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Quote (carmel @ Aug. 06 2013,07:01) Quote Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 02 2013,12:48) Quote That would mean according to your logic tree
That (Abraham) God the Father had sex with (Hagar)Eve and created (Ishmael) SatanBD
WITH THE ABOVE STATEMENT YOU CONFIRMED THAT YOUR RELIGION IS A CARNAL MINDED RELIGION
Those were your words and logic tree not mine.
Quote FIRST OF ALL I WROTE: ABRAHAM SYMBOLICALLY GOD THE FATHER, HOLY ,HEAVENLY ELEMENT SPIRIT
AS YOU CAN SEE I MADE AN EMPHASIS ON THE PHRASE HEAVENLY ELEMENT SPIRIT
SO I AM MORE REFERRING TO THE SPIRIT RATHER THAN GOD BUT I HAD TO SPECIFY WHICH SPIRIT IS!
Abraham did't kill or sacrifice his son so where ithe symbology coming from?
Quote SO GOD COULD NEVER HAVE INTERCOURSE, BUT THROUGH HIS SPIRIT, THE HOLY SPIRIT, WITHIN HUMANS, HE ACHIEVES WHATEVER HE WANTS! AND THAT PROCEDURE HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE OT! FROM SETH TILL JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS BORN! THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN! I'm glad you aree!
Quote NOW READ HEREUNDER: Romans 1: For the INVISIBLE THINGS of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE; his eternal power also, and DIVINITY: so that they are inexcusable.
Yes the things you call CARNAL area reflection of wh you call SPIRITUAL so you have no excuse
Quote SO IT IS CLEAR THAT WHOEVER WANTS TO KNOW THE SECRET THINGS OF GOD IT IS DEFINITELY HIDDEN IN THE SCRIPTURES! NOW IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL HOW HUMBLE, AND IN LOVE TO GOD HE PRAYS IN ORDER TO DISCERN HIS THINGS! God's ways are HIGHER than yours what secret do you want to know when GOD toldyou plainly what to do?
Quote SATAN’S SPIRIT HAD THE RIGHT TO OWN ALL MALE FIRSTBORNS, AFTER ADAM SIN! WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, WHICH WERE ALL THE WORK BY THE HOLY SPIRIT! COMMENCED BY SETH! SO,SINCE ABRAHAM WAS CALLED BY GOD, IT STANDS TO REASON, THAT ABRAHAM WAS OF THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, HE WAS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT! This is just a LIE fo GOD SAID:
Numbers 3:13
Because all the firstborn are mine; for on the day that I smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt I hallowed unto me all the firstborn in Israel, both man and beast: mine shall they be: I am the Lord.I stopped there because this showed your lack of discernment according to the scriptures
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,12:52) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,11:41)
They hate their Jewish and Christian brothers.
And they hate each other as well. Read the news.
EDTake a look at all our post and you will see you have been full of hate an I have responded with love.
Hi BD,I have responded to you in nothing but love and honesty.
islam teaches muslims to hate and to be deceptive.Ed (witness)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 06 2013,15:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 05 2013,17:31)
wakeup.
First you say Jesus died to save the world then you say only a tiny fraction so your belief is ADAM much much greater than Jesus because your belief is Adam brought sin and death in the world an Jesus brought life so if only a small amount get life ADAM did more damage than JESUS could repair.Of course I don't believe that but you do.
Hi BD,So what exactly do you believe concerning Jesus Christ then?
Ed
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 06 2013,15:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 05 2013,17:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,14:59) Boditharta. The more followers,this only means the more of babylon.
The world loves its own. If you are not of the world the world will hate you.Jesus also called his flock;My little flock.
So it is sad news for muslems and christians.
wakeup.
Jes wascalling his followers “little flock” because there were few of them at the time, he didn't say he would have a little flock otherwise he wouldn't have sent the little flock out to multiply Jesus never meant for th flock to stay smallActs 16:5
And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.Acts 2:47
praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Hi Boditharta.I have considered that: that Jesus meant his little flock.
His few followers; but read some other scriptures;and compare.1.Rev.7. and rev.14 only 144000 followed the lamb wheresoever he goeth and only them were sealed.
2.Jer.25 The land is desolate.
Isaiah 62:4.desolate.(and thy land *SHALL* be married).As for now the land is not married.3. Rev.11:2. Only the *TEMPLE* and the *ALTAR* is to be measured;the court is left to the gentiles.
4. Rev3:14. the church of leodicia; is naked and luke warm.
I can give you more scriptures.
wakeup.
First you say Jesus died to save the world then you say only a tiny fraction so your belief is ADAM much much greater than Jesus because your belief is Adam brought sin and death in the world an Jesus brought life so if only a small amount get life ADAM did more damage than JESUS could repair.Of course I don't believe that but you do.
