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    Ed J
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,09:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,08:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2013,10:26)
    islam, you believe, is going to take over the world; right?


    BD?


    What do you mean take over? Islam is already the Largest belief in the world as of this year and it certainly didn't come through force.


    That is false and you know it.

    #353253
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,12:30)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,09:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,08:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2013,10:26)
    islam, you believe, is going to take over the world; right?


    BD?


    What do you mean take over? Islam is already the Largest belief in the world as of this year and it certainly didn't come through force.


    That is false and you know it.


    VATICAN CITY – Islam has surpassed Roman Catholicism as the world's largest religion, the Vatican newspaper said Sunday.

    “For the first time in history, we are no longer at the top: Muslims have overtaken us,” Monsignor Vittorio Formenti said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. Formenti compiles the Vatican's yearbook.

    He said that Catholics accounted for 17.4 percent of the world population — a stable percentage — while Muslims were at 19.2 percent.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story….xma1BOR

    It does go on to say

    When considering all Christians and not just Catholics, Christians make up 33 percent of the world population, Formenti said.

    So if Christians were united they woul be number one but you don't evn accept the Catholic Church as “Christian” correct? so take their 19% away andyourleft with only 14% and Islam is still number 1 either way it has the SINGLE LARGEST DENOMINATION IN THE WORLD

    #353262
    Ed J
    Participant

    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.

    #353270
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,13:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,12:30)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,09:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,08:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2013,10:26)
    islam, you believe, is going to take over the world; right?


    BD?


    What do you mean take over? Islam is already the Largest belief in the world as of this year and it certainly didn't come through force.


    That is false and you know it.


    VATICAN CITY –  Islam has surpassed Roman Catholicism as the world's largest religion, the Vatican newspaper said Sunday.

    “For the first time in history, we are no longer at the top: Muslims have overtaken us,” Monsignor Vittorio Formenti said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano. Formenti compiles the Vatican's yearbook.

    He said that Catholics accounted for 17.4 percent of the world population — a stable percentage — while Muslims were at 19.2 percent.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story….xma1BOR

    It does go on to say

    When considering all Christians and not just Catholics, Christians make up 33 percent of the world population, Formenti said.

    So if Christians were united they woul be number one but you don't evn accept the Catholic Church as “Christian” correct? so take their 19% away andyourleft with only 14% and Islam is still number 1 either way it has the SINGLE LARGEST DENOMINATION IN THE WORLD


    Boditharta.

    The more followers,this only means the more of babylon.
    The world loves its own. If you are not of the world the world will hate you.

    Jesus also called his flock;My little flock.

    So it is sad news for muslems and christians.

    wakeup.

    #353278
    carmel
    Participant

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

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    Islam is still number 1 either way it has the SINGLE LARGEST DENOMINATION IN THE WORLD

    BD,

    I said Muslims believe in a CARNAL MINDED RELIGION!

    FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING

    IT IS THE SPIRIT WHICH QUICKEN!

    THE FLESH GOES DOWN UNDER EARTH AND BECOME DUST!

    THE SOUL BELONG TO JESUS CHRIST AND THAT'S WHERE IT GOES WHETHER IT IS A MUSLIM ,A CHRISTIAN, AND ALL THE REST!

    ONLY HE WILL JUDGE

    LIKE HE DID TO MOHAMMET!

    THE ONLY ONE WHO TOOK WITH HIM HIS FLESH TRANSFORMED INTO A SPIRITUAL ETERNAL ONE!

    #353279
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,14:21)
    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.


    That's what I said but it is the main portion by far all the other thousands of denominations 0nly equal 40% of Christians

    #353282
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,14:59)
    Boditharta.

    The more followers,this only means the more of babylon.
    The world loves its own. If you are not of the world the world will hate you.

    Jesus also called his flock;My little flock.

    So it is sad news for muslems and christians.

    wakeup.


