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  • #145262
    eveh
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    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 09 2009,15:24)
    eveh………I voted  but i wished you would have said we will be given new Heavenely bodies and spirit added back into them. Then we become a living SOUL again. IMO

    peace and love……………………………….gene


    I do agree with that. We don't agree on all things, but we do agree on that.

    #145479
    kerwin
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    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 07 2009,11:20)
    eveh…….I believe we will be given new (BODIES) of Flesh and BONE (as Jesus Has). It will be an exact copy of our Human bodies, even to the number of hairs on our heads. We will look the same except it will be a body that will self regenerate for ever and cannot die.  And Spirit will be added into it and we will become a living SOUL once again.  SO if we are to live there must be a resurrection of both body and Spirit which equals a living SOUL. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………..gene


    I believe I agree with you though I am not sure since some of what you say is unclear to me.

    I believe that we are actually soul and that even the spiritual flesh is merely the tend we will dwell in.  I also believe that the spirit is the driving force by which we live.

    So when we are resurrected from the dead or transformed on that day we who are soul will be given spiritual flesh but will retain the same godly driving force we were reborn into through faith in Jesus the Anointed One.

    I am not going to say that will happen to those condemned to the lake of burning fire.

    #145480
    kerwin
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    eveh,

    If the Lord so wills I plan to vote providing you would please tell me which answer would best fit what I just told Gene.  Thank you.

    #145482
    Tim Kraft
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    Greetings to all: Paul said, I died it is no longer I that liveth now, it is Christ in me. Jesus the Truth of God said he was the resurrection! Jesus came to those dead in sin, no metaphorical life of God left in them. To any or all that would receive or believe Jesus, he gave to them eternal life(no more death). Metaphorically we were all dead in sin until Jesus came and told us the Truth of God. Those that accept that Truth are re-born (mentally) or resurrected to new life in Christ. A new sin free, ritual free, bondage free, religion free life with God through believing what Jesus said. This is the resurrection from the dead state of mind of the religious order that was passing away as new life in Christ was preached and accepted. This is the ressurection from the dead, the Truth from Jesus about God! God bless all, TK

    #145486
    Cato
    Participant

    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 07 2009,16:20)
    eveh…….I believe we will be given new (BODIES) of Flesh and BONE (as Jesus Has). It will be an exact copy of our Human bodies, even to the number of hairs on our heads. We will look the same except it will be a body that will self regenerate for ever and cannot die.  And Spirit will be added into it and we will become a living SOUL once again.  SO if we are to live there must be a resurrection of both body and Spirit which equals a living SOUL. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………..gene


    An exact copy of our old human bodies eh? Yet self regenerating and non-aging, kind of like Wolverine of the X-men.  Sounds good, except at what point in our lives will this template be based on?  21, 30, 60, when we died?  If we had defects or damage including birth defects, I take it those are taken care of so I guess it wouldn't be an exact copy then.  So if in life I was short, fat and ugly I will be that way for eternity, but it would be ok because we will be judged by our hearts and not appearence.  If I died as a baby will I be given a body like I might have had if I lived?  I understand the concept, but the details often seem confusing.  Also your grouping of body and spirit equals soul is something new to me.  One life, and based on this, one body for eternity (for those lucky enough to make the cut) sounds pretty limiting.

    #145498
    GeneBalthrop
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    Cato………..your DNA is the same now as when your were born in it is stored all your information, Jesus told the disciples even every hair on their head was numbered, why, because that is needful to reconstruct the body,  All DNA defects will be corrected obviously with a glorified body.  Body + Spirit (intellect) in it = a SOUL.  But one cannot exist with out the other, it is paramount that both exist to be a living SOUL.  The great thing about spirit is it can be altered, Mind or Intellect can be changed and influenced, both ways, good (spirit intellect) or evil Spirit (intellect), God's intellect is on a much higher level then ours but His Intellect can be added to our and He does add it to all those who He calls and there thinking or intellect is elevated to a higher Godly level of thinking and therefore are able to  discern and render things more accurately, it like turning on light from a dimmer in a room the more energy you apply to the bulb the brighter the room becomes and the clearer things are, even so it is with the Spirit of GOD. Most people are dimly lit < Jesus said if the light in you be darkness how great is (that) darkness.  You see it varies but GOD can enlighten us more and more as He gives us growth in GRACE, Knowledge with understanding. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