So did he die for the sins of the WORLD or only a few?
Boditharta.Only the 144000 followed the Lamb wheresoever he goes,
so the rest dont follow the Lamb wheresoever he goes.The rest are just luke warm followers;therefore they have
to go through the fire to make white their robes.
Rev.7.wakeup.
Quran proven 100% true;
THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Which would also mean Satan was created before Jesus and is the firstborn of God. BD,
AGAIN CARNAL MINDED RELIGION:
YOU SIMPLY CANNOT SEE THE SPIRITUAL TRUTH IN THE ABOVE STATEMENT BY YOUR OWN MOUTH, IN YOUR OWN WORDS:
SATAN, LUCIFER WAS THE FIRST EVER CREATED AS AN ANGEL, MILLIONS, AND MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO! THEREFORE YES HE WAS THE FIRSTBORN SON OF GOD,
AND JESUS WAS BORN! BUILT IN A UNIQUE WOMB, NOT CREATED ONLY 2000 YEARS AGO!
THE ONLY THING WHICH YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN IS THAT :
GOD THE FATHER CREATED ANGEL LUCIFER BY THE SUBSTANCE OF THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT,
ALL BY HIM, ALL IN HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM!
THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD!
Quote Then afterwards (Abraham)God the Father had sex with (Sarah)Virgin Mary and created Jesus AGAIN CARNAL MINDED RELIGION:
YOU STILL CANNOT SEE THE SPIRITUAL MEANING WHICH IS IN YOUR OWN WORDS:
SPIRITUALLY: THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH ABRAHAM’S SPERM, CONCEIVED BOTH HAGAR, AND SARA! AS EXPLAINED IN THE OTHER POST!
SO ABRAHAM: IS THE FATHER OF ISAAC FROM HIS OWN LOINS :THE ONLY GENUINE BLOOD FOR THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, THE GENEALOGY OF MARY!IN THE SAME SENSE GOD IS THE FATHER OF JESUS FROM HIS OWN LOINS THE ONLY GENUINE SPIRIT
ALSO THE HOLY SPIRIT AGAIN THROUGH ABRAHAM SPERM, IS THE FATHER OF ISHMAEL FROM HAGAR BUT NOT A GENUINE SON! BUT MIXED WITH TWO DIFFERENT BLOODS, TWO SPIRITS!
IN THE SAME SENSE, GOD IS THE FATHER OF LUCIFER BUT NOT A GENUINE SON! BUT CREATED MIXED WITH TWO DIFFERENT SPIRITS!
LUCIFER WAS SENT AWAY FROM HEAVEN TO FORM THE SATANIC GENERATIONS OF THE WORLD FIRST CREATED BY THE WORDTHE SON’S SPIRIT HIDDEN WITHIN SATAN!
ISHMAEL WAS SENT AWAY BY ABRAHAM FROM HEAVEN'S GENERATION TO FORM THE SATANIC GENERTIONS OF THE WORLD,ISLAM WITH THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT HIDDEN WITHIN HIM!
Genesis 21:11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.(OBVIOUS HE REPRESENTS THE SPIRIT OF GOD) 12And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, SATAN’S SPIRITand because of thy bond womanLUCIFER’S FLESH; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; LIKE ADAM DID for in Isaac JESUS' SOULshall thy seed be called. 13And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed. ALSO JESUS' SOUL BUT CONTAMINATED WITH SATAN'S SPIRIT!YET!
THEREFORE ISAAC WAS ENTIRELY THE PRODUCT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT!
IN THE SAME WAY JESUS WAS THROUGH MARY
Genesis 15: 4………… but he that shall come out of YOUR BOWELS , him shalt thou have for YOUR HEIR. SO ISAAC WAS ABARAHAM’S HEIR, AND IN THE SAME WAY, JESUS RIGHT NOW AND FOR ETERNITY IS THE HEIR OF GOD’S POWER AND KINGDOM!
Hebrews1:2 2In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed THE HEIR OF ALL THINGS by whom also he made the world.
Quote Are you really noticing what you are writing? AND HOW!
I AM A SPIRITUALY MINDED PERSON!
more to come!
Charles
bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote You also said that the Jews(Lucifer Spirit) and Muslims(Satans) which would make Muslims “Jews” BD,
YES! THAT’S RIGHT!
LUCIFER WAS CREATED PERFECTLY BALANCED BETWEEN TWO SPIRITS:
WITHIN THESE TWO SPIRITS RESULTED A CONFLICT : WHICH WE STILL HAVE WITHIN USAND ONE OVERPOWERED THE OTHER!
