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    Ed J
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:32)
    Hi Wakeup,

    It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
    in the bible?
    But that seems to be the question you are answering.   ???

    Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”  
    I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.

    Ed J


    Hi EdJ.

    Jesus said ye; speaking to the crowd.
    That makes us also gods.
    We know what is good and evil;and we can make our own decisions.We can choose how to live our lives.
    We also can create things.
    We are the children of God,and that makes us gods,with a conscience.

    wakeup.


    So, is that a “Yes”?

    #355286
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,02:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:32)
    Hi Wakeup,

    It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
    in the bible?
    But that seems to be the question you are answering.   ???

    Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”  
    I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.

    Ed J


    Hi EdJ.

    Jesus said ye; speaking to the crowd.
    That makes us also gods.
    We know what is good and evil;and we can make our own decisions.We can choose how to live our lives.
    We also can create things.
    We are the children of God,and that makes us gods,with a conscience.

    wakeup.


    So, is that a “Yes”?


    Edj.

    ???? I have answered.
    We are the children of God;and that makes us gods.
    Jesus said;*ye are gods*;why would you say I blaspheme for saying; I am the son of God?

    An arab family will have arab children,they will do what the arabs do.

    Jesus is the only begotten son of God;he is the image of God in the flesh,for God dwells in him.
    The *spirit* of God can *also* dwell in us;
    and when that is the case;then we will do his works.

    This is of our own choice. *We make the decision*.

    wakeup.

    #355290
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,11:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,02:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:32)
    Hi Wakeup,

    It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
    in the bible?
    But that seems to be the question you are answering.   ???

    Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”  
    I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.

    Ed J


    Hi EdJ.

    Jesus said ye; speaking to the crowd.
    That makes us also gods.
    We know what is good and evil;and we can make our own decisions.We can choose how to live our lives.
    We also can create things.
    We are the children of God,and that makes us gods,with a conscience.

    wakeup.


    So, is that a “Yes”?


    Edj.

    ???? I have answered.
    We are the children of God;and that makes us gods.
    Jesus said;*ye are gods*;why would you say I blaspheme for saying; I am the son of God?

    An arab family will have arab children,they will do what the arabs do.

    Jesus is the only begotten son of God;he is the image of God in the flesh,for God dwells in him.
    The *spirit* of God can *also* dwell in us;
    and when that is the case;then we will do his works.

    This is of our own choice. *We make the decision*.

    wakeup.


    So that's a “Yes” then right?

    #355320
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,12:18)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,11:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,02:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:32)
    Hi Wakeup,

    It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
    in the bible?
    But that seems to be the question you are answering.   ???

    Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”  
    I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.

    Ed J


    Hi EdJ.

    Jesus said ye; speaking to the crowd.
    That makes us also gods.
    We know what is good and evil;and we can make our own decisions.We can choose how to live our lives.
    We also can create things.
    We are the children of God,and that makes us gods,with a conscience.

    wakeup.


    So, is that a “Yes”?


    Edj.

    ???? I have answered.
    We are the children of God;and that makes us gods.
    Jesus said;*ye are gods*;why would you say I blaspheme for saying; I am the son of God?

    An arab family will have arab children,they will do what the arabs do.

    Jesus is the only begotten son of God;he is the image of God in the flesh,for God dwells in him.
    The *spirit* of God can *also* dwell in us;
    and when that is the case;then we will do his works.

    This is of our own choice. *We make the decision*.

    wakeup.


    So that's a “Yes” then right?


    Wow! So Wake up believes he is a god as well, this isa big thing here on this forum now I know why everyone wants Jesus to be God I mean if a god can be crucified then anyone can be a god.

    I am not a god, there is no god but GOD.

    Making decisions does not make someone “god”

    Do you think Jesus was approving of the scriptures when he said:

    John 10:33-35

    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    He is pointing out that there scriptures which they view as correct have already exceeded anything he has said

    #355340
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 16 2013,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,12:18)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,11:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,02:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:32)
    Hi Wakeup,

    It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
    in the bible?
    But that seems to be the question you are answering.   ???

    Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”  
    I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.

    Ed J


    Hi EdJ.

    Jesus said ye; speaking to the crowd.
    That makes us also gods.
    We know what is good and evil;and we can make our own decisions.We can choose how to live our lives.
    We also can create things.
    We are the children of God,and that makes us gods,with a conscience.

    wakeup.


    So, is that a “Yes”?


    Edj.

    ???? I have answered.
    We are the children of God;and that makes us gods.
    Jesus said;*ye are gods*;why would you say I blaspheme for saying; I am the son of God?

    An arab family will have arab children,they will do what the arabs do.

    Jesus is the only begotten son of God;he is the image of God in the flesh,for God dwells in him.
    The *spirit* of God can *also* dwell in us;
    and when that is the case;then we will do his works.

    This is of our own choice. *We make the decision*.

    wakeup.


    So that's a “Yes” then right?


    Wow! So Wake up believes he is a god as well, this isa big thing here on this forum now I know why everyone wants Jesus to be God I mean if a god can be crucified then anyone can be a god.

    I am not a god, there is no god but GOD.

    Making decisions does not make someone “god”

    Do you think Jesus was approving of the scriptures when he said:

    John 10:33-35

    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    He is pointing out that there scriptures which they view as correct have already exceeded anything he has said


    Boditharta.

    33. The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, *Is it not written* in your law, *I said*, Ye are gods? 35. If *HE* called them gods, UNTO WHOM THE *WORD OF GOD CAME*, AND THE **SCRIPTURES CAN NOT BE BROKEN**;

    *HE* CALLED THEM GODS. *THAT *HE* IS JESUS*.
    HE ALSO SAID IT: **I SAID** YE ARE GODS.

    BUT DONT TRY TO TWIST IT BY SAYING THAT WE ARE JEHOVAH GOD.
    WE ARE CREATED IN THE **IMAGE** OF GOD.
    WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? JESUS WAS ALSO CREATED IN THE *IMAGE* OF GOD, AND GOD DWELLETH IN HIM.

    GOD CAN ALSO DWELL IN US,IF WE LIVE AS JESUS.

    wakeup.

    #355365
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 17 2013,00:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 16 2013,15:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,12:18)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,11:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 16 2013,02:41)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 16 2013,01:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:32)
    Hi Wakeup,

    It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
    in the bible?
    But that seems to be the question you are answering.   ???

    Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”  
    I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.

    Ed J


    Hi EdJ.

    Jesus said ye; speaking to the crowd.
    That makes us also gods.
    We know what is good and evil;and we can make our own decisions.We can choose how to live our lives.
    We also can create things.
    We are the children of God,and that makes us gods,with a conscience.

    wakeup.


    So, is that a “Yes”?


    Edj.

    ???? I have answered.
    We are the children of God;and that makes us gods.
    Jesus said;*ye are gods*;why would you say I blaspheme for saying; I am the son of God?

    An arab family will have arab children,they will do what the arabs do.

    Jesus is the only begotten son of God;he is the image of God in the flesh,for God dwells in him.
    The *spirit* of God can *also* dwell in us;
    and when that is the case;then we will do his works.

    This is of our own choice. *We make the decision*.

    wakeup.


    So that's a “Yes” then right?


    Wow! So Wake up believes he is a god as well, this isa big thing here on this forum now I know why everyone wants Jesus to be God I mean if a god can be crucified then anyone can be a god.

    I am not a god, there is no god but GOD.