    #145519
    Cato
    Participant

    I don't see soul as spirit plus body. Though I suppose such terms are open to definition based on whatever system you are working with.  I view that we have a multi-layered existence, how many I sure don't know but I would guess a couple or so.  The physical body is only a vehicle for our being to interact on the physical plane, I doubt it is of any importance when we depart.  On a higher plane we would have a form appropriate to that state and so on, going ever higher and more abstract until we reach the core of our individuality.  DNA is only, IMO, a template for a physical form in this plane and shares no special relationship with us after death, nor is it unique to us in life for identical twins carry the same DNA, yet I am sure have different spirits inhabiting these equally coded DNA bodies.  Cloning is also a real near term possibility; in such a possibility they would be separate individuals with copies of our bodies plan nothing more.  In summary I don't see any special significance to our earthly bodies once we depart and the idea of bodily ressurection on the earth plane lacking.  If we were to return as physical beings reincarnation would make more sense and would not require any special new means as babies are being born every day.

    #148723
    Not3in1
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    Quote (Cato @ Sep. 10 2009,23:00)

    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 07 2009,16:20)
    eveh…….I believe we will be given new (BODIES) of Flesh and BONE (as Jesus Has). It will be an exact copy of our Human bodies, even to the number of hairs on our heads. We will look the same except it will be a body that will self regenerate for ever and cannot die.  And Spirit will be added into it and we will become a living SOUL once again.  SO if we are to live there must be a resurrection of both body and Spirit which equals a living SOUL. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………..gene


    An exact copy of our old human bodies eh? Yet self regenerating and non-aging, kind of like Wolverine of the X-men.  Sounds good, except at what point in our lives will this template be based on?  21, 30, 60, when we died?  If we had defects or damage including birth defects, I take it those are taken care of so I guess it wouldn't be an exact copy then.  So if in life I was short, fat and ugly I will be that way for eternity, but it would be ok because we will be judged by our hearts and not appearence.  If I died as a baby will I be given a body like I might have had if I lived?  I understand the concept, but the details often seem confusing.  Also your grouping of body and spirit equals soul is something new to me.  One life, and based on this, one body for eternity (for those lucky enough to make the cut) sounds pretty limiting.


    I want my 25 year old body back!!!! :laugh:

    #148726
    georg
    Participant

    I have a question, if all will be Spirit bodies, then why is there a tree of life?
    Rev. 2:7  ” He who has an ear let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.  To him that overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.”
    I believe that the Saints that died for Christ will be in the first resurrection and are Spirit beings. It says that dead has no power over them.   While all others will have new young Bodies.  When that will happen I am not so sure of. That is why those will need the tree of life and will live.  
    Peace and Love Irene

    #148742
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 08 2009,18:23)

    Quote (Cindy @ Sep. 08 2009,03:12)
    eveh

    Unfortunately there is much misconception regarding the body and soul, the resurrections, first and second; who will be in the first and who will be in the second, and when will they occur.
    The fact that the bible says, “blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection”, Rev. 20:6, shows there are at least two.
    The first resurrection is for the saints only, those that died for Christ and did not deny him even in the face of death, Ps. 50:5.
    They are also the only once who will be resurrected with a spirit body, a new nature, spirit nature.
    Jesus was resurrected with a spirit body, his true nature was spirit; to think that he was resurrected with a flesh and bone body not only goes against what Paul teaches on the subject, 1 Cor. 15:50, but it shows not understanding the concept of a ransom.
    Paul says, there is a spirit in man, 1 Cor. 2:11, this spirit is our mind, not a soul; our body is a soul, even the bodies of animals are souls. The breath of God did not give Adam a soul, it made him a living soul, Gen. 2:7.
    The bible compares death with sleeping, why? because there is an awakening from this death. The body decays, the mind/spirit is preserved, how? Ecc. 3:21.
    When we die, we are aware of nothing, Ecc. 9:5.
    When we are resurrected, we will have a new flesh and blood body, but it will not be in the same shape that it was in when we died, Job 14:14,15 and 33:25. We will know what we knew before our death, we will have the same attitude, the same likes and dislikes, Eze. 16:53,54; in other words, new body, same spirit/mind.
    The resurrection of the saints will occur for all of them all at once, for the rest of the dead it will happen gradually, 1Cor. 15:22,23; it will happen during the millennium, Christs 1000 year reign.