SO LUCIFER REBELLED, AND GOD, IN ORDER TO CREATE A RETURN PATH BACK TO HIM, FOR THESE SPIRITS, HE TRANSFORMED, ONE SPIRIT INTO MATTER! EX LUCIFER’S CARRIER! AND ONE REMAINED A SPIRIT AND BECAME SATAN! god of the world! THIS EVIL SPIRIT BELIEVED THAT HE CREATED THE PREADAMITES’WORLD! GENESIS 1:2 BUT IN REALITY GOD THROUGH THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT HIDDEN WITHIN HIM DID ALL THE WORK ACCORDING TO SATAN’S WILL!
SO OUR ACTUAL WORLD ITSELF WAS ONE OF LUCIFER’S AND HIS ANGELS’ SPIRITS, AND WE ARE THEIR REMNANTS ON OUR WAY BACK TO THE FATHER AS SOULS!
SO OUR SOULS ARE THE SUBSTANCE OF THE WORD STILL HIDDEN IN US
Luke 17:21 …………… For lo, the kingdom of God is within you
AND ARE BEING MADE PERFECT THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT! GENERATION AFTER GENERATION!
Titus 3:5 ………but according to his mercy he saved us, by the WASHING OF REGENARATION, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
THESE TWO SPIRITS ARE REPRESENTED IN SCRIPTURE AS
ISRAEL SATAN
AND JERUSALEM THE FLESH BODY !
BOTH WERE EX LUCIFER
SO YES AS YOU SAID :
THE JEWS spiritAND MUSLIMS fleshWERE BOTH ONCE ONE CREATURE THE ANGEL LUCIFER! THAT'S WHY BOTH OF YOU AS NATIONS ARE ALWAYS WITHIN A CONFLICT!
Quote although you also said The Christians are Jesus' souls because the believe Jesus is the Messiah and since Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah as well you would be calling (Muslims)Satans who are Christians(Jesus' souls)
Matthew 28:19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost
Mark 16:16 He that BELIEVETH and IS BAPTIZED, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.
JESUS REDEEMED HUMANITY, NOT HUMANITY ARE REDEEMED!
SO UNLESS YOU LIVE IN JESUS’ SPIRIT, IT IS USELESS TO BELIEVE IN HIM ONLY AS THE MESSIAH! EVEN SATAN NOW BELIEVE IN JESUS AS THE MESSIAH ONE OF THE REASON THAT HE ESTABLISHED ISLAM, A CORRUPTED INTERMINGLED RELIGION WITH JEWISH, AND CHRISTIANITY, UNAWARE SUBMITTED TO VIRGIN MARY.
AS YOU WILL READ HEREUNDER!
Read in the name of thy lord and cherisher who created: Created man out OF A CLOT CONGEALED BLOOD Read!And thy lord is most bountiful, He who taught the use of pen; Taught man that which he knew not”.
THE ABOVE IS THE FIRST REVELATION GIVEN BY THE SUPPOSED ANGEL GABRIEL!
SO MAN IS CREATED OUT OF CONGEALED BLOOD! WHILE OUR SCRIPTURE STATES THAT GOD CREATED MAN OUT OF SLIME, IN HIS IMAGE !AND GAVE HIM HIS SPIRIT AND THE MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL! SO HE IS NO LONGER MAN, BUT A LIVING SOUL!
REFLECT:
BLOOD IS A SATANIC ELEMENT, AND IT WAS INTRODUCED AFTER ADAM SINNED! IT REPRESENTED THE PRESENCE OF SATAN’S SPIRIT IN ADAM! AND THE SOUL WAS DROWNED IN THE BLOOD!
SO YOUR RELIGION ONLY ACCEPT MAN IN FLESH AND BLOOD NOT AS A LIVING SOUL!
SO BOTH BEFORE GOD GAVE HIM THE SPIRIT AND THEN HE BECAME A LIVING SOUL OR AFTER HE SINNED!
SO IN A WAY IT IS THE TRUTH, FROM SATAN’S POINT OF VIEW SINCE ADAM WAS CREATED BY GOD IN FLESH AND BLOOD,FIRST. BUT IT WAS NOT THE SAME FLESH AND BLOOD CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE BY GOD, SINCE HE WAS NOT YET SINNED!
SO YOUR RELIGION CONSIDERS THAT SATAN the god of the world,CREATED THE FLESH AND BLOOD BEING! OR TRANSFORMED THE PERFECT MAN ADAM , THE LIVING SOUL, A SPIRITUAL FLESH BEING, INTO A FILTHY MORTAL FLESH AND BLOOD BEING! AFTER HE SINNED!
THE MOMENT SATAN ENTERED ADAM’S SOUL!
