Quran proven 100% true

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,08:12) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF; BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? Are Mormons true followers? bod Quote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO? bod Mormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism, Actually they are not called Mormons officially they are The Church of latter day saints. So you say they are not true Followers How aout Jehovah's witness'? Are they true Followers? Yes or No? BOD are going to ask me every so called religion I told you ;the TRUE BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST LIKE ,OR ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LIKE CHRIST That would make Muslims more Christ like than Christians because Christians don't act like Christ they worsgip Christ instead of God or along with God but JESUS worshiped GOD and taught his disciples to WORSHIP GOD ALONE. Christians do not do this, well not most of them.

bod

Islam or Moslims can not under any condition be true believers in the father of Christ or Christ ,if it would be so ,they would not be called the followers of the man Mahommad a criminel ,and a writher of his own book on his own religion views ,if you believe this ,that as Muslim and follower of the quran you can be accepted by Christ and his father and God ,you are out of your mind or you do not know Christ or his father

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,09:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,08:12) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF; BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? Are Mormons true followers? bod Quote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO? bod Mormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism, Actually they are not called Mormons officially they are The Church of latter day saints. So you say they are not true Followers How aout Jehovah's witness'? Are they true Followers? Yes or No? BOD are going to ask me every so called religion I told you ;the TRUE BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST LIKE ,OR ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LIKE CHRIST That would make Muslims more Christ like than Christians because Christians don't act like Christ they worsgip Christ instead of God or along with God but JESUS worshiped GOD and taught his disciples to WORSHIP GOD ALONE. Christians do not do this, well not most of them. bod Islam or Moslims can not under any condition be true believers in the father of Christ or Christ ,if it would be so ,they would not be called the followers of the man Mahommad a criminel ,and a writher of his own book on his own religion views ,if you believe this ,that as Muslim and follower of the quran you can be accepted by Christ and his father and God ,you are out of your mind or you do not know Christ or his father

okay, our discussion is over we will see on the day of judgement who is right, until then Peace be upon you!

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,15:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,09:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,08:12) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF; BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? Are Mormons true followers? bod Quote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO? bod Mormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism, Actually they are not called Mormons officially they are The Church of latter day saints. So you say they are not true Followers How aout Jehovah's witness'? Are they true Followers? Yes or No? BOD are going to ask me every so called religion I told you ;the TRUE BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST LIKE ,OR ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LIKE CHRIST That would make Muslims more Christ like than Christians because Christians don't act like Christ they worsgip Christ instead of God or along with God but JESUS worshiped GOD and taught his disciples to WORSHIP GOD ALONE. Christians do not do this, well not most of them. bod Islam or Moslims can not under any condition be true believers in the father of Christ or Christ ,if it would be so ,they would not be called the followers of the man Mahommad a criminel ,and a writher of his own book on his own religion views ,if you believe this ,that as Muslim and follower of the quran you can be accepted by Christ and his father and God ,you are out of your mind or you do not know Christ or his father okay, our discussion is over we will see on the day of judgement who is right, until then Peace be upon you!

Bod

Ok,your tittle as been answered ,and yes it is over, but you still have an open invitation by Jehovah God the father ,of Christ that as given his life to save men ,of their sins,

Only dead can put a stop to your respond to his call,it is your call

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,11:37) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,15:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,09:03) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,08:12) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF; BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? Are Mormons true followers? bod Quote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO? bod Mormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism, Actually they are not called Mormons officially they are The Church of latter day saints. So you say they are not true Followers How aout Jehovah's witness'? Are they true Followers? Yes or No? BOD are going to ask me every so called religion I told you ;the TRUE BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST LIKE ,OR ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LIKE CHRIST That would make Muslims more Christ like than Christians because Christians don't act like Christ they worsgip Christ instead of God or along with God but JESUS worshiped GOD and taught his disciples to WORSHIP GOD ALONE. Christians do not do this, well not most of them. bod Islam or Moslims can not under any condition be true believers in the father of Christ or Christ ,if it would be so ,they would not be called the followers of the man Mahommad a criminel ,and a writher of his own book on his own religion views ,if you believe this ,that as Muslim and follower of the quran you can be accepted by Christ and his father and God ,you are out of your mind or you do not know Christ or his father okay, our discussion is over we will see on the day of judgement who is right, until then Peace be upon you! Bod Ok,your tittle as been answered ,and yes it is over, but you still have an open invitation by Jehovah God the father ,of Christ that as given his life to save men ,of their sins, Only dead can put a stop to your respond to his call,it is your call

I have already answered the Call but you are looking to be pleased but should I please you or God Almighty. I Love YHWH/YHVH/JEHOVAH/ELOHIM/ELAH/ELOI/ALLAH/ALAHA

You just don't understand who you worship o out of ignorance you condemn others but you lack so much information my dear one.

