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- August 28, 2013 at 7:24 pm#356425carmelParticipantWakeup,Aug. wrote:
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Quote Same as gen.2 is just a summation of gen.1.
You need to tear out gen,1.Wakeup,
Genesis 1 is not regarding Adam specifically!
It is regarding MAN in general!
So it is telling us also something about JESUS!
Genesis 1:26And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: and let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts, and the whole earth, and every creeping creature that moveth upon the earth.
notice the above sentence is only a reference to the MAN not as male and female! SO THIS VERSE REGARDING THE DOMINION OF MAN. The woman is not included!
SO IT IS DEFINITELY REGARDING GOD'S DOMINION THROUGH THE MAN JESUS CHRIST! SATAN'S DREAM TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH!
WHEN JESUS LIVED AS MAN HE WAS THE SUPREME DOMINANT PERSON OVER ALL CREATION IN THOSE THREE YEARS OF HIS MISSION! ESPECIALLY CREEPING CREATURES, WHICH IS A REFERENCE TO THE DEVILS NOTICE AFTER HE SAID ON THE WHOLE EARTH, HE EMPHATICALLY SAID AGAIN: and every creeping creature that moveth upon the earth.
NOW READ THE FOLLOWING CHAPTERS!
Repetition:
And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: MALE AND FEMALE he created them. 28And God blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it,
AND RULE
SO THIS TIME IT IS NOT ONLY THE MAN WHO IS DOMINION, BUT BOTH MALE AND FEMALE! OK?
WHO IS RULING,? WHO IS DOMINION? MALE OR FEMALE, MAN OR WOMAN? OR BOTH?
SO AGAIN INCONSISTENCY!! BUT FOR A REASON! SO THERE IS MESSAGE!
over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and all living creatures that move upon the earth. THIS TIME HE NEVER MENTIONED CREEPING CREATURES!!!!
SO LEAVE GENESIS 1 FOR THE TIME BEING! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GENESIS 2 BECAUSE GENESIS 2 IS
SPECIFICALLY A REFERENCE TO ADAM AS THE FIRST LIVING SOUL! THE FIRST SON OF GOD! THE WOMAN IS NOT INVOLVED YET!
I repeat!
WE ARE DISCUSSING GENESIS 2!!!
GENESIS 2 MAN WAS CREATED FIRST!
GENESIS 1 MAN WAS CREATED LAST!
WHY THERE'S INCONSISTENCY?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
August 28, 2013 at 7:38 pm#356426carmelParticipantWakeup,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden to dress it and to keep it.
As you can see two of the same event repeated.Wakeup,
THE SCRIPTURE YOU POSTED ABOVE IS CORRUPTED!
NOW READ THE VERY OLD ONE WHICH I RELY ON!
8And the Lord God had planted a paradise of pleasure
FROM THE BEGINNING: THIS IS OMITTED IN YOURS!
AND THAT CONTAINS QUITE A BIT OF A TRUTH AND A MYSTERY!
wherein he placed man whom he had formed. HERE SCRIPTURE IS ONLY TELLING US WHAT GARDEN IT IS!
15And the Lord God took man, and put him into the paradise for pleasure, to dress it, and keep it
IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE IS SPECIFICALLY TELLING US WHAT GOD DID WITH THE MAN, SO IT IS NOT AS YOU SAID A REPETITION!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
August 28, 2013 at 9:34 pm#356431WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Aug. 29 2013,06:38) Wakeup,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden to dress it and to keep it.
As you can see two of the same event repeated.Wakeup,
THE SCRIPTURE YOU POSTED ABOVE IS CORRUPTED!
NOW READ THE VERY OLD ONE WHICH I RELY ON!
8And the Lord God had planted a paradise of pleasure
FROM THE BEGINNING: THIS IS OMITTED IN YOURS!
AND THAT CONTAINS QUITE A BIT OF A TRUTH AND A MYSTERY!
wherein he placed man whom he had formed. HERE SCRIPTURE IS ONLY TELLING US WHAT GARDEN IT IS!
15And the Lord God took man, and put him into the paradise for pleasure, to dress it, and keep it
IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE IS SPECIFICALLY TELLING US WHAT GOD DID WITH THE MAN, SO IT IS NOT AS YOU SAID A REPETITION!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Abe.Can you quote these two scriptures,I like to know what your bible says.
Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden to dress it and to keep it.
wakeup.
September 2, 2013 at 7:44 pm#356714carmelParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,21:11) [/quote] Wakeup,Aug. wrote:Quote QUOTE:
GOD ALMIGHTY BY, AND IN THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE,MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, TRANSFORMED ALL THE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS INTO DUST AND, INTEGRATED THEM IN THE RECREATION OF OUR WORLD!
UNQUOTE:NOT IN SCRIPTURE:
Wakeup,
AS ALWAYS YOU RUSH TO CONCLUSIONS!
THE FACT THAT YOU DON’T SEE THINGS IT DOESN’T MEAN THEY ARE NOT THERE!
ONCE LUCIFER REBELLED AND BECAME THE DIRECT OPPONENT TO GOD, HE HAD TO BE IN EVERY SENSE THE OPPOSITE OF GOD, !
SO:
GOD IS SPIRIT!
LUCIFER IS MATTER!
GOD IS GOOD!
LUCIFER IS EVIL!
GOD IS LIGHT !
LUCIFER IS DARKNESS!
