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Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,13:17) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,12:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,12:34) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,12:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,11:49) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,11:30) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,11:19) You(Wakeup) say Jesus is the Word of God made flesh
I say Jesus is a Word from God made fleshI's funny you yourself say “the word of God judges” even though you know Jesus say “I judge no man”
I agree with you an this shows how The Word of God is distinct from Jesus who is a Word from God made Flesh.
Hi BD,I agree with you in this BD!
Ed J
Ecellent! Then you love Jesus then?
You bet!“Jesus is Lord”
“Jesus” is “Messiah”Lord means: owner – Jesus is owner
Messiah means: God's appointed LeaderJesus, God's ONLY begotten, paid our sin debt. And
because of this, he is able to resurrect us on the last day.Ed J
So you don't mind that his name is “Ya-shu-ah”?Then why mind if h is called “Isa”?
or perhaps Eashoa in Aramaic(his spoken language)
Hi BD,I never said I minded if you call him “Isa”.
That's why I abbreviate Isaiah to “Isa”.
Ed
EDQuote Hi BD, God's ONLY begotten Son is named “YA-shu-a”, not Jesus, nor Isa.
Ed J
I'm glad your eyes are starting to open up
That's the only name islamists know Jesus by.
But, they teach a different Jesus and
they teach a different god.Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,15:04) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,13:17) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,12:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,12:34) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,12:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,11:49) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,11:30) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,11:19) You(Wakeup) say Jesus is the Word of God made flesh
I say Jesus is a Word from God made fleshI's funny you yourself say “the word of God judges” even though you know Jesus say “I judge no man”
I agree with you an this shows how The Word of God is distinct from Jesus who is a Word from God made Flesh.
Hi BD,I agree with you in this BD!
Ed J
Ecellent! Then you love Jesus then?
You bet!“Jesus is Lord”
“Jesus” is “Messiah”Lord means: owner – Jesus is owner
Messiah means: God's appointed LeaderJesus, God's ONLY begotten, paid our sin debt. And
because of this, he is able to resurrect us on the last day.Ed J
So you don't mind that his name is “Ya-shu-ah”?Then why mind if h is called “Isa”?
or perhaps Eashoa in Aramaic(his spoken language)
Hi BD,I never said I minded if you call him “Isa”.
That's why I abbreviate Isaiah to “Isa”.Ed
EDQuote Hi BD, God's ONLY begotten Son is named “YA-shu-a”, not Jesus, nor Isa.
Ed J
I'm glad your eyes are starting to open up
That's the only name islamists know Jesus by.
But, they teach a different Jesus and
they teach a different god.
Does salvation come from God? Y/NQuote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,16:49) Does salvation come from God? Y/N
Hi BD,The name “YA-shu-a” means “YA is Salvation”,
Our salvation is from “YA” through Jesus' sacrifice.Ed J
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,13:18) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:01) Boditharta. QUOTE:
We seem to be in agreement on the above statements.
We are wording a lot of things differently but basically
You believe that Jesus is a Unique One of a kind creation.
I believe that Jesus is a Unique one of a kind creation
You use the word begotten meaning SON
I use the term Be-gotten Meaning created Spirit
You say Jesus is the Word of God made flesh
I say Jesus is a Word from God made fleshuNQUOTE.
****
YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.
BUT YOU DONT BELIEVE, THAT HE IS THE ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN.AND YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE THAT HE IS THE *ONE DOOR TO GOD*YOU BELIEVE THAT ANYONE CAN COME STRAIGHT TO GOD;
BY SIMPLY *IGNORING8 THE MIDDLE MAN;THE ANOINTED.IF YOU BELIEVE IN A PERSON; BECAUSE HIS *WORD* IS ALWAYS TRUE. DOES IT MEAN JUST ONE OF HIS WORD; OR ALL; WHATEVER HE SAYS IS TRUE.
QUOTE:
I's funny you yourself say “the word of God judges” even though you know Jesus say “I judge no man” UNQUOTE:I MYSELF CAN DO NOTHING.JESUS OWN WORDS.
THAT WAS NOT GOD SPEAKINGJOHN 12:48. HE THAT REJECTED ME,AND RECEIVE NOT MY WORDS, HATH ONE THAT JUDGED HIM: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN;THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY.(THIS IS GOD SPEAKING).