    Georg


    Hi Georg,

    Jesus's BODY did not see corruption it was changed from a mortal body, to an immortal body, of which was said to be flesh and bone. Jesus even ate and drank with the disciples after his resurrection.

    Jodi


    Jodi

    What was Jesus' nature before he became human?
    Was he not a spirit being?
    Did he not give up his true nature to become one of us in order to die for us? (Heb. 2:16).
    So, if God gave him a human body, would it be any more difficult to give him back his spirit body?
    Jesus appeared to the apostles and demonstrated to them that it was “He” by eating food, as they did NOT recognize him by sight, rather they thought it was a ghost. The same with Thomas, he only recognised Jesus by his wounds not by sight. Mary Magdalene thought he was the gardener, John 20:15.

    Georg

    #148745
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Georg………….There is no spirit body, spirit (intellect) has no body, it animates Bodies. Jesus had a Physical Body, he plainly said a spirit does (not) have flesh and bone (a body) as you see I Have. The only one who exists outside of a body is GOD Who is Spirit. He can indwell (ALL) bodies if he so chooses to. (that God may be in (ALL) and through (ALL)> GOD is True Spirit (intellect) or knowledge with POWER and IS LIFE and gives it to all His creation as He see fit. He is the source and the sustainer of all life.

    Georg i believe Spirit is in us as thoughts in our minds. Let This mind be in you as was in Christ Jesus our lord. I also believe GOD is composed of Seven Spirits or intellects and all seven of these compose the (ONE TRUE GOD) as said in Revelations. These are what the LORD uses to create everything in existence. Remember the saying (I) think therefore i AM. But Thought or intellect must be in a body of some kind or it is useless. Remember when Jesus said an unclean spirit leaves a man it goes about in (ARID) places seeking rest. Another word it is useless unless it is in a BODY of some kind and when it is in a body that is what a Soul is it is spirit(intellect) in a body. So is every Spirit if it does not have a body to animate it is useless. God's whole creation is an animated creation and His Spirit give it life. This is just the way I see it Georg and I think scripture backs this up. Maybe you can add more light to this. IMO

    peace and love to you and Irene………………..gene

    gene

    #148754

    Matthew 22:31-32 But as touching the [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the [nekros] dead, but of the [zaō] living.

    Anastasis: A raising up, rising, From Anistēmi: To raise up from the dead, to raise up, cause to be born, to cause to appear, bring forward.

    Nekros: One that has breathed his last, lifeless, destitute of life, without life, inanimate. The death of the body, dead person, corpse, death. [From an apparently primary nekus (a corpse)].

    Zaō: To live, breathe, be among the living [not lifeless, not dead], in the manner of the living and acting, living water, to be fresh, strong, efficient, active, powerful, efficacious, the physical life of men, the recovery of physical life from the power of disease, the recovery of physical life from the power of death.

    The verse above relates to the denial of the Sadducees in their belief of a resurrection. Jesus counters their argument then goes on to say that God is not a God of the dead [man does not just live to die] but he is a God of the living [in that there is a resurrection and life for those who want it].

    Act 17:31-32 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained; [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath [anastasis] raised him from the [nekros] dead. And when they heard of the [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this [matter].

    Notice: The resurrection of the dead is at an appointed time. If that be true how can people we know and love already be in heaven or hell?

    Note: The judgement of the world is at this appointed date and time of the resurrection. If that be true how can people we know and love already be in heaven or hell prior to the judgement?

    Note: This all will take place because of him who was raised from the dead.