    Making decisions does not make someone “god”

    Do you think Jesus was approving of the scriptures when he said:

    John 10:33-35

    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    He is pointing out that there scriptures which they view as correct have already exceeded anything he has said


    Boditharta.

    33. The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, *Is it not written* in your law, *I said*, Ye are gods? 35. If *HE* called them gods, UNTO WHOM THE *WORD OF GOD CAME*, AND THE **SCRIPTURES CAN NOT BE BROKEN**;

    *HE* CALLED THEM GODS.  *THAT *HE* IS JESUS*.
    HE ALSO SAID IT:  **I SAID** YE ARE GODS.

    BUT DONT TRY TO TWIST IT BY SAYING THAT WE ARE JEHOVAH GOD.
    WE ARE CREATED IN THE **IMAGE** OF GOD.
    WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? JESUS WAS ALSO CREATED IN THE *IMAGE* OF GOD, AND GOD DWELLETH IN HIM.

    GOD CAN ALSO DWELL IN US,IF WE LIVE AS JESUS.

    wakeup.


    How are we disagreeing here?

    #355720
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,20:00)
    [/quote]

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,20:00)


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    JESUS WITHIN SATAN???  THIS IS NOT TRUE;FOR JESUS HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT, SINCE CONCEPTION. NO EVIL IS FOUND IN HIM.HE IS A PURE SACRIFICE;UNBLEMISHED.
    *********************************************

    Wakeup,

    I KNOW IT’S SOUNDS RATHER DREADFUL!

    BUT BEFORE I POST MY COMMENTS, REFLECT:

    ON THIS REVELATION!

    In what should MY OMNIPOTENCE be extolled, if I could not CONTAIN MYSELF WITHIN MYSELF WHATEVER  I AM, so that I AM only FELT or SEEN as is most SUITABLE for the TIME, PLACE and PERSON?

    For since the creation of Heaven and earth I have worked for the redemption of all, more by the wisdom of my BENIGNITY than by the power of my Majesty. And this benignity of wisdom shines most in my TOLERANCE towards the imperfect,

    ( SATAN/LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS, US)

    leading them, even by their own free will,

    ( BY THEIR OWN PLANS)

    into the way of perfection.

    IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ABOVE REVELATION WHICH IS NOT A REFEFRENCE TO GOD ALMIGHTY!

    BACK YOUR ANSWER WITH YOUR COMMENTS,

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #355721
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 20 2013,16:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,20:00)
    [/quote]

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,20:00)


    *********************************************
    JESUS WITHIN SATAN???  THIS IS NOT TRUE;FOR JESUS HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT, SINCE CONCEPTION. NO EVIL IS FOUND IN HIM.HE IS A PURE SACRIFICE;UNBLEMISHED.
    *********************************************

    Wakeup,

    I KNOW IT’S SOUNDS RATHER DREADFUL!

    BUT BEFORE I POST MY COMMENTS, REFLECT:

    ON THIS REVELATION!

    In what should MY OMNIPOTENCE be extolled, if I could not CONTAIN MYSELF WITHIN MYSELF WHATEVER  I AM, so that I AM only FELT or SEEN as is most SUITABLE for the TIME, PLACE and PERSON?

    For since the creation of Heaven and earth I have worked for the redemption of all, more by the wisdom of my BENIGNITY than by the power of my Majesty. And this benignity of wisdom shines most in my TOLERANCE towards the imperfect,

    ( SATAN/LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS, US)

    leading them, even by their own free will,

    ( BY THEIR OWN PLANS)

    into the way of perfection.

    IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ABOVE REVELATION WHICH IS NOT A REFEFRENCE TO GOD ALMIGHTY!

    BACK YOUR ANSWER WITH YOUR COMMENTS,

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Carmel.

    Can you please elaborate on
    this,your quote.

    Quote:
    SATAN/LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS, US)
    leading them, even by their own free will,

    wakeup.

    #355734
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 20 2013,16:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,20:00)
    [/quote]

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,20:00)


    *********************************************
    JESUS WITHIN SATAN???  THIS IS NOT TRUE;FOR JESUS HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT, SINCE CONCEPTION. NO EVIL IS FOUND IN HIM.HE IS A PURE SACRIFICE;UNBLEMISHED.
    *********************************************

    Wakeup,

    I KNOW IT’S SOUNDS RATHER DREADFUL!

    BUT BEFORE I POST MY COMMENTS, REFLECT:

    ON THIS REVELATION!

    In what should MY OMNIPOTENCE be extolled, if I could not CONTAIN MYSELF WITHIN MYSELF WHATEVER  I AM, so that I AM only FELT or SEEN as is most SUITABLE for the TIME, PLACE and PERSON?

    For since the creation of Heaven and earth I have worked for the redemption of all, more by the wisdom of my BENIGNITY than by the power of my Majesty. And this benignity of wisdom shines most in my TOLERANCE towards the imperfect,

    ( SATAN/LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS, US)

    leading them, even by their own free will,

    ( BY THEIR OWN PLANS)

    into the way of perfection.

    IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ABOVE REVELATION WHICH IS NOT A REFEFRENCE TO GOD ALMIGHTY!

    BACK YOUR ANSWER WITH YOUR COMMENTS,

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Where did you get that revelation?

    However, it doesn't make sense because if it were true then there would be absolutely no reason to call anything evil it would then be reasonable for redemption not to be needed as evil would be a part of God.

    redemption would only be a problem if God Himself felt imperfect in which He would certainly not have a need for tolerance towards the imperfect for what would he judge it by?

    God's Mercy and Compassion is only possible because something outside Himself is less than Himself and understanding that, tolerance is not only reasonable but necessary for Him to deal with His creation.

    #355743
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Boditharta.

    As you can see;the christians read the same bible
    and yet so many different interpretations.
    therfore God said;THE LAND IS DESOLATE.

    The Holy bible is written to be search
    and the pieces of prophesies to be matched up.
    When the picture becomes complete,without any
    distortions,then the truth is discovered.
    Seek and you *shall find*
    Any *other* revelations will not fit in the picture.

    wakeup.

    #355798
    carmel
    Participant

    Wakeup,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    Can you please elaborate on
    this,your quote.

    Quote:
    SATAN/LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS, US)
    leading them, even by their own free will,

    Wakeup,

    Lucifer, and his angels are the source of all matter! OUR WORLD!

    GOD ALMIGHTY  BY, AND IN THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE,MEDIATOR CREATOR  GOD, TRANSFORMED ALL THE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS INTO DUST AND, INTEGRATED THEM IN THE RECREATION OF OUR WORLD!

    THIS HAPPENED WHEN LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN TO EARTH!

    SO WHEN LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN WAS NOT BY HIMSELF, BUT WITHIN HIM HE HAD THE WORD

    OBVIOUS LUCIFER WAS NOT IN THE POSSITION TO DO ANYTHING SINCE HE BECAME GOD’S ENEMY! NEVER MIND TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH!

    HERE COMES THAT METAPHORE HE CAME DOWN BY WATER AND BLOOD WHICH MEANS THAT THE WATER, THE WORD JESUS’ SPIRIT  CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, LEFT THE FATHER, WITHIN  LUCIFER, BLOOD, MATTER, AND EVENTUALLY SATAN!

    GOD RADIATES HIS POWER IN RESPECT TO THE LOVE RECEIVED FROM HIS CREATURES!