THE WORDS THAT JESUS HAS SPOKEN ARE WRITTEN IN INK ON PAPER;BUT THE POWER IS STILL THERE.
ANYONE REJECTING THE WRITTEN WORDS WILL BE JUDGED AT THE LAST DAY.(THE SECOND COMING).
QUOTE:
I agree with you an this shows how The Word of God is distinct from Jesus who is a Word from God made Flesh.UNQUOTE:NO PERSON HAVE JUST ONE WORD.ONLY A NEW BORN BABY CAN UTTER ONLY ONE WORD.
THE WORD OF A PERSON ARE MANY WORDS.
JESUS DID NOT JUST UTTER ONE WORD,BUT MANY;
THEREFORE HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.(ALL OF THE WORD OF GOD).AND THAT; WAS MADE FLESH.A KING CAN SEND HIS WORD OVERSEAS TO SOME OTHER COUNTRY, THROUGH HIS MINISTER. NOT JUST ONE WORD;
BUT MANY;A WHOLE CONVERSATION./DISCUSSION.wakeup.
Sill in agreement Keep going
Boditharta.Are you interested in prophesies?
The gospels are just the milk.
You have been christian for 20yrs,its time to go on solid food.wakeup.
I'm starting to get fat.The Quran is so rich and heavy.
Boditharta.Then you can share that fat,so your brothers can have some too.
It is not good to keep it to your self.
You must make use of the 10 pennies given to you,and not
bury it in the sand.Start showing us some of your prophesies written in the
qur'an.wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,16:49) Does salvation come from God? Y/N
Hi BD,The name “YA-shu-a” means “YA is Salvation”,
Our salvation is from “YA” through Jesus' sacrifice.Ed J
Where is th part of the name that says “through Jesus sacrifice”Wouldn't that name be more like
Shu-a-Ya-bar Salvation is God son?
But it tells you the truth that you don't want to believe
GOD is SALVATION
Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,20:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,13:18) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:01) Boditharta. QUOTE:
We seem to be in agreement on the above statements.
We are wording a lot of things differently but basically
You believe that Jesus is a Unique One of a kind creation.
I believe that Jesus is a Unique one of a kind creation
You use the word begotten meaning SON
I use the term Be-gotten Meaning created Spirit
You say Jesus is the Word of God made flesh
I say Jesus is a Word from God made fleshuNQUOTE.
****
YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.
BUT YOU DONT BELIEVE, THAT HE IS THE ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN.AND YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE THAT HE IS THE *ONE DOOR TO GOD*YOU BELIEVE THAT ANYONE CAN COME STRAIGHT TO GOD;
BY SIMPLY *IGNORING8 THE MIDDLE MAN;THE ANOINTED.IF YOU BELIEVE IN A PERSON; BECAUSE HIS *WORD* IS ALWAYS TRUE. DOES IT MEAN JUST ONE OF HIS WORD; OR ALL; WHATEVER HE SAYS IS TRUE.
QUOTE:
I's funny you yourself say “the word of God judges” even though you know Jesus say “I judge no man” UNQUOTE:I MYSELF CAN DO NOTHING.JESUS OWN WORDS.
THAT WAS NOT GOD SPEAKINGJOHN 12:48. HE THAT REJECTED ME,AND RECEIVE NOT MY WORDS, HATH ONE THAT JUDGED HIM: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN;THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY.(THIS IS GOD SPEAKING).
THE WORDS THAT JESUS HAS SPOKEN ARE WRITTEN IN INK ON PAPER;BUT THE POWER IS STILL THERE.
ANYONE REJECTING THE WRITTEN WORDS WILL BE JUDGED AT THE LAST DAY.(THE SECOND COMING).
QUOTE:
I agree with you an this shows how The Word of God is distinct from Jesus who is a Word from God made Flesh.UNQUOTE:NO PERSON HAVE JUST ONE WORD.ONLY A NEW BORN BABY CAN UTTER ONLY ONE WORD.
THE WORD OF A PERSON ARE MANY WORDS.
JESUS DID NOT JUST UTTER ONE WORD,BUT MANY;
THEREFORE HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.(ALL OF THE WORD OF GOD).AND THAT; WAS MADE FLESH.A KING CAN SEND HIS WORD OVERSEAS TO SOME OTHER COUNTRY, THROUGH HIS MINISTER. NOT JUST ONE WORD;
BUT MANY;A WHOLE CONVERSATION./DISCUSSION.wakeup.
