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Quote **WOULD GOD DESTROY THE SHEPHERDS,FOR *NOT* TEACHING ERROR**? WOULD GOD DESTROY THE SAINTS ALSO? (WAKEUP). Wakeup,
WHAT HAPPENED TO JESUS CHRIST'S BODY?
WASN'T IT DESTROYED COMPLETELY?
WASN'T IT RESTORED ANEW AND EVEN GLORIFIED, AND BECAME THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT?
THEREFORE ALL MUST BE DESTROYED CRANALLY!
ALL WHATEVER IS VISIBLE NO MATTER WHAT MUST BE REBORN IN THE SPIRIT!
SO FOR ALL THOSE WHO LIVE ON EARTH IT CHRIST'S SPIRIT, NOT IN THE LUST OF THE FLESH WOULD RESURRECT IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION THE VERY INSTANT THEY DIE IN THE FLESH BODY ON EARTH,
BUT IT IS THEIR SOUL TO RESURRECT FIRST,SINCE IT WAS DEAD WHILE ON EARTH
JESUS CONFIRMED THIS WE WOULD COME FROM DEATH TO LIFE ONLY BECAUSE OUR SOUL IS SPIRITUALLY DEAD IN THE BLOOD!
HE ALSO SAID: LET THE DEAD BURRY THE DEAD
HE WAS REFERRING TO THOSE WHO WERE DEAD SPIRITUALLY IN THEIR SOUL , AND CARRYING THE DEAD FLESH AND BLOOD BODY IN THE COFFIN,
SO WE ARE ALL DEAD YET! OUR SOUL IS BURRIED IN THE BLOOD! AS A PUNISHMENT THROUGH ADAM SINNED!
IT IS ONLY THROUGH FAITH AND HOPE IN CHRIST THAT WE LIVE IN HIS SPIRIT WITHOUT CHRIST WE ARE DEAD! ALREADY JUDGED!
SO IF WE LIVE IN HIM, EVERY DAY, WE WOULD GAIN CHRIST!
BUT ONLY IF WE DESTROY THIS
FLESH AND BLOOD BEAST
HIS LUST HIS IMAGE
AND NEVER ALLOW WITHIN OUR MINDS AND EXECUTE WITH OUR HANDS ITS CARACHTER
THERE ARE NO ONE ALIVE ON EARTH , EXCEPT IN THE FLESH AND BLOOD SUBSTANCE ! DEU TO THE FACT THAT THE SOUL IS IN THE BLOOD!
SO UNLESS THE FLESH AND BLOOD THE BEAST DIES, OBVIOUS, THE SOUL WOULD NEVER RESURRECT
AND THAT IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION OF THE SOUL
AND THE SECOND DEATH HAS NO POWER ON THOSE WHO DENY THE BEAST,
SO AS SOON AS THE SOUL LEAVES THE BODY AND FIND HERSELF IN FRONT OF JESUS, THE ONLY JUDGE,
SHE WOULD NOT DIE THE SECOND DEATH,WHICH MEANS THAT SHE WOULD NOT GO TO HELL, SINCE SHE LIVED AS PRIESTS OF GOD AND OF CHRIST ON EARTH , IN HIS THOUSAND YEARS REIGN WHICH IS NOW, THIS PERIOD!
AND CONTINUE LIVING WITH GOD AND CHRIST TILL HIS THOUSAND YEARS ARE FINNISHED!
NOW CALCULATE THE THOUSAND YEARS WITH THE RATE OF:
ONE DAY AS THOUSAND YEARS!
OBVIOUS ETERNITY!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2013,12:03) Quote 5. God wanted him to be his sacrifice;He followed.
*Gods gift* to us,to *PROOF* his *love* for us, is the sacrifice of his only begotten son.We *reject this gift*; we *reject God*.
Can you show me a single scripture where God says he wants HIS son to be a sacrifice?
I can, how about two?“Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:
but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there
a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” (John 12:27-28)“For God so loved the world, that he gave(sacrificed) his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the
world through him might be saved.” (John 3:16-17)Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of
the truth(Gospel of Jesus Christ), there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for sins.Ed
Quote (carmel @ June 26 2013,17:46) Wakeup,June wrote:[/quote]
Quote **WOULD GOD DESTROY THE SHEPHERDS,FOR *NOT* TEACHING ERROR**? WOULD GOD DESTROY THE SAINTS ALSO? (WAKEUP). Wakeup,
WHAT HAPPENED TO JESUS CHRIST'S BODY?
WASN'T IT DESTROYED COMPLETELY?
WASN'T IT RESTORED ANEW AND EVEN GLORIFIED, AND BECAME THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT?