    SO THE ONLY WAY FOR LUCIFER TO ACHIEVE HIS AMBITION AND BECOME LIKE THE MOST HIGH, WAS ONLY THROUGH GOD HIMSELF, HIDDEN WITHIN AS THE WORD BUT BY THE SAME PROCESS GOD WOULD LEAD HIM AND HIS ANGELS BACK TO PERFECTION!

    NOW THE JEWS ARE EX LUCIFER'S SPIRIT BODY, THE CARRIER OF HIS SPIRIT! AS FLESH ONLY!

    THE THE GENTILES ARE LUCIFER'S ANGELS' SPIRIT BODIES US AS FLESH ONLY!

    SATAN AND THE DEMONS ARE THE ACTUAL SPIRIT WHICH WERE  WITHIN LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS RESPECTIVELY!

    THE MUSLIMS, DESCENDANTS OF ISHMAEL, ARE SATAN'S GENEALOGY IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH, IN ORDER TO BE BORN AS THE ANTICHRIST!

    Unfortunately,they never accepted Jesus Christ, as the THE WORD MADE FLESH BUT AS AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, AND A SIMPLE PROPHET!

    OBVIOUS OTHERWISE UNAWARE OF IT, THEY WOULD REJECT SATAN'S SPIRIT WHICH IS WITHIN THEM, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE STILL ANCHORED TO THE OT, NONSENSE GOD OF THE WORLD!

    Now if I were you read my long post again which according to you, is full of contradiction, but you need to reflect properly which you never did, since you answered it so quickly, I didn’t write three verses. Did I?

    Peace And love in Jesus

    Charles

    #355800
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Carmel.

    I smell a mormon.

    QUOTE:
    Lucifer, and his angels are the source of all matter! OUR WORLD! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————NOT SO; GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.
    GOD CREATED ADAM OUT OF THE DUST,AND EVE OUT OF ADAM.LUCIFER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY CREATION. GOD CREATED MATTER ALSO;HE CREATED THE UNIVERSE.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    GOD ALMIGHTY BY, AND IN THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE,MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, TRANSFORMED ALL THE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS INTO DUST AND, INTEGRATED THEM IN THE RECREATION OF OUR WORLD!
    UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    NOT IN SCRIPTURE:
    THE ANGELS WERE CAST OUT OF HEAVEN AFTER THE RESURRECTION REV,12. THE CHILD WAS CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN ,AND THERE WAS WAR IN HEAVEN,AND SATAN AND THE ANGELS WERE CAST *INTO* THE EARTH.
    WE ARE NOT CREATED OF ANGELS DUST.NOT IN SCRIPTURE.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    THIS HAPPENED WHEN LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN TO EARTH! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    AGAIN;THE DRAGON AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST DOWN AFTER THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.
    AND HE PERSECUTED GODS WOMAN,THE EARLY CHURCH: PAUL WAS THE LEADER,WORKING FOR THE JEWS.SATAN WAS NOT CAST DOWN TO THE EARTH PRIOR TO JESUS. IN THE BOOK OF JOB,SATAN COULD STILL ENTER HEAVEN;HE WAS NOT CAST DOWN THEN,AND BANNED FROM HEAVEN.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    SO WHEN LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN WAS NOT BY HIMSELF, BUT WITHIN HIM HE HAD THE WORD UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    YOU SEEM NOT TO BE FEMILIAR WITH JOHN 1.
    THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD *WAS GOD*.
    THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH(JESUS).
    JESUS REBUKED SATAN; GET BEHIND ME SATAN.
    LUCIFER(SATAN) HAS NO JESUS IN HIM. HE KILLED JESUS.
    WHAT AGREEMENT HAS GODS TEMPLE WITH DEVILS?
    ——————————————————————
    QUOTE:
    OBVIOUS LUCIFER WAS NOT IN THE POSSITION TO DO ANYTHING SINCE HE BECAME GOD’S ENEMY! NEVER MIND TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    HOW CAN HE BECOME GODS ENEMY,IF HE HAS THE WORD IN HIM? THIS IS CONFUSION.

    LUCIFER CAN NOT DO ANYTHING IF GOD WONT LET HIM.
    READ THE BOOK OF JOB;AND SEE HOW SATAN HAS TO OBEY GOD; GOD SAID;YOU CAN DO ANYTHING TO HIM;BUT DONT TOUCH HIS SOUL.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    HERE COMES THAT METAPHORE HE CAME DOWN BY WATER AND BLOOD WHICH MEANS THAT THE WATER, THE WORD JESUS’ SPIRIT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, LEFT THE FATHER, WITHIN LUCIFER, BLOOD, MATTER, AND EVENTUALLY SATAN! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THIS IS SO STRANGE:NOT CAME DOWN OF WATER AND BLOOD;HE DID NOT COME DOWN IN THE FLESH, HE WAS BORN FLESH.THE BREAD OF LIFE CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN.
    OF WHICH WE MUST EAT.JESUS SAID:EAT MY FLESH.
    JESUS WAS BORN OF A MOMAN;HE CAME OUT OF WATER AND BLOOD.(HUMAN LIKE US).
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    GOD RADIATES HIS POWER IN RESPECT TO THE LOVE RECEIVED FROM HIS CREATURES! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    NOT SO: GODS POWER WAS FROM EVERLASTING,BEFORE HE CREATED ALL THAT IS CREATED.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    SO THE ONLY WAY FOR LUCIFER TO ACHIEVE HIS AMBITION AND BECOME LIKE THE MOST HIGH, WAS ONLY THROUGH GOD HIMSELF, HIDDEN WITHIN AS THE WORD BUT BY THE SAME PROCESS GOD WOULD LEAD HIM AND HIS ANGELS BACK TO PERFECTION! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    NOT CORRECT: THE LAKE OF FIRE IS FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS.
    REV.20:10. THE DEVIL THAT DECEIVED THEM WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE—-
    THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS WILL BE NO MORE.
    NO CHANCE FOR PERFECTION;NO MERCY.
    —————————————————————–

    QUOTE:
    NOW THE JEWS ARE EX LUCIFER'S SPIRIT BODY, THE CARRIER OF HIS SPIRIT! AS FLESH ONLY! UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    THE JEWS AND US ARE THE CHILDREN OF ADAM AND EVE;CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. EVERY PERSON HAS THE SPIRIT OF MAN IN HIM.EVIL CAME FROM DISOBEYING GOD.WHAT BOOK ARE YOU READING?
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    THE THE GENTILES ARE LUCIFER'S ANGELS' SPIRIT BODIES US AS FLESH ONLY! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    DO YOU HAVE LUCIFERS SPIRIT IN YOU? ARE YOU ONE OF THE FALLEN ANGELS? IS THAT GODS IMAGE?
    WHAT HAS THE TEMPLE OF GOD TO DO WITH DEVILS?
    IF WE ALL HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LUCIFER IN US,THEN WE ALL WILL BE CAST IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.
    ONLY THE VERY WICKED HAVE THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL IN HIM, AND HIS OWN SPIRIT;BY OWN CHOICE.
    —————————————————————–

    QUOTE:
    SATAN AND THE DEMONS ARE THE ACTUAL SPIRIT WHICH WERE WITHIN LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS RESPECTIVELY! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THE FALLEN ANGELS ARE FOLLOWERS OF LUCIFER,
    BY OWN CHOICE. THEY ARE SPIRITS CREATURES THAT HAVE GONE ASTRAY. LUCIFER IS SATAN,IS THE DEVIL;IS THE DRAGON.HE HAS HIS ANGELS AS PRINCES
    DECEIVING THE WORLD. BUT WE CAN MAKE A CHOICE.
    —————————————————————–