Sill in agreement Keep going
Boditharta.Are you interested in prophesies?
The gospels are just the milk.
You have been christian for 20yrs,its time to go on solid food.wakeup.
I'm starting to get fat.The Quran is so rich and heavy.
Boditharta.Then you can share that fat,so your brothers can have some too.
It is not good to keep it to your self.
You must make use of the 10 pennies given to you,and not
bury it in the sand.Start showing us some of your prophesies written in the
qur'an.wakeup.
I have been sharing have I not?Quote (bodhitharta @ July 03 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,20:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,13:18) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:01) Boditharta. QUOTE:
We seem to be in agreement on the above statements.
We are wording a lot of things differently but basically
You believe that Jesus is a Unique One of a kind creation.
I believe that Jesus is a Unique one of a kind creation
You use the word begotten meaning SON
I use the term Be-gotten Meaning created Spirit
You say Jesus is the Word of God made flesh
I say Jesus is a Word from God made fleshuNQUOTE.
****
YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.
BUT YOU DONT BELIEVE, THAT HE IS THE ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN.AND YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE THAT HE IS THE *ONE DOOR TO GOD*YOU BELIEVE THAT ANYONE CAN COME STRAIGHT TO GOD;
BY SIMPLY *IGNORING8 THE MIDDLE MAN;THE ANOINTED.IF YOU BELIEVE IN A PERSON; BECAUSE HIS *WORD* IS ALWAYS TRUE. DOES IT MEAN JUST ONE OF HIS WORD; OR ALL; WHATEVER HE SAYS IS TRUE.
QUOTE:
I's funny you yourself say “the word of God judges” even though you know Jesus say “I judge no man” UNQUOTE:I MYSELF CAN DO NOTHING.JESUS OWN WORDS.
THAT WAS NOT GOD SPEAKINGJOHN 12:48. HE THAT REJECTED ME,AND RECEIVE NOT MY WORDS, HATH ONE THAT JUDGED HIM: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN;THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY.(THIS IS GOD SPEAKING).
THE WORDS THAT JESUS HAS SPOKEN ARE WRITTEN IN INK ON PAPER;BUT THE POWER IS STILL THERE.
ANYONE REJECTING THE WRITTEN WORDS WILL BE JUDGED AT THE LAST DAY.(THE SECOND COMING).
QUOTE:
I agree with you an this shows how The Word of God is distinct from Jesus who is a Word from God made Flesh.UNQUOTE:NO PERSON HAVE JUST ONE WORD.ONLY A NEW BORN BABY CAN UTTER ONLY ONE WORD.
THE WORD OF A PERSON ARE MANY WORDS.
JESUS DID NOT JUST UTTER ONE WORD,BUT MANY;
THEREFORE HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.(ALL OF THE WORD OF GOD).AND THAT; WAS MADE FLESH.A KING CAN SEND HIS WORD OVERSEAS TO SOME OTHER COUNTRY, THROUGH HIS MINISTER. NOT JUST ONE WORD;
BUT MANY;A WHOLE CONVERSATION./DISCUSSION.wakeup.
Sill in agreement Keep going
Boditharta.Are you interested in prophesies?
The gospels are just the milk.
You have been christian for 20yrs,its time to go on solid food.wakeup.
I'm starting to get fat.The Quran is so rich and heavy.
Boditharta.Then you can share that fat,so your brothers can have some too.
It is not good to keep it to your self.
You must make use of the 10 pennies given to you,and not
bury it in the sand.Start showing us some of your prophesies written in the
qur'an.wakeup.
I have been sharing have I not?
Boditharta.So far we have been sharing the milk.
we need to share the solid food also.
And that means all the prophesies.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 03 2013,16:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 03 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,20:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,13:18) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:01) Boditharta. QUOTE:
We seem to be in agreement on the above statements.
We are wording a lot of things differently but basically
You believe that Jesus is a Unique One of a kind creation.
I believe that Jesus is a Unique one of a kind creation
You use the word begotten meaning SON
I use the term Be-gotten Meaning created Spirit
You say Jesus is the Word of God made flesh
I say Jesus is a Word from God made fleshuNQUOTE.
