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Boditharta.
God spoke to prophets of many generations,not just one
generations.
And all that is the old testament;of the one spirit.
The new testament; God spoke through his son,and recorded by the apostles; all the same spirit.The whole bible is one book writen by the many vessels of God. The bible is one book;of the one author,and he is God.
wakeup.
bod
the Catholic made sure to include books that have nothing to do with the truth given by God ,but good for them to use the name of it ;
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,00:53) Boditharta. God spoke to prophets of many generations,not just one
generations.
And all that is the old testament;of the one spirit.
The new testament; God spoke through his son,and recorded by the apostles; all the same spirit.The whole bible is one book writen by the many vessels of God. The bible is one book;of the one author,and he is God.
wakeup.
But it's not one book, if it were the Jews would have the same book but The Christians took the Torah and the books of the Prophets and added those to their collection of books and then simply called the collection of theJewish books the “Old Testament” The Jews don't consider their Holy books the “Old Testament”.Luke 1
New International Version (NIV)
Introduction
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.
So after all these books you seem to find it strang that God would reveal 1 more and yes there was a Gap between the OT and NT approx 400 years time difference.
Also yes a revelation from God was needed at that time because Christianity had become extremely corrupted an pollutedfrom it's original state:
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,12:51) [/quote] bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:Quote Okay, so what you are saying is: The firstborn son of God was created through Jesus(as the word) And Satan was IN him and me for him, right? CLARITY:
LUCIFER WAS CREATED BY A SPIRIT FROM THE SON, AND A SPIRIT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT! AND ANOINTED WITH THE FATHER’S SPIRIT!
HE WAS THE FIRST CREATED BEING WITH THE FULL POWER OF GOD, THEREFORE A CREATED GOD! THE FIRST VESSEL FOR GOD!
SO THE FATHER DIRECTLY, COMMENCED CREATION WITHIN LUCIFER, AND THROUGH LUCIFER.
IN THE TIME LUCIFER REMAINED IN GOD’S LOVE, HE CREATED OUR WORLD ,THROUGH GOD’S WISDOM, AND POWER!
NOW:
WISDOM A SPIRIT FROM THE SON
POWER A SPIRIT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT
LOVE AN ESSENCE FROM THE FATHER’S ANOINTMENT!
THESE TWO SPIRITS WISDOM AND POWER WERE THE SUBSTANCE WHICH LUCIFER WAS COMPOSED WITH!
GOD PREDESTINED THAT THIS TWO SPIRIT CREATURE, LUCIFER, ENDS UP IN A CONFLICT WITHIN HIMSELF, AND THROUGH THIS CONFLICT ONE SPIRIT DEFEATED THE OTHER! AND A REBEL DEVELOPED AGAINST GOD!
NOW CREATURES REMAIN IN EXISTENCE ONLY THROUGH GOD’S SPIRIT WITHIN THEM! NOTHING COULD EXIST WITHOUT GOD’S VERSATILE SPIRIT WITHIN, AND GOD IS NOT DIVISIBLE! NO MATTER HOW MANY CREATURES HE CREATE, AND NO MATTER IN WHAT STATE THEY ARE IN, HE IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF THE ENTIRE EXISTENCE! TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT!
SO GOD COULD NOT REMAIN DIFRECTLY AS HE WAS IN AN EVIL CREATURE, LIKE LUCIFER BECAME, OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY DISINTEGRATED HIM!
SO GOD, NOT TO BE DETRIMENTAL FOR HIS CREATURES, THE FIRST THING HE DID WAS TO ESTABLISH, THE WORD HIS SON’S POWERFUL FUNCTION, WHICH LUCIFER WAS CREATED WITH:
SO THE SON’S SPIRIT ABIDED IN LUCIFER AS A MEDIATOR SPIRIT,AS SOON AS LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN TO EARTH,
Luke 10:18 And he said to them: I saw Satan like lightening falling from heaven.
1John 5:6This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ: not by water only, ( spirit)but by water and blood. ( spirit and matter, Jesus within Satan)And it is the Spirit which testifieth, that Christ is the truth.