    Jes wascalling his followers “little flock” because there were few of them at the time, he didn't say he would have a little flock otherwise he wouldn't have sent the little flock out to multiply Jesus never meant for th flock to stay small

    Acts 16:5
    And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

    Acts 2:47
    praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    #353283
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 04 2013,16:28)

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    Islam is still number 1 either way it has the SINGLE LARGEST DENOMINATION IN THE WORLD

    BD,

    I said Muslims believe in a CARNAL MINDED RELIGION!

    FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING

    IT IS THE SPIRIT WHICH QUICKEN!

    THE FLESH GOES DOWN UNDER EARTH AND BECOME DUST!

    THE SOUL BELONG TO JESUS CHRIST AND THAT'S WHERE IT GOES WHETHER IT IS A MUSLIM ,A CHRISTIAN, AND ALL THE REST!

    ONLY HE WILL JUDGE

    LIKE HE DID TO MOHAMMET!

    THE ONLY ONE WHO TOOK WITH HIM HIS FLESH TRANSFORMED INTO A SPIRITUAL ETERNAL ONE!


    John 8:15
    Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

    READ YOUR BIBLE give up the symbology and READ

    Read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

    ( سورة العلق , Al-Alaq, Chapter #96, Verse #1)

    #353307
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,14:21)
    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.


    That's what I said but it is the main portion by far all the other thousands of denominations 0nly equal 40% of Christians


    Hi BD,

    I'd say you statistics are way off, Catholics comprise only about 35% of Christianity at most.

    And about 60% of the worlds population is Christian.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #353308
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,14:59)
    Boditharta.

    The more followers,this only means the more of babylon.
    The world loves its own. If you are not of the world the world will hate you.

    Jesus also called his flock;My little flock.

    So it is sad news for muslems and christians.

    wakeup.


    Jes wascalling his followers “little flock” because there were few of them at the time, he didn't say he would have a little flock otherwise he wouldn't have sent the little flock out to multiply Jesus never meant for th flock to stay small

    Acts 16:5
    And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

    Acts 2:47
    praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.


    Hi BD,

    All the 'spin' you put on the bible is negated by your refusal to accept Scripture as authoritative.

    Ed

    #353319
    carmel
    Participant

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:

    )

    Quote
    John 8:15
    Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

    BD,

    I HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING YOU! carnal minded religion!

    The above is only a reference to Jesus as man!

    Quote
    Read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists).

    (  سورة العلق  , Al-Alaq, Chapter #96, Verse #1)

    Now read all what Jesus said in order to understand his statement:

    John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh:

    I judge not any man. 16And IF I DO JUDGE, MY JUDGEMENT IS TRUE!

    SO IF HE HAD TO JUDGE WHILE HE WAS ON EARTH HIS JUDGMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUE

    because I am not ALONE, but I and the Father that sent me.

    CLEAR ? SO HE WAS NOT ALONE HE HAD HIS FATHER WITHIN HIM! WHILE ON EARTH!

    NOW READ SO YOU WILL KNOW WHO WOULD JUDGE YOU AND WHO ALREADY JUDGED MOHAMMET!

    John 5:22For neither doth the Father judge any man, BUT HE HAD GIVEN ALL JUDGEMENT TO THE SON

    Quote
    READ YOUR BIBLE give up the symbology and READ

    BY NOW,YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ME!

    I AM WORKING ON YOUR CARNAL MINDED RELIGION POST,

    AND YOU WOULD BE ANSWERED IN EVERY DETAIL REGARDING MY SYMBOLIGY

    Charles

    #353353
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,21:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,14:21)
    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.


    That's what I said but it is the main portion by far all the other thousands of denominations 0nly equal 40% of Christians


    Hi BD,

    I'd say you statistics are way off, Catholics comprise only about 35% of Christianity at most.

    And about 60% of the worlds population is Christian.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you accept all those denominations as being equally Christians? That's good I don't hear many Christians agreeing with that. So to you

    Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, UB, Catholics and Baptist are all equally Christian with you correct?

    #353359
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Aug. 05 2013,01:21)


    Quote

    BD,

    I HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING YOU! carnal minded religion!