****
YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.
BUT YOU DONT BELIEVE, THAT HE IS THE ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN.AND YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE THAT HE IS THE *ONE DOOR TO GOD*YOU BELIEVE THAT ANYONE CAN COME STRAIGHT TO GOD;
BY SIMPLY *IGNORING8 THE MIDDLE MAN;THE ANOINTED.IF YOU BELIEVE IN A PERSON; BECAUSE HIS *WORD* IS ALWAYS TRUE. DOES IT MEAN JUST ONE OF HIS WORD; OR ALL; WHATEVER HE SAYS IS TRUE.
QUOTE:
I's funny you yourself say “the word of God judges” even though you know Jesus say “I judge no man” UNQUOTE:I MYSELF CAN DO NOTHING.JESUS OWN WORDS.
THAT WAS NOT GOD SPEAKINGJOHN 12:48. HE THAT REJECTED ME,AND RECEIVE NOT MY WORDS, HATH ONE THAT JUDGED HIM: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN;THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY.(THIS IS GOD SPEAKING).
THE WORDS THAT JESUS HAS SPOKEN ARE WRITTEN IN INK ON PAPER;BUT THE POWER IS STILL THERE.
ANYONE REJECTING THE WRITTEN WORDS WILL BE JUDGED AT THE LAST DAY.(THE SECOND COMING).
QUOTE:
I agree with you an this shows how The Word of God is distinct from Jesus who is a Word from God made Flesh.UNQUOTE:NO PERSON HAVE JUST ONE WORD.ONLY A NEW BORN BABY CAN UTTER ONLY ONE WORD.
THE WORD OF A PERSON ARE MANY WORDS.
JESUS DID NOT JUST UTTER ONE WORD,BUT MANY;
THEREFORE HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.(ALL OF THE WORD OF GOD).AND THAT; WAS MADE FLESH.A KING CAN SEND HIS WORD OVERSEAS TO SOME OTHER COUNTRY, THROUGH HIS MINISTER. NOT JUST ONE WORD;
BUT MANY;A WHOLE CONVERSATION./DISCUSSION.wakeup.
Sill in agreement Keep going
Boditharta.Are you interested in prophesies?
The gospels are just the milk.
You have been christian for 20yrs,its time to go on solid food.wakeup.
I'm starting to get fat.The Quran is so rich and heavy.
Boditharta.Then you can share that fat,so your brothers can have some too.
It is not good to keep it to your self.
You must make use of the 10 pennies given to you,and not
bury it in the sand.Start showing us some of your prophesies written in the
qur'an.wakeup.
I have been sharing have I not?
Boditharta.So far we have been sharing the milk.
we need to share the solid food also.
And that means all the prophesies.wakeup.
Be specific. Also, are you now willing to believe?You have rejected the solid food that I offered you aready.
Jesus was not crucified or killed nor does he ever condone human sacrifice
Ezekiel 20:26
New International Version (NIV)
26 I defiled them through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.’
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 03 2013,16:30) Quote (Wakeup @ July 03 2013,16:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 03 2013,13:29) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,20:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,14:54) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,13:18) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,13:01) Boditharta. QUOTE:
We seem to be in agreement on the above statements.
We are wording a lot of things differently but basically
You believe that Jesus is a Unique One of a kind creation.
I believe that Jesus is a Unique one of a kind creation
You use the word begotten meaning SON
I use the term Be-gotten Meaning created Spirit
You say Jesus is the Word of God made flesh
I say Jesus is a Word from God made fleshuNQUOTE.
****
YOU AND I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.
BUT YOU DONT BELIEVE, THAT HE IS THE ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN.AND YOU ALSO DONT BELIEVE THAT HE IS THE *ONE DOOR TO GOD*YOU BELIEVE THAT ANYONE CAN COME STRAIGHT TO GOD;
BY SIMPLY *IGNORING8 THE MIDDLE MAN;THE ANOINTED.IF YOU BELIEVE IN A PERSON; BECAUSE HIS *WORD* IS ALWAYS TRUE. DOES IT MEAN JUST ONE OF HIS WORD; OR ALL; WHATEVER HE SAYS IS TRUE.