GOD IS LIFE!
LUCIFER IS DEATH!
GOD IS ETERNAL!
LUCIFER IS MORTAL!
GOD IS HEAVENLY!
LUCIFER IS EARTHLY!
GOD IS ASSOCIATED WITH MAN!
LUCIFER IS ASSOCIATED WITH WOMAN!
NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT GOD OWNS ALL SPIRITS, SINCE HE IS SPIRIT!
SO GOD WITHOUT LUCIFER’S AWARENESS, TRANSFROMED LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS INTO MATTER!
LUCIFER WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE HIMSELF WAS CREATING THE WORLD!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT GOD IS WORKING IN US IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR AIMS!
BUT IN REALITY IT IS ALL THE TIME GOD WITHIN US! He is the only SOURCE OF ENERGY!READ:
1John 10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, OBVIOUS IF AS CHRISTIANS HE IS IN US, AND WE COMMITT SIN, IT WOULD BE SATAN’S SPIRIT THAT WORKS IN US, SIMPLY, GOD WOULD ALLOW HIM TO TAKE OVER,SINCE WE WOULD OPT TO DO SO! THAT’S OUR FREE WILL!
and his word is not in us. OK?
HIS WORD, JESUS CHRIST THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS NOT IN US OBVIOUS SATAN IS! NO?
JESUS HIMSELF SAID:
John 16:3No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 2, 2013 at 7:53 pm#356715bodhithartaParticipantQuote (carmel @ Aug. 25 2013,16:58) bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’ BD,
WHO IS THE LORD YOUR GOD
GIVE ME A DEFINITE CERTAINTY OF WHAT THE ABOVE MEANS!
I ASSURE YOU THAT WITHOUT REALIZING, YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF WITH THAT VERSE!
CHARLES
Sorry, I didn't see this.The LORD GOD is our Creator, we are to serve HIM alone!
September 3, 2013 at 4:37 am#356760WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Sep. 03 2013,06:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,21:11) [/quote] Wakeup,Aug. wrote:Quote QUOTE:
GOD ALMIGHTY BY, AND IN THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE,MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, TRANSFORMED ALL THE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS INTO DUST AND, INTEGRATED THEM IN THE RECREATION OF OUR WORLD!
UNQUOTE:NOT IN SCRIPTURE:
Wakeup,
AS ALWAYS YOU RUSH TO CONCLUSIONS!
THE FACT THAT YOU DON’T SEE THINGS IT DOESN’T MEAN THEY ARE NOT THERE!
ONCE LUCIFER REBELLED AND BECAME THE DIRECT OPPONENT TO GOD, HE HAD TO BE IN EVERY SENSE THE OPPOSITE OF GOD, !
SO:
GOD IS SPIRIT!
LUCIFER IS MATTER!
GOD IS GOOD!
LUCIFER IS EVIL!
GOD IS LIGHT !
LUCIFER IS DARKNESS!
GOD IS LIFE!
LUCIFER IS DEATH!
GOD IS ETERNAL!
LUCIFER IS MORTAL!
GOD IS HEAVENLY!
LUCIFER IS EARTHLY!
GOD IS ASSOCIATED WITH MAN!
LUCIFER IS ASSOCIATED WITH WOMAN!
NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT GOD OWNS ALL SPIRITS, SINCE HE IS SPIRIT!
SO GOD WITHOUT LUCIFER’S AWARENESS, TRANSFROMED LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS INTO MATTER!
LUCIFER WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE HIMSELF WAS CREATING THE WORLD!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT GOD IS WORKING IN US IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR AIMS!
BUT IN REALITY IT IS ALL THE TIME GOD WITHIN US! He is the only SOURCE OF ENERGY!READ:
1John 10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, OBVIOUS IF AS CHRISTIANS HE IS IN US, AND WE COMMITT SIN, IT WOULD BE SATAN’S SPIRIT THAT WORKS IN US, SIMPLY, GOD WOULD ALLOW HIM TO TAKE OVER,SINCE WE WOULD OPT TO DO SO! THAT’S OUR FREE WILL!
and his word is not in us. OK?
HIS WORD, JESUS CHRIST THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS NOT IN US OBVIOUS SATAN IS! NO?
JESUS HIMSELF SAID:
John 16:3No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.GOD IS SPIRIT!/Agree.
LUCIFER IS MATTER!/disagree.
GOD IS GOOD!/Agree.
LUCIFER IS EVIL!/Agree.
Lucifer was created a cherub full of wisdom,and he was not flesh and still is not flesh.
But his agenda for men is to go after the lust of the flesh. His system is based on this;the material.Lucifer started sinning in his heart before the earth was created. He was the accuser of our brethren the angel said,and he is now cast down to earth;woe to the earth.
wakeup.
September 4, 2013 at 2:20 am#356827WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Sep. 03 2013,06:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,21:11) [/quote] Wakeup,Aug. wrote:Quote QUOTE:
GOD ALMIGHTY BY, AND IN THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE,MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, TRANSFORMED ALL THE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS INTO DUST AND, INTEGRATED THEM IN THE RECREATION OF OUR WORLD!
UNQUOTE:NOT IN SCRIPTURE:
Wakeup,
AS ALWAYS YOU RUSH TO CONCLUSIONS!
THE FACT THAT YOU DON’T SEE THINGS IT DOESN’T MEAN THEY ARE NOT THERE!