ALTHOUGH HE WAS THE MOST EVIL CREATURE WHICH HIS HATRED FOR GOD WAS UNIMAGINABLE! HOW? THE FATHER ABIDED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND BOTH OF THEM ABIDED IN THE SON’S!AS THE WORD THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, SO THREE SPIRITS UNITED AS ONE SPIRIT, AND IN THE SAME TIME COULD ALSO FUNCTION IN FULL HARMONY AS INDIVIDUALS!
SO THE WORD BECAME THE FIRST BORN EVIL CREATURE!
SO GOD ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST PERFECT GOD! LUCIFER! LIGHTBEARER
THEN FURTHER ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST EVIL god! THE GOD OF THE WORLD! SATAN! DARKNESS!
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light,( THE WORD) and create darkness,( SATAN) I make peace, ( THE WORD, AS A MEDIATOR GOD)and create evil:( SATAN’S WORK) I the Lord that do all these things.
ALL THROUGH THE WORD NOT AS GOD THE FATHER WHEN HE CREATED LUCIFER IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT AS GOD ALMIGHTY OBVIOUS BOTH GOOD AND EVIL HIDDEN WITHIN DARKNESS, HIS ENEMY TO ACCOMPLISH HIS ENEMIES’ PLAN, AND WITH THE SAME PLAN REDEEMS HIM!
GOD THROUGH THE WORD SPLIT THIS TWO SPIRIT EVIL CREATURE. ONE SPIRIT, WHICH BELONGS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, REMAINED A SPIRIT, THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL, SATAN,EX LUCIFER'S, AND ONE SPIRIT,LUCIFER, WHICH BELONGS TO THE SON, BECAME DUST, MATTER!
SO THE WORD ( CHRISTIANS)AS THE ONLY MEDIATOR, SINCE THEN HAD BEEN CONSUMED, HIDDEN IN BOTH SPIRIT, (SATAN, MUSLIMS) AND MATTER (LUCIFER, JEWS)OBVIOUS THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE.
Matthew 13:44 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a treasure hidden in a field. Which a man having found, hid it, and for joy thereof goeth, and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
GOD THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE CREATION OF OUR WORLD, IS GRADUALLY, PATIENTLY ACQUIRING BACK THIS TWO SPIRIT CREATURE, BUT IN THE FORM OF SPIRITUAL FLESH, CREATURES TWO OPPOSING ELEMENTS UNITED AS ONE, WITH LOVE IN CHARITY, OBVIOUS SACRIFICING THE WORD, THE SON’S SPIRIT BURIED IN THEM [/B] FOR ETERNITY, AND THE FIRST ONE TO ACHIEVE THIS WAS JESUS CHRIST, SATAN'S FANTASY, WHEN GOD UNITED THE HOLY SPIRIT,JESUS SOUL, AND JESUS’SPIRIT.JESUS’FLESH BODY AND BECAME
THE ONLY GOD IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH AND GOD ALMIGHTY ENRICHED HIMSELF ETERNALLY!
AT THE END ALL CREATURES MUST BE LIKE JESUS CHRIST, GODS IN SPIRITUAL FLESH, HE CAME LIKE US, TO MAKE US LIKE HIM
AND THE FATHER WOULD BE ALL IN ALL! AS A SPIRIT, LIKE HE ALWAYS WAS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
THE ONLY MOMENT WHEN SATAN INEFFECTUALY ENTERED JESUS’ SOUL WAS ONLY ON CONCEPTION,
Ezekiel 44:3 For the prince.( Satan) The prince himself shall sit in it,( Mary’s womb) to eat bread before the Lord:( the Holy Spirit) he shall enter in by the way of the porch of the gate, and shall go out by the same way.
Song of Solomon 8:1 Who shall give thee to me ( Jesus) for my brother,( satan) sucking the breasts of my mother, that I may find thee without, and kiss thee, and now no man may despise me? ( sinning)
BUT JESUS REMOVED HIM THROUGH JOHN’S BAPTIZM! AND HE NEVER ENTERED AGAIN, EXCEPT RELUCTANT ON THE CROSS TO LOSE THE BATTLE AND NEVER HAD A GLIMPSE TO REALIZE THAT HE DID SO !
