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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2008,05:38) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,03:04) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2008,08:14) Hi TJ,
Can you work through the thread on the two witnesses?
Sure Nick….You are a methodical poster..citing chapter and verse is not my long suit….I prefer to rely on obvious interpetation of scripture as it applies to the topic at hand…
look forward to the experience..
Hi tj,
We dare not take any attitude to scripture different from our Master. He quoted scripture as the ultimate source of truth.
Lk4
16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
We dare not find and teach doctrine from any other other source than scripture if we wish to please him. We are servants, not free agents.
Greetings Nick….I concur with you assertion,however,as my reasoning dictates….This forum is not a holy convocation…
It is an arena for the free exchange of knowledge by virtue of
study or teaching of scripture for the purpose of correction with respect to truth….
My attitude toward scripture is one of deference with full knowledge that this is the inspired word of God given for the purpose of Instruction in truth….Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 03 2008,05:10) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,03:22) Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 03 2008,02:30) Quote (WaterAmerican @ Mar. 03 2008,00:58) for something different… is anyone following the events currently taking place over in Palestine? It's just disgusting how they keep slaughtering each other. Maybe I'm wrong but to me this seems like powerful thundering. looks like a storm is brewing…
That storm has been brewing for a long, long time already and is nothing new. What will happen that they will attack Israel. That is what I belief. I belief what Mr. Hagee is watching. The last punishment for the Jewish people and then the end will come. In the meantime I think America will tonyfall apart from the inside out. That is just starting to happen. Just what I see.Peace and Love Mrs.
Greetings….I can't resist putting my 2cents in…If you don't mind…Hagee should lose some weight…He is wearing his sin of Glutony…
The possibility of a Netanyahu political take over is real…
If that happens he will be a prime target for assasination.
In the event of political turmoil Israel will have no choice
but to seek protection from Europe…
In the beginning it seem to work but the betrayal will be eminent….What do you think?
PS. The name Palistine has its roots going back to ancient Rome…
All you need do is go into your Bible you will see the Deed for
the land of Israel clearly written along with a promise from generation to generation.
Palistine is a figment in the minds of a bunch of anarchists
who are bent on destroying Israel (PLO 1964)
In addition Islam claims the temple mount on a basis that
Mohammed ascended to heaven from that point…The truth
is Mohammed was never in Israel.
Recorded history shows the Jews present for than 2500 years or more
You know that it has been proven that not all overweight people are heavy because of Gluttony. When we get older, we get a little heavy around the middle. Are you young and skinny, Hurrah, but i would not judge people because they are Heavy. It goes against my grain and I tell you why. I had a very good friend, She weight at 300 pounds and short. no matter what She ate, it put weight on Her, Her Husband was skinny as a rail and ate like a pig and never put on a pound.
So it depends on the person, if they can get heavy or not. But not necessary because the eat a lot.The Jews were not present for 2500 years either. Are you forgetting that they ended up in Germany? And only because God let them back into Jerusalem that they did in 1948. When they did that this Generation will not pass away before the Son of God will return. Since around 70 some years is a generation we can see that soon Jesus will return soon. All the sign are here to see. That will bring us to about 2018. Look out. But before then the Jewish people will be judged just one more time.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Greetings Peace and love….I stand corrected with respect to my assertion regarding Mr Hagees' weight…
With reference to your time line regarding the Jews you might want to reference the book of Daniel…
The Assyrians took the tribes of Israel captive (10 lost tribes)
and they are believed to be scattered through out western Europe….
In addition you might want to look into the time when Solemen
built his a temple.
If Iam not mistaken…It is Israel that will be judged as well as the Jews…Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,12:40) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2008,05:38) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,03:04) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2008,08:14) Hi TJ,
Can you work through the thread on the two witnesses?
Sure Nick….You are a methodical poster..citing chapter and verse is not my long suit….I prefer to rely on obvious interpetation of scripture as it applies to the topic at hand…
look forward to the experience..
Hi tj,
We dare not take any attitude to scripture different from our Master. He quoted scripture as the ultimate source of truth.
Lk4
16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
We dare not find and teach doctrine from any other other source than scripture if we wish to please him. We are servants, not free agents.
Greetings Nick….I concur with you assertion,however,as my reasoning dictates….This forum is not a holy convocation…
It is an arena for the free exchange of knowledge by virtue of
study or teaching of scripture for the purpose of correction with respect to truth….
My attitude toward scripture is one of deference with full knowledge that this is the inspired word of God given for the purpose of Instruction in truth….
Hi TJ,
Holy convocation?
It matters not where we meet we must show the same respect for and deference to scripture as Jesus did.Quote (t8 @ Mar. 03 2008,08:28) Hi WaterAmerican. This is quite vague and Ron has plenty of escape clauses here.
I can guarantee that things will happen after the 17th too, just as they are happening now and he can say that nukes will go off at some time after that date. That too is quite likely.
At some point after the 17th nukes will go off. That is almost a no-brainer.
If they go off 1 year, 10 years, 40 years after that date, then Ron can say he was right.
Greetings t8…..RWs word of knowledge covers a period from
April going forward for 6 months…Declaring that” an election in this country is likely however because of the chaos as a result of a terrorist attack or an economic colapse or both
no one will occupy the presidency”
In examining this time line we are not talking about alot of time
and I might add there is no wiggle room here…He is either speaking as a true prophet of God or he is a false prophet
and a self proclaimed one at that…Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2008,13:12) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,12:40) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2008,05:38) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,03:04) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2008,08:14) Hi TJ,
Can you work through the thread on the two witnesses?