SO I AM RIGHT MOHAMMET ESTABLISHED A RELIGION BASED ON THE CREATION OF MAN FROM A CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD CARNAL MINDED RELIGION[/B] FLESH
SO YES ISHMAEL MUSLIMS SYMBOLICALLY IS THE FLESH AND BLOOD WHICH WOULD NEVER INHERIT GOD’S KINGDOM!
Quote Also Muslims do not have a symbol such as the crescent and star you must have not studied that correctly it is forbidden in Islam to use symbols to represent Islam READ AND BE AWARE OF YOUR OWN ENTITY!
FROM ISLAMICBOARD .COM
During the Byzantine Empire, the city of Byzantium (a.k.a. Constantinople and Istanbul) was Dedicated to Diana, goddess of the hunt.
The crescent was the symbol of Diana. SATANIC
NOW REPLACED BY VIRGIN MARY!
In 330 CE, Constantine rededicated the city to the VIRGIN MARY, whose STAR SYMBOL was added to the previous CRESCENT. THEREFORE AS I STATED THE STAR DOMINATED THE MOON FROM THEN ON KEEP THIS IN MIND!
NOW READ:
The star and crescent” was FIRST hoisted on behalf of the
MUSLIMS BY MOHAMMET 11
SO MOHAMMET WITHOUT REALIZING, WAS INSPIRED BY VIRGIN MARY TO DO THINGS WHICH CONFIRMS HER SUPERIORITY OVER SATAN, AND THE RELIGION WHICH HE FALSLEY INTRODUCED UNDER THE NAME OF GABRIEL!
GALATIANS 1:8But though we, or AN ANGEL from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
after the capture of Constantinople in 1453 CE. Prior to that, it was common on the arm of knight and esquires. A star within a crescent was a badge of Richard I, 250 years before Constantinople fell. They quit using it when it became the BANNER OF MUSLIMS. It has been used more and more ever since by
MUSLIMS IN A WAY TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. SATANIC CARNAL MINDED RELIGION!
SO YES IT IS A MUSLIM EMBLEM AND WITHOUT REALIZING YOU ARE UNDER THE VIRGIN MARY'S INFLUENCE SHE ON HER OWN IS TRANSFORMING YOUR RELIGION!
WHICH IS DEPICTED IN REVELATION 12:11And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:
I WONDER WHY YOU STILL KEEP WOMEN SO DEGRADED! AND IN THE SAME TIME YOU ARE DOMINATED BY THE MOST PURE WOMAN MARY,THE EX SON'S SPIRIT
Sultan Othoman, founder of the Ottoman empire, had a dream of crescent moon growing bigger and bigger until it reached East to West.
Charles
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2013,22:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,12:52) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,11:41)
They hate their Jewish and Christian brothers.
And they hate each other as well. Read the news.
EDTake a look at all our post and you will see you have been full of hate an I have responded with love.
Hi BD,I have responded to you in nothing but love and honesty.
islam teaches muslims to hate and to be deceptive.Ed (witness)
lol…lol…..lol….rotf.ED you have been “ONE OF” the rudest, meanest “Christian” in this forum. You have your moments of proper attitude an behaviour but mostly you use insults and attacks which is a very ineffective form of comunication especially when you are not being attacked.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2013,23:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 06 2013,15:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 05 2013,17:31)
wakeup.
First you say Jesus died to save the world then you say only a tiny fraction so your belief is ADAM much much greater than Jesus because your belief is Adam brought sin and death in the world an Jesus brought life so if only a small amount get life ADAM did more damage than JESUS could repair.Of course I don't believe that but you do.
Hi BD,So what exactly do you believe concerning Jesus Christ then?
Ed
John 9:26-27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
26 Then said they to him again, What did he to thee? how opened he thine eyes? 27 He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations?Are Mormons true followers?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,12:08) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2013,23:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 06 2013,15:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 05 2013,17:31)
wakeup.
First you say Jesus died to save the world then you say only a tiny fraction so your belief is ADAM much much greater than Jesus because your belief is Adam brought sin and death in the world an Jesus brought life so if only a small amount get life ADAM did more damage than JESUS could repair.Of course I don't believe that but you do.
Hi BD,So what exactly do you believe concerning Jesus Christ then?
Ed
John 9:26-27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
26 Then said they to him again, What did he to thee? how opened he thine eyes? 27 He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
OK Great!Now will you answer my question.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations?Are Mormons true followers?
bodQuote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 07 2013,03:20) Quote BD,
AGAIN CARNAL MINDED RELIGION:
YOU SIMPLY CANNOT SEE THE SPIRITUAL TRUTH IN THE ABOVE STATEMENT BY YOUR OWN MOUTH, IN YOUR OWN WORDS:
SATAN, LUCIFER WAS THE FIRST EVER CREATED AS AN ANGEL, MILLIONS, AND MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO! THEREFORE YES HE WAS THE FIRSTBORN SON OF GOD,
AND JESUS WAS BORN! BUILT IN A UNIQUE WOMB, NOT CREATED ONLY 2000 YEARS AGO!
