you or anyone going to explain ALL those scriptures?

Or are you ever going to “change those scriptures”.

Has heaven and earth passed away? Perhaps yours has

September 18, 2007 at 1:13 am#66252

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Do you dare?

I guess not!

September 18, 2007 at 1:16 am#66253

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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 18 2007,07:30)

Jodi….> May our Father be with you in your delivery of baby Molly. Your post was very good, and even though I reconize the sabbath, i look at it in a spritual sence also. It does picture a time when we enter into our rest and let God work in Us and thats not just one day a week but every day. Blessings to you and yours……..gene

Because the eternal Sabbath did not happen there remains a Sabbath for the people of God.

September 18, 2007 at 3:09 am#66257

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Ken Did You at all read Jodi's Post? It was my Husband that answered you Not I .He signed it Mr. I was His typist tho, so I know what He said.
What makes me wonder about you how you can ignore an event like having a Baby and say nothing. Are you even Human? Do you have any Love in your Bones? All you seem to care about is if a person keeps the Sabbath or not.

I will continue to pray for you

Peace and Love Mrs.

September 18, 2007 at 4:43 am#66266

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Ken and Laurel That is exacly what I thought you two would answer to that instead or trying to see what she is talking about, you go into your same modes.
And to ignore that she is with child, really shows what you are all about.
You two simply do not understand the Covenants of God.

Peace and Love Mrs. :blues: :blues: :blues:

Mrs, why is it that it is ok for you to cut us down continually, and put words on a page that epicts “my thoughts” which I have not shared.

You rally for two sides rather than one group who is working for One cause. You disappoint me again.

I am very happy for Jodi, I too love children. My daughter just had her first child, my first grand daughter.

Pick all you want it just make you look nasty!
Laurel

Now back to the truths of Scripture….Please?

September 18, 2007 at 5:54 am#66273

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I think we should begin with the two covenants YHWH made with “ISRAEL”. YHWH did not make any covenants with “gentiles.”

The first covenant was like this…
YHWH called to Moses and said, tell the children of Israel to come up to the mountain so I can speak to them face to face, but tell them DO NOT TOUCH THE MOUNTAIN, OR THEY WILL DIE!

So the children came to the mountain trembling with fear because the Trumpets rang loud and the ground shook. They wer so afraid they said to Moses, “Whatever Elohim wants, tell Him for us we will do it, but please do not make us go before Him again.

So Moses told Elohim all this and Elohim said, “Good enough. Here is what I want, They are mine and they will do as I command, and If they do not listen to you Moses, I will send a prophet to them in My Name that they MUST listen to.

So YHWH gave the 10 commands to Moses written with His own finger, and the rest of the Torah to explain how He wanted to be worshiped. He meant “every Word of it.”

YHWH also spoke to Moses face to face as a friend. He told Moses things that Moses believed, because He respected and loved Elohim. Moses learned who the future prophet would be, he learned how the Torah was to be fulfilled by this prophet, an He learned that the new covenant which was yet to be was a better Way to get the children of Israel to listen to YHWH.

1Sa 9:9 (Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer.)

1Sa 9:12 And they answered them, and said, He is; behold, he is before you: make haste now, for he came to day to the city; for there is a sacrifice of the people to day in the high place:
1Sa 9:13 As soon as ye be come into the city, ye shall straightway find him, before he go up to the high place to eat: for the people will not eat until he come, because he doth bless the sacrifice; and afterwards they eat that be bidden. Now therefore get you up; for about this time ye shall find him.
1Sa 9:14 And they went up into the city: and when they were come into the city, behold, Samuel came out against them, for to go up to the high place.
1Sa 9:15 Now the LORD had told Samuel in his ear a day before Saul came, saying,
1Sa 9:16 To morrow about this time I will send thee a man out of the land of Benjamin, and thou shalt anoint him to be captain over my people Israel, that he may save my people out of the hand of the Philistines: for I have looked upon my people, because their cry is come unto me.