ONCE LUCIFER REBELLED AND BECAME THE DIRECT OPPONENT TO GOD, HE HAD TO BE IN EVERY SENSE THE OPPOSITE OF GOD, !
SO:
GOD IS SPIRIT!
LUCIFER IS MATTER!
GOD IS GOOD!
LUCIFER IS EVIL!
GOD IS LIGHT !
LUCIFER IS DARKNESS!
GOD IS LIFE!
LUCIFER IS DEATH!
GOD IS ETERNAL!
LUCIFER IS MORTAL!
GOD IS HEAVENLY!
LUCIFER IS EARTHLY!
GOD IS ASSOCIATED WITH MAN!
LUCIFER IS ASSOCIATED WITH WOMAN!
NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT GOD OWNS ALL SPIRITS, SINCE HE IS SPIRIT!
SO GOD WITHOUT LUCIFER’S AWARENESS, TRANSFROMED LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS INTO MATTER!
LUCIFER WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE HIMSELF WAS CREATING THE WORLD!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT GOD IS WORKING IN US IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR AIMS!
BUT IN REALITY IT IS ALL THE TIME GOD WITHIN US! He is the only SOURCE OF ENERGY!READ:
1John 10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, OBVIOUS IF AS CHRISTIANS HE IS IN US, AND WE COMMITT SIN, IT WOULD BE SATAN’S SPIRIT THAT WORKS IN US, SIMPLY, GOD WOULD ALLOW HIM TO TAKE OVER,SINCE WE WOULD OPT TO DO SO! THAT’S OUR FREE WILL!
and his word is not in us. OK?
HIS WORD, JESUS CHRIST THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS NOT IN US OBVIOUS SATAN IS! NO?
JESUS HIMSELF SAID:
John 16:3No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
QUOTE:
NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER!
UNQUOTE:Are you serious, lucifer is transformed into matter?
You have no scriptures to back up all your claims.
Therefore,it is of no use.
Private interpretations is just that;your private picture.And to get to your picture;you have to dismiss many scriptures,and that exactly what you are doing. You are preaching another gospel,and another Jesus,inspired by demons.
wakeup.
September 9, 2013 at 7:36 pm#357237carmelParticipantWakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER! Wakeup,
READ AGAIN PROPERLY WHAT I POSTED!
NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT GOD OWNS ALL SPIRITS, SINCE HE IS SPIRIT!
THAT'S PURE LOGIC!
DIDN’T LUCIFER SAID I WANT TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH!
SO THE MOST HIGH IS SPIRIT AND THE FATHER OF IT!
AND ALSO LUCIFER, THE GOD OF THE WORLD, IS MATTER AND THE FATHER OF IT!
THAT'S PURE LOGIC!
NOW THE FIRST ADAM FELL AND DIED SPIRITUALLY!
THE SECOND ADAM DID NOT FALL!
WHAT DID THE SECOND ADAM HAVE WHICH THE FIRST ADAM DIDN'T, AND CONSEQUENTLY FELL? ANSWER!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 10, 2013 at 12:45 am#357267WakeupParticipantCharles:
*QUOTE:
NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER!
*UNQUOTE:—————————————————————–LUCIFER YOU SAY OWNS ALL MATTER? IS THE UNIVERSE ALSO SATAN?
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and *for thy pleasure* they are and were created.ALL THINGS(matter also) ARE CREATED BY HIM, AND FOR HIM.
—————————————————————–*QUOTE:
IN THE SAME WAY THAT GOD OWNS ALL SPIRITS, SINCE HE IS SPIRIT!
THAT'S PURE LOGIC! *UNQUOTE:—————————————————————–
IT'S YOUR LOGIC CHARLES.
GOD IS SPIRIT AND ALL HE CREATED IS HIS.
HE CREATED IT FOR HIS PLEASURE.HE CREATED SPIRIT AND MATTER. THE UNIVERSE WAS NOT SPIRIT TURNED INTO MATTER.
—————————————————————–*QUOTE:
DIDN’T LUCIFER SAID I WANT TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH!
SO THE MOST HIGH IS SPIRIT AND THE FATHER OF IT!
AND ALSO LUCIFER, THE GOD OF THE WORLD, IS MATTER AND THE FATHER OF IT!
THAT'S PURE LOGIC! *UNQUOTE:—————————————————————–
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an *angel of light*.
HE IS AN ANGEL OF DARKNESS *TRANFORMED* HIMSELF INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. *NOTHING MATERIAL*
ANGELS ARE SPIRIT CREATURES.
SATAN AS AN ANGEL IN HEAVEN SINNED ALREADY,
AND IS NOT TURNED INTO MATERIAL IN HEAVEN,IS HE?
HE IS SPIRIT AND STILL IS.
—————————————————————–
*QUOTE:
NOW THE FIRST ADAM FELL AND DIED SPIRITUALLY!
THE SECOND ADAM DID NOT FALL!
WHAT DID THE SECOND ADAM HAVE WHICH THE FIRST ADAM DIDN'T, AND CONSEQUENTLY FELL? ANSWER!
*UNQUOTE:—————————————————————–
THE FIRST ADAM BROKE THE BOND WITH GOD
AND BONDED TO SATAN.THE SECOND ADAM IS GOD'S, AND STAYED WITH GOD.
DESPITE THE TEMPTATION OF SATAN. A SPIRIT CREATURE TEMPTING A MAN OF THE FLESH.