    Act 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men [and] brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead I am called in question. And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided. For the Sadducees say that there is no [anastasis] resurrection, neither [aggelos] angel, nor [pneuma] spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.

    Pneuma: Spirit, is the Greek word corresponding with the Hebrew Ruach in the Old Testament: Life, living being, pneuma being imparted to man, making him “a living psuche” (= “a living soul”, or being, as in Genesis 2:7. Psalm 104:29, 30. Ecclesiastes 12:7). When taken back to and by God, man, without pneuma, becomes and is called “a dead soul” “dead body”.

    Note: Sadducees and Pharisees argued over the resurrection for the Sadducees did not believe in a resurrection.

    Note: Proof here for Matthew 22:31-32 that the Sadducees denied a resurrection. Paul defends the resurrection.

    Act 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead, both of the just and unjust.

    Note: If there be spirits in heaven or hell why “hope” for a resurrection? One has already obtained their reward.

    Note: Here is states there will be a resurrection of BOTH the just and unjust. Why? Maybe because they need to be judged?

    NOTE: Maybe that is why it is a resurrection of DEAD? Because if their immortal souls/spirits were in heaven or hell then they would not be DEAD, and would not be in need of a resurrection nor a judgement.

    Act 24:21 Except it be for this one voice, that I cried standing among them, Touching the [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead I am called in question by you this day.

    Note: This is the only thing the Sanhedrin had on Paul, was some of them did not believe in a resurrection.

    Romans 1:4 And declared [to be] the [huios] Son of [theos] God with power, according to the [pneuma] spirit of holiness, by the [anastasis] resurrection from the [nekros] dead:

    Note: Here it speaks on Jesus being resurrected from the dead.

    1Corinthians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the [nekros] dead, how say some among you that there is no [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead?

    Note: Here he shows that their argument is foolish, stating if they knew Jesus rose from the dead then their disbelief is moot.

    1Corinthians 15:13 But if there be no [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead, then is Christ not [egeirō]
    risen:

    Egeirō: To arouse, cause to rise, to arouse from sleep, to awake, to arouse from the sleep of death, to recall the dead to life, to raise up, cause to appear, cause to be born.

    Note: If the idea of a resurrection is false then everything else is false. And there is no hope.

    1Corinthians 15:21 For since by man [came] [thanatos] death, by man [came] also the [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead.

    Thanatos: From Thnēskō: To die, to be dead, dead man, the death of the body, the power of death, physical death as the loss of a life.

    Note: Jesus is the reason for a resurrection, without him there would be no resurrection.

    1Corinthians 15:42 So also [is] the [anastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead. It is [speirō] sown in [phtheirō] corruption; it is [egeirō] raised in [aphtharsia] incorruption:

    Phtheirō: To corrupt, to destroy, to be destroyed, to perish.

    Speirō: To seed, to scatter, to sow, to bury.

    Aphtharsia: From Aphthartos: Purity, sincerity, incorrupt, perpetuity, uncorrupted, not liable to corruption or decay, imperishable, immortal.

    Note: This is when man receives immortality, not before, he does not already possess it, neither in flesh, spirit, spirit or belief. It is at the resurrection of the dead when incorruption is bestowed.

    Philimon 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the [exanastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead.

    Exanastasis: From Exanistēmi: From Anistēmi: A rising up, a rising again, to raise up from the dead, to raise up, cause to be born, to cause to appear, bring forward.

    Hebrews 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of [exanastasis] resurrection of the [nekros] dead, and of [aiōnios] eternal [krima] judgment.

    Aiōnios: Without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be, never to cease, everlasting.

    Krima: A decree, judgments, condemnation of wrong, the decision (whether severe or mild) which one passes on the faults of others, the sentence of a judge, the punishment with which one is sentenced, condemnatory sentence, penal judgment, sentence, a matter to be judicially decided, a lawsuit, a case in court.

    Note: This is the path. Do you see spirits/souls coming/going from heaven/hell prior to the resurrection?

    1Peter 1:3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the [exanastasis] resurrection of Jesus Christ from the [nekros] dead,

    Note: If it were not for the Father in resurrecting Jesus then then we would have had no hope of salvation.