    The above is only a reference to Jesus as man!

    Okay

    Quote
    Now read all what Jesus said in order to understand his statement:

    John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh:

    I judge not any man. 16And IF I DO JUDGE, MY JUDGEMENT IS TRUE!

    SO IF HE HAD TO JUDGE WHILE HE WAS ON EARTH HIS JUDGMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUE

    Yes but once again he said John 8:15 You judge according to the flesh:I judge not any man.

    The “if” he did is a conditional statement th doesn't apply because he already said “I judge not any man”

    Quote
    because I am not ALONE, but I and the Father that sent me.

    Yes, so the result is still “I Judge no man”

    Quote
    CLEAR ? SO HE WAS NOT ALONE HE HAD HIS FATHER WITHIN HIM! WHILE ON EARTH!

    NOW READ SO YOU WILL KNOW WHO WOULD JUDGE YOU AND WHO ALREADY JUDGED MOHAMMET!

    Okay

    Quote
    John 5:22For neither doth the Father judge any man, BUT HE HAD GIVEN ALL JUDGEMENT TO THE SON

    Well if that Son is Jesus he already said “I judge no man”

    Quote
    BY NOW,YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ME!

    You seem to be a well intentioned person with the desire to be “special” similar to EDJ frustrated with the simplicity of Love and compassion you have created or learned how to create complex things to ponder on instead of having genuine emotions. To you Jesus can't simply be “Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you”

    You have to ignore that very clear description and give it more meaning as if you are ashamed that Jesus was a MAN
    obviously he couldn't be God in ayway because he was tempted

    James 1:13
    Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

    Matthew 4:1
    Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

    Hebrews 4:15
    For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

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    I AM WORKING ON YOUR CARNAL MINDED RELIGION POST,

    AND YOU WOULD BE ANSWERED IN EVERY DETAIL REGARDING MY SYMBOLIGY

    What is so Carnal about Worshipping God?

    #353360
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,06:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,21:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,14:21)
    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.


    That's what I said but it is the main portion by far all the other thousands of denominations 0nly equal 40% of Christians


    Hi BD,

    I'd say you statistics are way off, Catholics comprise only about 35% of Christianity at most.

    And about 60% of the worlds population is Christian.

    Ed J


    So you accept all those denominations as being equally Christians? That's good I don't hear many Christians agreeing with that. So to you

    Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, UB, Catholics and Baptist are all equally Christian with you correct?


    Hi BD,

    They may have some doctrine screwed up, but Jesus said
    you would know his followers because we love one an other. (John 13:35)

    The bible also says Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:
    and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  (1 John 3:15)

    Therefore since muslims hate their brothers and are murders
    they do NOT have eternal life abiding in them. The god of islam is satan the devil.

    Ed (witness)

    #353373
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,07:29)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,06:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,21:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,14:21)
    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.


    That's what I said but it is the main portion by far all the other thousands of denominations 0nly equal 40% of Christians


    Hi BD,

    I'd say you statistics are way off, Catholics comprise only about 35% of Christianity at most.

    And about 60% of the worlds population is Christian.

    Ed J


    So you accept all those denominations as being equally Christians? That's good I don't hear many Christians agreeing with that. So to you

    Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, UB, Catholics and Baptist are all equally Christian with you correct?


    Hi BD,

    They may have some doctrine screwed up, but Jesus said
    you would know his followers because we love one an other. (John 13:35)

    The bible also says Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:
    and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  (1 John 3:15)

    Therefore since muslims hate their brothers and are murders
    they do NOT have eternal life abiding in them. The god of islam is satan the devil.

    Ed (witness)


    The Mormons believe you are going to hell
    The JWs Believe you are going to hell
    I think you get the idea here I don't have time to list the entire 39,000 view points but basically Christiaity is not one nor do the love one another if they did they wouldn't be divided

    Mark 3:25
    And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

    Luke 11:17
    But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

    Islam does not hate their brothers and sisters f you go to a mosque anywhere the will welcome you some Chistian denominations will tell you that you have to become a member, some enforce tithing….