THE ONLY THING WHICH YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN IS THAT :
GOD THE FATHER CREATED ANGEL LUCIFER BY THE SUBSTANCE OF THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT,
ALL BY HIM, ALL IN HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM!
Okay, so what you are saying is: The firstborn son of God was created through Jesus(as the word) And Satan was IN him and me for him, right?
Quote THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD! Wow, So the creator is a mediator with himsef?
Quote YOU STILL CANNOT SEE THE SPIRITUAL MEANING WHICH IS IN YOUR OWN WORDS: Those were your words from your symbology tree
Quote SPIRITUALLY: THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH ABRAHAM’S SPERM, CONCEIVED BOTH HAGAR, AND SARA! AS EXPLAINED IN THE OTHER POST!
SO ABRAHAM: IS THE FATHER OF ISAAC FROM HIS OWN LOINS :THE ONLY GENUINE BLOOD FOR THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, THE GENEALOGY OF MARY!Abraham is the Father of Ishmael and Isaac From his own loins
physicallyQuote IN THE SAME SENSE GOD IS THE FATHER OF JESUS FROM HIS OWN LOINS THE ONLY GENUINE SPIRIT only in the sense of poetry other than that God created Jesus with a Word. God said “Be” and Jesus was just as HE created things from the beginning…”God said “let there be” light…etc
Quote ALSO THE HOLY SPIRIT AGAIN THROUGH ABRAHAM SPERM, IS THE FATHER OF ISHMAEL FROM HAGAR BUT NOT A GENUINE SON! BUT MIXED WITH TWO DIFFERENT BLOODS, TWO SPIRITS! No, just making up stories don't make them valid that was his wife and that was there son and God Blessed him and was with him:
Genesis 21:20
And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer.Quote IN THE SAME SENSE, GOD IS THE FATHER OF LUCIFER BUT NOT A GENUINE SON! BUT CREATED MIXED WITH TWO DIFFERENT SPIRITS! LUCIFER WAS SENT AWAY FROM HEAVEN TO FORM THE SATANIC GENERATIONS OF THE WORLD FIRST CREATED BY THE WORDTHE SON’S SPIRIT HIDDEN WITHIN SATAN![Quote]
Satan was disobedient and was cast down hewas not sent on misson to form “satanic generations” what would be the point?
[Quote]ISHMAEL WAS SENT AWAY BY ABRAHAM FROM HEAVEN'S GENERATION TO FORM THE SATANIC GENERTIONS OF THE WORLD,ISLAM WITH THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT HIDDEN WITHIN HIM!
Then why was God with him?
Quote Genesis 21:11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.(OBVIOUS HE REPRESENTS THE SPIRIT OF GOD) 12And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, SATAN’S SPIRITand because of thy bond womanLUCIFER’S FLESH; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; LIKE ADAM DID for in Isaac JESUS' SOULshall thy seed be called. 13And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed. ALSO JESUS' SOUL BUT CONTAMINATED WITH SATAN'S SPIRIT!YET! That's strange because the Jews were constantly disobedient you infact said in your symbology report that they had Lucifers spirit ut nowyou have switchedit over saying they have Jesus' soul so which is it? Or is it both? You might say something like “Yes they have Lucifer spirit and Jesus souls because soul and spirit are different” which I will then say then they are the exact same as what you said Ishmael was i.e. contaminated with Satan's Spirit.
Do you ever go over what you write and think it out first?
Quote THEREFORE ISAAC WAS ENTIRELY THE PRODUCT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT! IN THE SAME WAY JESUS WAS THROUGH MARY
Then why say tha the Jews have a Lucifer Spirit when they areof the”generations of heaven”?(Your belief)
Quote Genesis 15: 4………… but he that shall come out of YOUR BOWELS , him shalt thou have for YOUR HEIR. SO ISAAC WAS ABARAHAM’S HEIR, AND IN THE SAME WAY, JESUS RIGHT NOW AND FOR ETERNITY IS THE HEIR OF GOD’S POWER AND KINGDOM! Then why does the scripture say:
1 Corinthians 15:24-26
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
I guess you were wrong according to scripture perhaps you should have remembered the prayer for a quick hint
Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. AmenFOREVER, perhaps you should have read even earlier
1 Chronicles 29:11
Thine, O Lord, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O Lord, and thou art exalted as head above all.You know what that means right? it means:
Quote JESUS RIGHT NOW AN
D FOR ETERNITY IS THE HEIR OF GOD’S POWER AND KINGDOM!This is False
Quote
Hebrews1:2 2In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed THE HEIR OF ALL THINGS by whom also he made the world.I hate to tell you this but all humanity was given the world
Quote AND HOW! I AM A SPIRITUALY MINDED PERSON!
more to come!