BD,
CARNALWISE WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO ALL THOSE PRESENT, EXCEPT MARY, WHILE JESUS WAS FACING HIS DEATH, TO BE AWARE WHAT WAS GOING ON!
NOW THE QORAN WAS WRITTEN ON THE DIRECTION OF GABRIEL, TO CONFIRM AND REVEAL THE BLINDNESS OF SATAN THROUGHOUT ALL THE PROCESS OF REDEMPTION, EXPRESSED IN ALL MUSLIMS! CARNAL MINDED RELIGION!
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 13 2013,06:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,12:51) [/quote] bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:Quote Okay, so what you are saying is: The firstborn son of God was created through Jesus(as the word) And Satan was IN him and me for him, right? CLARITY:
LUCIFER WAS CREATED BY A SPIRIT FROM THE SON, AND A SPIRIT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT! AND ANOINTED WITH THE FATHER’S SPIRIT!
HE WAS THE FIRST CREATED BEING WITH THE FULL POWER OF GOD, THEREFORE A CREATED GOD! THE FIRST VESSEL FOR GOD!
SO THE FATHER DIRECTLY, COMMENCED CREATION WITHIN LUCIFER, AND THROUGH LUCIFER.
IN THE TIME LUCIFER REMAINED IN GOD’S LOVE, HE CREATED OUR WORLD ,THROUGH GOD’S WISDOM, AND POWER!
NOW:
WISDOM A SPIRIT FROM THE SON
POWER A SPIRIT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT
LOVE AN ESSENCE FROM THE FATHER’S ANOINTMENT!
THESE TWO SPIRITS WISDOM AND POWER WERE THE SUBSTANCE WHICH LUCIFER WAS COMPOSED WITH!
GOD PREDESTINED THAT THIS TWO SPIRIT CREATURE, LUCIFER, ENDS UP IN A CONFLICT WITHIN HIMSELF, AND THROUGH THIS CONFLICT ONE SPIRIT DEFEATED THE OTHER! AND A REBEL DEVELOPED AGAINST GOD!
NOW CREATURES REMAIN IN EXISTENCE ONLY THROUGH GOD’S SPIRIT WITHIN THEM! NOTHING COULD EXIST WITHOUT GOD’S VERSATILE SPIRIT WITHIN, AND GOD IS NOT DIVISIBLE! NO MATTER HOW MANY CREATURES HE CREATE, AND NO MATTER IN WHAT STATE THEY ARE IN, HE IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF THE ENTIRE EXISTENCE! TO THE LEAST BIT OF IT!
SO GOD COULD NOT REMAIN DIFRECTLY AS HE WAS IN AN EVIL CREATURE, LIKE LUCIFER BECAME, OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY DISINTEGRATED HIM!
SO GOD, NOT TO BE DETRIMENTAL FOR HIS CREATURES, THE FIRST THING HE DID WAS TO ESTABLISH, THE WORD HIS SON’S POWERFUL FUNCTION, WHICH LUCIFER WAS CREATED WITH:
SO THE SON’S SPIRIT ABIDED IN LUCIFER AS A MEDIATOR SPIRIT,AS SOON AS LUCIFER WAS CAST DOWN TO EARTH,
Luke 10:18 And he said to them: I saw Satan like lightening falling from heaven.
1John 5:6This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ: not by water only, ( spirit)but by water and blood. ( spirit and matter, Jesus within Satan)And it is the Spirit which testifieth, that Christ is the truth.
ALTHOUGH HE WAS THE MOST EVIL CREATURE WHICH HIS HATRED FOR GOD WAS UNIMAGINABLE! HOW? THE FATHER ABIDED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND BOTH OF THEM ABIDED IN THE SON’S!AS THE WORD THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, SO THREE SPIRITS UNITED AS ONE SPIRIT, AND IN THE SAME TIME COULD ALSO FUNCTION IN FULL HARMONY AS INDIVIDUALS!
SO THE WORD BECAME THE FIRST BORN EVIL CREATURE!
SO GOD ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST PERFECT GOD! LUCIFER! LIGHTBEARER
THEN FURTHER ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST EVIL god! THE GOD OF THE WORLD! SATAN! DARKNESS!