    QUOTE:
    THE MUSLIMS, DESCENDANTS OF ISHMAEL, ARE SATAN'S GENEALOGY IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH, IN ORDER TO BE BORN AS THE ANTICHRIST! UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    ISHMAEL IS THE FIRST BORN OF ABRAHAM;ISAAC IS
    HIS HALF BROTHER.
    HAGAR IS HIS MOTHER.
    SATAN IS A SPIRIT CREATURE,HE IS NOT FLESH.
    ISHMAEL IS ALSO MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. NOT IN THE IMAGE OF LUCIFER.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    Unfortunately,they never accepted Jesus Christ, as the THE WORD MADE FLESH BUT AS AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, AND A SIMPLE PROPHET!UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    YOU ALSO ARE PREACHING ANOTHER JESUS,AND ANOTHER GOSPEL.
    THE WORD IS NOT IN SATAN.THE WORD IS GODS WORD.
    THE WORD CAME *FORTH FROM* GOD,AND THE WORD WAS GOD.WITHOUT THE WORD WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE. INCLUDING LUCIFER,WAS MADE BY THE WORD;AND HIS ANGELS.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    OBVIOUS OTHERWISE UNAWARE OF IT, THEY WOULD REJECT SATAN'S SPIRIT WHICH IS WITHIN THEM, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE STILL ANCHORED TO THE OT, NONSENSE GOD OF THE WORLD! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    MANY RELIGIONS DONT ACCEPT JESUS AS THE SAVIOUR, NOT ONLY MUSLEMS.
    THE CHRISHNA'S BELIEVE THAT CHRISHNA IS THE SAVIOUR. YOU BELIEVE THAT LUCIFER IS IN THE WORD;IN JESUS. THERE NEEDS TO BE TWO WITNESSES,
    THE OT. AND THE NT.THEY ARE BOTH IN HARMONY.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    Now if I were you read my long post again which according to you, is full of contradiction, but you need to reflect properly which you never did, since you answered it so quickly, I didn’t write three verses. Did I.UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    I ANSWERED SO QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW THE SCRIPTURES BY HARD. I DONT HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SCRIPTURE MOST OF THE TIME.
    AND YOU HAVE NOT QUOTED ANY SCRIPTURES.
    YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME OTHER FOREIGN BIBLE.

    wakeup.

    #355873
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,21:11)
    Hi Carmel.

    I smell a mormon.

    QUOTE:
    Lucifer, and his angels are the source of all matter! OUR WORLD! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————NOT SO; GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.
    GOD CREATED ADAM OUT OF THE DUST,AND EVE OUT OF ADAM.LUCIFER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY CREATION. GOD CREATED MATTER ALSO;HE CREATED THE UNIVERSE.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    GOD ALMIGHTY  BY, AND IN THE THE WORD THE TRIUNE,MEDIATOR CREATOR  GOD, TRANSFORMED ALL THE REBELLIOUS SPIRITS INTO DUST AND, INTEGRATED THEM IN THE RECREATION OF OUR WORLD!
    UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    NOT IN SCRIPTURE:
    THE ANGELS WERE CAST OUT OF HEAVEN AFTER THE RESURRECTION REV,12. THE CHILD WAS CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN ,AND THERE WAS WAR IN HEAVEN,AND SATAN AND THE ANGELS WERE CAST *INTO* THE EARTH.
    WE ARE NOT CREATED OF ANGELS DUST.NOT IN SCRIPTURE.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    THIS HAPPENED WHEN LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN TO EARTH! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    AGAIN;THE DRAGON AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST DOWN AFTER THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.
    AND HE PERSECUTED GODS WOMAN,THE EARLY CHURCH: PAUL WAS THE LEADER,WORKING FOR THE JEWS.SATAN WAS NOT CAST DOWN TO THE EARTH PRIOR TO JESUS. IN THE BOOK OF JOB,SATAN COULD STILL ENTER HEAVEN;HE WAS NOT CAST DOWN THEN,AND BANNED FROM HEAVEN.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    SO WHEN LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN FROM HEAVEN WAS NOT BY HIMSELF, BUT WITHIN HIM HE HAD THE WORD UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    YOU SEEM NOT TO BE FEMILIAR WITH JOHN 1.
    THE WORD WAS WITH GOD AND THE WORD *WAS GOD*.
    THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH(JESUS).
    JESUS REBUKED SATAN; GET BEHIND ME SATAN.
    LUCIFER(SATAN) HAS NO JESUS IN HIM. HE KILLED JESUS.
    WHAT AGREEMENT HAS GODS TEMPLE WITH DEVILS?
    ——————————————————————
    QUOTE:
    OBVIOUS LUCIFER WAS NOT IN THE POSSITION TO DO ANYTHING SINCE HE BECAME GOD’S ENEMY! NEVER MIND TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    HOW CAN HE BECOME GODS ENEMY,IF HE HAS THE WORD IN HIM? THIS IS CONFUSION.

    LUCIFER CAN NOT DO ANYTHING IF GOD WONT LET HIM.
    READ THE BOOK OF JOB;AND SEE HOW SATAN HAS TO OBEY GOD; GOD SAID;YOU CAN DO ANYTHING TO HIM;BUT DONT TOUCH HIS SOUL.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    HERE COMES THAT METAPHORE HE CAME DOWN BY WATER AND BLOOD WHICH MEANS THAT THE WATER, THE WORD JESUS’ SPIRIT  CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, LEFT THE FATHER, WITHIN  LUCIFER, BLOOD, MATTER, AND EVENTUALLY SATAN! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THIS IS SO STRANGE:NOT CAME DOWN OF WATER AND BLOOD;HE DID NOT COME DOWN IN THE FLESH, HE WAS BORN FLESH.THE BREAD OF LIFE CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN.
    OF WHICH WE MUST EAT.JESUS SAID:EAT MY FLESH.
    JESUS WAS BORN OF A MOMAN;HE CAME OUT OF WATER AND BLOOD.(HUMAN LIKE US).
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    GOD RADIATES HIS POWER IN RESPECT TO THE LOVE RECEIVED FROM HIS CREATURES! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    NOT SO: GODS POWER WAS FROM EVERLASTING,BEFORE HE CREATED ALL THAT IS CREATED.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    SO THE ONLY WAY FOR LUCIFER TO ACHIEVE HIS AMBITION AND BECOME LIKE THE MOST HIGH, WAS ONLY THROUGH GOD HIMSELF, HIDDEN WITHIN AS THE WORD BUT BY THE SAME PROCESS GOD WOULD LEAD HIM AND HIS ANGELS BACK TO PERFECTION! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    NOT CORRECT: THE LAKE OF FIRE IS FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS.
    REV.20:10. THE DEVIL THAT DECEIVED THEM WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE—-
    THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS WILL BE NO MORE.
    NO CHANCE FOR PERFECTION;NO MERCY.
    —————————————————————–