NOT SOME *MATTER* TEMPTING JESUS.
YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR LOGIC FROM THE LAND
OF OZ.
IS MATTER WHISPERING IN YOUR EAR SAYING;
LET'S GO AND STEAL,OR LET'S COMMIT FORNICATION?
IS YOUR CONSCIENCE WHISPERING; MATTER?
CAN THE IDOL SAY TO YOU, COME AND WORSHIP ME?
—————————————————————–wakeup.
September 20, 2013 at 7:46 pm#358227carmelParticipantQuote LUCIFER YOU SAY OWNS ALL MATTER? IS THE UNIVERSE ALSO SATAN? WAKEUP,
FIRST AND FOREMOST SATAN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LUCIFER!
ALTHOUGH HE IS HIS ORIGIN!
AFTER THE REBEL, LUCIFER'S SPIRIT, WAS SEPARATED FROM HIS SPIRITUAL BODY, AND ABIDED IN FIRE, IN THE CENTRE OF THE WORLD! AS SATAN!
LUCIFER'S SPIRITUAL BODY BECAME MATTER THROUGH SIN! OUR WORLD!
SO WHEN YOU REFLECT:
LUCIFER SPIRIT BODY (THE WORLD) HAD A SPIRIT (SATAN) WITHIN HIM, WITHIN THIS SPIRIT WAS THE WORD HIDDEN! THE FIRE IN THE CENTRE OF THE WORLD!
Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thy iniquities, and by the iniquity of thy traffic: therefore I will bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, to devour thee, and I will make thee as ashes upon the earth in the sight of all that see thee.
I, (GOD HIMSELF) AS THE WORD, WILL BRING FORTH A FIRE( GOD’S ATTRIBUTE) FROM THE MIDST OF YOU ( EARTH) TO DEVOUR YOU!
SO SATAN IS DEVOURED BY GOD! AS FIRE!LUCIFER WAS THE VERY FIRST VESSEL FOR GOD ALMIGHTY TO ABIDE WITHIN!
HE WAS THE FIRST EVER IMAGE OF GOD!
HE WAS THE FIRST EVER CREATOR FOR GOD, IN GOD, AND WITH GOD!
THEREFORE WHEN LUCIFER WAS CREATED, WITHIN HIMSELF HAD THE ENTIRE CREATION! BOTH SPIRITS, AND MATTER, BOTH GOOD AND EVIL, BOTH LIGHT AND DARKNESS! THEREFORE TWO OPPOSING SPIRITS PERFECTLY BALANCED!
GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF AS THE WORD, THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD WAS HIDDEN WITHIN LUCIFER, HE HUMBLED HIMSELF AND FUNCTIONED AS A CREATED GOD! SO ALL ATTRIBUTES OF GOD WERE IN LUCIFER! BUT NOT HIS! GOD’S!
THE SAME THING WITH US, WE HAVE GOD’S ATTRIBUTES IN RELATION TO OUR CARNAL ENTITIES!
NOW THERE ARE TWO OPPOSING PROCESSES TO ESTABLISH MATTER!
ONE THROUGH GOD’S LOVE AND WISDOM , WHICH IS ALSO REVERSIBLE BACK TO SPIRIT ANY TIME AND INSTANTLY AS SOON AS GOD PRONOUNCES HIS WORD! GOD’S WILL!
AND ANOTHER AUTOMATICALLY THROUGH SIN THOUGH!
BUT REVERSIBLE BACK TO SPIRIT, ONLY THROUGH PUNISHMENT AND REHABILITATION PROCESS FIRST,
THEN THROUGH GOD’S LOVE, GRACE, AND MERCY,AND WITHOUT THE AWARENESS OF THE RESPECTIVE CREATURES, SIMPLY THROUGH THEIR OWN FREE WILL!
THEREFORE:
IT SEEMS A NEVER ENDING STORY CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT IT TAKES AEONS!
THIS FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT ONLY WHEN THESE SINFULL CREATURESS HUMBLY ADMIT THEIR OWN EVIL DEEDS, AND ASK FORGIVENESS!
LIKE WHAT THE PRODIGAL SON DID ! AND GOD WOULD NOT ONLY ACCEPT THEM, BUT HE WOULD EVEN GLORIFY THEM!
NOW REFLECT ON THIS STATEMENT FROM JESUS:
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
NOW FROM THE ABOVE STATEMENT WE ARE AWARE THAT ON EARTH, IT IS NOT BEING DONE THE WILL OF GOD! NO?
BUT THIS IS A CONTRADICTION IN ITSELF, IT IS A PARADOXICAL STATEMENT, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT NOTHING COULD BE DONE ANYWHERE AND ANYTIME, WITHOUT GOD’S WILL!
SO THE FACT THAT THIS MATERIAL WORLD EXISTS, IN ALL ITS EVIL DEEDS AND IT IS ALSO THE ABODE OF SATAN AND HIS DEMONS IN THE CENTRE OF THE WORLD, IT IS DEFINITELY THROUGH GOD’S WILL
SO JESUS’ STATEMENT IS SIMPLY DECLARING, THAT:
THE WILL OF GOD, THROUGH THE WORD ESTABLISHED MATTER BOTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN, LIKE THE SUN AND THE STARS ARE, OBVIOUS THROUGH HIS ANGELS,THEREFORE HOLY, THE MANIFESTATION OF LIGHT, THROUGH GOD’S LOVE AND WISDOM, AND ALSO:
ON EARTH, IN OUR GALAXY, AND ON OTHER EVIL PLANETS IN THE UNIVERSE! GOD’S ENEMIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF PUNISHMENT, AND REAHABILTATION!