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light,( THE WORD) and create darkness,( SATAN) I make peace, ( THE WORD, AS A MEDIATOR GOD)and create evil:( SATAN’S WORK) I the Lord that do all these things.
ALL THROUGH THE WORD NOT AS GOD THE FATHER WHEN HE CREATED LUCIFER IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT AS GOD ALMIGHTY OBVIOUS BOTH GOOD AND EVIL HIDDEN WITHIN DARKNESS, HIS ENEMY TO ACCOMPLISH HIS ENEMIES’ PLAN, AND WITH THE SAME PLAN REDEEMS HIM!
GOD THROUGH THE WORD SPLIT THIS TWO SPIRIT EVIL CREATURE. ONE SPIRIT, WHICH BELONGS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, REMAINED A SPIRIT, THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL, SATAN,EX LUCIFER'S, AND ONE SPIRIT,LUCIFER, WHICH BELONGS TO THE SON, BECAME DUST, MATTER!
SO THE WORD ( CHRISTIANS)AS THE ONLY MEDIATOR, SINCE THEN HAD BEEN CONSUMED, HIDDEN IN BOTH SPIRIT, (SATAN, MUSLIMS) AND MATTER (LUCIFER, JEWS)OBVIOUS THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE.
Matthew 13:44 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a treasure hidden in a field. Which a man having found, hid it, and for joy thereof goeth, and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
GOD THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE CREATION OF OUR WORLD, IS GRADUALLY, PATIENTLY ACQUIRING BACK THIS TWO SPIRIT CREATURE, BUT IN THE FORM OF SPIRITUAL FLESH, CREATURES TWO OPPOSING ELEMENTS UNITED AS ONE, WITH LOVE IN CHARITY, OBVIOUS SACRIFICING THE WORD, THE SON’S SPIRIT BURIED IN THEM [/B] FOR ETERNITY, AND THE FIRST ONE TO ACHIEVE THIS WAS JESUS CHRIST, SATAN'S FANTASY, WHEN GOD UNITED THE HOLY SPIRIT,JESUS SOUL, AND JESUS’SPIRIT.JESUS’FLESH BODY AND BECAME
THE ONLY GOD IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH AND GOD ALMIGHTY ENRICHED HIMSELF ETERNALLY!
AT THE END ALL CREATURES MUST BE LIKE JESUS CHRIST, GODS IN SPIRITUAL FLESH, HE CAME LIKE US, TO MAKE US LIKE HIM
AND THE FATHER WOULD BE ALL IN ALL! AS A SPIRIT, LIKE HE ALWAYS WAS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
FOR YOUR INFORMATION:
THE ONLY MOMENT WHEN SATAN INEFFECTUALY ENTERED JESUS’ SOUL WAS ONLY ON CONCEPTION,
Ezekiel 44:3 For the prince.( Satan) The prince himself shall sit in it,( Mary’s womb) to eat bread before the Lord:( the Holy Spirit) he shall enter in by the way of the porch of the gate, and shall go out by the same way.
Song of Solomon 8:1 Who shall give thee to me ( Jesus) for my brother,( satan) sucking the breasts of my mother, that I may find thee without, and kiss thee, and now no man may despise me? ( sinning)
BUT JESUS REMOVED HIM THROUGH JOHN’S BAPTIZM! AND HE NEVER ENTERED AGAIN, EXCEPT RELUCTANT ON THE CROSS TO LOSE THE BATTLE AND NEVER HAD A GLIMPSE TO REALIZE THAT HE DID SO !
BD,
CARNALWISE WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO ALL THOSE PRESENT, EXCEPT MARY, WHILE JESUS WAS FACING HIS DEATH, TO BE AWARE WHAT WAS GOING ON!
NOW THE QORAN WAS WRITTEN ON THE DIRECTION OF GABRIEL, TO CONFIRM AND REVEAL THE BLINDNESS OF SATAN THROUGHOUT ALL THE PROCESS OF REDEMPTION, EXPRESSED IN ALL MUSLIMS! CARNAL MINDED RELIGION!