Genesis 6:5
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills; and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations?Are Mormons true followers?
bodQuote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms
ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO?Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations?Are Mormons true followers?
bodQuote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms
ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO?
bodMormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism,
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 07 2013,12:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,12:08) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2013,23:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 06 2013,15:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 05 2013,17:31)
wakeup.
First you say Jesus died to save the world then you say only a tiny fraction so your belief is ADAM much much greater than Jesus because your belief is Adam brought sin and death in the world an Jesus brought life so if only a small amount get life ADAM did more damage than JESUS could repair.Of course I don't believe that but you do.
Hi BD,So what exactly do you believe concerning Jesus Christ then?
Ed
John 9:26-27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
26 Then said they to him again, What did he to thee? how opened he thine eyes? 27 He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
OK Great!Now will you answer my question.
Jesus Christ is the son of Mary and a Spirit that proceeded from God as a Word, he was the long awaited Messiah of the Jews but the Jewish authority sought to Kill him By way of CrucifixionThey thought they succeeded but they did not although it appeared to them that they did,but instead God raised Christ Jesus up to HIMSELF alive.
when he returns he will verify this an at that time he will also be cleansed of all the false charges and allegations such as those asserting that “Jesus is God” “Jesus is one of 3 in a trinity with God” “Mary is the mother of God” and for horrendous sayings That God begets or for that matter God can be begotten
two of the Most clear statements about Christ Jesus in the Bible is
Acts 2:22
Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified his servant Jesus, whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release himQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations?Are Mormons true followers?
bodQuote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms
ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO?
bodMormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism,
Actually they are not called Mormons officially they areThe Church of latter day saints. So you say they are not true Followers
How aout Jehovah's witness'?
Are they true Followers? Yes or No?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,08:12) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations?Are Mormons true followers?
bodQuote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms
ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO?
bodMormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism,
Actually they are not called Mormons officially they areThe Church of latter day saints. So you say they are not true Followers
How aout Jehovah's witness'?
Are they true Followers? Yes or No?
BODare going to ask me every so called religion
I told you ;the TRUE BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST LIKE ,OR ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LIKE CHRIST
Quote (carmel @ Aug. 07 2013,03:41)
You also said that the Jews(Lucifer Spirit) and Muslims(Satans) which would make Muslims “Jews”Quote BD, YES! THAT’S RIGHT!
LUCIFER WAS CREATED PERFECTLY BALANCED BETWEEN TWO SPIRITS:
WITHIN THESE TWO SPIRITS RESULTED A CONFLICT : WHICH WE STILL HAVE WITHIN USAND ONE OVERPOWERED THE OTHER!
SO LUCIFER REBELLED, AND GOD, IN ORDER TO CREATE A RETURN PATH BACK TO HIM, FOR THESE SPIRITS, HE TRANSFORMED, ONE SPIRIT INTO MATTER! EX LUCIFER’S CARRIER! AND ONE REMAINED A SPIRIT AND BECAME SATAN! god of the world! THIS EVIL SPIRIT BELIEVED THAT HE CREATED THE PREADAMITES’WORLD! GENESIS 1:2 BUT IN REALITY GOD THROUGH THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT HIDDEN WITHIN HIM DID ALL THE WORK ACCORDING TO SATAN’S WILL!
SO OUR ACTUAL WORLD ITSELF WAS ONE OF LUCIFER’S AND HIS ANGELS’ SPIRITS, AND WE ARE THEIR REMNANTS ON OUR WAY BACK TO THE FATHER AS SOULS!
SO OUR SOULS ARE THE SUBSTANCE OF THE WORD STILL HIDDEN IN US
Luke 17:21 …………… For lo, the kingdom of God is within you
AND ARE BEING MADE PERFECT THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT! GENERATION AFTER GENERATION!
Titus 3:5 ………but according to his mercy he saved us, by the WASHING OF REGENARATION, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
THESE TWO SPIRITS ARE REPRESENTED IN SCRIPTURE AS
ISRAEL SATAN
AND JERUSALEM THE FLESH BODY !
BOTH WERE EX LUCIFER[Quote]
So the generations of heaven are Satan according to you, right?
[Quote]SO YES AS YOU SAID :
THE JEWS spiritAND MUSLIMS fleshWERE BOTH ONCE ONE CREATURE THE ANGEL LUCIFER! THAT'S WHY BOTH OF YOU AS NATIONS ARE ALWAYS WITHIN A CONFLICT!