    It is true that all over the world some people hate their brother but you will never gt 1 billion Christians to all bow and Worship God at the same time as Muslims do all over the world everyday

    #353385
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,09:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,07:29)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,06:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,21:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,14:21)
    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.


    That's what I said but it is the main portion by far all the other thousands of denominations 0nly equal 40% of Christians


    Hi BD,

    I'd say you statistics are way off, Catholics comprise only about 35% of Christianity at most.

    And about 60% of the worlds population is Christian.

    Ed J


    So you accept all those denominations as being equally Christians? That's good I don't hear many Christians agreeing with that. So to you

    Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, UB, Catholics and Baptist are all equally Christian with you correct?


    Hi BD,

    They may have some doctrine screwed up, but Jesus said
    you would know his followers because we love one an other. (John 13:35)

    The bible also says Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:
    and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  (1 John 3:15)

    Therefore since muslims hate their brothers and are murders
    they do NOT have eternal life abiding in them. The god of islam is satan the devil.

    Ed (witness)


    The Mormons believe you are going to hell
    The JWs Believe you are going to hell
    I think you get the idea here I don't have time to list the entire 39,000 view points but basically Christiaity is not one nor do the love one another if they did they wouldn't be divided

    Mark 3:25
    And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

    Luke 11:17
    But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

    Islam does not hate their brothers and sisters f you go to a mosque anywhere the will welcome you some Chistian denominations will tell you that you have to become a member, some enforce tithing….

    It is true that all over the world some people hate their brother but you will never gt 1 billion Christians to all bow and Worship God at the same time as Muslims do all over the world everyday


    They hate their Jewish and Christian brothers.
    And they hate each other as well. Read the news.

    #353394
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,11:41)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,09:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2013,07:29)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,06:39)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,21:42)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,14:21)
    Roman Catholicism is only a portion of Christianity.


    That's what I said but it is the main portion by far all the other thousands of denominations 0nly equal 40% of Christians


    Hi BD,

    I'd say you statistics are way off, Catholics comprise only about 35% of Christianity at most.

    And about 60% of the worlds population is Christian.

    Ed J


    So you accept all those denominations as being equally Christians? That's good I don't hear many Christians agreeing with that. So to you

    Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, UB, Catholics and Baptist are all equally Christian with you correct?


    Hi BD,

    They may have some doctrine screwed up, but Jesus said
    you would know his followers because we love one an other. (John 13:35)

    The bible also says Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:
    and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  (1 John 3:15)

    Therefore since muslims hate their brothers and are murders
    they do NOT have eternal life abiding in them. The god of islam is satan the devil.

    Ed (witness)


    The Mormons believe you are going to hell
    The JWs Believe you are going to hell
    I think you get the idea here I don't have time to list the entire 39,000 view points but basically Christiaity is not one nor do the love one another if they did they wouldn't be divided

    Mark 3:25
    And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

    Luke 11:17
    But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

    Islam does not hate their brothers and sisters f you go to a mosque anywhere the will welcome you some Chistian denominations will tell you that you have to become a member, some enforce tithing….

    It is true that all over the world some people hate their brother but you will never gt 1 billion Christians to all bow and Worship God at the same time as Muslims do all over the world everyday


    They hate their Jewish and Christian brothers.
    And they hate each other as well. Read the news.


    ED

    Take a look at all our post and you will see you have been full of hate an I have responded with love. You read the news that has been selected to sell papers or boost ratings in no way can the news give a clear picture even locally.

    When I look at the news it seems every body is being killed, raped, robbed and held hostage all around me but the facts are while there is crime the world is a lot safer than the news makes it for instance the trayvon martin case was tragic indeed and Zimmerman should have gotten some jail time simply for instigating the episode but it turning into a huge racial accusation an labeling trayvon martin a civil rights Icon comparing him to actual civil rights leaders who died in the course of actual activism? Seriously? That's the news for you take a small town tragedy and turn it into a mini series.