There were certain men, prophets, whom YHWH sent, in whom was His Spirit.

The general public did not have the ability to communicate with the most high. That is what Israel wanted in the first place.

Jdg 10:10 And the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, saying, We have sinned against thee, both because we have forsaken our God, and also served Baalim.

1Sa 7:6 And they gathered together to Mizpeh, and drew water, and poured it out before the LORD, and fasted on that day, and said there, We have sinned against the LORD. And Samuel judged the children of Israel in Mizpeh.

Neh 1:6 Let thine ear now be attentive, and thine eyes open, that thou mayest hear the prayer of thy servant, which I pray before thee now, day and night, for the children of Israel thy servants, and confess the sins of the children of Israel, which we have sinned against thee: both I and my father's house have sinned.

Job 8:4 If thy children have sinned against him, and he have cast them away for their transgression;
Job 8:5 If thou wouldest seek unto God betimes, and make thy supplication to the Almighty;
Job 8:6 If thou wert pure and upright; surely now he would awake for thee, and make the habitation of thy righteousness prosperous.
Job 8:7 Though thy beginning was small, yet thy latter end should greatly increase.
Job 8:8 For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers:
Job 8:9 (For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow:)
Job 8:10 Shall not they teach thee, and tell thee, and utter words out of their heart?
Job 8:11 Can the rush grow up without mire? can the flag grow without water?
Job 8:12 Whilst it is yet in his greenness, and not cut down, it withereth before any other herb.
Job 8:13 So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish:

All along the Way, Elohim sent prophets to speak to the children of Israel. Thes peophets knew the Messiah and the Spirit dwelled in them. They were spokesmen for YHWH to Israel.

Over and over again, the Israelites were sinning against YHWH. He was patient with them and gave them many chances, to keep thei part of the covenant agreement.

YHWH kept His promise and brought them to the promised land. The Israelites became fat and selfish and went “whoring after other gods. YHWH had enough and kicked them out, BUT there was still the prophet who was the Son yet to come, whom all Israel would hear. And this WE KNOW IS THE SPIRIT WHICH COMES TO ALL MEN, through Y'shua the Son of Elohim.

Why did they not hear Y'shua? Well it was like this…

1Ki 14:16 And he shall give Israel up because of the sins of Jeroboam, who did sin, and who made Israel to sin.
1Ki 15:30 Because of the sins of Jeroboam which he sinned, and which he made Israel sin, by his provocation wherewith he provoked the LORD God of Israel to anger.

And what was the big deal?

1Ki 13:1 And, behold, there came a man of God out of Judah by the word of the LORD unto Bethel: and Jeroboam stood by the altar to burn incense.
1Ki 13:2 And he cried against the altar in the word of the LORD, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the LORD; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.
1Ki 13:3 And he gave a sign the same day, saying, This is the sign which the LORD hath spoken; Behold, the altar shall be rent, and the ashes that are upon it shall be poured out.
1Ki 13:4 And it came to pass, when king Jeroboam heard the saying of the man of God, which had cried against the altar in Bethel, that he put forth his hand from the altar, saying, Lay hold on him

1Ki 16:31 And it came to pass, as if it had been a light thing for him to walk in the sins of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, that he took to wife Jezebel the daughter of Ethbaal king of the Zidonians, and went and served Baal, and worshipped him.

What is Baal worship that made YHWH so angry?
2Ch 13:8 And now ye think to withstand the kingdom of the LORD in the hand of the sons of David; and ye be a great multitude, and there are with you golden calves, which Jeroboam made you for gods.

1Ki 12:32 And Jeroboam ordained a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like unto the feast that is in Judah, and he offered upon the altar. So did he in Bethel, sacrificing unto the calves that he had made: and he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made.

What was Jeraboam really supposed to be doing?

Lev 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

Jeraboam and Israel were supposed to worship YHWH on His terms, on His appointed holy days, and NOT according to “man-made” laws and traditions.