    Revelation 20:5-6 But the rest of the [nekros] dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first [exanastasis] resurrection. Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first [exanastasis] resurrection: on such the second [thanatos] death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    Note: Nothing about immortal souls/spirits, but there are two resurrectio
    ns, one for the just, and one for the unjust.

    I believe in teaching of the scriptures.

    #148755

    Quote (Gene @ Oct. 05 2009,08:06)
    Georg………….There is no spirit body, spirit (intellect) has no body, it animates Bodies. Jesus had a Physical Body, he plainly said a spirit does (not) have flesh and bone (a body) as you see I Have. The only one who exists outside of a body is GOD  Who is Spirit. He can indwell (ALL) bodies if he so chooses to. (that God may be in (ALL) and through (ALL)> GOD is True Spirit (intellect) or knowledge with POWER and IS LIFE and gives it to all His creation as He see fit. He is the source and the sustainer of all life.

    Georg i believe Spirit is in us as thoughts in our minds. Let This mind be in you as was in Christ Jesus our lord. I also believe GOD is composed of Seven Spirits or intellects and all seven of these compose the (ONE TRUE GOD) as said in Revelations. These are what the LORD uses to create everything in existence. Remember the saying (I) think therefore i AM. But Thought or intellect must be in a body of some kind or it is useless. Remember when Jesus said an unclean spirit leaves a man it goes about in (ARID) places seeking rest. Another word it is useless unless it is in a BODY of some kind and when it is in a body that is what a Soul is it is spirit(intellect) in a body. So is every Spirit if it does not have a body to animate it is useless. God's whole creation is an animated creation and His Spirit give it life.  This is just the way I see it Georg and I think scripture backs this up. Maybe you can add more light to this. IMO

    peace and love to you and Irene………………..gene

    gene


    Nice post Gene

    #148756
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Con,
    Abraham saw the day of Jesus and was glad.
    Those of the Spirit of God are ever alive.
    Even when they die they yet live.

    The faithful Spirit of God does not forsake us any more than the Spirit forsook Jesus when his own spirit left him.[mt27.50]
    God is the God is the sons of God, the living, who live by His Living Spirit.
    His Spirit cannot die, His gifts given without repentance

    #148764

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,11:27)
    Hi Con,
    Abraham saw the day of Jesus and was glad.
    Those of the Spirit of God are ever alive.
    Even when they die they yet live.

    The faithful Spirit of God does not forsake us any more than the Spirit forsook Jesus when his own spirit left him.[mt27.50]
    God is the God is the sons of God, the living, who live by His Living Spirit.
    His Spirit cannot die, His gifts given without repentance


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    “The faithful Spirit of God does not forsake us any more than the Spirit forsook Jesus when his own spirit [Pneuma] left him.[mt27.50]”

    Pneuma: Spirit, is the Greek word corresponding with the Hebrew Ruach in the Old Testament: Life, living being, pneuma being imparted to man, making him “a living psuche” (= “a living soul”, or being, as in Genesis 2:7. Psalm 104:29, 30. Ecclesiastes 12:7). When taken back to and by God, man, without pneuma, becomes and is called “a dead soul” “dead body”.

    #148768
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Con,
    Dead soul?

    God can destroy body and soul in gehenna but those reborn into Christ have already passed from death to life.

    The Spirit does not forsake us who are alive in Christ [heb] and the living Spirit cannot die.

    There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus and over them the second death has no power.

    #148770
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Con,
    Jesus conversed with some of those alive yet in the Spirit when on the mountain.
    He visited the souls in prison when his own spirit had left him[1Peter3]
    This is our hope too so do not miss the message.
    Alive in the Spirit of God.

    #148859

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,13:31)
    Hi Con,
    Dead soul?

    God can destroy body and soul in gehenna but those reborn into Christ have already passed from death to life.

    The Spirit does not forsake us who are alive in Christ [heb] and the living Spirit cannot die.

    There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus and over them the second death has no power.


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    Hi Con,
    Dead soul?

    Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the Nephesh/Soul that sinneth, it shall die.