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF MATTERS, ONE HOLY, THE LIGHT MATTER AND ANOTHER EVIL, THE DARKNESS MATTER BUT ALTHOUGH THEY ARE OPPOSITE TO EACH OTHER, THEY ARE BOTH ACCORDING TO GOD’S WILL!
NOW THROUGH JESUS’ DEATH, SINCE JESUS WAS BORN, LIVED, DIED, AND ASLO GLORIFIED ON THIS MORTAL DARKNESS MATERIAL WORLD, THERE’S NOTHING ON, AND WITHIN THIS EARTH WHICH WILL NOT ONE DAY BE REDEEMED,AND BECOME HOLY INCLUDING SATAN HIMSELF! BUT IT’S UP TO HIM TO ADMIT HIS EVIL DEEDS, AND ASK FORGIVENESS!
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALL THE ENTIRE CREATURES IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE MUST ENTER THIS WORLD, AND INCARNATE IN HUMAN BODY IN ORDER TO BE REDEEMED, AND TO BE ALL IN CHRIST, AND PART OF HIS MYSTICAL BODY, GOD’S KINGDOM!
DUE TO THE FACT THAT GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ONLY ON THIS EARTH, WHICH IS LUCIFER’S ENTITY THE FIRST EVER CREATED SON OF GOD! AND THROUGH LUCIFER ALL WAS CREATED!
KEEP IN MIND THAT LUCIFER WAS CREATED BY THE WORD, IN THE WORD, AND FOR THE WORD
FOR GOD, MATTER COUNTS FOR NOTHING, IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKEN!
Quote Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and *for thy pleasure* they are and were created.
ALL THINGS(matter also) ARE CREATED BY HIM, AND FOR HIM.ALL THINGS IS A REFERENCE TO BOTH GOOD AND EVIL!
READ:
COLOSSIANS 3:11……………….. But Christ is all, and in all.
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF CHRIST IS ALL, AND IN ALL?
ISN’T IT AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL THAT JESUS AS THE WORD THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR GOD IS ALL
THE ENTIRE CREATION,
AND IN ALL
THE ENTIRE CREATION?
THEREFORE LUCIFER/SATAN HIMSELF! IS PART OF ALL CREATION
SO CHRIST, AS THE WORD IS IN LUCIFER/SATAN! DOING GOD’S WILL!
LUCIFER WAS AND STILL IS A FUNDAMENTAL ASPECT FOR GOD'S KINGDOM!
REFLECT:
TO ERADICATE EVIL, EVIL MUST BE ESTABLISHED!
TO JUSTIFY RIGHTEOUSNESS, EVIL MUST BE ESTABLISHED!
TO GLORIFY OVER EVIL, EVIL MUST BE ESTABLISHED!
NOW READ THIS REVELATION!
And God showed that sin will be no shame, but honour to man, for just as there is indeed a corresponding pain for every sin, just so love gives to the same soul a bliss for every sin. Just as various sins are punished with various pains, the more grievous are the sins, so will they be rewarded with various joys in heaven to reward the victories over them, to the degree in which the sin may have been painful and sorrowful to the soul of the earth.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 22, 2013 at 10:38 pm#358446WakeupParticipantcarmel.
This is totally *out* of the scripures.
I dont know wat you have studied,but its a mixture
of doctrines that is outside the bible.
What is that book you are reading may I ask?wakeup.
September 23, 2013 at 3:28 am#358473WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Sep. 03 2013,06:44) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,21:11) [/quote] Wakeup,Aug. wrote:Quote QUOTE:
GOD ALMIGHTY BY, AND IN THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE,MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, TRANSFORMED ALL THE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS INTO DUST AND, INTEGRATED THEM IN THE RECREATION OF OUR WORLD!
UNQUOTE:NOT IN SCRIPTURE:
Wakeup,
AS ALWAYS YOU RUSH TO CONCLUSIONS!
THE FACT THAT YOU DON’T SEE THINGS IT DOESN’T MEAN THEY ARE NOT THERE!
ONCE LUCIFER REBELLED AND BECAME THE DIRECT OPPONENT TO GOD, HE HAD TO BE IN EVERY SENSE THE OPPOSITE OF GOD, !
SO:
GOD IS SPIRIT!
LUCIFER IS MATTER!
GOD IS GOOD!
LUCIFER IS EVIL!
GOD IS LIGHT !
LUCIFER IS DARKNESS!
GOD IS LIFE!
LUCIFER IS DEATH!
GOD IS ETERNAL!
LUCIFER IS MORTAL!
GOD IS HEAVENLY!
LUCIFER IS EARTHLY!
GOD IS ASSOCIATED WITH MAN!
LUCIFER IS ASSOCIATED WITH WOMAN!
NOW IN ORDER FOR LUCIFER, a spirit, TO OWN ALL MATTER, HE HAD TO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MATTER!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT GOD OWNS ALL SPIRITS, SINCE HE IS SPIRIT!
SO GOD WITHOUT LUCIFER’S AWARENESS, TRANSFROMED LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS INTO MATTER!