Charles
Carmel.I have found many contradictions in your statement,
here is just one of them.QUOTE:
IN THE TIME LUCIFER REMAINED IN GOD’S LOVE, HE CREATED OUR WORLD ,THROUGH GOD’S WISDOM, AND POWER! UNQUOTE:Without him(the word,Jesus) was not anything made that was made.John1:3. Lucifer did not create anything.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,09:31) Carmel. I have found many contradictions in your statement,
here is just one of them.QUOTE:
IN THE TIME LUCIFER REMAINED IN GOD’S LOVE, HE CREATED OUR WORLD ,THROUGH GOD’S WISDOM, AND POWER! UNQUOTE:Without him(the word,Jesus) was not anything made that was made.John1:3. Lucifer did not create anything.
wakeup.
Around 66% of all his posts are filled with messages of Satan/Lucifer. This is the problem with opening up that “trinity” bag of worms. People run wild with it.He actually called Lucifer a perfect God in light of both when he was Lucifer and when he became Satan. In other ords h believes in “gods” just like colter who also believ in “gods”
When you read thi type of stuff and Urantia type stuff you can easily see why I enjoy the Clarity of the Quran which deprives a person of wandering around with endless “god configurations” and demands that the adherent reduce all his thoughts on God to the SUPREME SOVEREIGNTY of ONE GOD with no partners.
That is ONE FACT that cannot be disputed, the Quran leaves absolutely no room for polytheism and Satan worship by calling satan a god on any level
Wakeup,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Without him(the word,Jesus) was not anything made that was made.John1:3. Lucifer did not create anything. Terraricca,
NOT ONE
YOUR ANSWER IS IN THAT POST!
BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ANSWERED QUICKLY,IT PROVES THAT YOUR INTEREST TO CONFRONTING ME IS MUCH MUCH BIGGER THEN GOD'S LOVE!
PLEASE READ AGAIN AND REFLECT ON EVERY WORD THAT I MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN CLEAR ENOUGH,
BUT THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION IS CLEAR AS I WAS VERY KEEN TO MAKE IT CLEAR BUT NOT UNLESS YOU READ WITH THE AIM TO PLEASE GOD NOT YOUR CORRUPTED CARNAL ELEMENTS,LIKE MINE, DENY YOURSELF SO GOD WILL GUIDE YOU
I WOULD BE MORE PLEASED IF YOU WERE TO DISCERN IT YOURSELF RATHER THEN I MAKE YOU SEE THINGS, BECAUSE MY AIM IS TO BE A LIGHT LIKE OTHERS HAVE BEEN ON HEAVEN NET AND UNAWARE OF IT THEY STRENGTHENED MY POINTS BUT THEN THEY SIMPLY BAILED OUT
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote He actually called Lucifer a perfect God BD,
WHERE IS THAT SENTENCE IN MY POST?
ANSWER CAN ALMIGHTY GOD, CREATE A VISIBLE GOD?
YES OR NO?
CHARLES
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 13 2013,17:26) Wakeup,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Without him(the word,Jesus) was not anything made that was made.John1:3. Lucifer did not create anything. Terraricca,
NOT ONE
YOUR ANSWER IS IN THAT POST!
BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ANSWERED QUICKLY,IT PROVES THAT YOUR INTEREST TO CONFRONTING ME IS MUCH MUCH BIGGER THEN GOD'S LOVE!
PLEASE READ AGAIN AND REFLECT ON EVERY WORD THAT I MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN CLEAR ENOUGH,
BUT THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION IS CLEAR AS I WAS VERY KEEN TO MAKE IT CLEAR BUT NOT UNLESS YOU READ WITH THE AIM TO PLEASE GOD NOT YOUR CORRUPTED CARNAL ELEMENTS,LIKE MINE, DENY YOURSELF SO GOD WILL GUIDE YOU
I WOULD BE MORE PLEASED IF YOU WERE TO DISCERN IT YOURSELF RATHER THEN I MAKE YOU SEE THINGS, BECAUSE MY AIM IS TO BE A LIGHT LIKE OTHERS HAVE BEEN ON HEAVEN NET AND UNAWARE OF IT THEY STRENGTHENED MY POINTS BUT THEN THEY SIMPLY BAILED OUT
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Carmel.I am getting very uncomfortable reading your post.