THEREFORE ALL MUST BE DESTROYED CRANALLY!
ALL WHATEVER IS VISIBLE NO MATTER WHAT MUST BE REBORN IN THE SPIRIT!
SO FOR ALL THOSE WHO LIVE ON EARTH IT CHRIST'S SPIRIT, NOT IN THE LUST OF THE FLESH WOULD RESURRECT IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION THE VERY INSTANT THEY DIE IN THE FLESH BODY ON EARTH,
BUT IT IS THEIR SOUL TO RESURRECT FIRST,SINCE IT WAS DEAD WHILE ON EARTH
JESUS CONFIRMED THIS WE WOULD COME FROM DEATH TO LIFE ONLY BECAUSE OUR SOUL IS SPIRITUALLY DEAD IN THE BLOOD!
HE ALSO SAID: LET THE DEAD BURRY THE DEAD
HE WAS REFERRING TO THOSE WHO WERE DEAD SPIRITUALLY IN THEIR SOUL , AND CARRYING THE DEAD FLESH AND BLOOD BODY IN THE COFFIN,
SO WE ARE ALL DEAD YET! OUR SOUL IS BURRIED IN THE BLOOD! AS A PUNISHMENT THROUGH ADAM SINNED!
IT IS ONLY THROUGH FAITH AND HOPE IN CHRIST THAT WE LIVE IN HIS SPIRIT WITHOUT CHRIST WE ARE DEAD! ALREADY JUDGED!
SO IF WE LIVE IN HIM, EVERY DAY, WE WOULD GAIN CHRIST!
BUT ONLY IF WE DESTROY THIS
FLESH AND BLOOD BEAST
HIS LUST HIS IMAGE
AND NEVER ALLOW WITHIN OUR MINDS AND EXECUTE WITH OUR HANDS ITS CARACHTER
THERE ARE NO ONE ALIVE ON EARTH , EXCEPT IN THE FLESH AND BLOOD SUBSTANCE ! DEU TO THE FACT THAT THE SOUL IS IN THE BLOOD!
SO UNLESS THE FLESH AND BLOOD THE BEAST DIES, OBVIOUS, THE SOUL WOULD NEVER RESURRECT
AND THAT IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION OF THE SOUL
AND THE SECOND DEATH HAS NO POWER ON THOSE WHO DENY THE BEAST,
SO AS SOON AS THE SOUL LEAVES THE BODY AND FIND HERSELF IN FRONT OF JESUS, THE ONLY JUDGE,
SHE WOULD NOT DIE THE SECOND DEATH,WHICH MEANS THAT SHE WOULD NOT GO TO HELL, SINCE SHE LIVED AS PRIESTS OF GOD AND OF CHRIST ON EARTH , IN HIS THOUSAND YEARS REIGN WHICH IS NOW, THIS PERIOD!
AND CONTINUE LIVING WITH GOD AND CHRIST TILL HIS THOUSAND YEARS ARE FINNISHED!
NOW CALCULATE THE THOUSAND YEARS WITH THE RATE OF:
ONE DAY AS THOUSAND YEARS!
OBVIOUS ETERNITY!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.QUOTE:
WHAT HAPPENED TO JESUS CHRIST'S BODY?WASN'T IT DESTROYED COMPLETELY?UNQUOTE:
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NO; HIS BODY WAS NOT DESTROYED,AND NEITHER HIS CLOTHES. THE FLESH WAS TRANSFORMED INTO SPIRIT.(WAKEUP).
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QUOTE:
WASN'T IT RESTORED ANEW AND EVEN GLORIFIED, AND BECAME THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT?
THEREFORE ALL MUST BE DESTROYED CRANALLY!UNQUOTE:
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YES;TRANSFORMED;BUT NOT DESTROYED.
AT THE COMING; THE LIVING WILL BE CHANGED IN A TWINKLING OF AN EYE.(WAKEUP).
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QUOTE:
ALL WHATEVER IS VISIBLE NO MATTER WHAT MUST BE REBORN IN THE SPIRIT!
SO FOR ALL THOSE WHO LIVE ON EARTH IT CHRIST'S SPIRIT, NOT IN THE LUST OF THE FLESH WOULD RESURRECT IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION THE VERY INSTANT THEY DIE IN THE FLESH BODY ON EARTH,
BUT IT IS THEIR SOUL TO RESURRECT FIRST,SINCE IT WAS DEAD WHILE ON EARTH. UNQUOTE:
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JESUS SAID:
THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU, THEY ARE SPIRIT; IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKENS.(WAKEUP).