Why did Jeraboam do this sin?

1Ki 12:27 If this people go up to do sacrifice in the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, then shall the heart of this people turn again unto their lord, even unto Rehoboam king of Judah, and they shall kill me, and go again to Rehoboam king of Judah.

He was jealous!!&
#33;!

What about the covenant YHWH our ELohim made with Moses?
Gen 26:2 And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:
Gen 26:3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
Gen 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Because YHWH our Elohim keeps His promises!!!

Why did He think to make a new covenant with Israel?
Jer 31:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; As yet they shall use this speech in the land of Judah and in the cities thereof, when I shall bring again their captivity; The LORD bless thee, O habitation of justice, and mountain of holiness.
Jer 31:24 And there shall dwell in Judah itself, and in all the cities thereof together, husbandmen, and they that go forth with flocks.
Jer 31:25 For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul.
Jer 31:26 Upon this I awaked, and beheld; and my sleep was sweet unto me.
Jer 31:27 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.
Jer 31:28 And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith the LORD.
Jer 31:29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
Jer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Jer 31:38 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the city shall be built to the LORD from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
Jer 31:39 And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.
Jer 31:40 And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.

So you see, YHWH the Elohim is Abrham, Issiac, and Jacob will keep His promise to Israel. It is His will that all will worship Him who made the heavens and the earth. His will, will be done. Israel will keep His commands, and His Set-apart Feasts.

So the new covenant is for Israel, and all who want to worship Him in the Way He commands. The new covenant did not do away with His eternal commands, but through His Spirit, His commands are in our inward parts, to each and every man who volunteers to serve our mighty El. Y'shua came for those Israelites and all who wish to become Israelites through the promise made to Abraham way back in the Old Covenant. This New Covenant is so that we as inividuals can come before Him through His Spirit, to all who believe in Him and know that His Son was sent for this purpose.
AMEN
Love you all,
Laurel

September 18, 2007 at 6:09 am#66274

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I need to clarify this in my previous post…

“So you see, YHWH the Elohim of Abraham, Issiac, and Jacob will keep His promise (covenant) with Israel. It is His will, that all will worship Himwho made the heavens and the earth. His will, will be done. Israel will keep His commands, and His Set-apart Feasts, as it is their end of the agreement (covenant).

Thanks,
Laurel

September 18, 2007 at 1:45 pm#66283

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I will continue to pray for you

Peace and Love Mrs.

It's just that important! “Come out of her my people”

You have wonderful lip service Mrs. But you have NO fruit for this great love that you “claim” to have.

Jodi is going to have a baby GREAT, WONDERFUL!

As far as you, anything to side step the issue.

Explain all those scriptures Mrs.

You can't nobody can! Other than to say what they mean to “keep God's Commandments”.

YOU don't agree with scripture that is clearly saying “keep the Commandments of God”.

So explain WHY you disagree with the Word of God.

Let's settle this once and for all. No that's not what you want! You know you are wrong you don't want to go head to head because scripture is on my side. So you attack then hide or wait for an ambush. YES! YOU!

Go back a few months and you will see just why you are here on heaven net.

What is it to you If someone starts to keep GOD'S Day? Why do you HATE GOD'S DAY so much.

Why do you protect someone who keeps Pagan days and attack those who keep God's Sabbath the FORTH Commandment?

I believe you should look at the scriptures that say to keep God's Commandments THEN take a hard look at yourself.

IHN,

Ken

September 18, 2007 at 2:11 pm#66284

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Laurel If you take a look at your scriptures most if not all come out of the O,T, and that is exactly my point, you do not understand that we are under a New Covenant. You can give me all the scriptures you want, it does not make any difference to me. I am under Jesus Blood and I am going to stay there, if you or anybody else likes it ore not. I am convinced in my mind, I have proven to myself. etc. Given all the scriptures why I believe what I do and i am not wasting my time to do again.