Did you know Abraham did not know God the name YHWH/YHVH or the name Jehovah? You didn't know that did you?

Learning is thebest way to understand but aftr you learn something the question is can you accept it?

[terraricca]

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I have already answered the Call but you are looking to be pleased but should I please you or God Almighty. I Love YHWH/YHVH/JEHOVAH/ELOHIM/ELAH/ELOI/ALLAH/ALAHA You just don't understand who you worship o out of ignorance you condemn others but you lack so much information my dear one. Did you know Abraham did not know God the name YHWH/YHVH or the name Jehovah? You didn't know that did you? Learning is thebest way to understand but aftr you learn something the question is can you accept it?

the bible start with Adam and ends with Christ CALL TO ALL MEN  not Muhammad ,

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I have already answered the Call

you mean the call of Halla or Muslims god,not the God of Christ ,other wise we would be on the same seat so to speak

you can compose and cut and built sentences out of scriptures it will never be the truth ,THE TRUTH HIS GODS WORDS AND CAN NOT BE CHANGED,THE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT THE QURAN AND CHRIST IS NOT MUHAMMAD AND MUHAMMAD HIS NOT THE SON OF JEHOVAH GOD WERE CHRIST HIS IS SON HE HIS THE TRUE PROPHET ,THE TRUE SHEPHERD ,SO MUHAMMAD MUST BE THE FALSE ONE ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES ,

you can ask me to silence and stop talking ,but that would never change the fact that the Muslims are not followers of Christ period,

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bod Quote I have already answered the Call but you are looking to be pleased but should I please you or God Almighty. I Love YHWH/YHVH/JEHOVAH/ELOHIM/ELAH/ELOI/ALLAH/ALAHA You just don't understand who you worship o out of ignorance you condemn others but you lack so much information my dear one. Did you know Abraham did not know God the name YHWH/YHVH or the name Jehovah? You didn't know that did you? Learning is thebest way to understand but aftr you learn something the question is can you accept it? the bible start with Adam and ends with Christ CALL TO ALL MEN  not Muhammad , Quote I have already answered the Call you mean the call of Halla or Muslims god,not the God of Christ ,other wise we would be on the same seat so to speak you can compose and cut and built sentences out of scriptures it will never be the truth ,THE TRUTH HIS GODS WORDS AND CAN NOT BE CHANGED,THE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT THE QURAN AND CHRIST IS NOT MUHAMMAD AND MUHAMMAD HIS NOT THE SON OF JEHOVAH GOD WERE CHRIST HIS IS SON HE HIS THE TRUE PROPHET ,THE TRUE SHEPHERD ,SO MUHAMMAD MUST BE THE FALSE ONE ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES , you can ask me to silence and stop talking ,but that would never change the fact that the Muslims are not followers of Christ period,

Exodus 6:3
and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Those are the words of God not my words.

Yes Christ is a true prophet but how would tht make Muhammad false?

The scriptures in the Quran came 600 years after Jesus why do you assume God did not provide another prophet Jesus didn't say there would not be another prophet coming.

He did say though that as far a Israel is concerned John was the Last prophet because the Messiah promised to them had arrived. So no true Jewish prophet or Messiah could come after him.

So God sent Muhammad and revealed to Muhammad The Glorious Quran that spoke of Jesus in great clarity and destroying the false charges that Christians had put upon him.

You even agree with most of those thingsthat Christians especially at that time began preaching: The Trinity, Jesus is God. Mary is the Mother of God, Jesus and God are partners… all these false allegations are addressed in the Quran. Glory to God!

Psalm 57:2
I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.