QUOTE:
I's funny you yourself say “the word of God judges” even though you know Jesus say “I judge no man” UNQUOTE:I MYSELF CAN DO NOTHING.JESUS OWN WORDS.
THAT WAS NOT GOD SPEAKINGJOHN 12:48. HE THAT REJECTED ME,AND RECEIVE NOT MY WORDS, HATH ONE THAT JUDGED HIM: THE WORD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN;THE SAME SHALL JUDGE HIM IN THE LAST DAY.(THIS IS GOD SPEAKING).
THE WORDS THAT JESUS HAS SPOKEN ARE WRITTEN IN INK ON PAPER;BUT THE POWER IS STILL THERE.
ANYONE REJECTING THE WRITTEN WORDS WILL BE JUDGED AT THE LAST DAY.(THE SECOND COMING).
QUOTE:
I agree with you an this shows how The Word of God is distinct from Jesus who is a Word from God made Flesh.UNQUOTE:NO PERSON HAVE JUST ONE WORD.ONLY A NEW BORN BABY CAN UTTER ONLY ONE WORD.
THE WORD OF A PERSON ARE MANY WORDS.
JESUS DID NOT JUST UTTER ONE WORD,BUT MANY;
THEREFORE HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.(ALL OF THE WORD OF GOD).AND THAT; WAS MADE FLESH.A KING CAN SEND HIS WORD OVERSEAS TO SOME OTHER COUNTRY, THROUGH HIS MINISTER. NOT JUST ONE WORD;
BUT MANY;A WHOLE CONVERSATION./DISCUSSION.wakeup.
Sill in agreement Keep going
Boditharta.Are you interested in prophesies?
The gospels are just the milk.
You have been christian for 20yrs,its time to go on solid food.wakeup.
I'm starting to get fat.The Quran is so rich and heavy.
Boditharta.Then you can share that fat,so your brothers can have some too.
It is not good to keep it to your self.
You must make use of the 10 pennies given to you,and not
bury it in the sand.Start showing us some of your prophesies written in the
qur'an.wakeup.
I have been sharing have I not?
Boditharta.So far we have been sharing the milk.
we need to share the solid food also.
And that means all the prophesies.wakeup.
Be specific. Also, are you now willing to believe?You have rejected the solid food that I offered you aready.
Jesus was not crucified or killed nor does he ever condone human sacrifice
Ezekiel 20:26
New International Version (NIV)
26 I defiled them through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.’
Boditharta.You have some knowledge of the scriptures;
but you still have come against a stumbling block.
And that is *Jesus sacrifice*.This is a great stumbling block that needs to be overcome.
***
Psalms 22:1 **My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me**? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
*(eli,eli,lama,sabachtani)*.Psalms 22:2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
*(he prayed hard for God to let the cup pass)*.
Psalms 22:3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Psalms 22:4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
Psalms 22:5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
Psalms 22:6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
*(he is a humble man indeed)*.Psalms 22:7 **All they that see me laugh me to scorn**: **they shoot out the lip**, **they shake the head**, saying,
Psalms 22:8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
*(this was also the murderer crucified on his left)*.Psalms 22:9 **But thou art he that took me out of the womb**: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my **mother's breasts**.
Psalms 22:10 **I was cast upon thee from the womb**: thou art my God from my *mother's belly*.
*(he had the Holy spirit from the womb)*.Psalms 22:11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is *none to help*.
*(smite the shepherd, and the sheep is scatered)*Psalms 22:12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
*(bulls are the wicked scribes and pharisees,and their men)*Psalms 22:13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
*(looking upon him on the cross they shake their heads,and laughed)*.Psalms 22:14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
*(but not one bone is broken)*.Psalms 22:15 *My strength is dried up* like a potsherd; and my *tongue cleaveth to my jaws*; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
*(they gave him vinegar to drink)*Psalms 22:16 For do
gs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
*(they nailed his hands and feet)*.Psalms 22:17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. *(he was made a mockery to them)*.
Psalms 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
*(they gamble for his garments)*.Psalms 22:19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Psalms 22:20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Psalms 22:21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
*(horns of the unicorn; no idea;could be the portals)*.Psalms 22:22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
*(this will be in his kingdom)*.*(he will teach)*.Psalms 22:23 Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psalms 22:24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
*(the afflicted are not ignored)*.Psalms 22:25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
*(the great congregation will be in his 1000yr kingdom)*.Psalms 22:26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.*( the meek also shall inherit the earth)*.