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QUOTE:
JESUS CONFIRMED THIS WE WOULD COME FROM DEATH TO LIFE ONLY BECAUSE OUR SOUL IS SPIRITUALLY DEAD IN THE BLOOD!
HE ALSO SAID: LET THE DEAD BURRY THE DEAD
HE WAS REFERRING TO THOSE WHO WERE DEAD SPIRITUALLY IN THEIR SOUL , AND CARRYING THE DEAD FLESH AND BLOOD BODY IN THE COFFIN,
SO WE ARE ALL DEAD YET! OUR SOUL IS BURRIED IN THE BLOOD! AS A PUNISHMENT THROUGH ADAM SINNED!UNQUOTE:
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A PERSON BREATHING;CAN ALSO BE DEAD SPIRITUALLY.
SUCH AS ATHEISTS, AND WORKERS OF EVIL.(WAKEUP).
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IT IS ONLY THROUGH FAITH AND HOPE IN CHRIST THAT WE LIVE IN HIS SPIRIT WITHOUT CHRIST WE ARE DEAD! ALREADY JUDGED!
SO IF WE LIVE IN HIM, EVERY DAY, WE WOULD GAIN CHRIST!UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————I AGREE HERE.(WAKEUP).
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QUOTE:
BUT ONLY IF WE DESTROY THIS
FLESH AND BLOOD BEAST
HIS LUST HIS IMAGE
AND NEVER ALLOW WITHIN OUR MINDS AND EXECUTE WITH OUR HANDS ITS CARACHTER.UNQUOTE:
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ADAM WAS FLESH ALSO BEFORE HE SINNED;JESUS WAS FLESH; BUT HE WAS CLEAN AND RIGHTEOUS.(WAKEUP).
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QUOTE:
THERE ARE NO ONE ALIVE ON EARTH , EXCEPT IN THE FLESH AND BLOOD SUBSTANCE ! DEU TO THE FACT THAT THE SOUL IS IN THE BLOOD!UNQUOTE:
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THE FLESH AND THE BREATH OF LIFE,MAKES A LIVING SOUL.THE SOUL IS NOT THE BLOOD.(WAKEUP).
—————————————————————–QUOTE:
SO UNLESS THE FLESH AND BLOOD THE BEAST DIES, OBVIOUS, THE SOUL WOULD NEVER RESURRECT
AND THAT IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION OF THE SOUL
AND THE SECOND DEATH HAS NO POWER ON THOSE WHO DENY THE BEAST,
SO AS SOON AS THE SOUL LEAVES THE BODY AND FIND HERSELF IN FRONT OF JESUS, THE ONLY JUDGE,SHE WOULD NOT DIE THE SECOND DEATH,WHICH MEANS THAT SHE WOULD NOT GO TO HELL, SINCE SHE LIVED AS PRIESTS OF GOD AND OF CHRIST ON EARTH , IN HIS THOUSAND YEARS REIGN WHICH IS NOW, THIS PERIOD!
AND CONTINUE LIVING WITH GOD AND CHRIST TILL HIS THOUSAND YEARS ARE FINNISHED!UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————–
THERE IS NO RESURRECTION EVERYTIME SOMEONE DIES.
BUT THERE IS A DAY APPOINTED;CALLED THE DAY OF THE RESURRECTION. CHRIST IS FIRST,NO ONE CAN GO BEFORE HIM.(WAKEUP).
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QUOTE:
NOW CALCULATE THE THOUSAND YEARS WITH THE RATE OF:
ONE DAY AS THOUSAND YEARS!
OBVIOUS ETERNITY.UNQUOTE:
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IT DOES NOT SAY A DAY *IS* A THOUSAND YEARS; BUT A DAY IS **AS** A THOUSAND YEARS.
WHEN GOD SAYS SPECIFICALLY;CHRIST WILL REIGN A THOUSAND YEARS;THAT MEANS A LITTERAL THOUSAND YEARS.(WAKEUP).
—————————————————————–wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,18:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2013,12:03) Quote 5. God wanted him to be his sacrifice;He followed.
*Gods gift* to us,to *PROOF* his *love* for us, is the sacrifice of his only begotten son.We *reject this gift*; we *reject God*.
Can you show me a single scripture where God says he wants HIS son to be a sacrifice?
I can, how about two?“Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:
but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there
a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” (John 12:27-28)“For God so loved the world, that he gave(sacrificed) his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the
world through him might be saved.” (John 3:16-17)Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of
the truth(Gospel of Jesus Christ), there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for sins.Ed
ED How is that a quot from God?I said show me were it says “GOD SAID” and you have not done it.
Plus you claim the phrase “Gave His only begotten son means sacrificed His only begotten son.