QUOTE:
1John 5:6This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ: not by water only, ( spirit)but by water and blood. ( spirit and matter, Jesus within Satan)And it is the Spirit which testifieth, that Christ is the truth.UNQUOTE:*********************************************
JESUS WITHIN SATAN??? THIS IS NOT TRUE;FOR JESUS HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT, SINCE CONCEPTION. NO EVIL IS FOUND IN HIM.HE IS A PURE SACRIFICE;UNBLEMISHED.
*********************************************QUOTE:
ALTHOUGH HE WAS THE MOST EVIL CREATURE WHICH HIS HATRED FOR GOD WAS UNIMAGINABLE! HOW? THE FATHER ABIDED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND BOTH OF THEM ABIDED IN THE SON’S!AS THE WORD THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD, SO THREE SPIRITS UNITED AS ONE SPIRIT, AND IN THE SAME TIME COULD ALSO FUNCTION IN FULL HARMONY AS INDIVIDUALS!UNQUOTE:*********************************************
YOUR HOLY TRINITY HAS LUCIFER/SATAN IN IT???
*********************************************QUOTE:
SO THE WORD BECAME THE FIRST BORN EVIL CREATURE! UNQUOTE:*********************************************
WHAT?? THE WORD OF GOD IS THE FIRST EVIL??
ONLY GOD IS GOOD,GOD IS LOVE.GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD,THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.
JESUS THE WORD,DIED FOR US. HE TEACHES;LOVE THY NIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.
*********************************************QUOTE:
SO GOD ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST PERFECT GOD! LUCIFER! LIGHTBEARER
UNQUOTE:*********************************************
LUCIFER IS THE MOST PERFECT GOD??
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? GOD ENRICHED HIMSELF??
WAS NOT GOD ALL IN ALL FROM EVERLASTING?
*********************************************QUOTE:
THEN FURTHER ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST EVIL god! THE GOD OF THE WORLD! SATAN! DARKNESS! UNQUOTE:*********************************************
GOD CREATED LUCIFER FULL OF WISDOM AND PERFECT
IN BEAUTY.EZ.28:12.13. HE DID NOT CREATE LUCIFER
THE MOST EVIL.
*********************************************May I ask? of what denomination church are you?
wakeup.
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 13 2013,17:31) bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote He actually called Lucifer a perfect God BD,
WHERE IS THAT SENTENCE IN MY POST?
ANSWER CAN ALMIGHTY GOD, CREATE A VISIBLE GOD?
YES OR NO?
CHARLES
Quote SO GOD ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST PERFECT GOD! LUCIFER! LIGHTBEARER THEN FURTHER ENRICHED HIMSELF WHEN HE CREATED THE FIRST MOST EVIL god! THE GOD OF THE WORLD! SATAN! DARKNESS!
It's strange you don't even know what you have written and NO God cannot create a God aording to all known scripture because by nature God is UNCREATED, God is UNIQUE
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 13 2013,06:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,00:53) Boditharta. God spoke to prophets of many generations,not just one
generations.
And all that is the old testament;of the one spirit.
The new testament; God spoke through his son,and recorded by the apostles; all the same spirit.The whole bible is one book writen by the many vessels of God. The bible is one book;of the one author,and he is God.
wakeup.
But it's not one book, if it were the Jews would have the same book but The Christians took the Torah and the books of the Prophets and added those to their collection of books and then simply called the collection of theJewish books the “Old Testament” The Jews don't consider their Holy books the “Old Testament”.Luke 1
New International Version (NIV)
Introduction
1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.
So after all these books you seem to find it strang that God would reveal 1 more and yes there was a Gap between the OT and NT approx 400 years time difference.
Also yes a revelation from God was needed at that time because Christianity had become extremely corrupted an pollutedfrom it's original state:
Boditharta.There can be *no gap*; the new testament is a continuation of the old. Jesus was born whilest the jews are under the old testament.
God in sundry times spoke *TO* the prophets.(OLD TEST.)