[Ed J]

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The scriptures in the Quran came 600 years after Jesus why do you assume God did not provide another prophet Jesus didn't say there would not be another prophet coming.

Hi BD,  why do you lie?

“The law and the prophets were until John: since
 that time the kingdom of God is preached” (Luke 16:16)

Ed (witness)

[Ed J]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 08 2013,12:45) The scriptures in the Quran came 600 years after Jesus why do you assume God did not provide another prophet Jesus didn't say there would not be another prophet coming. Hi BD,  why do you lie?   “The law and the prophets were until John: since  that time the kingdom of God is preached” (Luke 16:16) Ed (witness)

Muhammad didn't even know what the kingdom of God is.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 08 2013,07:58) bod Quote I have already answered the Call but you are looking to be pleased but should I please you or God Almighty. I Love YHWH/YHVH/JEHOVAH/ELOHIM/ELAH/ELOI/ALLAH/ALAHA You just don't understand who you worship o out of ignorance you condemn others but you lack so much information my dear one. Did you know Abraham did not know God the name YHWH/YHVH or the name Jehovah? You didn't know that did you? Learning is thebest way to understand but aftr you learn something the question is can you accept it? the bible start with Adam and ends with Christ CALL TO ALL MEN  not Muhammad , Quote I have already answered the Call you mean the call of Halla or Muslims god,not the God of Christ ,other wise we would be on the same seat so to speak you can compose and cut and built sentences out of scriptures it will never be the truth ,THE TRUTH HIS GODS WORDS AND CAN NOT BE CHANGED,THE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT THE QURAN AND CHRIST IS NOT MUHAMMAD AND MUHAMMAD HIS NOT THE SON OF JEHOVAH GOD WERE CHRIST HIS IS SON HE HIS THE TRUE PROPHET ,THE TRUE SHEPHERD ,SO MUHAMMAD MUST BE THE FALSE ONE ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES , you can ask me to silence and stop talking ,but that would never change the fact that the Muslims are not followers of Christ period, Exodus 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. Those are the words of God not my words. Yes Christ is a true prophet but how would tht make Muhammad false? The scriptures in the Quran came 600 years after Jesus why do you assume God did not provide another prophet Jesus didn't say there would not be another prophet coming. He did say though that as far a Israel is concerned John was the Last prophet because the Messiah promised to them had arrived. So no true Jewish prophet or Messiah could come after him. So God sent Muhammad and revealed to Muhammad The Glorious Quran that spoke of Jesus in great clarity and destroying the false charges that Christians had put upon him. You even agree with most of those thingsthat Christians especially at that time began preaching: The Trinity, Jesus is God. Mary is the Mother of God, Jesus and God are partners… all these false allegations are addressed in the Quran. Glory to God! Psalm 57:2 I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.

bod

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The scriptures in the Quran came 600 years after Jesus why do you assume God did not provide another prophet Jesus didn't say there would not be another prophet coming.

what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God

did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God NO

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

The only thing the false prophet Muhammad has brought is: hatred, war, violence, and killings,
towards all of his brethren here on Earth; and a rejection of the true GOD of the bible – YHVH!
'al-Lah' is satan the devil.  (see Gal. 1:8  &  2Cor. 11:14)  masquerading as the Angel Gabriel.

Ed (witness)

[terraricca]

edj

I know ,

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 08 2013,12:45) The scriptures in the Quran came 600 years after Jesus why do you assume God did not provide another prophet Jesus didn't say there would not be another prophet coming. Hi BD,  why do you lie?   “The law and the prophets were until John: since  that time the kingdom of God is preached” (Luke 16:16) Ed (witness)

These were the Jewish prophets in regards to the prophecy concerning the Messiah. There were prophets after John including Jesus:

Luke 24:19
And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:

So the statement of Jesus was exclusively about Messianic Prophets an there are no more because the Promise was fulfilled in Christ Jesus but Prophets were still coming.

Acts 11:27
And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.

Acts 13:1
Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

Acts 15:32
And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them

Acts 21:10
And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judæa a certain prophet, named Agabus.

Do you still consider John the last prophet? r were all these prophets false prophets.