Psalms 22:27 **All the ends of the world** shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
*(this will be when he is king of kings on the earth)*.Psalms 22:28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.*(the 1000yr kingdom)*.
Psalms 22:29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
*(all that go down to the dust;how can they worship him?)*(there is a second resurrection of ALL the dead,and all judged; the good sheep will be accepted and worship the Lord)*.
Psalms 22:30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
(this seed would be Jesus;and the generation would be the gentiles resurrected in the second resurrection(the sheep on the right);that one generation will also be taught)*.Psalms 22:31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this. *(unto a future generation)*.
wakeup.
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 03 2013,13:28) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,18:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 02 2013,16:49) Does salvation come from God? Y/N
Hi BD,The name “YA-shu-a” means “YA is Salvation”,
Our salvation is from “YA” through Jesus' sacrifice.Ed J
Where is th part of the name that says “through Jesus sacrifice”Wouldn't that name be more like
Shu-a-Ya-bar Salvation is God son?
But it tells you the truth that you don't want to believe
GOD is SALVATION
Hi BD,One must know who salvation is from – it is from (יהוה) “YA” – The Jedo-Christian GOD of the bible!
Not some false god (named 'al-Lah') from a false prophet (named Muhammed) – hardly the same god!
B'shem
YHVHQuote (Wakeup @ July 03 2013,16:11) Boditharta. So far we have been sharing the milk.
we need to share the solid food also.
And that means all the prophesies.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,In the other thread you said you were discussing meat with BD – which is it?
Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,22:04) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,16:07) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,15:34) EDJ. Our conversations Bd and I, would be over the top for you.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I have been reading along, but my scroll finger is getting carpal tunnel.
Ed J
EDJ.The deep things of God is too much for you.
Stay on the milk,and keep on seeking.wakeup.
Ed (witness)
Quote (Ed J @ July 03 2013,22:48) Quote (Wakeup @ July 03 2013,16:11) Boditharta. So far we have been sharing the milk.
we need to share the solid food also.
And that means all the prophesies.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,In the other thread you said you were discussing meat with BD – which is it?
Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,22:04) Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2013,16:07) Quote (Wakeup @ July 02 2013,15:34) EDJ. Our conversations Bd and I, would be over the top for you.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I have been reading along, but my scroll finger is getting carpal tunnel.
Ed J
EDJ.The deep things of God is too much for you.
Stay on the milk,and keep on seeking.wakeup.
Ed (witness)
Hi EDj.You can follow our conversation, so you can learn also.
Bd and I can both have a good dialogue.wakeup.
Great! Try not to attach to many quotes together so
I can avoid getting carpal tunnel syndrome my scroll finger, OK?Quote (Wakeup @ July 03 2013,19:09) Boditharta. You have some knowledge of the scriptures;
but you still have come against a stumbling block.
And that is *Jesus sacrifice*.This is a great stumbling block that needs to be overcome.
***
Psalms 22:1 **My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me**? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
*(eli,eli,lama,sabachtani)*.Psalms 22:2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
*(he prayed hard for God to let the cup pass)*.
Psalms 22:3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Psalms 22:4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
Psalms 22:5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
Psalms 22:6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
*(he is a humble man indeed)*.Psalms 22:7 **All they that see me laugh me to scorn**: **they shoot out the lip**, **they shake the head**, saying,
Psalms 22:8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
*(this was also the murderer crucified on his left)*.Psalms 22:9 **But thou art he that took me out of the womb**: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my **mother's breasts**.
Psalms 22:10 **I was cast upon thee from the womb**: thou art my God from my *mother's belly*.
*(he had the Holy spirit from the womb)*.Psalms 22:11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is *none to help*.
*(smite the shepherd, and the sheep is scatered)*Psalms 22:12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
*(bulls are the wicked scribes and pharisees,and their men)*Psalms 22:13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
*(looking upon him on the cross they shake their heads,and laughed)*.Psalms 22:14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
*(but not one bone is broken)*.Psalms 22:15 *My strength is dried up* like a potsherd; and my *tongue cleaveth to my jaws*; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
*(they gave him vinegar to drink)*Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
*(they nailed his hands and feet)*.Psalms 22:17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. *(he was made a mockery to them)*.