But Jesus was a Jew so you believe that Jesus had the spirit of Satan, right?
although you also said The Christians are Jesus' souls because the believe Jesus is the Messiah and since Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah as well you would be calling (Muslims)Satans who are Christians(Jesus' souls)
Quote Matthew 28:19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost Mark 16:16 He that BELIEVETH and IS BAPTIZED, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.
So if you are not baptized you are not saved according to your belief, correct? Also would that be water baptism I just ask because the scriptures say:
Matthew 3:11
“I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.So which baptism are you teaching, and don't be carnal minded
Quote JESUS REDEEMED HUMANITY, NOT HUMANITY ARE REDEEMED! SO UNLESS YOU LIVE IN JESUS’ SPIRIT, IT IS USELESS TO BELIEVE IN HIM ONLY AS THE MESSIAH!
So John 3:16 is wrong?
John 3:16
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Quote EVEN SATAN NOW BELIEVE IN JESUS AS THE MESSIAH ONE OF THE REASON THAT HE ESTABLISHED ISLAM, A CORRUPTED INTERMINGLED RELIGION WITH JEWISH, AND CHRISTIANITY, UNAWARE SUBMITTED TO VIRGIN MARY. AS YOU WILL READ HEREUNDER!
So Satan now accepts Jesus?
Quote Read in the name of thy lord and cherisher who created: Created man out OF A CLOT CONGEALED BLOOD Read!And thy lord is most bountiful, He who taught the use of pen; Taught man that which he knew not”. THE ABOVE IS THE FIRST REVELATION GIVEN BY THE SUPPOSED ANGEL GABRIEL!
SO MAN IS CREATED OUT OF CONGEALED BLOOD! WHILE OUR SCRIPTURE STATES THAT GOD CREATED MAN OUT OF SLIME, IN HIS IMAGE !AND GAVE HIM HIS SPIRIT AND THE MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL! SO HE IS NO LONGER MAN, BUT A LIVING SOUL!
Slime?
Genesis 2:7Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
From the Quran:
He it is Who has created you from clay, and then has decreed a (stated) term (for you to die). And there is with Him another determined term (for you to be resurrected), yet you doubt (in the Resurrection).
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #2)
And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud.
( سورة الحجر , Al-Hijr, Chapter #15, Verse #26)
Well I guess altered mud could be called slime I'll give you that much.
And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth).
( سورة المؤمنون , Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #12)
Who made everything He has created good and He began the creation of man from clay.
( سورة السجدة , As-Sajda, Chapter #32, Verse #7)
Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So Blessed is Allah, the Best of creators.
( سورة المؤمنون , Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #14)
O mankind! If you are in doubt about the Resurrection, then verily We have created you (i.e. Adam) from dust, then from a Nutfah (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge i.e. the offspring of Adam), then from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood) then from a little lump of flesh – some formed and some unformed (as in the case of miscarriage) – that We may make (it) clear to you (i.e. to show you Our Power and Ability to do what We will). And We cause whom We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed term, then We bring you out as infants, then (give you growth) that you may reach your age of full strength. And among you there is he who dies (young), and among you there is he who is brought back to the miserable old age, so that he knows nothing after having known. And you see the earth barren, but when We send down water (rain) on it, it is stirred (to life), and it swells
and puts forth every lovely kind (of growth).( سورة الحج , Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #5)
Quote REFLECT: BLOOD IS A SATANIC ELEMENT, AND IT WAS INTRODUCED AFTER ADAM SINNED! IT REPRESENTED THE PRESENCE OF SATAN’S SPIRIT IN ADAM! AND THE SOUL WAS DROWNED IN THE BLOOD!
SO YOUR RELIGION ONLY ACCEPT MAN IN FLESH AND BLOOD NOT AS A LIVING SOUL!
SO BOTH BEFORE GOD GAVE HIM THE SPIRIT AND THEN HE BECAME A LIVING SOUL OR AFTER HE SINNED!
SO IN A WAY IT IS THE TRUTH, FROM SATAN’S POINT OF VIEW SINCE ADAM WAS CREATED BY GOD IN FLESH AND BLOOD,FIRST. BUT IT WAS NOT THE SAME FLESH AND BLOOD CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE BY GOD, SINCE HE WAS NOT YET SINNED!
SO YOUR RELIGION CONSIDERS THAT SATAN the god of the world,CREATED THE FLESH AND BLOOD BEING! OR TRANSFORMED THE PERFECT MAN ADAM , THE LIVING SOUL, A SPIRITUAL FLESH BEING, INTO A FILTHY MORTAL FLESH AND BLOOD BEING! AFTER HE SINNED![Quote]
Reread what I posted before that comment also wouldn't tha make the blood of Jesus “Satanic” you sure are blaspheming eveyone aren't you?
[Quote]THE MOMENT SATAN ENTERED ADAM’S SOUL!