    QUOTE:
    NOW THE JEWS ARE EX LUCIFER'S SPIRIT BODY, THE CARRIER OF HIS SPIRIT! AS FLESH ONLY! UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    THE JEWS AND US ARE THE CHILDREN OF ADAM AND EVE;CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. EVERY PERSON HAS THE SPIRIT OF MAN IN HIM.EVIL CAME FROM DISOBEYING GOD.WHAT BOOK ARE YOU READING?
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    THE THE GENTILES ARE LUCIFER'S ANGELS' SPIRIT BODIES US AS FLESH ONLY! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    DO YOU HAVE LUCIFERS SPIRIT IN YOU? ARE YOU ONE OF THE FALLEN ANGELS? IS THAT GODS IMAGE?
    WHAT HAS THE TEMPLE OF GOD TO DO WITH DEVILS?
    IF WE ALL HAVE THE SPIRIT OF LUCIFER IN US,THEN WE ALL WILL BE CAST IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.
    ONLY THE VERY WICKED HAVE THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL IN HIM, AND HIS OWN SPIRIT;BY OWN CHOICE.
    —————————————————————–

    QUOTE:
    SATAN AND THE DEMONS ARE THE ACTUAL SPIRIT WHICH WERE  WITHIN LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS RESPECTIVELY! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    THE FALLEN ANGELS ARE FOLLOWERS OF LUCIFER,
    BY OWN CHOICE. THEY ARE SPIRITS CREATURES THAT HAVE GONE ASTRAY. LUCIFER IS SATAN,IS THE DEVIL;IS THE DRAGON.HE HAS HIS ANGELS AS PRINCES
    DECEIVING THE WORLD. BUT WE CAN MAKE A CHOICE.
    —————————————————————–

    QUOTE:
    THE MUSLIMS, DESCENDANTS OF ISHMAEL, ARE SATAN'S GENEALOGY IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH, IN ORDER TO BE BORN AS THE ANTICHRIST! UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    ISHMAEL IS THE FIRST BORN OF ABRAHAM;ISAAC IS
    HIS HALF BROTHER.
    HAGAR IS HIS MOTHER.
    SATAN IS A SPIRIT CREATURE,HE IS NOT FLESH.
    ISHMAEL IS ALSO MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. NOT IN THE IMAGE OF LUCIFER.
    ——————————————————————
     
    QUOTE:
    Unfortunately,they never accepted Jesus Christ, as the THE WORD MADE FLESH BUT AS AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, AND A SIMPLE PROPHET!UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    YOU ALSO ARE PREACHING ANOTHER JESUS,AND ANOTHER GOSPEL.
    THE WORD IS NOT IN SATAN.THE WORD IS GODS WORD.
    THE WORD CAME *FORTH FROM* GOD,AND THE WORD WAS GOD.WITHOUT THE WORD WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE. INCLUDING LUCIFER,WAS MADE BY THE WORD;AND HIS ANGELS.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:
    OBVIOUS OTHERWISE UNAWARE OF IT, THEY WOULD REJECT SATAN'S SPIRIT WHICH IS WITHIN THEM, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE STILL ANCHORED TO THE OT, NONSENSE GOD OF THE WORLD! UNQUOTE:

    ——————————————————————
    MANY RELIGIONS DONT ACCEPT JESUS AS THE SAVIOUR, NOT ONLY MUSLEMS.
    THE CHRISHNA'S BELIEVE THAT CHRISHNA IS THE SAVIOUR. YOU BELIEVE THAT LUCIFER IS IN THE WORD;IN JESUS. THERE NEEDS TO BE TWO WITNESSES,
    THE OT. AND THE NT.THEY ARE BOTH IN HARMONY.
    ——————————————————————

    QUOTE:  
    Now if I were you read my long post again which according to you, is full of contradiction, but you need to reflect properly which you never did, since you answered it so quickly, I didn’t write three verses. Did I.UNQUOTE:

    —————————————————————–
    I ANSWERE
    D SO QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW THE SCRIPTURES BY HARD. I DONT HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SCRIPTURE MOST OF THE TIME.
    AND YOU HAVE NOT QUOTED ANY SCRIPTURES.
    YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME OTHER FOREIGN BIBLE.

    wakeup.


    At least your response highlights your good common sense…lol

    #355921
    carmel
    Participant

    Wakeup,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    GOD CREATED ADAM OUT OF THE DUST

    Wakeup,

    FIRST OF ALL THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH!  HE CREATED ADAM FROM SLIME, NOT DUST! HE BECAME DUST THROUGH SIN! This is very important to be aware of!

    Genesis 2:5 And every plant of the field before it spring up in the earth, and every herb of the ground before it grew: for the Lord God had not rained upon the earth; and there was not a man to till the earth. 2:6 But a SPRING ROSE out the earth, WATERING ALL THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH.

    SO SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR THE WHOLE WORLD WAS A COMPLETE DUST AND NOT A PLANT SPRUNG UP YET, THEN GOD, SYMBOLICALLY BAPTISM , ESTABLISHED LIFE, AND ROSE A SPRING AND THE WHOLE WORLD BECAME ALL MUD, THEREFORE ADAM COULD NOT BE CREATED OUT OF DUST

    7And the Lord God FORMED MAN OF THE SLIME of the earth: OK? GOD FORMED MAN: SO AS MAN HE WAS COMPLETE!

    and breathed into his face the breath of life, and MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL  OK?  HE DIDN’T REMAIN MAN,BUT! BECAME A LIVING SOUL

    SO FIRST HE WAS CREATED AS MAN, THEN HE RECEIVED THE SOUL THROGUH GOD’S SPIRIT!

    TWO FUNCTIONS!

    THIS PROCESS WAS REPEATED AGAIN BY JESUS, THE SECOND ADAM,  ON HIS RESURRECTION!

    FIRST HE WAS RESURRECTED AS A NON MORTAL SPIRITUAL FLESH MAN, THE GLORIFIED MAN!  

    THEN HE RECEIVED HIS SOUL, THE HOLY SPIRIT AND JESUS BECAME THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT!

    NOW:

    IT’S IMPORTANT THAT SLIME, NOT DUST, TO MAKES US AWARE THAT THERE WERE TWO ELEMENTS: WHICH IS VITAL, TO REPRESENT THE SOUL AND THE FLESH, THE MALE AND THE FEMALE! So as  you said Eve was taken out of Adam, therefore SHE WAS WITHIN  ADAM WHEN HE WAS CREATED! This symbolically is also a reference both to the FATHER and the SON, since HIS SON WAS ALWAYS WITHIN THE FATHER!  ALSO THE FATHER ALWAYS SPIRIT, ( MALE/SOUL)BUT THE SON BECAME( FEMALE/FLESH!)

    FROM SPIRIT FORM INTO FLESH!

    SO ADAM( SOUL/SPIRIT) REPRESENTED THE FATHER, AND EVE(FLESH/MATTER) REPRESENTED THE SON!  SO THE SON’S SPIRIT THE WORD IS THE FEMALE SIDE OF GOD! MOTHER EARTH, MANIFESTED IN MARY!

    COLOSSIANS 2:2 ……….. unto the knowledge of the mystery of God the Father and of Christ Jesus:

    Matthew 11:27………….. And no one knoweth the Son, but the Father: neither doth any one know the Father, but the Son………

    NOW:

    Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, OUT OF WHICH YOU WERE TAKEN!

    CLEAR! ADAM ,( EX LUCIFER SPIRIT)LIKE ALL OF US,WAS TAKEN OUT FROM THE EARTH! FROM NATURE! THEREFORE HE WAS WITHIN NATURE, A SPIRIT LOCKED IN MATTER! THEREFORE MATTER! BUT HOW DID GOD TAKE HIM OUT? OBVIOUS IN THE SAME WAY WE COME OUT OF IT, THROUGH DEATH, SO HE WAS  ALREADY A CREATURE BUT WITHOUT INTELLECT , HE WAS A BEAST, A DEVIL IN FLESH LIKE ANIMALS!THE  PREADAMITE!