As I said I realize you have a great love for God and being very intelligent wish only to please God. I do consider what you write I then think about it and see where the Spirit of God guides me. I write back the results.You have invested an incredible amount of time gaining what you have with God so naturally you can't just quickly change anything you have spent so much time believing but I hope you look at the post and seeing that for a certainty there were other prophets after John you could add that to things we both agree on.

God Bless you!

[bodhitharta]

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what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God NO

muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.

( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)

Surah 35

34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,

35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us.

The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah”

No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that?

Do you also Worship Jesus?

[Ed J]

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 09 2013,02:18) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 08 2013,12:45) The scriptures in the Quran came 600 years after Jesus why do you assume God did not provide another prophet Jesus didn't say there would not be another prophet coming. Hi BD,  why do you lie?   “The law and the prophets were until John: since  that time the kingdom of God is preached” (Luke 16:16) Ed (witness) These were the Jewish prophets in regards to the prophecy concerning the Messiah. There were prophets after John including Jesus: Luke 24:19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: So the statement of Jesus was exclusively about Messianic Prophets an there are no more because the Promise was fulfilled in Christ Jesus but Prophets were still coming. Acts 11:27 And in these days came prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch. Acts 13:1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. Acts 15:32 And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them Acts 21:10 And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judæa a certain prophet, named Agabus. Do you still consider John the last prophet? r were all these prophets false prophets. As I said I realize you have a great love for God and being very intelligent wish only to please God. I do consider what you write I then think about it and see where the Spirit of God guides me. I write back the results.You have invested an incredible amount of time gaining what you have with God so naturally you can't just quickly change anything you have spent so much time believing but I hope you look at the post and seeing that for a certainty there were other prophets after John you could add that to things we both agree on. God Bless you!

Since that time the kingdom of God is preached

Muhammad didn't preach the kingdom of God, because he didn't know there was such a thing.

[Ed J]

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muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful. (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144)

Hi BD,

You mean 'al-Lah' didn't know that Muhammad would die by eating a poison lamb?

Ed (witness)

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 09 2013,14:41) muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful. (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144) Hi BD, You mean 'al-Lah' didn't know that Muhammad would die by eating a poison lamb? Ed (witness)

I'm not sure of that story but that would prove Muhammad was a True Prophet even more:

First thing to note is that even if the Prophet (peace be upon him did die from the poison right away then that does not disprove his Prophethood since the Jews had a history of killing Prophets…

Matthew 23:37

37″O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,02:31) what as Muhammad to offer does he brings from God everlasting life in the kingdom of God did Muhammad resurrected ,does is preachings brings fore ward the love for the true God NO muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful. (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #144) Surah 35 34 And they say: Praise be to Allah Who hath put grief away from us. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful,     35 Who, of His grace, hath installed us in the mansion of eternity, where toil toucheth us not nor can weariness affect us. The message given to Muhammad straightens the path of TRUE WORSHIP. THE ONE TRUE GOD is Praised nd Worshiped without partners. In Islam you really can WORSHIP GOD with all your heart soul and mind but your main concern is Jesus the one sent by God. You make him equal in your worship or many Christians make him excel God even som calling him the only true god. I hear them calling Jesus “Jehovah” No Muslim calls Muhammad “Allah”(God forbid) but Christians easily cancel out the Sovereignty of GOD ALMIGHTY. Why is that? Do you also Worship Jesus?

bod

so he did not offer anything that was already given ,but he offers brutality ,crime and abuse ,look at the entire Muslims countries , all are in violence ,and yet abuses are still going on ,to many to write,

[carmel]

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I'm not sure of that story but that would prove Muhammad was a True Prophet even more: First thing to note is that even if the Prophet (peace be upon him did die from the poison right away then that does not disprove his Prophethood since the Jews had a history of killing Prophets…

BD,

ONLY BEFORE JESUS DEATH THEY KILLED THEM!

I am sure you know about it, but you simply are HIDING BEHIND YOUR FINGER! FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT TRUE GOD'S PROPHETS ENDED WITH JOHN!

NOW READ:

MARK 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils: they shall speak with new tongues. 18They shall take up serpents;

and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them:

they shall lay their hands upon the sick, and they shall recover.

SO SINCE MAHOMMET DIED POISENED HE IS NOT OF GOD!