Sure Nick….You are a methodical poster..citing chapter and verse is not my long suit….I prefer to rely on obvious interpetation of scripture as it applies to the topic at hand…
look forward to the experience..
Hi tj,
We dare not take any attitude to scripture different from our Master. He quoted scripture as the ultimate source of truth.
Lk4
16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
We dare not find and teach doctrine from any other other source than scripture if we wish to please him. We are servants, not free agents.
Greetings Nick….I concur with you assertion,however,as my reasoning dictates….This forum is not a holy convocation…
It is an arena for the free exchange of knowledge by virtue of
study or teaching of scripture for the purpose of correction with respect to truth….
My attitude toward scripture is one of deference with full knowledge that this is the inspired word of God given for the purpose of Instruction in truth….
Hi TJ,
Holy convocation?
It matters not where we meet we must show the same respect for and deference to scripture as Jesus did.
Nick…..Let me make an attempt to clarify my position on this matter….I fail to see how I show disrespect for scripture if I
elect to speak to the lesson of a particular scripture without citing chapter and verse.
Perhaps Iam in error here….But didn't Jesus speak in parables
and third party in his teachings….Referencing scripture while giving instuction in the Temple or Rebuking the PhariseesQuote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,13:25) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 03 2008,08:28) Hi WaterAmerican. This is quite vague and Ron has plenty of escape clauses here.
I can guarantee that things will happen after the 17th too, just as they are happening now and he can say that nukes will go off at some time after that date. That too is quite likely.
At some point after the 17th nukes will go off. That is almost a no-brainer.
If they go off 1 year, 10 years, 40 years after that date, then Ron can say he was right.
Greetings t8…..RWs word of knowledge covers a period from
April going forward for 6 months…Declaring that” an election in this country is likely however because of the chaos as a result of a terrorist attack or an economic colapse or both
no one will occupy the presidency”
In examining this time line we are not talking about alot of time
and I might add there is no wiggle room here…He is either speaking as a true prophet of God or he is a false prophet
and a self proclaimed one at that…
You say that there is a 6 month time table. From April 6 Months later only brings us to next October. Mr. Bush is still our President then. So what is suppose to happen to Him?Peace and Love Mrs.
Hi TJ,
It is not a matter of always citing chapter and verse
but we must always be able to prove what we teach from chapter and verse when asked.Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 03 2008,13:49) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,13:25) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 03 2008,08:28) Hi WaterAmerican. This is quite vague and Ron has plenty of escape clauses here.
I can guarantee that things will happen after the 17th too, just as they are happening now and he can say that nukes will go off at some time after that date. That too is quite likely.
At some point after the 17th nukes will go off. That is almost a no-brainer.
If they go off 1 year, 10 years, 40 years after that date, then Ron can say he was right.
Greetings t8…..RWs word of knowledge covers a period from
April going forward for 6 months…Declaring that” an election in this country is likely however because of the chaos as a result of a terrorist attack or an economic colapse or both
no one will occupy the presidency”
In examining this time line we are not talking about alot of time
and I might add there is no wiggle room here…He is either speaking as a true prophet of God or he is a false prophet
and a self proclaimed one at that…
You say that there is a 6 month time table. From April 6 Months later only brings us to next October. Mr. Bush is still our President then. So what is suppose to happen to Him?Peace and Love Mrs.
Nothing…..RWs assertions go into 2009…A direct result of the resulting chaos which takes place from April until Nov will result in a vacancy…Bush must leave office at the end of his term.Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,13:59) Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 03 2008,13:49) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 03 2008,13:25) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 03 2008,08:28) Hi WaterAmerican. This is quite vague and Ron has plenty of escape clauses here.
I can guarantee that things will happen after the 17th too, just as they are happening now and he can say that nukes will go off at some time after that date. That too is quite likely.
At some point after the 17th nukes will go off. That is almost a no-brainer.
If they go off 1 year, 10 years, 40 years after that date, then Ron can say he was right.
Greetings t8…..RWs word of knowledge covers a period from
April going forward for 6 months…Declaring that” an election in this country is likely however because of the chaos as a result of a terrorist attack or an economic colapse or both
no one will occupy the presidency”
In examining this time line we are not talking about alot of time
and I might add there is no wiggle room here…He is either speaking as a true prophet of God or he is a false prophet
and a self proclaimed one at that…
You say that there is a 6 month time table. From April 6 Months later only brings us to next October. Mr. Bush is still our President then. So what is suppose to happen to Him?Peace and Love Mrs.
Nothing…..RWs assertions go into 2009…A direct result of the resulting chaos which takes place from April until Nov will result in a vacancy…Bush must leave office at the end of his term.
Time will tell. AmenQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2008,13:50) Hi TJ,
It is not a matter of always citing chapter and verse
but we must always be able to prove what we teach from chapter and verse when asked.
Nick…I agree and it appears to me you are well versed….I rely on book read knowledge and total recall….I have no means at my disposal to reference chapter and verse speedily,
having said that, dialogue between you and I could take along time.Hi TJ,
This site has easy access to scripture by chapter and verse and also by word searches as well as a concordance.
It is accessible through going to HEAVEN NET top RHS of this page.I believe we need to really study scripture so that the Spirit of God can draw out truths when we need them.
Quote (rkay101 @ Mar. 04 2008,19:05) Thanks Aop for posting the sermon
Your welcome. Check your PM's as I've sent you a couple. I enclosed my email address for you:)Hi,
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Hi AoP,
At the time of the first resurrection some of the saved will still be alive.1thess 4
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.Hi AoP,
We must be clothed in imperishable heavenly garments like to the Son.1Cor 15
51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1 John 3:2
Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.
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