    SO HE WENT EXTINCT!

    THEN GOD RECREATED HIM A PERFECT MAN HE MADE HIM IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS!

    : for dust YOU ARE, and into DUST YOU SHALL RETURN return.

    HE NEVER SAID TO ADAM YOU WERE DUST SO ADAM BECAME DUST AFTER HE SINNED! FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT LEFT HIS SOUL! AND SATAN OCCUPIED HIS SOUL, AND BLOOD WAS ESTABLISHED! SO THIS PERFECT LIVING SOUL MAN ADAM, BECAME SATAN IN FLESH THEREFORE DUST, SO WE ARE NOT THE SAME MAN WHICH GOD CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE! SINCE WE ARE DUST!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #355963
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 23 2013,05:47)

    Wakeup,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    GOD CREATED ADAM OUT OF THE DUST

    Wakeup,

    FIRST OF ALL THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH!  HE CREATED ADAM FROM SLIME, NOT DUST! HE BECAME DUST THROUGH SIN! This is very important to be aware of!

    Genesis 2:5 And every plant of the field before it spring up in the earth, and every herb of the ground before it grew: for the Lord God had not rained upon the earth; and there was not a man to till the earth. 2:6 But a SPRING ROSE out the earth, WATERING ALL THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH.

    SO SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR THE WHOLE WORLD WAS A COMPLETE DUST AND NOT A PLANT SPRUNG UP YET, THEN GOD, SYMBOLICALLY BAPTISM , ESTABLISHED LIFE, AND ROSE A SPRING AND THE WHOLE WORLD BECAME ALL MUD, THEREFORE ADAM COULD NOT BE CREATED OUT OF DUST

    7And the Lord God FORMED MAN OF THE SLIME of the earth: OK? GOD FORMED MAN: SO AS MAN HE WAS COMPLETE!

    and breathed into his face the breath of life, and MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL  OK?  HE DIDN’T REMAIN MAN,BUT! BECAME A LIVING SOUL

    SO FIRST HE WAS CREATED AS MAN, THEN HE RECEIVED THE SOUL THROGUH GOD’S SPIRIT!

    TWO FUNCTIONS!

    THIS PROCESS WAS REPEATED AGAIN BY JESUS, THE SECOND ADAM,  ON HIS RESURRECTION!

    FIRST HE WAS RESURRECTED AS A NON MORTAL SPIRITUAL FLESH MAN, THE GLORIFIED MAN!  

    THEN HE RECEIVED HIS SOUL, THE HOLY SPIRIT AND JESUS BECAME THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT!

    NOW:

    IT’S IMPORTANT THAT SLIME, NOT DUST, TO MAKES US AWARE THAT THERE WERE TWO ELEMENTS: WHICH IS VITAL, TO REPRESENT THE SOUL AND THE FLESH, THE MALE AND THE FEMALE! So as  you said Eve was taken out of Adam, therefore SHE WAS WITHIN  ADAM WHEN HE WAS CREATED! This symbolically is also a reference both to the FATHER and the SON, since HIS SON WAS ALWAYS WITHIN THE FATHER!  ALSO THE FATHER ALWAYS SPIRIT, ( MALE/SOUL)BUT THE SON BECAME( FEMALE/FLESH!)

    FROM SPIRIT FORM INTO FLESH!

    SO ADAM( SOUL/SPIRIT) REPRESENTED THE FATHER, AND EVE(FLESH/MATTER) REPRESENTED THE SON!  SO THE SON’S SPIRIT THE WORD IS THE FEMALE SIDE OF GOD! MOTHER EARTH, MANIFESTED IN MARY!

    COLOSSIANS 2:2 ……….. unto the knowledge of the mystery of God the Father and of Christ Jesus:

    Matthew 11:27………….. And no one knoweth the Son, but the Father: neither doth any one know the Father, but the Son………

    NOW:

    Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, OUT OF WHICH YOU WERE TAKEN!

    CLEAR! ADAM ,( EX LUCIFER SPIRIT)LIKE ALL OF US,WAS TAKEN OUT FROM THE EARTH! FROM NATURE! THEREFORE HE WAS WITHIN NATURE, A SPIRIT LOCKED IN MATTER! THEREFORE MATTER! BUT HOW DID GOD TAKE HIM OUT? OBVIOUS IN THE SAME WAY WE COME OUT OF IT, THROUGH DEATH, SO HE WAS  ALREADY A CREATURE BUT WITHOUT INTELLECT , HE WAS A BEAST, A DEVIL IN FLESH LIKE ANIMALS!THE  PREADAMITE!

    SO HE WENT EXTINCT!

    THEN GOD RECREATED HIM A PERFECT MAN HE MADE HIM IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS!

    : for dust YOU ARE, and into DUST YOU SHALL RETURN return.

    HE NEVER SAID TO ADAM YOU WERE DUST SO ADAM BECAME DUST AFTER HE SINNED! FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT LEFT HIS SOUL! AND SATAN OCCUPIED HIS SOUL, AND BLOOD WAS ESTABLISHED! SO THIS PERFECT LIVING SOUL MAN ADAM, BECAME SATAN IN FLESH THEREFORE DUST, SO WE ARE NOT THE SAME MAN WHICH GOD CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE! SINCE WE ARE DUST!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Wow carmel.

    I have been searching to, and fro in the bible, and I could not find anything you have said.

    Why is that?
    You must have the latest new world version.
    What book is it you are reading?
    This is something new to me,and to most of us here.
    Can you tell me what bible you are studying?

    wakeup.

    #355975
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 23 2013,05:47)
    : for dust YOU ARE, and into DUST YOU SHALL RETURN return.

    HE NEVER SAID TO ADAM YOU WERE DUST SO ADAM BECAME DUST AFTER HE SINNED! FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT LEFT HIS SOUL! AND SATAN OCCUPIED HIS SOUL, AND BLOOD WAS ESTABLISHED! SO THIS PERFECT LIVING SOUL MAN ADAM, BECAME SATAN IN FLESH THEREFORE DUST, SO WE ARE NOT THE SAME MAN WHICH GOD CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE! SINCE WE ARE DUST!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Genesis 3:19
    By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.”

    Proven incorrect again, will you not then correct yourself?

    #355984
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 21 2013,02:59)
    [/quote]

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:


    Quote
    However, it doesn't make sense because if it were true then there would be absolutely no reason to call anything evil it would then be reasonable for redemption not to be needed as evil would be a part of God.

    BD,AND WAKEUP,

    HERE IS YOUR ANSWER!

    BE AWARE OF WHAT GOD IS!

    Matthew 5:44But I say to you, Love your enemies:

    SO GOD LOVES SATAN AND HE DEFINITELY REDEEMS HIM THROUGH HIS MERCY, WHICH IS THE MOST POWERFUL OF GOD'S VIRTUES!

    OBVIOUS, NOT AS AN ANGEL, BUT AS SOULS LIKE WHAT HE IS DOING ANYWAY! ALL HUMANS ARE SATAN'S AND CO.REMNANTS!

    1 Peter 9 But you are a chosen generation, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation, a PURCHASED ( BY JESUS BLOOD) people: that you may declare his virtues, who hath called you out of darkness( SATAN) into his marvellous light: 10Who in time past WERE NOT A PEOPLE, (BUT DEVILS IN FLESH)but are now the people of
    God. Who had not obtained mercy; but now have obtained MERCY.

    SO:

    HE CREATED WITH LOVE!

