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  • #204934
    SimplyForgiven
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    Hi All,

    I wanted to give a chance for all to explain what is the “Right hand of God”
    I often question this method of Antitrines to typicaly use vereses that explain that Jesus is the Right hand of the Father.
    What does that Mean?
    is it that Jesus is typically always in the right side of a OMNIPRESENT FATHER or what?
    How can Jesus be literally in the right side of God who is omnipresent, that cannot be allocated to one spot.
    So when scripture states that he is at the right hand, side, and what not, could it not be because they have the same omnipotence?

    and there are others such has NICK, who claim THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST?
    wait i thought the spirit of christ is making intercession for us day and night at the right side of POWER?
    how can one be the right side of power literally?
    how can one be on the right side of power without being in the power that subjects everything into its being.
    Does God have a right hand or something? Does God have a literal right side to see? I thought no one has seen God?

    Here is some verses for all of us to review and study

    Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.

    1 Peter 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

    Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

    Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven

    Luke 22:69 Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

    Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

    Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

    Acts 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

    Acts 7:56And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

    Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again,who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

    Ephesians 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

    Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

    #205096
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    I really expected Nick to comment on this..hmmm wow im surprised he is late

    #205104
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    A true right hand man is someone who can act on your behalf, intercede for you, and never desputies who is in authority.

    My opinion, Wm

    #205108
    JustAskin
    Participant

    SF,

    This is coincidental that I was speaking with my cousin about this late Sunday evening.

    Jesus is said to be on the righthand of God. But God is also said to be on the righthand of Jesus…find it in the Scriptures!

    How can this be, I quipped?

    He made some questionable responses.

    The facts are these:
    God is Spirit
    Spirit is omnipresent
    Omnipresent is not left, right, up, down, centre (Center) or in any other Earthly Minded physicalbased position, or orientation.

    Therefore, the 'Righthand' of God, the Righthand of Spirit, means, 'In the RIGHT', in the RIGHTNESS, in the RIGHTeousNESS.

    So, Jesus is in the Righteousness of God, his Father, and God his Father, is in the Righteousness of Jesus, His Son.

    Further, Facing God…only the righteous can 'face' God, look upon the 'face' of God, and God only looks upon the 'face' of the Righteous.

    Stand in front of, and facing, your partner but slightly to one side. Are you not on the righthand of your partner, and your partner on the righthand of you?

    #205325
    RokkaMan
    Participant

    I like the understanding of Jesus being YHVH's right hand man.
    It clearly depicts who is in power, but shows how Jesus is the next best thing.

    Yet The Right Hand Man has authority and power over everything “The Boss” commands and owns, yet he is subject to the boss.

    ——-

    This explaination seems to best fit the truth of what's going on.

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    It's like a VIP or personal agent.

    God wants things done, he tells Jesus to do it.

    People want to talk to God, they tell Jesus and he relays the message.

    It makes sense to understand why Jesus is at his Right hand.

    #205363
    shimmer
    Participant

    Perhaps as early Bishops said,

    God’s two hands–

    Logos —[the Word; the Son]
    Sophia —[Wisdom; Holy Spirit]

    #205365
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Hi All,

    Jesus being at God's right hand figuratively means he is God's “right hand man”, like RM said.  A right hand man is never equal to or the same being as the one they are at the right hand of.  The one in power appoints the other to that esteemed right hand position.

    The other use in the Bible is when God is at your right hand, it indicates He is adding to your own strength with His.

    Here's some info with supporting scriptures from the JWs:
    To be on the right hand of a ruler was to have the most important position, next to the ruler himself (Ps 110:1; Ac 7:55, 56; Ro 8:34; 1Pe 3:22), or a position in his favor. (Mt 25:33)

    For God to take hold of one’s right hand would strengthen that one. (Ps 73:23) Usually the right hand of a warrior was his sword-wielding hand, and it was unprotected by the shield in the left hand. Therefore, a friend would stand or fight at his right hand as an upholder and protector. This circumstance is used metaphorically with regard to God’s help and protection to those serving him.—Ps 16:8; 109:30, 31; 110:5; 121:5.

    Works for me.  :)

    mike

    #205366
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ July 21 2010,06:05)
    SF,

    This is coincidental that I was speaking with my cousin about this late Sunday evening.

    Jesus is said to be on the righthand of God. But God is also said to be on the righthand of Jesus…find it in the Scriptures!

    How can this be, I quipped?

    He made some questionable responses.

    The facts are these:
    God is Spirit
    Spirit is omnipresent
    Omnipresent is not left, right, up, down, centre (Center) or in any other Earthly Minded physicalbased position, or orientation.

    Therefore, the 'Righthand' of God, the Righthand of Spirit, means, 'In the RIGHT', in the RIGHTNESS, in the RIGHTeousNESS.

    So, Jesus is in the Righteousness of God, his Father, and God his Father, is in the Righteousness of Jesus, His Son.

    Further, Facing God…only the righteous can 'face' God, look upon the 'face' of God, and God only looks upon the 'face' of the Righteous.

    Stand in front of, and facing, your partner but slightly to one side. Are you not on the righthand of your partner, and your partner on the righthand of you?


    Hello JA,

    As I understand what you are saying is that God does not have a body? Is this correct? Is this true?

    David

    #205368
    942767
    Participant

    Hi:

    The body of Christ is God's body. It is through Him that God accomplishes His purpose for this world, and therefore, it is said that He is at God's at the right hand of God.

    But also:

    Quote
    John 15
    1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

    2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #205974
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ July 22 2010,06:39)
    Hi:

    The body of Christ is God's body.  It is through Him that God accomplishes His purpose for this world, and therefore, it is said that He is at God's at the right hand of God.