Psalms 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
*(they gamble for his garments)*.Psalms 22:19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Psalms 22:20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Psalms 22:21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
*(horns of the unicorn; no idea;could be the portals)*.Psalms 22:22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
*(this will be in his kingdom)*.*(he will teach)*.Psalms 22:23 Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psalms 22:24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
*(the afflicted are not ignored)*.Psalms 22:25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
*(the great congregation will be in his 1000yr kingdom)*.Psalms 22:26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.*( the meek also shall inherit the earth)*.
Psalms 22:27 **All the ends of the world** shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
*(this will be when he is king of kings on the earth)*.Psalms 22:28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.*(the 1000yr kingdom)*.
Psalms 22:29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
*(all that go down to the dust;how can they worship him?)*(there is a second resurrection of ALL the dead,and all judged; the good sheep will be accepted and worship the Lord)*.
Psalms 22:30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
(this seed would be Jesus;and the generation would be the gentiles resurrected in the second resurrection(the sheep on the right);that one generation will also be taught)*.Psalms 22:31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this. *(unto a future generation)*.
wakeup.
Psalm 91New International Version (NIV)
Psalm 91
1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a]
2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust.”3 Surely he will save you
from the fowler’s snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.
——————————————————-And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. they have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #157)
———————————————————-9 If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,”
and you make the Most High your dwelling,
10 no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.14 “Because he loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”]/B]Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.Luke 23:22
And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he done? I have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him, and let him go.Luke 23:16
I will therefore chastise him, and release him.Matthew 27:19
When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.Luke 23:12
And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.Luke 23:8-11
King James Version (KJV)
8 And when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceeding glad: for he was desirous to see him of a long season, because he had heard many things of him; and he hoped to have seen some miracle done by him.
9 Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.
10 And the chief priests and scribes stood and vehemently accused him.
11 And Herod with his men of war set him at nought, and mocked him, and arrayed him in a gorgeous robe, and sent him again to Pilate.
Luke 23:14-16
King James Version (KJV)
14 Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined him before you, have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse him:
15 No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him.
16 I will therefore chastise him, and release him.
Ezekiel 21:29
Despite false visions concerning you and lying divinations about you, it will be laid on the necks of the wicked who are to be slain, whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax.Hi BD,
You say you accept Jesus words, that is unless of course the 'book of fraud' differs, which FOR YOU trumps even Jesus' own words.
“For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men,
and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.” (Mark 9:31)“The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men,
and be crucified, and the third day rise again.” (Luke 24:7)“And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge,
and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.” (Matt 20:19)WHICH PROVES THAT the quran IS 100% UNTRUE!
Ed (witness)
bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus was not crucified or killed nor does he ever condone human sacrifice BD,
There is more HIDDEN WISDOM in the CRUCIFICTION AND KILLING OF JESUS THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE
Jesus was A SON OF GOD, the Holy Spirit himself as his soul,so he could never really die ! THEREFORE YOU, FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW ARE RIGHT!
But since he was also a SON OF MAN, he had to die, although it was not the same death as ours,from his particular side! FROM OUR SIDE HE DIED THE SAME DEATH, BUT IT WASN’T SO! THEREFORE YOU , FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW ARE WRONG !
NOW TODAY ,
WITH THE PHYSICAL TRANSITIONING OF A TRANSSEXUAL MALE TO FEMALE AND VISE VERSA ,
ONE WOULD BE KILLING THE PREVIOUS RESPECTIVE PERSON COMPLETELY
ONE WOULD NOT BE IN ANY WAY EXISTING, OR BEING KNOWN AS HE PREVIOUSLY WAS! EXCEPT FROM HIMSELF!
THEREFORE NON EXISTENT, DEAD! NO?
SO ALTHOUGH ONE WOULD KILL HIS EX PERSONALITY, HE WOULD STILL EXIST IN THE SAME BODY! NO? BUT IN THE SAME TIME, IN REALITY, ONE WOULD BE, ACTUALLY LIVING WITHIN TWO BODIES TWO NATURES!ONE ORIGINAL, AND ONE CREATED, OR MADE!