Charles

[terraricca]

Charles

you have a good point there

[carmel]

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Abraham did't kill or sacrifice his son so where ithe symbology coming from?

BD,

Keep in mind a fundamental truth which is : FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING, IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKEN

SO WHEN YOU WANT TO DISCERN GOD'S WORK LOOK FROM THE SPIRIT POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE FROM THE FLESH POINT OF VIEW IS SATANIC!

Your MUSLIM human intellect is only able to understand profound truth to a certain
degree, because pure SPIRITUALITY is only spiritually explainable, to all those who live genuinely in CHRIST IN FULL not as a human being only, like you believe he was. Jesus Christ is now GLORIFIED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ONE GLORY OF THE FATHER, THEREFORE GOD IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH Therefore as a human being  HE IS NON EXISTANT! And the spirit who is an authority over the flesh, is Satan!  

ANOTHER FUNDAMENTAL:

JESUS CHRIST TOPPLED ALL ONTO HIMSELF THROUGH HIS OWN PARTICULAR DEATH,WHICH CARNAL WISE SEEMED A NORMAL DEATH BUT INSTEAD IT WASN'T

NOW:

THE FACT THAT JESUS CAME BACK TO LIFE AFTER THREE DAYS, IN REALITY HE NEVER DIED, IN THE SAME SENSE LIKE WE DO!

The Koran confirms this but it is hidden in the literal sense, since it is carnal minded revelation!

So as soon as Jesus said to his Father, “IN YOUR HAND I LEAVE MY SPIRIT”,
His flesh body, never maintained the same state like it was when he was alive, OBVIOUSLY, but continued the spiritual process! There was no kind of postponement from state of being alive in the flesh, to the state of being alive in the spirit! JESUS CONFIRMED:

John 13: 32 If God be glorified in him, God also will glorify him in himself; and IMMEDIATELY  will he glorify him.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself

IT IS AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL!

IT HAD TO BE SINCE HE WAS THE ETERNAL LIFE!

SO THE STORY OF ABRAHAM WAS TO PREDICT THAT JESUS WOULD  LIVE THROUGH THE SUPPOSED DEATH!

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NOW READ HEREUNDER: Romans 1: For the INVISIBLE THINGS of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE; his eternal power also, and DIVINITY: so that they are inexcusable.

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Yes the things you call CARNAL area reflection of wh you call SPIRITUAL so you have no excuse

NO AS I SAID ABOVE, THE TROUBLE WITH YOU MUSLIMS, YOU ONLY ACCEPT, AND DISCERN WHAT IS CARNAL,AND EARTHLY, WHICH BELONG TO SATAN, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE DAYS WHEN THE KORAN WAS WRITTEN! DUE TO THE FACT THAT:

(A) THE JEWS HAD THEIR BIBLE,  A  REFERENCE REGARDING THE FLESH AND BLOOD BODY WHICH ITS ORIGIN WAS LUCIFER’S SPIRIT CARRIER! MANIFESTED IN THEIR WAY OF LIVING!

(B)THE CHRISTIANS HAD THEIR SCRIPTURE , A  REFERENCE REGARDING THE SOUL, OBVIOUS JESUS’SUBSTANCE, THROUGH THE WORDMANIFESTED IN THEIR WAY OF LIVING!

 THERE WAS LEFT ONLY TO BE PUBLISHED THE KORAN FOR THE MUSLIMS, A REFERENCE TO THE SPIRIT SATAN’S,ALSO  EX LUCIFER'S WHICH WAS REMOVED FROM HUMANS’SOULS! AND ENDED WITHOUT A WRITTEN BELIEF, MANIFESTED IN THEIR WAY OF LIVING!

THE REASON THAT THE KORAN HAS A MIXED, CORRUPTED WRITTEN BELIEF DERIVED BOTH FROM THE JEWS, AND THE CHRISTIANS!

AS I SAID THESE THREE RELIGIONS ARE ALL ABRAHAM DISCENDANTS, AND THEY MANIFEST THE MAN IN SPIRIT, SOULS AND FLESH!
 