    But also:

    Quote
    John 15
    1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

    2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    How Is Jesus at Gods right hand, while being the head of the Body?

    How is the body of Christ, which Christ is the head of Gods body, while being in the right hand?

    #205975
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ July 22 2010,06:26)

    Quote (JustAskin @ July 21 2010,06:05)
    SF,

    This is coincidental that I was speaking with my cousin about this late Sunday evening.

    Jesus is said to be on the righthand of God. But God is also said to be on the righthand of Jesus…find it in the Scriptures!

    How can this be, I quipped?

    He made some questionable responses.

    The facts are these:
    God is Spirit
    Spirit is omnipresent
    Omnipresent is not left, right, up, down, centre (Center) or in any other Earthly Minded physicalbased position, or orientation.

    Therefore, the 'Righthand' of God, the Righthand of Spirit, means, 'In the RIGHT', in the RIGHTNESS, in the RIGHTeousNESS.

    So, Jesus is in the Righteousness of God, his Father, and God his Father, is in the Righteousness of Jesus, His Son.

    Further, Facing God…only the righteous can 'face' God, look upon the 'face' of God, and God only looks upon the 'face' of the Righteous.

    Stand in front of, and facing, your partner but slightly to one side. Are you not on the righthand of your partner, and your partner on the righthand of you?


    Hello JA,

    As I understand what you are saying is that God does not have a body?  Is this correct? Is this true?

    David


    You do understand that God is ominpresent,

    Which means that he cannot be limited into one space, he is everywhere at once.

    So…..to just be a body, is a limitation.

    #205979
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi SF,
    That is from catholic theology not scripture.
    God does not live in sinners.

    #205980
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,09:34)
    Hi SF,
    That is from catholic theology not scripture.
    God does not live in sinners.


    What are you talking about.

    #206055
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 26 2010,22:31)

    Quote (davidbfun @ July 22 2010,06:26)

    Quote (JustAskin @ July 21 2010,06:05)
    SF,

    This is coincidental that I was speaking with my cousin about this late Sunday evening.

    Jesus is said to be on the righthand of God. But God is also said to be on the righthand of Jesus…find it in the Scriptures!

    How can this be, I quipped?

    He made some questionable responses.

    The facts are these:
    God is Spirit
    Spirit is omnipresent
    Omnipresent is not left, right, up, down, centre (Center) or in any other Earthly Minded physicalbased position, or orientation.

    Therefore, the 'Righthand' of God, the Righthand of Spirit, means, 'In the RIGHT', in the RIGHTNESS, in the RIGHTeousNESS.

    So, Jesus is in the Righteousness of God, his Father, and God his Father, is in the Righteousness of Jesus, His Son.

    Further, Facing God…only the righteous can 'face' God, look upon the 'face' of God, and God only looks upon the 'face' of the Righteous.

    Stand in front of, and facing, your partner but slightly to one side. Are you not on the righthand of your partner, and your partner on the righthand of you?


    Hello JA,

    As I understand what you are saying is that God does not have a body?  Is this correct? Is this true?

    David


    You do understand that God is ominpresent,

    Which means that he cannot be limited into one space, he is everywhere at once.

    So…..to just be a body, is a limitation.


    Hi SF,

    Thanks for responding.  Without knowing how you thought I couldn't reply.

    First of all, the Scriptures were excellent when pointing out the “Right hand of God”.

    And then came the problem:

    God is sitting on a throne (means He has a physical body).
    IF sitting on a throne THEN He can't be everywhere (omnipresent). 

    How to reconcile or explain this problem?

    God is everywhere!

    AND

    God is in Heaven sitting on a throne.

    Both are true ONLY if you have TWO essences within ONE God.

    YHVH = sitting on the throne and is King
    Holy Spirit = everywhere

    If Holy Spirit is everywhere then “it” can't be a force of YHVH because it is unlimited whereas YHVH is limited. (Not better or greater; different).

    What't the whole purpose of the Bible telling us information and then not listening to it?  

    Jesus' body was not in the tomb when the Marys went.  He bodily resurrected and everyone watched him go up in the clouds.  He SITS next to God at His right hand (yes this is the most powerful position next to the King).  

    Why deny what is written?  Jesus is not spirit and the person to his left is not spirit.  

    Let me ask this, “When does Jesus become “spirit”?

    How is Jesus “Prince of Peace” and then “King of kings?”  Why the two? Prince,,,King.

    #206058
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi DBF,
    God has an EARTHLY body because he sits on a throne??

    #206059
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi DBF,
    Jesus is a prince unto God and a king unto men.

    #206072
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,15:34)
    Hi SF,
    That is from catholic theology not scripture.
    God does not live in sinners.


    Hi Nick,

    Thanks for that. I here the omnipresence thing alot, but don't ever remember seeing it in scripture.

    mike

    #206143
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2010,05:37)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,15:34)
    Hi SF,
    That is from catholic theology not scripture.
    God does not live in sinners.


    Hi Nick,

    Thanks for that.  I here the omnipresence thing alot, but don't ever remember seeing it in scripture.

    mike


    paslms 139

    #206167
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:29)
    Hi DBF,
    God has an EARTHLY body because he sits on a throne??


    Hi Nick,

    When did I say an earthly body?

    #206169
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2010,18:29)
    Hi DBF,
    Jesus is a prince unto God and a king unto men.


    Hi NIck,

    Super! So I could say he was “Prince of Peace” at the present since he is with God and then when he returns and rules in his kingdom he will be King of kings (of whom he will appoint).

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