SO TODAY TRANSSEXUALS ON EARTH WOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING THAT JESUS DID ON THE CROSS! BUT ONLY CARNALLY! OBVIOUS!JESUS BODY FROM THE OTHER HAND WAS BOTH IMMACCULATE FLESH, THE SON’S SPIRIT, FROM NATURE AS SON OF MAN, AND SPIRIT,THE HOLY SPIRIT, HIS SOUL AS SON OF GOD!
SO ALSO TWO NATURES IN ONE AS WELL!
SO JESUS ALTHOUGH HE KILLED HIS EX FLESH AND BLOOD BODY, IN REALITY HE DIDN’T, INSTEAD, HE TRANSFORMED IT INTO BOTH SPIRITUAL AND FLESH BODY! ETERNALLY!
CHARLES
bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. they have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. BD,
QURAN: Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.”
YES AS I SAID IN MY PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE!
THE ABOVE IS ONLY THE VISIBLE PERSONALITY OF JESUS CHRIST! THE MESENGER OF GOD, IN HUMAN FLESH, SO THE QURAN, STATED THE TRUTH! THEY KILLED ANOTHER ONE WHO RESEMBLED HIM!
OBVIOUS HE RESEMBLED THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE GOD, JESUS AS SON OF GOD!
And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. they have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
YES AGAIN THE QURAN IS TRUE!
NO ONE HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, THE WORD THE TRIUNE GOD!
NOT TODAY THOUGH THE ENLIGHTENING PHASE OF CREATION!
SO , BD, IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT YOU START TO PRAY ALLAH, IF YOU CONSIDERRING HIM THE SAME GOD ALMIGHTY AS OURS!
IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU SOME LIGHT REGARDING HIS HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE ABOUT JESUS, WHICH IS WITHIN THE QURAN BUT IN A MORE SPIRITUAL TRUTH!
CHARLES
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote “For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men,
and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.” (Mark 9:31)“The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men,
and be crucified, and the third day rise again.” (Luke 24:7)“And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge,
and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.” (Matt 20:19)Edj,
AS I EXPLAINED IN MY LAST POSTS:
The above is definitely JESUS AS SON OF MAN THE WORD MADE FLESH!
NOW THE QURAN IS REFERRING TO JESUS
AS SON OF GOD SPIRIT WISE!
SINCE GOD IS A SPIRIT! JESUS' SOUL, THE HOLY SPIRIT!
SO OUR BIBLE IS MORE CONCENTRATED ON JESUS AS A HUMAN!
AND THE QURAN, IS MORE CONCENTRATED ON THE SPIRIT SIDE OF JESUS! BUT CONCEALED! SINCE IT IS SPIRIT!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,05:35) Hi BD, You say you accept Jesus words, that is unless of course the 'book of fraud' differs, which FOR YOU trumps even Jesus' own words.
“For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men,
and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.” (Mark 9:31)“The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men,
and be crucified, and the third day rise again.” (Luke 24:7)“And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge,
and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.” (Matt 20:19)WHICH PROVES THAT the quran IS 100% UNTRUE!
Ed (witness)
Okay ED, Jesus said accordng to the scriptures:Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Was Jesus in the tomb a third night? Yes or No
Quote (carmel @ July 04 2013,08:02) bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. they have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. BD,
QURAN: Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.”
YES AS I SAID IN MY PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE!
THE ABOVE IS ONLY THE VISIBLE PERSONALITY OF JESUS CHRIST! THE MESENGER OF GOD, IN HUMAN FLESH, SO THE QURAN, STATED THE TRUTH! THEY KILLED ANOTHER ONE WHO RESEMBLED HIM!
OBVIOUS HE RESEMBLED THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE GOD, JESUS AS SON OF GOD!
And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. they have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
YES AGAIN THE QURAN IS TRUE!
NO ONE HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, THE WORD THE TRIUNE GOD!
NOT TODAY THOUGH THE ENLIGHTENING PHASE OF CREATION!
SO , BD, IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT YOU START TO PRAY ALLAH, IF YOU CONSIDERRING HIM THE SAME GOD ALMIGHTY AS OURS!
IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU SOME LIGHT REGARDING HIS HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE ABOUT JESUS, WHICH IS WITHIN THE QURAN BUT IN A MORE SPIRITUAL TRUTH!
CHARLES
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)
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