    HE REDEEMS ALL WITH MERCY!

    do good to them that hate you:

    SO GOD IS DOING GOOD TO SATAN AND CO.! TILL HE IS CONVINCED THAT ALMIGHTY GOD IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!

    and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you:

    JESUS CHRIST PRAYED IN THE GARDEN FOR SATAN AND CO. US! WHO PERSECUTED JESUS UP TO THE CROSS,! FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY ARE DOING

    45That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust.

    SO GOD IS NOURISHING BOTH SATAN'S AND CO. GENERATIONS AND THE HOLY GENERATIONS!

    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, THE WORD and create darkness, SATAN

    I make peace, BY THE WORD and create evil: SATAN'S WORK

    I the Lord that do all these things.[/B]

    NOW READ AGAIN:

     In what should MY OMNIPOTENCE be extolled, if I could not CONTAIN MYSELF WITHIN MYSELF WHATEVER  I AM,

    Colossians 1:16 For IN HIM  were ALL THINGS(TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT)
    created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created BY HIM ( JESUS’SPIRIT) and IN HIM.  TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT


    17And he is before all, and BY HIM all things consist.

    And through him to RECONCILED ALL UNTO HIMSELF, making PEACE  through the blood of his cross, both as to the things that are on earth, and the things that are in heaven. TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT!

    NOTHING, EXISTS, AND STANDS WITHOUT GOD WITHIN, AS   THE WORD THE SON'S SPIRIT,THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD,

    so that I AM only FELT or SEEN as is most SUITABLE for the TIME, PLACE and PERSON?

    SO WHEREVER HE IS, EVEN IN SATAN, HE WOULD NOT BE FELT AT ALL!

    SO HE IS WITHIN YOU AND YOU DON’T FEEL HIS PRESENCE, EXCEPT THE WAY YOU FEEL YOURSELF! IN WHATEVER STATE YOU ARE! SO YOU WILL NEVER REALIZE THAT HE IS IN YOU!

    John1:5 And the light the word shineth in darkness,SATAN  and the darkness SATAN did not comprehend it. NOT AWARE OF IT

    MATTHEW 4:4 Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live MAN IS NOT MATTER ONLY! SATAN'S SUBSTANCE!

    , but in every WORD that proceedeth from the mouth of God. BUT WITH THE WORD WITHIN ALL MATTER NO MATTER WHAT!

    SO THE BREAD ITS NOT JUST BREAD, BUT ALSO SPIRIT THE WORDHIDDEN WITHIN!

    SO SATAN HIMSELF WAS ONLY IN EXSITENCE PROVOKING JESUS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE WORD WAS HIDDEN WITHIN HIM

    SATAN PROVOKED JESUS SIMPLY BECAUSE SINCE JESUS CAME TO REDEEM ALL SOULS, THEREFORE HUNGRY FOR SOULS, WAS NOT ACTUALLY HUNGRY FOR BREAD, AND SATAN BELIEVED THAT HUMANS, WHOM HE MADE THEIR HEART OF STONES, WOULD NEVER BECOME JESUS’ BREAD, SOULS SINCE HE OWNED THEM WITH HIS PRESENCE WITHIN THEM,UP TO THAT TIME!

    THE WORD IS STILL WITHIN NATURE,TO SUSTAIN IT, AND ONLY WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD ENDS AS A BALL OF FIRE, WOULD EVENTUALLY ALL LOCKED EVIL SPIRITS COME OUT, WITH THE WORD WITHIN! WHEN HE MAKES THEM AS HIS FOOTSTOOL!

    2 Peter 3:10 But the DAY OF THE LORD ( WHEN HE COME S OUT OF NATURE)shall come as a thief, in which the heavens shall pass away with great violence, and the elements( SATAN’S SPIRIT AND CO.) shall be melted with heat, and the earth and the works( ALL SPIRITS) which are in it, shall be burnt up. BECOME FREE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MILLIONS,AND MILLIONS OF YEARS! THROUGH MERCY!

    Luke 17:21Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

    THE WORD THE SON'S SPIRIT, THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD

    WITHIN LUCIFER AS THE ENTIRE WORLD,

    THE ENTIRE EVIL FLESH HUMANS DUE TO THE SIN BY ADAM

    ( LUCIFER'S SPIRIT RECREATED ANEW AS THE FIRST ACT OF MERCY BY GOD, BY THE WORD AS THE FIRST LIVING SOUL, THE SON'S SUBSTANCE!

    SEALED IN THE ENTIRE NATURE MANIFESTING GOD TANGIBILITY!

    John 6:27 Labour not for the meat (FOOD)which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you.( THROUGH NATURE) For him hath God, the Father, SEALED.

    CHARLES

    #355987
    carmel
    Participant

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.”

    BD,AND WAKEUP!

    FIRST OF ALL I MAKE USE OF THE OLDEST TWO BIBLE VERSIONS

    DRB, AND KJV

    THEN I DECIDE WHICH I FEEL IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO MY UNDERSTANDING!

    NOW READ KJV:

    GENESIS 2:6But there went up a MIST from the earth, and

    WATERED the WHOLE FACE of the ground.

    7And the LORD God formed man OF THE DUST of the ground,

    THE ABOVE IS A CONTRADICTION IN ITSELF

    THE WHOLE FACE OF THE GROUND WAS MUD!

    GOD FORMED MAN OF THE DUST!

    WHERE  DID GOD GET THE DUST FROM?

    SINCE IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE?

    WHY DIDN'T GOD FORM MAN WHEN THE FACE WAS DUSTY?

    WHY DID HE WATER ALL THE FACE OF THE EARTH, IF HE WANTED TO FORM MAN OF THE DUST?

    NOW READ DRB

    But a spring rose out the earth,

    WATERING all the surface of the earth.

    7And the Lord God formed man

    of the SLIME of the earth:

    YOU ACCEPT WHAT YOU WANT! BUT

    TO ME THE ABOVE IS MORE IN THE TRUTH!

    NOW BD, THE QORAN ALSO STATES CLAY AS FAR AS I KNOW!

    NOW:

    WHERE IN THAT VERSE YOU POSTED IT SAYS THAT ADAM WAS FORMED OUT OF DUST?

    HE CALLED ADAM DUST, AFTER HE SINNED!

    OBVIOUS HE DIED THROUGH SIN, AND SATAN TOOK OVER, THEREFORE HE BECAME DUST THROUGH SATAN'S DEAD SPIRIT WITHIN HIS SOUL

    CHARLES

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    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 24 2013,02:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 21 2013,02:59)
    [/quote]

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:


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    However, it doesn't make sense because if it were true then there would be absolutely no reason to call anything evil it would then be reasonable for redemption not to be needed as evil would be a part of God.

    BD,AND WAKEUP,

    HERE IS YOUR ANSWER!

    BE AWARE OF WHAT GOD IS!

    Matthew 5:44But I say to you, Love your enemies:

    SO GOD LOVES SATAN AND HE DEFINITELY REDEEMS HIM THROUGH HIS MERCY, WHICH IS THE MOST POWERFUL OF GOD'S VIRTUES!

    OBVIOUS, NOT AS AN ANGEL, BUT AS SOULS LIKE WHAT HE IS DOING ANYWAY! ALL HUMANS ARE SATAN'S AND CO.REMNANTS!