    Ezekiel 18:20 The Nephesh/Soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    The English word “soul” is from the Latin solus = alone or sole, because the maintenance of man as a living organism, and all that affects his health and well-being, is the one sole or main thing in common with every living thing which the LORD God has made.

    The correct Latin word for the theological term “soul” (or nephesh) is anima; and this is from the Greek anemos = air or breath, because it is this which keeps the whole in life and in being.

    Nephesh/Soul cut off by God: Genesis 17:14. Exodus 12:15, 19; 31:14. Leviticus 7:20, 21, 25, 27; 17:10; 18:29; 19:8; 20:6; 22:3; 23:29, 30. Numbers 9:13; 15:30, 31; Ezekiel 18:4, 20.

    Nephesh/Soul slain or killed by man: Joshua 10:28, 30, 32, 35, 37, 37, 39; 11:11. Jeremiah 2:34. Ezekiel 13:19; 22:25, 27.

    Nephesh/Soul is used of Man as being mortal, subject to death of various kinds, from which it can be saved and delivered and life prolonged, in 243 verses.

    Nephesh/Soul is used of man, as actually dead: Leviticus 19:28; 21:1; 22:4. Numbers 5:2; 6:11; Numbers 9:6, 7, 10; Leviticus 21:11. Numbers 6:6; 19:11, 13. Haggai 2:13.

    Nephesh/Soul is used of the lower animals: Genesis 1:21,24; 2:19; 9:10,12. Leviticus 11:46,46; Leviticus 11:10. Ezekiel 47:9; Genesis 1:20, 30; Genesis 9:4. Deuteronomy 12:23, 23. Proverbs 12:10; Leviticus 24:18, 18, 18; Isaiah 19:10.

    Nephesh/Soul is used of the lower animals and Man: Genesis 9:15, 16; Leviticus 17:11, 14, 14, 14; Numbers 31:28.

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    Hi Con,
    Dead soul?

    Yup

    #148880
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CON,
    So we are now soul, enlived by spirit in a perishable body.

    #148882

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 05 2009,13:51)
    Hi Con,
    Jesus conversed with some of those alive yet in the Spirit when on the mountain.
    He visited the souls in prison when his own spirit had left him[1Peter3]
    This is our hope too so do not miss the message.
    Alive in the Spirit of God.


    1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
    1 Pet 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
    1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    So who are these spirits?

    He died the death all we mortals must die, but He was raised to life by the Holy Spirit.

    Verse 18 contains a parallelism, the same thought expressed twice.

    1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God,

    Jesus Christ who was sinless, died once on the cross for sinners, and was resurrected to reconcile sinners with God,

    being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

    He died the death all we mortals must die, but He was raised to life by the Holy Spirit.

    The parallelism above states twice that Christ died and was resurrected.

    1 Pet 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

    The word translated preached G2784. kerusso, is also properly translated as proclaim. See Rev 5:2. So it does not necessarily refer to preaching the gospel.

    Verse 19 says that in His resurrected state (By which), Christ went and proclaimed his victory over the spirits in prison.

    So who are these spirits?

    Verse 22 parallels and restates verse 19:

    1 Pet 3:22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

    The spirits in prison refers not to people, but fallen angels and authorities and powers who are also spoken of as being chained:

    Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    Col 2:15 And [by His resurrection] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them [fallen angels] in it.

    Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
    Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
    Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

    Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

    2 Pet 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

    1 Peter 3:20 and 21 speak of Noah's experience with the flood, and Christ's death and resurrection, as types of baptism, in which the sinner can gain, and proclaim, victory over sin and death:

    1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
    1 Pet 3:21 The like figure [of death and resurrection] whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

    Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    1 Peter 3:18-20 does not teach that Jesus preached to spirits of dead people in Hell or purgatory after His death on the cross, it simply does not validate a belief in an intermediate “prison” or limbo for immortal souls between death and heaven, as some teach today.

    When Christ died on the cross, He was buried, and did nothing until His resurrection.

    He went nowhere and preached to no one during the time period between His crucifixion and resurrection.

    Dead is dead.

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