First off, did Jesus ask to be saved? Did he in fact say these words?
from Matthew 26:39
…..“My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”…..
Why is it reported he said “Take this cup from me”?
Which is asking to be saved if at all possible.
So did Jesus say “if it IS POSSIBLE, May this cup be taken from me”?
Did Jesus directly say this YES or NO *please only answer yes or no to that question ED
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2013,14:48) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,18:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2013,12:03) Quote 5. God wanted him to be his sacrifice;He followed.
*Gods gift* to us,to *PROOF* his *love* for us, is the sacrifice of his only begotten son.We *reject this gift*; we *reject God*.
Can you show me a single scripture where God says he wants HIS son to be a sacrifice?
I can, how about two?“Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:
but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there
a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” (John 12:27-28)“For God so loved the world, that he gave(sacrificed) his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the
world through him might be saved.” (John 3:16-17)Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of
the truth(Gospel of Jesus Christ), there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for sins.Ed
ED How is that a quot from God?I said show me were it says “GOD SAID” and you have not done it.
Plus you claim the phrase “Gave His only begotten son means sacrificed His only begotten son.
First off, did Jesus ask to be saved? Did he in fact say these words?
from Matthew 26:39
…..“My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”…..
Why is it reported he said “Take this cup from me”?
Which is asking to be saved if at all possible.
So did Jesus say “if it IS POSSIBLE, May this cup be taken from me”?
Did Jesus directly say this YES or NO *please only answer yes or no to that question ED
Hi BD,You are trying to make a point, but the point that you are
trying to make “PROVES” that Gospel story was God's plan,
which is the very point you are working to ignore or diminish.In John 12:27-28, it clearly shows it to be God's plan from the beginning.
So Jesus getting cold-feet about going through with “GOD'S PLAN”
only helps to establish that it was God's plan to begin with.And yes, I would guess we all get cold feet when it comes to our mortality.
As a muslim, you are expected to believe that somebody died in Jesus place,
would it not be easier to believe Jesus died in YOUR place? And if not why not?Ed
Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,08:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2013,14:48) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,18:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2013,12:03) Quote 5. God wanted him to be his sacrifice;He followed.
*Gods gift* to us,to *PROOF* his *love* for us, is the sacrifice of his only begotten son.We *reject this gift*; we *reject God*.
Can you show me a single scripture where God says he wants HIS son to be a sacrifice?
I can, how about two?“Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour:
but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there
a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.” (John 12:27-28)“For God so loved the world, that he gave(sacrificed) his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the
world through him might be saved.” (John 3:16-17)Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of
the truth(Gospel of Jesus Christ), there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for sins.Ed
ED How is that a quot from God?I said show me were it says “GOD SAID” and you have not done it.
Plus you claim the phrase “Gave His only begotten son means sacrificed His only begotten son.
First off, did Jesus ask to be saved? Did he in fact say these words?
from Matthew 26:39
…..“My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”…..
Why is it reported he said “Take this cup from me”?
Which is asking to be saved if at all possible.
So did Jesus say “if it IS POSSIBLE, May this cup be taken from me”?
Did Jesus directly say this YES or NO *please only answer yes or no to that question ED
Hi BD,You are trying to make a point, but the point that you are
trying to make “PROVES” that Gospel story was God's plan,
which is the very point you are working to ignore or diminish.In John 12:27-28, it clearly shows it to be God's plan from the beginning.
So Jesus getting cold-feet about going through with “GOD'S PLAN”
only helps to establish that it was God's plan to begin with.And yes, I would guess we all get cold feet when it comes to our mortality.
As a muslim, you are expected to believe that somebody died in Jesus place,
would it not be easier to believe Jesus died in YOUR place? And if not why not?Ed
I guess unlike me you culdn't give a straight answer.Why did God say:
Hosea 6:6
For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.Why did Jesus say:
Matthew 9:13
But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”Yet you insist God desired the sacrifice of His “son”
What did Paul say:
Romans 12:1
[ A Living Sacrifice ] Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship.Now Muslim say Jesus is a LIVING SACRIFICE because GOD had MERCY on him.
You prefer the Sacrifice over the Mercy and the dead over the LIVING?
2 Kings 24:3-4
New International Version (NIV)
3 Surely these things happened to Judah according to the Lord’s command, in order to remove them from his presence because of the sins of Manasseh and all he had done, 4 including the shedding of innocent blood. For he had filled Jerusalem with innocent blood, and the Lord was not willing to forgive.
Yet you accuse God of sheddng innocent blood an believe he condemned the guiltless.