    1 Peter 9 But you are a chosen generation, a kingly priesthood, a holy nation, a PURCHASED ( BY JESUS BLOOD) people: that you may declare his virtues, who hath called you out of darkness( SATAN) into his marvellous light: 10Who in time past WERE NOT A PEOPLE, (BUT DEVILS IN FLESH)but are now the people of
    God. Who had not obtained mercy; but now have obtained MERCY.

    SO:

    HE CREATED WITH LOVE!

    HE REDEEMS ALL WITH MERCY!

    do good to them that hate you:

    SO GOD IS DOING GOOD TO SATAN AND CO.! TILL HE IS CONVINCED THAT ALMIGHTY GOD IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST!

    and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you:

    JESUS CHRIST PRAYED IN THE GARDEN FOR SATAN AND CO. US! WHO PERSECUTED JESUS UP TO THE CROSS,! FATHER FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY ARE DOING

    45That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust.

    SO GOD IS NOURISHING BOTH SATAN'S AND CO. GENERATIONS AND THE HOLY GENERATIONS!

    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, THE WORD and create darkness, SATAN

    I make peace, BY THE WORD and create evil: SATAN'S WORK

    I the Lord that do all these things.[/B]

    NOW READ AGAIN:

     In what should MY OMNIPOTENCE be extolled, if I could not CONTAIN MYSELF WITHIN MYSELF WHATEVER  I AM,

    Colossians 1:16 For IN HIM  were ALL THINGS(TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT)
    created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created BY HIM ( JESUS’SPIRIT) and IN HIM.  TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT


    17And he is before all, and BY HIM all things consist.

    And through him to RECONCILED ALL UNTO HIMSELF, making PEACE  through the blood of his cross, both as to the things that are on earth, and the things that are in heaven. TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT!

    NOTHING, EXISTS, AND STANDS WITHOUT GOD WITHIN, AS   THE WORD THE SON'S SPIRIT,THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD,

    so that I AM only FELT or SEEN as is most SUITABLE for the TIME, PLACE and PERSON?

    SO WHEREVER HE IS, EVEN IN SATAN, HE WOULD NOT BE FELT AT ALL!

    SO HE IS WITHIN YOU AND YOU DON’T FEEL HIS PRESENCE, EXCEPT THE WAY YOU FEEL YOURSELF! IN WHATEVER STATE YOU ARE! SO YOU WILL NEVER REALIZE THAT HE IS IN YOU!

    John1:5 And the light the word shineth in darkness,SATAN  and the darkness SATAN did not comprehend it. NOT AWARE OF IT

    MATTHEW 4:4 Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live MAN IS NOT MATTER ONLY! SATAN'S SUBSTANCE!

    , but in every WORD that proceedeth from the mouth of God. BUT WITH THE WORD WITHIN ALL MATTER NO MATTER WHAT!

    SO THE BREAD ITS NOT JUST BREAD, BUT ALSO SPIRIT THE WORDHIDDEN WITHIN!

    SO SATAN HIMSELF WAS ONLY IN EXSITENCE PROVOKING JESUS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE WORD WAS HIDDEN WITHIN HIM

    SATAN PROVOKED JESUS SIMPLY BECAUSE SINCE JESUS CAME TO REDEEM ALL SOULS, THEREFORE HUNGRY FOR SOULS, WAS NOT ACTUALLY HUNGRY FOR BREAD, AND SATAN BELIEVED THAT HUMANS, WHOM HE MADE THEIR HEART OF STONES, WOULD NEVER BECOME JESUS’ BREAD, SOULS SINCE HE OWNED THEM WITH HIS PRESENCE WITHIN THEM,UP TO THAT TIME!

    THE WORD IS STILL WITHIN NATURE,TO SUSTAIN IT, AND ONLY WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD ENDS AS A BALL OF FIRE, WOULD EVENTUALLY ALL LOCKED EVIL SPIRITS COME OUT, WITH THE WORD WITHIN! WHEN HE MAKES THEM AS HIS FOOTSTOOL!

    2 Peter 3:10 But the DAY OF THE LORD ( WHEN HE COME S OUT OF NATURE)shall come as a thief, in which the heavens shall pass away with great violence, and the elements( SATAN’S SPIRIT AND CO.) shall be melted with heat, and the earth and the works( ALL SPIRITS) which are in it, shall be burnt up. BECOME FREE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MILLIONS,AND MILLIONS OF YEARS! THROUGH MERCY!

    Luke 17:21Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

    THE WORD THE SON'S SPIRIT, THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD

    WITHIN LUCIFER AS THE ENTIRE WORLD,

    THE ENTIRE EVIL FLESH HUMANS DUE TO THE SIN BY ADAM

    ( LUCIFER'S SPIRIT RECREATED ANEW AS THE FIRST ACT OF MERCY BY GOD, BY THE WORD AS THE FIRST LIVING SOUL, THE SON'S SUBSTANCE!

    SEALED IN THE ENTIRE NATURE MANIFESTING GOD TANGIBILITY!

    John 6:27 Labour not for the meat (FOOD)which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you.( THROUGH NATURE) For him hath God, the Father, SEALED.

    CHARLES


    Carmel.

    quote:
    ( LUCIFER'S SPIRIT RECREATED ANEW AS THE FIRST ACT OF MERCY BY GOD, BY THE WORD AS THE FIRST LIVING SOUL, THE SON'S SUBSTANCE! unquote:

    That is a contradiction to this scripture; Jesus own words:

    Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, ***prepared for the devil and his angels***:

    wakeup.

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    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 24 2013,03:42)

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.”

    BD,AND WAKEUP!

    FIRST OF ALL I MAKE USE OF THE OLDEST TWO BIBLE VERSIONS

    DRB, AND KJV

    THEN I DECIDE WHICH I FEEL IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO MY UNDERSTANDING!

    NOW READ KJV:

    GENESIS 2:6But there went up a MIST from the earth, and

    WATERED the WHOLE FACE of the ground.

    7And the LORD God formed man OF THE DUST of the ground,

    THE ABOVE IS A CONTRADICTION IN ITSELF

    THE WHOLE FACE OF THE GROUND WAS MUD!

    GOD FORMED MAN OF THE DUST!

    WHERE  DID GOD GET THE DUST FROM?

    SINCE IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE?

    WHY DIDN'T GOD FORM MAN WHEN THE FACE WAS DUSTY?

    WHY DID HE WATER ALL THE FACE OF THE EARTH, IF HE WANTED TO FORM MAN OF THE DUST?

    NOW READ DRB

    But a spring rose out the earth,

    WATERING all the surface of the earth.

    7And the Lord God formed man

    of the SLIME of the earth:

    YOU ACCEPT WHAT YOU WANT! BUT

    TO ME THE ABOVE IS MORE IN THE TRUTH!

    NOW BD, THE QORAN ALSO STATES CLAY AS FAR AS I KNOW!

    NOW:

    WHERE IN THAT VERSE YOU POSTED IT SAYS THAT ADAM WAS FORMED OUT OF DUST?

    HE CALLED ADAM DUST, AFTER HE SINNED!

    OBVIOUS HE DIED THROUGH SIN, AND SATAN TOOK OVER, THEREFORE HE BECAME DUST THROUGH SATAN'S DEAD SPIRIT WITHIN HIS SOUL

    CHARLES


    carmel.

    You are contradicting these scriptures.

    Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it *divide the waters from the waters*.

    Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

    **EVAPORATION HAPENING HERE**.
    Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be **gathered together unto one place**, and let the **dry land appear**: and it was so.

    Genesis 1:10 ***And God called the *dry land* Earth***; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

    DRY LAND IS NO SLIME:

    wakeup.

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