SO SINCE ABRAHAM HAD INTERCOURSE BOTH WITH SARAH, AND HAGAR, FOR YOU MUSLIMS, CARNAL MINDED RELIGION  ARE CONCLUDING THAT IT IS THE SAME SEED! OBVIOUS CARNAL WISE! IT IS! BUT SPIRIT WISE IT ISN'T FOR SURE! 

WHICH EVEN TODAY, IT IS QUITE UNDERSTANDABLE, THAT IF A MARRIED MUSLIM BETRAY HIS WIFE AND HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH ANOTHER WOMAN, DEFINITELY IT WOULD BE AN EVIL ACT, SO THE SPIRIT WHICH ENTERRED IN THE SPERM WOULD NOT  BE THE SAME SPIRIT WHICH ENTERRED HIS SAME SPERM WHILE HE HAD INTERCOURSE WITH HIS WIFE.

THAT’S WHERE WE MUST RESPECT THE FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT BY JESUS CHRIST, THE TRUTH, THAT:

THE FLESH SPERM COUNTS FOR NOTHING IT IS THE SPIRIT WHICH QUICKEN! OK?

SO HAGAR RECEIVED SATAN’S SPIRIT!

AND SARAH RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT!

WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORD JESUS’ SPIRIT WAS STILL HIDDEN IN SATAN’S, BUT NOW IT’S UP TO YOU TO BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER. AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BECOME A CHRISTIAN,

THAT WOULD BE THE DAY!!!!

Mine :

SO IT IS CLEAR THAT WHOEVER WANTS TO KNOW  THE SECRET THINGS OF GOD IT IS DEFINITELY HIDDEN IN THE SCRIPTURES! NOW IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL HOW HUMBLE, AND IN  LOVE TO GOD HE PRAYS IN ORDER TO DISCERN HIS THINGS!

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God's ways are HIGHER than yours what secret do you want to know when GOD toldyou plainly what to do?

THERE YOU ARE! YOU ONLY SPEAK LIKE THAT SINCE YOU ARE A MUSLIM, CARNAL MINDED! THE MORE YOU DENY YOURSELF, AND LOVE GOD IN THE TRUTH, THE MORE HE SHOWS YOU HIS MYSTERIES

THIS:

James 1:5 But if any of you want wisdom, let him ask of God, who giveth to all men abundantly, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea, which is moved and carried about by the wind. 7Therefore let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. 8A double minded man is inconstant in all his ways.

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you. 8For every one that asketh, receiveth: and he that seeketh, findeth: and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened.

SATAN’S SPIRIT HAD THE RIGHT TO OWN ALL MALE FIRSTBORNS, AFTER ADAM SIN! WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, WHICH WERE ALL THE WORK BY THE HOLY SPIRIT! COMMENCED BY SETH! SO,SINCE ABRAHAM WAS CALLED BY GOD, IT STANDS TO REASON, THAT ABRAHAM WAS OF THE  GENERATION OF HEAVEN, HE  WAS OF THE  HOLY SPIRIT!

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This is just a LIE fo GOD SAID: Numbers 3:13 Because all the firstborn are mine; for on the day that I smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt I hallowed unto me all the firstborn in Israel, both man and beast: mine shall they be: I am the Lord.

YES AGAIN: FUNDFAMENTAL:

FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING, GOD IS REFERRING TO THE SPIRIT NOT TO THE FLESH!ALL FLESH WAS SATAN’S

SO THE CIRCUMSISION WAS A SATANIC ACT EXTERNALLY, EVEN THE EGYPTIANS
USED IT, BUT SPIRITUALLY WAS GOD’S

WHEN WILL YOU CARNAL MINDED RELIGION BELIEVE THAT GOD IS SPIRIT, AND WHEN HE SPEAKS AND WORKS, IN GENERSAL HE IS ALWAYS  CONCERNED OF HIS OWN SPIRIT WHICH ALL ARE NO MATTER WHOES!

GOD DID HIS WORK IN THE OT HIDDEN IN  THE ENTIRE WORK OF THE GOD OF THE WORLD! SATAN’S

JESUS REVEALED HIM!  

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I stopped there because this showed your lack of discernment according to the scriptures

I DON’T BLAME YOU FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKEN! SO A  CARNAL MINDED MUSLIM IS INFERIOR TO SPIRITUAL MINDED PERSON!

Charles

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