SO I AM RIGHT MOHAMMET ESTABLISHED A RELIGION BASED ON THE CREATION OF MAN FROM A CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD CARNAL MINDED RELIGION[/B] FLESH
SO YES ISHMAEL MUSLIMS SYMBOLICALLY IS THE FLESH AND BLOOD WHICH WOULD NEVER INHERIT GOD’S KINGDOM![Quote]
I thought you said the kingdom of heaven is within you, inside this flesh and blood.
John 6:53
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.Also Muslims do not have a symbol such as the crescent and star you must have not studied that correctly it is forbidden in Islam to use symbols to represent Islam
[Quote]READ AND BE AWARE OF YOUR OWN ENTITY!
FROM ISLAMICBOARD .COM
During the Byzantine Empire, the city of Byzantium (a.k.a. Constantinople and Istanbul) was Dedicated to Diana, goddess of the hunt.
The crescent was the symbol of Diana. SATANIC
NOW REPLACED BY VIRGIN MARY!
Has nothing to do with worship in Islam
The Quran teaches us in Surah Al-Shura: 9- l0 that, 'It is God alone who has power over all things and that in Him we should trust.'
Quote In 330 CE, Constantine rededicated the city to the VIRGIN MARY, whose STAR SYMBOL was added to the previous CRESCENT. THEREFORE AS I STATED THE STAR DOMINATED THE MOON FROM THEN ON KEEP THIS IN MIND! I am the actual Muslim here and I am telling you I have no special affection for star and cresents and it's your misunderstanding
Quote NOW READ: The star and crescent” was FIRST hoisted on behalf of the
MUSLIMS BY MOHAMMET 11
No wrong info The Prophet Muhammad used a black flag and that was only to differ from those against him as their flag was white
Quote SO MOHAMMET WITHOUT REALIZING, WAS INSPIRED BY VIRGIN MARY TO DO THINGS WHICH CONFIRMS HER SUPERIORITY OVER SATAN, AND THE RELIGION WHICH HE FALSLEY INTRODUCED UNDER THE NAME OF GABRIEL! So virgin Mary inspired Muhammad to defeat Satan
Quote GALATIANS 1:8But though we, or AN ANGEL from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. Well didn't you just preach a different gospel?
Quote after the capture of Constantinople in 1453 CE. Prior to that, it was common on the arm of knight and esquires. A star within a crescent was a badge of Richard I, 250 years before Constantinople fell. They quit using it when it became the BANNER OF MUSLIMS. It has been used more and more ever since by MUSLIMS IN A WAY TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. SATANIC CARNAL MINDED RELIGION!
SO YES IT IS A MUSLIM EMBLEM AND WITHOUT REALIZING YOU ARE UNDER THE VIRGIN MARY'S INFLUENCE SHE ON HER OWN IS TRANSFORMING YOUR RELIGION!
WHICH IS DEPICTED IN REVELATION 12:11And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:
I WONDER WHY YOU STILL KEEP WOMEN SO DEGRADED! AND IN THE SAME TIME YOU ARE DOMINATED BY THE MOST PURE WOMAN MARY,THE EX SON'S SPIRIT
Sultan Othoman, founder of the Ottoman empire, had a dream of crescent moon growing bigger and bigger until it reached East to West.
You have too much incorrect information do you correct your errors when you are wrong?
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,13:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,08:12) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:54) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:52) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,12:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 07 2013,07:10) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 07 2013,03:14) Quran proven 100% true; THIS IS TRUE ONLY TO THE QURAN IT SELF;
BUT IF YOU COMPERE THE QURAN TO THE BIBLE THEN THE QURAN IS AS FALSE AS IT CAN BE
WHILE THE BIBLE IS PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY ITS TRUE FOLLOWERS ,JUST AS CHRIST AS SHOW THE WAY
How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations?Are Mormons true followers?
bodQuote How can you know a true follower in Christianity when thereare 39,000(literally) deominations? true follower are like Christ copies ,not like theatrical christianity ,but this excludes Islam and buddhism,and other isms
ARE MORMONS TRUE FOLLOWERS? Yes or NO?
bodMormonism is NOT a true scriptural believe it is an ism,
Actually they are not called Mormons officially they areThe Church of latter day saints. So you say they are not true Followers
How aout Jehovah's witness'?
Are they true Followers? Yes or No?
BODare going to ask me every so called religion
I told you ;the TRUE BELIEVERS ARE CHRIST LIKE ,OR ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LIKE CHRIST
That would make Muslims more Christ like than Christians because Christians don't act like Christ they worsgip Christ instead of God or along with God but JESUS worshiped GOD and taught his disciples to WORSHIP GOD ALONE. Christians do not do this, well not most of them.
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