As far as Jodi's Baby is concerned did you congratulate Her? I did not see that. You should talk about cutting you down, look at your previous post and see who cut whom down.
This is the last time I am going to say something to you or answer back to you. I am done with you.

I will pray for you
Peace and Love Mrs.

September 18, 2007 at 2:37 pm#66285

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Ken So sorry, but I do care about the Sabbath, I do not hate it. Those are your words.
I did not see you congratulate Jodi.
I am done with you and I am not going to waste anymore of my time. I answered all the scriptures in previous post and once is enough for me. I A M D O NE .

aLL I am going to do for you is pray
Peace and Love Mrs.

September 18, 2007 at 2:50 pm#66286

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I am done with you and I am not going to waste anymore of my time. I answered all the scriptures in previous post and once is enough for me. I A M D O NE .

You think so?

You answered NO scriptures NONE!

Explain these scripture Mrs. What do these scriptures say?

1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

You don't keep and teach others NOT to keep the forth commandment.

It's just that simple!

Ken

September 18, 2007 at 3:16 pm#66287

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First, thank you so much for your prayers on behalf of my delivery, they mean a great deal to me. As you can imagine my husband and I are getting pretty anxious to meet our second little girl. Our first, Madeline Jane, who is 4, is pretty excited too. Madeline told me the other day that if Molly gets cold she’ll just hug her to keep her warm. I thought that was really sweet.

I John 3: 22 and we receive from him whatever we ask, because we obey his commandments and do what pleases him.
23 And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the
name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 All who obey his commandments abide in him, and he abides in them. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit that he has given us.

I believe I John 3:23 answers Ken’s question as to which commandments these scriptures refer to.

1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1Jo 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

1 John 3:23 gives us the definition of the COMMANDMENTS we are to abide in. First, we are to believe in the name of Jesus the Messiah, meaning that we believe that God was with us through Jesus and that it was God in Jesus that made him righteous. When we believe these things then we show authority, respect and love for God. Second, we are to love one another, because when we do so we mirror God’s character.

Our goal is to become like Jesus, to be the image of God. First we have to learn that it is God’s image that we want, and not the one we seek on our own. God’s work in Jesus gives us GREAT reason to want His image. When we establish to God that we know we need Him and that we want to be in His image, He gives us His working Spirit so we can overcome our weak flesh. Not until we are given immortality however will we be completely set free from battling against sin.

Once again from Jesus himself to answer Ken’s question as to which commandments are meant by the scriptures listed above-

Matthew 22:37 He said to him, ” “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

Now what does verse 40 mean? Given Romans 2 I believe the answer is clear and quite different from what Laurel and Ken would have us believe. We are told by Paul that the Gentiles did not have the law that the Israelites had, however they were still able to fill God’s requirements. This is because the PURPOSE of what the law was suppose to do for the Israelites was accomplished in the Gentiles SOLEY through Christ.

I believe this is the Third time I have answered your question Ken. It makes me wonder if you read my whole posts or you just stop once you read something you disagree with and respond only to that. Or you simply skim over my posts with a negative attitude, not trying to see where my understanding is coming from. Instead you like to accuse me and others of simply despising the Sabbath, which is not true at all. For those on this thread who do not believe the Sabbath is required, I think I speak for all of them when I say we have the same attitude as Paul, which is we don’t judge another person by their personal relationship with God and how they choose to schedule their worship.

For the fourth time, I believe that your LIST of scriptures refer to the Two Great Commandments, which Jesus went into fuller detail in how to keep them in Matthew 5-7.

Maybe you could answer my question Ken.

How were the Gentiles able to fulfill God’s requirements even though they did not keep the Sabbath?

September 18, 2007 at 4:05 pm#66290

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Jodi,
This “image” you seek is to me the “image” of the beast. It looks to me that you have a seered consience, which is to say you have been given over to your own “imagination,” and are permanently scared.