LUCIFER WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE HIMSELF WAS CREATING THE WORLD!
IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT GOD IS WORKING IN US IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR AIMS!
BUT IN REALITY IT IS ALL THE TIME GOD WITHIN US! He is the only SOURCE OF ENERGY!READ:
1John 10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, OBVIOUS IF AS CHRISTIANS HE IS IN US, AND WE COMMITT SIN, IT WOULD BE SATAN’S SPIRIT THAT WORKS IN US, SIMPLY, GOD WOULD ALLOW HIM TO TAKE OVER,SINCE WE WOULD OPT TO DO SO! THAT’S OUR FREE WILL!
and his word is not in us. OK?
HIS WORD, JESUS CHRIST THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS NOT IN US OBVIOUS SATAN IS! NO?
JESUS HIMSELF SAID:
John 16:3No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.Please come back to the word of God.
Feed your self on the word of God,
which *is the flesh of Christ*.
We dont need another book *ABOUT* the Holy bible.***Dont go for swine flesh***.
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, **tossed to and fro**,
and carried about with every **wind of doctrine**,
**by the sleight of men**,
**and cunning craftiness**,
***whereby they lie in wait to deceive***;Colossians 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;)
after the **commandments and doctrines of men**?1 Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,
***and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine***;
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,
***giving heed to seducing spirits***,
****and doctrines of devils****;2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and **is profitable for doctrine**,
**for reproof, for correction**,
**for instruction in righteousness**:2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, **exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine**.
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they ***will not endure sound doctrine***;
but ***after their own lusts***
***shall they heap to themselves teachers***, having itching ears;Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by **sound doctrine** both to exhort and *to convince the gainsayers*.
Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become **sound doctrine**:
Titus 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works:
*** in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity***,Hebrews 13:9 ****Be not carried about with divers and ****strange doctrines****.
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and ***abideth not in the doctrine of Christ***, hath not God.
He that ***abideth in the doctrine of Christ***, he hath both the Father and the Son.Revelation 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this **doctrine**,
and which have ***not known the depths of Satan***,
as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.wakeup.
September 23, 2013 at 7:57 pm#358505carmelParticipantWakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote This is totally *out* of the scripures. Wakeup,
IT'S NO USE TO SAY SO, UNLESS YOU POST WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS NOT SCRIPTURAL!
AS I SAID TO ME IS ALL SCRIPTURAL!
ALSO:
I AM READING VARIOUS REVELATIONS, NOT JUST ONE!
THESE WERE REVEALED FOR US TO SCRUTINIZE!
WE MUST READ ALL REVELATIONS DUE TO THE FACT THAT GOD NEVER STOPPED REVEALING HIS MYSTERIES!
I AM WAITING FOR YOU TO POST SOMETHING FROM MY POST WHICH IS NOT WITH SCRIPTURES, THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE THAT I AM RIGHT!
AGAIN:
THE SPIRIT BLOWS WHERE HE WANTS, AND NO ONE KNOWS WHERE HE CAME FROM AND WHERE HE GOES!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 23, 2013 at 10:11 pm#358509WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Sep. 24 2013,06:57) Wakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote This is totally *out* of the scripures. Wakeup,
IT'S NO USE TO SAY SO, UNLESS YOU POST WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS NOT SCRIPTURAL!
AS I SAID TO ME IS ALL SCRIPTURAL!
ALSO:
I AM READING VARIOUS REVELATIONS, NOT JUST ONE!
THESE WERE REVEALED FOR US TO SCRUTINIZE!
WE MUST READ ALL REVELATIONS DUE TO THE FACT THAT GOD NEVER STOPPED REVEALING HIS MYSTERIES!
I AM WAITING FOR YOU TO POST SOMETHING FROM MY POST WHICH IS NOT WITH SCRIPTURES, THAT WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE THAT I AM RIGHT!
AGAIN:
THE SPIRIT BLOWS WHERE HE WANTS, AND NO ONE KNOWS WHERE HE CAME FROM AND WHERE HE GOES!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.Can you quote the scriptures with the chapters and verses
included?How many revelations are there?
wakeup.
September 24, 2013 at 8:13 pm#358588carmelParticipantWakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Can you quote the scriptures with the chapters and verses
included?How many revelations are there?
Wakeup,
YOU STATED THAT THEY ARE OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES!
SO YOU WRITE WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES, THEN I WILL CONTRADICT YOU OR NOT ACCORDINGLY!
I AM WAITING!
THERE ARE TONS OF REVELATIONS, AND ALSO TO DIFFERENT PERSONS, AND IN DIFFERENT TIMES!
Most of them were purposely kept hidden.But now in this age of IT. are being spread very fast, and also creating rather a revolution in the way that we should reflect regarding our creation, and also in the beyond!
So revelations must be searched, and must all be read, and scrutinized for the simple reason that through the ages loads of various scriptures were written, and still are, and created, and still creating myriad distortions through translations, and new versions, also were and are being written by people more interested in their own pride, interest, and worldly wisdom then God's truth! Which has nothing to do with God's wisdom!
So God up to this day, is still revealing both the truth, and new revelations, since humans advanced in their spiritual maturity. God never allows his honest children to be robbed of the truth!
Peace an Love in Jesus
Charles
September 25, 2013 at 9:58 am#358658WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Sep. 25 2013,07:13) Wakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Can you quote the scriptures with the chapters and verses
included?How many revelations are there?