And in these days speaks *THROUGH* HIS SON.(NEW TEST.).Islam has a 650year gap.(black hole).
It took satan that long to dream up a new religion.
A religion that *agrees*, and also *disagrees*,to cause confusion. A religion that accept jesus,*but not* his sacrifice. Accept that he is the son of God,*but not* the only begotten son of God;for he is just a prophet like mohamad. Accept that he went up to heaven *bot not* sacrificed.wakeup.
bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote the Quran leaves absolutely no room for polytheism and Satan worship by calling satan a god on any level BD,
WITH YOUR BLA, BLA, BLA, CONFIRMED THAT YOU DIDN’T UNDERSTAND WHAT I POSTED!
GOD CREATED AN ANGEL, AND THROUGH THIS ANGEL LUCIFER HE CREATED ALL THE SPIRITUAL REALMS!
IN ORDER TO DO SO AND IN THE SAME TIME ALLOW HIM TO BE IN TOTAL FREEDOM, LIKE HIMSELF, GOD ABIDED IN HIM AS THE WORD THIS MADE IT POSSIBLE BOTH FOR GOD TO REMAIN IN FULL CONTROL,AND IN THE SAME TIME MAKE LUCIFER BELIEVE WHAT HE WANTED TO BELIEVE, EVEN THAT HE COULD DEFEAT GOD IN THE RACE TO ACHIEVE MANHOOD! AND BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH!
GOD AS I EXPLAINED FROM THE START OF OUR CREATION DID WHAT SATAN/LUCIFER CONSIDERED CAPABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. NOT ONLY THAT BUT GOD THROUGH THE WORD PERFECTED ALL WHAT SATAN BELIEVED THAT HE ACCOMPLISHED! SO GOD WAS THE AUTHOR OF BOTH GOOD AND EVIL, BOTH GOD OF HEAVEN AND GOD OF THE WORLD! BUT OBVIOUS HE HAD TO BE WITHIN SATAN HIMSELF, BUT NOT AS THE FATHER, BUT AS THE SON, THE FATHER WITHIN THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IN BETWEEN TO GIVE THE SON ALL THE ENTIRE POWER WITHIN!
SO:
THE WORD WAS AND IS BURIED IN THE MATTER, IN HUMANS AND IN ALL THE ENTIRE SPIRITS, NO MATTER WHAT!THEREFORE THE WORD IS
THE WORLD
HUMANS
AND ITS VERSATILE SPIRITS!
INCLUDING SATAN HIMSELF!
ALL IN HIM ALL BY HIM AND ALL FOR HIM!
ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST, THE BEGINNING AND THE END! BUT AS THE WORD
THE FATHER REMAINED IN HEAVEN WAITING FOR THE WORD TO RETURN FULLY GLORIFIED IN ALL HIS WORK! WHERE HE IS!
ISAIAH 55:11 So shall my word be, which shall go forth from my mouth: it shall not return to me void, but it shall do whatsoever I please, and shall prosper in the things for which I sent it.
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and in him. 17And he is before all, and by him all things consist. 18And he is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he may hold the primacy: 19Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that all fullness should dwell; 20And through him to reconcile all things unto himself, making peace through the blood of his cross, both as to the things that are on earth, and the things that are in heaven.
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 13 2013,12:26) Wakeup,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Without him(the word,Jesus) was not anything made that was made.John1:3. Lucifer did not create anything. Terraricca,
NOT ONE
YOUR ANSWER IS IN THAT POST!
BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ANSWERED QUICKLY,IT PROVES THAT YOUR INTEREST TO CONFRONTING ME IS MUCH MUCH BIGGER THEN GOD'S LOVE!