You and others here take bits of Scripture out of context and “twist” it to “fit” “your” own religious belief, while ignoring Scripture as a whole.

You trample the blood of my Savior, by trampling the Torah of our Father in heaven. If you really and truely loved Him, you would keep His commandments, which are the ones He kept. You do not even keep the first and second greatest commands, because to keep the first one means we love YHWH our Elohim and know He is our Elohim. We serve Him. How do we know that we love Him, we keep His commands and His commands are not grevious.

Mrs.
One needs to read and understand the promise YHWH gave to Israel before times, and see that it was given only Israel. I just gave some very credible Scripture to teach you what you are not understanding, laying it out plain for the whole world to see, and yet you don't even bother studying it because you are “anti-Scripture.”

Lev 26:10 And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new.

Ecc 1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

Isa 3:5 And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable.

Isa 9:15 The ancient and honourable, He is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

Mrs. You are anti-Scripture which means you are anti-messiah.
No wonder Ken gets so frustrated.

September 18, 2007 at 4:17 pm#66291

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I will continue to pray for you

Peace and Love Mrs.

Mat 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

September 18, 2007 at 4:44 pm#66294

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Jodi Two sweet little girls, how nice. Madeline Jane is going to be the big sister. My Heart swells with Love for you, I love babies. Wish you all the best with all. Please tell your Mom and Dad congratulation on their new soon coming Granddaughter too.

Thank you for your Post. Hope somebody else will understand besides Mandy, Charity, Gen and I.
Really appreciate you. With all my Love Mrs.:D

September 18, 2007 at 4:57 pm#66295

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Good morning Jodi and all,

I am encouraged to see how you have studied, and how well you are able to write down an organized summary of everything for us. I need to be more patient in my study and make clearer notes. Your post has encouraged me to do this.

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Our goal is to become like Jesus, to be the image of God. First we have to learn that it is God’s image that we want, and not the one we seek on our own.

Wow. Is that it in a nut-shell or what?

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This is because the PURPOSE of what the law was suppose to do for the Israelites was accomplished in the Gentiles SOLEY through Christ.

Confirmation of what the Spirit is teaching me. Thank you!

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I think I speak for all of them when I say we have the same attitude as Paul, which is we don’t judge another person by their personal relationship with God and how they choose to schedule their worship.

Yup! Yep! You speak for me, sister!

Thanks again. I sure hope we hear more from you after Molly is born!

September 18, 2007 at 5:20 pm#66297

Not3in1

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Laurel,

You should not be so brazen as to tell a fellow believer that they seek the “image of the beast.” Not when they have displayed an honest seeking-out of the LORD. Jodi's finding's do not suggest that she is looking to the beast, but rather to our dear Father who is in heaven; to whom she stands or falls (and she will stand). Her findings may not agree with yours, but that doesn't mean she is wrong! Let's instead encourage one another to press on towards the goal, which is the salvation of our souls.

I have not seen any evidence that points to Mrs. being “anti-scripture” either! In fact, she has shared and listed scripture after scripture! You are speaking falsely against my sister's and this should not be.

James 1:26
If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceivs himself and his religion is worthless.

James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. Who are you to judge your neighbor?

Laurel, I believe you have a lot to share. You are a unique voice here on the board and I like that very much. However, if you could stick to teaching free of accusations and judgements – your message given you by God would go out like sweet perfume instead of stinky garbage.

Long suffering, patience, kindness, self-control…..these are all needed if you are a teacher. Teacher's are given much and much is required of them.

Matthew 13:52
He [Jesus] said to them, “Therefore every teacher of the law who has been instructed about the kingdom of heaven is like the owner of a house who brings out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old.”

Oh, I look forward to hearing about more treasures that you have been given, sister. I know God speaks to you and shows you a great many things. I have learned a great deal by pondering many of your posts. Please continue to bring forth treasures and you and other's will be blessed instead of cursed.

Love,
Mandy

September 18, 2007 at 5:30 pm#66298