Wakeup,
YOU STATED THAT THEY ARE OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES!
SO YOU WRITE WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES, THEN I WILL CONTRADICT YOU OR NOT ACCORDINGLY!
I AM WAITING!
THERE ARE TONS OF REVELATIONS, AND ALSO TO DIFFERENT PERSONS, AND IN DIFFERENT TIMES!
Most of them were purposely kept hidden.But now in this age of IT. are being spread very fast, and also creating rather a revolution in the way that we should reflect regarding our creation, and also in the beyond!
So revelations must be searched, and must all be read, and scrutinized for the simple reason that through the ages loads of various scriptures were written, and still are, and created, and still creating myriad distortions through translations, and new versions, also were and are being written by people more interested in their own pride, interest, and worldly wisdom then God's truth! Which has nothing to do with God's wisdom!
So God up to this day, is still revealing both the truth, and new revelations, since humans advanced in their spiritual maturity. God never allows his honest children to be robbed of the truth!
Peace an Love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel this is what I have to say to your
**multi** revelations.Revelation 22:18 **For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book**,
***If any man shall add unto these things***,
***God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book***:
Revelation 22:19 **And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy**,
**God shall take away his part out of the book of life**,
**and out of the holy city**,**and from the things which are written in this book**.
Revelation 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. **Amen**. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Satan has obviously been doing his job to confuse the many.
wakeup.
September 25, 2013 at 7:02 pm#358666carmelParticipantWakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote ***If any man shall add unto these things***, Wakeup,
COMPLETE NEW REVELATIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT ALREADY REVEALED IN AN OTHER REVELATION!
JESUS HIMSELF STATED IN:
Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you.
8For every one that asketh, receiveth:
CLEAR ENOUGH WHOEVER ASKS GOD WOULD RECEIVE HIS REVELATIONS NO?
and he that seeketh, findeth:
WHOEVER SEEKS FINDS NEW REVELATIONS NO?
and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened.
AND WHOEVER KNOCKS , MUST KNOCKS TO DISCOVER NEW THINGS, WHICH NEVER HAD BEEN REVEALED, OR TO BE AWARE OF THE TRUTH WHICH HAD BEEN DISTORTED THROUGH LOADS OF TRANSLATIONS OF THE SCRIPTURES! NO?
WHY WOULD SOMEONE ASKS, SEEKS, AND KNOCKS, IF NOT FOR SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT GIVEN BEFORE, AND NOT FOR SOMETHING WHICH IS DISTORTED THROUGH SATAN'S MANOEUVRINGS?
HE ALSO STATED IN
Matthew 13:52 He said unto them: Therefore every scribe instructed in the kingdom of heaven,
WHO IS THE SCRIBE INSTRUCTED IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IN RELATION TO OUR TIME?
AREN'T THEY ALL THOSE WHO RECEIVED NEW REVELATIONS AND WROTE THEM FOR US TO READ AND SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH WITHIN?
is like to a man that is a householder, who bringeth forth out of his treasure new things and old.
CLEAR ENOUGH NO! SO WHO ARE THESE SCRIBES( WRITERS) WHO ARE LIKE A MAN THAT IS A HOUSEHOLDER, WHO BRINGS FORTH OUT NEW THINGS AND OLD
SO HE REVEAL NEW TRUTHS, AND CLARIFY OLD AND DISTORTED ONES
ALSO AS I SAID POST WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS NOT SCRIPTURAL!
I AM WAITING!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 26, 2013 at 5:25 am#358743WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Sep. 26 2013,06:02) Wakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote ***If any man shall add unto these things***, Wakeup,
COMPLETE NEW REVELATIONS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT ALREADY REVEALED IN AN OTHER REVELATION!
JESUS HIMSELF STATED IN:
Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you.
8For every one that asketh, receiveth:
CLEAR ENOUGH WHOEVER ASKS GOD WOULD RECEIVE HIS REVELATIONS NO?
and he that seeketh, findeth:
WHOEVER SEEKS FINDS NEW REVELATIONS NO?
and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened.
AND WHOEVER KNOCKS , MUST KNOCKS TO DISCOVER NEW THINGS, WHICH NEVER HAD BEEN REVEALED, OR TO BE AWARE OF THE TRUTH WHICH HAD BEEN DISTORTED THROUGH LOADS OF TRANSLATIONS OF THE SCRIPTURES! NO?
WHY WOULD SOMEONE ASKS, SEEKS, AND KNOCKS, IF NOT FOR SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT GIVEN BEFORE, AND NOT FOR SOMETHING WHICH IS DISTORTED THROUGH SATAN'S MANOEUVRINGS?
HE ALSO STATED IN
Matthew 13:52 He said unto them: Therefore every scribe instructed in the kingdom of heaven,
WHO IS THE SCRIBE INSTRUCTED IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IN RELATION TO OUR TIME?
AREN'T THEY ALL THOSE WHO RECEIVED NEW REVELATIONS AND WROTE THEM FOR US TO READ AND SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH WITHIN?
is like to a man that is a householder, who bringeth forth out of his treasure new things and old.
CLEAR ENOUGH NO! SO WHO ARE THESE SCRIBES( WRITERS) WHO ARE LIKE A MAN THAT IS A HOUSEHOLDER, WHO BRINGS FORTH OUT NEW THINGS AND OLD
SO HE REVEAL NEW TRUTHS, AND CLARIFY OLD AND DISTORTED ONES
ALSO AS I SAID POST WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS NOT SCRIPTURAL!