PLEASE READ AGAIN AND REFLECT ON EVERY WORD THAT I MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN CLEAR ENOUGH,
BUT THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION IS CLEAR AS I WAS VERY KEEN TO MAKE IT CLEAR BUT NOT UNLESS YOU READ WITH THE AIM TO PLEASE GOD NOT YOUR CORRUPTED CARNAL ELEMENTS,LIKE MINE, DENY YOURSELF SO GOD WILL GUIDE YOU
I WOULD BE MORE PLEASED IF YOU WERE TO DISCERN IT YOURSELF RATHER THEN I MAKE YOU SEE THINGS, BECAUSE MY AIM IS TO BE A LIGHT LIKE OTHERS HAVE BEEN ON HEAVEN NET AND UNAWARE OF IT THEY STRENGTHENED MY POINTS BUT THEN THEY SIMPLY BAILED OUT
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
THIS IS FOR WAKEUP
bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote It's strange you don't even know what you have written and NO God cannot create a God BD,
John 10:34Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law:
I said you are gods? 35If he called them gods, to whom the word of God was spoken, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Gods can be created!
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 14 2013,07:39) bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote It's strange you don't even know what you have written and NO God cannot create a God BD,
John 10:34Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law:
I said you are gods? 35If he called them gods, to whom the word of God was spoken, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Gods can be created!
Charles
So either that was a metaphor or you believe that you are a god. Which is it?bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote So either that was a metaphor or you believe that you are a god. Which is it? BD,
AS I AM, A SOUL! I AM THE TEMPLE OF GOD
JESUS SAID:
DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND I WILL RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS!
SO MINE SHALL BE AS WELL! NOT IN THREE DAYS FOR SURE!
BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS I WILL BE GOD LIKE JESUS IS NOW
John 17:20 And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me; 21That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, as we also are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me; that they may be made perfect in one: and the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast also loved me. 24Father, I will that where I am, they also whom thou hast given me may be with me; that they may see my glory which thou hast given me, because thou hast loved me before the creation of the world.
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 14 2013,18:21) bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote So either that was a metaphor or you believe that you are a god. Which is it? BD,
AS I AM, A SOUL! I AM THE TEMPLE OF GOD
JESUS SAID:
DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND I WILL RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS!
SO MINE SHALL BE AS WELL! NOT IN THREE DAYS FOR SURE!
BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS I WILL BE GOD LIKE JESUS IS NOW
John 17:20 And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me; 21That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, as we also are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me; that they may be made perfect in one: and the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast also loved me. 24Father, I will that where I am, they also whom thou hast given me may be with me; that they may see my glory which thou hast given me, because thou hast loved me before the creation of the world.
Charles
So was that a metaphor or are you a god?calling yourself a “temple of God” is that a metaphor? If it's not you are saying that you are a temple of God that will turn into an actual God. what happens when you turn into an actual God what will you do with God's temple?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 15 2013,13:50) Quote (carmel @ Aug. 14 2013,18:21) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,12:29) Quote So either that was a metaphor or you believe that you are a god. Which is it? BD,
AS I AM, A SOUL! I AM THE TEMPLE OF GOD
JESUS SAID:
DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND I WILL RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS!
SO MINE SHALL BE AS WELL! NOT IN THREE DAYS FOR SURE!
BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS I WILL BE GOD LIKE JESUS IS NOW
John 17:20 And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me; 21That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, as we also are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me; that they may be made perfect in one: and the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast also loved me. 24Father, I will that where I am, they also whom thou hast given me may be with me; that they may see my glory which thou hast given me, because thou hast loved me before the creation of the world.
Charles
So was that a metaphor or are you a god?calling yourself a “temple of God” is that a metaphor? If it's not you are saying that you are a temple of God that will turn into an actual God. what happens when you turn into an actual God what will you do with God's temple?
Boditharta.Jesus indeed said; *YE ARE GODS*.
He calls us gods simply because we now know good, and evil;and we can make our own choices.
And we also can create great things.
Because we are made in the image of God.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
in the bible? But that seems to be the question you are answering.
Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”
I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:32) Hi Wakeup, It seems to me that Boditharta DIDN'T ask: why is *YE ARE GODS* written
in the bible? But that seems to be the question you are answering.Instead (I believe) he asked “ARE YOU A GOD?”
I too would like to hear your answer to his real question.Ed J
Hi EdJ.Jesus said ye; speaking to the crowd.
That makes us also gods.
We know what is good and evil;and we can make our own decisions.We can choose how to live our lives.
We also can create things.
We are the children of God,and that makes us gods,with a conscience.wakeup.
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