    So you look at American news reporting things that excite americans for ratings: When a plane crashes somewhere the news is only big according to how many Americans were on the plane, no Americans 30 second spot 25 Americans it'son the entire weekend.

    There is a book out that taks about 7 great tragedies now on this scale there is 911 and the last tragedy is the death of Michael Jackson they also had JFK and RK but I think it is amazing to compare a tragedy where thousands of people die and even more 10s of thousands died as a result can b compared to any one individual but that's the news

    #353407
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,14:59)
    Boditharta.

    The more followers,this only means the more of babylon.
    The world loves its own. If you are not of the world the world will hate you.

    Jesus also called his flock;My little flock.

    So it is sad news for muslems and christians.

    wakeup.


    Jes wascalling his followers “little flock” because there were few of them at the time, he didn't say he would have a little flock otherwise he wouldn't have sent the little flock out to multiply Jesus never meant for th flock to stay small

    Acts 16:5
    And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

    Acts 2:47
    praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.


    Hi Boditharta.

    I have considered that: that Jesus meant his little flock.
    His few followers; but read some other scriptures;and compare.

    1.Rev.7. and rev.14 only 144000 followed the lamb wheresoever he goeth and only them were sealed.

    2.Jer.25 The land is desolate.
    Isaiah 62:4.desolate.(and thy land *SHALL* be married).As for now the land is not married.

    3. Rev.11:2. Only the *TEMPLE* and the *ALTAR* is to be measured;the court is left to the gentiles.

    4. Rev3:14. the church of leodicia; is naked and luke warm.

    I can give you more scriptures.

    wakeup.

    #353427
    carmel
    Participant

    bodhitharta,Aug. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote
    That would mean according to your logic tree
    That (Abraham) God the Father had sex with (Hagar)Eve and created (Ishmael) Satan

    BD

    WITH THE ABOVE STATEMENT YOU CONFIRMED THAT YOUR  RELIGION IS A CARNAL MINDED RELIGION

    FIRST OF ALL I WROTE:

    ABRAHAM  SYMBOLICALLY     GOD THE FATHER, HOLY  ,HEAVENLY ELEMENT  SPIRIT

    AS YOU CAN SEE I MADE AN EMPHASIS ON THE PHRASE HEAVENLY ELEMENT SPIRIT

    SO I AM MORE REFERRING TO THE SPIRIT RATHER THAN GOD BUT I HAD TO SPECIFY WHICH SPIRIT IS!

    SO GOD COULD NEVER HAVE INTERCOURSE, BUT THROUGH HIS SPIRIT, THE HOLY SPIRIT, WITHIN HUMANS, HE ACHIEVES WHATEVER HE WANTS! AND THAT PROCEDURE  HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE OT! FROM SETH TILL JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS BORN! THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN!

    NOW READ HEREUNDER:

    Romans 1: For the INVISIBLE THINGS of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE; his eternal power also, and DIVINITY: so that they are inexcusable.

    SO IT IS CLEAR THAT WHOEVER WANTS TO KNOW  THE SECRET THINGS OF GOD IT IS DEFINITELY HIDDEN IN THE SCRIPTURES! NOW IT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL HOW HUMBLE, AND IN  LOVE TO GOD HE PRAYS IN ORDER TO DISCERN HIS THINGS!

    SATAN’S SPIRIT HAD THE RIGHT TO OWN ALL MALE FIRSTBORNS, AFTER ADAM SIN! WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN, WHICH WERE ALL THE WORK BY THE HOLY SPIRIT! COMMENCED BY SETH! SO,SINCE ABRAHAM WAS CALLED BY GOD, IT STANDS TO REASON, THAT ABRAHAM WAS OF THE  GENERATION OF HEAVEN, HE  WAS OF THE  HOLY SPIRIT!

    James 2: And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God.

    ABRAHAM’S  CHARACTERISTIC IS UNIQUE IN HIS TIME, HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON TO HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY FAITH, HIS MOTHER IS PURPOSELY UNKNOWN.
    This stands in stark contrast to the other patriarchs and most of the other significant personalitiesTO MAKE MY POINT MORE REALISTIC! GOD AS A SPIRIT DOESN’T HAVE A MOTHER!