I AM WAITING!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.The book of revelation is the revealing of things **to come** in the **last days**. Its *not old*
as you claim to be.
One does not need to invent new revelations.
It would be not of God,but of some other source.Dont ignore what is written in this book!
One can not add, nor take away anything of this book.Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man ***SHALL ADD*** UNTO THESE THINGS, ***God shall add unto him*** the **plagues that are written in this book**:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall ***TAKE AWAY** from the words of the book ***of this prophecy***, God shall **take away his part out of the book of life**, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
You are adding *other* revelations to this book,
which is written by men.AREN'T THEY ALL THOSE WHO RECEIVED NEW REVELATIONS AND WROTE THEM FOR US TO READ AND SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH WITHIN? UNQUOTE:
There are no more new revelations.It says *AMEN*.
Seek what is there provided by God,and you will find,
new understanding,more wisdom,MORE REVELATIONS(REVEALINGS).
New hidden mysteries God will reveal to us seekers.So dont heap up more doctrines inspired by devils.
None in your post is pure scriptural.
They have been *BADLY*distorted.wakeup.
September 26, 2013 at 6:27 am#358752carmelParticipantWakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote The book of revelation is the revealing of things **to come** in the **last days**. Its *not old* That revelation WAS WRITTEN TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO AND IT IS MASSACRED THROUGH TRANSLATIONS, ALTERATIONS, INTERPRETATIONS! AND WORLDLY CORRUPTED WISDOM WHICH ONLY ESTABLISHED HOAXES!
THEREFORE THAT REVELATION NEEDED CLARIFICATION BY GOD ONLY!
THROUGH THESE YEARS GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH IN THAT REVELATION!
THAT REVELATION COVERS THE CREATION OF ALL EXISTENCE, THE REDEMPTION OF ALL THE ENEMIES OF GOD, AND THE GLORIFICATION OF THE ENTIRE CREATION IN JESUS CHRIST'S MYSTICAL BODY!
NO ONE ON EARTH IS CAPABLE TO DISCERN THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WISDOM THROUGH CORRUPTED MORTAL CARNAL SATANIC WORLDLY WISDOM!
1 Corinthians 19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject.
THEREFORE REVELATIONS ARE TO BE SEARCHED, AND READ, THEN PRAY GOD TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR HEART, WHICH IS LOVE FOR GOD ONLY
Matthew 7:11 If you then being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children:
HOW MUCH MORE WILL YOUR FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN, GIVE THINGS TO THEM THAT ASK HIM?
ASK AND IT WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU!
SINCE JOHN'S REVELATION WAS WRITTEN ONLY IN GOD'S WISDOM!
20Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe.
SO I AM WAITING FOR YOU TO POST WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS NOT SCRIPTURAL OR ELSE QUIT!
AFTER ALL YOU ARE CONVINCED REGARDING YOUR WISDOM! NO?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 26, 2013 at 2:05 pm#358763WakeupParticipantQuote (carmel @ Sep. 26 2013,17:27) Wakeup,Sep. wrote:[/quote]
Quote The book of revelation is the revealing of things **to come** in the **last days**. Its *not old* That revelation WAS WRITTEN TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO AND IT IS MASSACRED THROUGH TRANSLATIONS, ALTERATIONS, INTERPRETATIONS! AND WORLDLY CORRUPTED WISDOM WHICH ONLY ESTABLISHED HOAXES!
THEREFORE THAT REVELATION NEEDED CLARIFICATION BY GOD ONLY!
THROUGH THESE YEARS GOD REVEALED THE TRUTH IN THAT REVELATION!
THAT REVELATION COVERS THE CREATION OF ALL EXISTENCE, THE REDEMPTION OF ALL THE ENEMIES OF GOD, AND THE GLORIFICATION OF THE ENTIRE CREATION IN JESUS CHRIST'S MYSTICAL BODY!
NO ONE ON EARTH IS CAPABLE TO DISCERN THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WISDOM THROUGH CORRUPTED MORTAL CARNAL SATANIC WORLDLY WISDOM!
1 Corinthians 19 For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the prudence of the prudent I will reject.
THEREFORE REVELATIONS ARE TO BE SEARCHED, AND READ, THEN PRAY GOD TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR HEART, WHICH IS LOVE FOR GOD ONLY
Matthew 7:11 If you then being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children:
HOW MUCH MORE WILL YOUR FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN, GIVE THINGS TO THEM THAT ASK HIM?
ASK AND IT WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU!
SINCE JOHN'S REVELATION WAS WRITTEN ONLY IN GOD'S WISDOM!
20Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe.
SO I AM WAITING FOR YOU TO POST WHAT ACCORDING TO YOU IS NOT SCRIPTURAL OR ELSE QUIT!
AFTER ALL YOU ARE CONVINCED REGARDING YOUR WISDOM! NO?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.Your whole doctrine is unscriptural.
You only use the scriptures here,and there,
to support your misconceptions.That's what they all do.
Inventing new explanations to cover the gaps.
Then attacking the bible it self.
Saying it's corrupted.
Who is the judge to determine what is, and what is not corrupted? is it your masters?Then attacking the translation.
You need to get out of that trap,as soon as
possible.Before its too late.
Feed on the flesh of Christ only.wakeup.
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