NO, I prefer atonement for our sin.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:56) NO, I prefer atonement for our sin. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
“God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,
to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that
are past, through the forbearance of God;” (Rom 3:25)Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:59) If you reject God's offer, who do you have to pay your sin debt?
Why not just excuse the Atheist too?Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:56) NO, I prefer atonement for our sin. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.How does on receive this atonement?
Leviticus 16:10
But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.No BLOODSHED REQUIRED
Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:00) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:59) If you reject God's offer, who do you have to pay your sin debt?
Why not just excuse the Atheist too?
Repentance for the remission of sinDoes the crucifixion of Jesus is ANY WAY AT ALL remove the qualification of REPENTANCE for the REMISSION of SIN?
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,15:09) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:56) NO, I prefer atonement for our sin. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
Hebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.How does on receive this atonement?
“believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;” (Romans 4:24)Who raised Jesus from the dead? – My God is that one! Who is your god?
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,15:11) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:00) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:59) If you reject God's offer, who do you have to pay your sin debt?
Why not just excuse the Atheist too?
Repentance for the remission of sinDoes the crucifixion of Jesus is ANY WAY AT ALL remove the qualification of REPENTANCE for the REMISSION of SIN?
“without the shedding of blood there is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:36) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,15:11) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:00) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:59) If you reject God's offer, who do you have to pay your sin debt?
Why not just excuse the Atheist too?
Repentance for the remission of sinDoes the crucifixion of Jesus is ANY WAY AT ALL remove the qualification of REPENTANCE for the REMISSION of SIN?
“without the shedding of blood there is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)
Does the crucifixion of Jesus is ANY WAY AT ALL remove the qualification of REPENTANCE for the REMISSION of SIN?
You didn't answer. You also misquoted:Hebrews 9:22
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
The scripture says
Mark 1:4
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.Hebrews 10:17
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
17 and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Have you never sinned sinceyou became a Christian?
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,16:06) Have you never sinned sinceyou became a Christian?
Hi BD,Yea, a few times.
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ
the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only,
but also for the sins of the whole world (this would include muslims who repent).” (1 John 2:1-2)Ed
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,16:06) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:36) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,15:11) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:00) Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,14:59) If you reject God's offer, who do you have to pay your sin debt?
Why not just excuse the Atheist too?
Repentance for the remission of sinDoes the crucifixion of Jesus is ANY WAY AT ALL remove the qualification of REPENTANCE for the REMISSION of SIN?
“without the shedding of blood there is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)
Does the crucifixion of Jesus is ANY WAY AT ALL remove the qualification of REPENTANCE for the REMISSION of SIN?
You didn't answer. You also misquoted:Hebrews 9:22
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
The scripture says
Mark 1:4
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.Hebrews 10:17
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
17 and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Have you never sinned sinceyou became a Christian?
Boditharta.Baptism is just symbolic; One goes in the water dirty,and comes out clean. But can always wallow in the mud again.
QUESTIONS:
1. Do muslems have babtism?
2. Muslems believe that Jesus is the Messiah;why dont they pray through jesus?
3. Why instead mention the prophet mohamad only?
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Christians dont mention *any of the prophets*, or apostles in their prayers; but pray *to God in Jesus name*.
Therefore recognising Gods Son also,of whom God has made him our mediator.Therefore hearing Gods words when he says;**NO MAN CAN COME TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME**;**I AM THE WAY**
YES; WHAT EVER JESUS SPEAKS;IS GOD SPEAKING THROUGH HIM; AND WE MUST LEARN TO LISTEN TO HIM.
NOT ONE JOT OF THE SCRIPTURES CAN BE *BROKEN BY MAN*wakeup..
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2013,18:49) If no one can com to God except through Jesus why did Jesus say:
BD, Wakeup did not say that, the Apostle John (who recorded Jesus own words) said it.Hi Wakeup,
Whenever there is something in the bible that BD disagrees with,
he just ignores it – pretending it isn't there. Only what is written
in the 'book of fraud' is what he considers truth, not the bible.“no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
Your brother
in Christ,
Ed JQuote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,19:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2013,18:49) If no one can com to God except through Jesus why did Jesus say:
BD, Wakeup did not say that, the Apostle John (who recorded Jesus own words) said it.Hi Wakeup,
Whenever there is something in the bible that BD disagrees with,
he just ignores it – pretending it isn't there. Only what is written
in the 'book of fraud' is what he considers truth, not the bible.“no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
Your brother
in Christ,
Ed J
“But there were FALSE PROPHETS also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you…
…And many shall follow their pernicious ways;
by reason of whom ↑ the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. (2 Peter 2:1…2)
I ask you Wakeup, does BD call the bible's Gospel 'evil' or no?
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