    Genesis 14:18 But Melchisedech the king of Salem, bringing forth bread and wine, for he was the priest of the most high God,

    19Blessed him, and said: Blessed be Abram by the most high God, who created heaven and earth.

    THE ABOVE IS MORE EVIDENT, REFLECT:

    NOTICE THE BREAD AND WINE IT IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS PHRASE IS MENTIONED!

    PAUL SAID THIS ABOUT MELCHISEDECH:

    3Without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but likened unto the Son of God, continueth a priest for ever.

    THEREFORE MELCHISEDECH WAS THE PRELUDE OF JESUS CHRIST,GOD IN FLESH   BUT WHY ALL THIS HAD TO BE EXPERIENCED BY ABRAHAM?

    So isn’t it justified ENOUGH that SYMBOLICALLY ABRAHAM, AS THE FIRST FATHER OF THE JEWS, is BOTH , THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND GOD AS MAN ! AND SCRIPTURE THROUGH HIS STORY IS DEPICTING IN A HIDDEN WAY GOD’S WORK?

    NOW  GOD NEVER PERMITTED ABRAHAM TO HAVE CHILDREN! BUT WHY?  SIMPLE !DUE TO THE FACT THAT ABRAHAM REPRESENTED THE SPIRIT AND THERE’S ONLY ONE SPIRIT THROUGHOUT GOD’S KINGDOM!

    GOD NEVER ALLOWED SATAN TO BE INTERTWINED IN HIS HOLY THINGS!

    SO GOD WAITED FOR SATAN TO ACT FIRST, AS ALWAYS! IT WAS HIS RIGHT TO DO THINGS FIRST,AND  THEN GOD  OVERRULED HIS WORK!

    SO SATAN MOTIVATED SARA’S MIND TO ALLOW ABRAHAM TO HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH SATAN’S WOMAN HAGAR! AND BECOME THE CORRUPTED FIRSTBORN!  SO AS YOU SAID GOD, THROUGH ABRAHAM THOUGH, BY THE HOLY  SPIRIT CONCEIVED BOTH HAGAR, AND SARAH, AND BECAME THE FATHER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD! BOTH GOOD AND EVIL!

    SO YES ABRAHAM SYMBOLCIALLY  IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD

    THAT'S REGARDING ABRAHAM.

    THERE'S MORE REGARDING THIS POINT, BUT THE ABOVE IS ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY MY  DISCERNMENT  

    Charles

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    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 05 2013,17:31)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,14:59)
    Boditharta.

    The more followers,this only means the more of babylon.
    The world loves its own. If you are not of the world the world will hate you.

    Jesus also called his flock;My little flock.

    So it is sad news for muslems and christians.

    wakeup.


    Jes wascalling his followers “little flock” because there were few of them at the time, he didn't say he would have a little flock otherwise he wouldn't have sent the little flock out to multiply Jesus never meant for th flock to stay small

    Acts 16:5
    And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

    Acts 2:47
    praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.


    Hi Boditharta.

    I have considered that: that Jesus meant his little flock.
    His few followers;  but read some other scriptures;and compare.

    1.Rev.7. and rev.14 only 144000 followed the lamb wheresoever he goeth and only them were sealed.

    2.Jer.25 The land is desolate.
      Isaiah 62:4.desolate.(and thy land *SHALL* be married).As for now the land is not married.

    3. Rev.11:2. Only the *TEMPLE* and the *ALTAR* is to be measured;the court is left to the gentiles.

    4. Rev3:14. the church of leodicia; is naked and luke warm.

    I can give you more scriptures.

    wakeup.


    First you say Jesus died to save the world then you say only a tiny fraction so your belief is ADAM much much greater than Jesus because your belief is Adam brought sin and death in the world an Jesus brought life so if only a small amount get life ADAM did more damage than JESUS could repair.

    Of course I don't believe that but you do.

    So did he die for the sins of the WORLD or only a few?

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