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Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,17:04) Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2013,16:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,13:21) Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2013,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,12:36) Bing dead fo 3 day and nights is not “AS JONAH WAS” it is not like Jonah at all. If that were the case he could have said like”Lazarus”
Boditharta.I can see that you are a defender of the qur'án, not the *truth*.
This is how you have to *refute* many sriptures in the bible to justify the qur'an.
To give more strenght to the qur'an.Because the history of the qur'an does not look good.
Mohamad; the sole model of islam; his history does not look good. Not a man to follow.Jesus is faultless;he,and his teachings, we can follow.
wakeup.
Muhammad is not the sole model of Islam.His history however is much like the history of Moses in regards to being a human born man, warrior….
Acts 3:22
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.Was Jesus like Moses?
I agree with you, Jesus is not like Moses or Muhammad but Moses and Muhammad are alike
Boditharta.If you really think that much of Jesus,why not follow his teachings,and dont reject his sacrifice.
For he died for you,and you must bring all your petitions to him.He is Gods representative.One can not come in a bank and pass the queue;and go straight to the managers office, and knock on his door.
One must follow the system.wakeup.
can you tell me who Zachariah went to when praying for a son?Luke 1:13
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
Boditharta.Zecharaiah the priest,prayed straight to God.
Because the Messiah(the anointed) has not come yet.
Since Jesus has come, and died for us; now we all must go through him.
For he has been given the cheque book,and he alone can write out the cheques.
No one can come to God for a cheque,anymore.
No, not even muslems;all must follow the system.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,17:04) Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2013,16:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,13:21) Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2013,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,12:36) Bing dead fo 3 day and nights is not “AS JONAH WAS” it is not like Jonah at all. If that were the case he could have said like”Lazarus”
Boditharta.I can see that you are a defender of the qur'án, not the *truth*.
This is how you have to *refute* many sriptures in the bible to justify the qur'an.
To give more strenght to the qur'an.Because the history of the qur'an does not look good.
Mohamad; the sole model of islam; his history does not look good. Not a man to follow.Jesus is faultless;he,and his teachings, we can follow.
wakeup.
Muhammad is not the sole model of Islam.His history however is much like the history of Moses in regards to being a human born man, warrior….
Acts 3:22
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.Was Jesus like Moses?
I agree with you, Jesus is not like Moses or Muhammad but Moses and Muhammad are alike
Boditharta.If you really think that much of Jesus,why not follow his teachings,and dont reject his sacrifice.
For he died for you,and you must bring all your petitions to him.He is Gods representative.One can not come in a bank and pass the queue;and go straight to the managers office, and knock on his door.
One must follow the system.wakeup.
can you tell me who Zachariah went to when praying for a son?Luke 1:13
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
Boditharta.Zecharaiah the priest,prayed straight to God.
Because the Messiah(the anointed) has not come yet.
Since Jesus has come, and died for us; now we all must go through him.
For he has been given the cheque book,and he alone can write out the cheques.
No one can come to God for a cheque,anymore.
No, not even muslems;all must follow the system.wakeup.
So you believe that people could have a direct relationship with God until Jesus came?Although Jesus says you can talk directly to Go because God loves you Himself an you believe tht Jesus came out of God?
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,13:00) Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,12:45) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,06:06) Quote (Ed J @ July 07 2013,20:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,12:34) Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2013,16:16) Hi BD, Are you suggesting Jesus was in FACT in the tomb for three days,
but instead of him being dead he was alive in there the three days?Ed
well you definitely know I don't believe he was killed and the scriptures say:
So, is that a “Yes”? …or a “No”?
I'm saying that it is vey likely it was a great place to lay low an Mary didn't recognize him at first mistaking him for the Gardener as if he were in a disguise.It's not that important to me, the point is I believe that Jesus was saved by God and was Totally ALIVE during the time he was presumed to be dead “as Jonah was”
Hi BD,Then you deny the Gospel of the bible – right?
Ed
The Gospel of the Bible is the Gospel that JESUS CHRIST preached, not the Gospel of Jesus christ which Paul preached.Jesus sad he was sent to preach the Gose of the Kingdom of God and he said he completed his mission an thi was before the “cross”
Do you deny the Gospel of the kingdom of God?
Did Jesus teach Mercy or Sacrifice? Please choose one because he didn't teach both.
By the way, you still never told me. Who Sacrificed Jesus an to whom was this sacrifice offered up to?
with a sacrifice somene has to give something up, How can God give Christ up to God? That would be lik you taking money from checking an putting it into savings and calling it a loss.
Hi BD,The “Kingdom of God” (that Jesus preached) came on “Pentecost”.
Ed (witness)
Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,14:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,13:00) Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,12:45) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,06:06) Quote (Ed J @ July 07 2013,20:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,12:34) Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2013,16:16) Hi BD, Are you suggesting Jesus was in FACT in the tomb for three days,
but instead of him being dead he was alive in there the three days?Ed
well you definitely know I don't believe he was killed and the scriptures say:
So, is that a “Yes”? …or a “No”?
I'm saying that it is vey likely it was a great place to lay low an Mary didn't recognize him at first mistaking him for the Gardener as if he were in a disguise.It's not that important to me, the point is I believe that Jesus was saved by God and was Totally ALIVE during the time he was presumed to be dead “as Jonah was”
Hi BD,Then you deny the Gospel of the bible – right?
Ed
The Gospel of the Bible is the Gospel that JESUS CHRIST preached, not the Gospel of Jesus christ which Paul preached.Jesus sad he was sent to preach the Gose of the Kingdom of God and he said he completed his mission an thi was before the “cross”
Do you deny the Gospel of the kingdom of God?
Did Jesus teach Mercy or Sacrifice? Please choose one because he didn't teach both.
By the way, you still never told me. Who Sacrificed Jesus an to whom was this sacrifice offered up to?
with a sacrifice somene has to give something up, How can God give Christ up to God? That would be lik you taking money from checking an putting it into savings and calling it a loss.
Hi BD,The “Kingdom of God” (that Jesus preached) came on “Pentecost”.
Ed (witness)
Hello Edj,are you there?
Maybe you can help.WHY DOES MY COMPUTER; EVERYTIME SAY THIS:
stop running this script?
A script on this page is causing your web browser to run slow.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 05 2013,19:49) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 05 2013,18:02) Quote (seekingtruth @ July 05 2013,13:01) I take it literally that Jesus died on what to us is Wed. evening near sunset,(the very time that the lamb was slain for Passover). For the Israelites one day changed to another at sunset, so Jesus was dead starting with 24 hours of Thursday (annual Sabbath), 24 hours of Friday (prepared the spices and waited for the 3 day “seal” to expire), and 24 hours of Saturday (the weekly Sabbath), the resurrection occurred what for us would be Saturday evening near sunset. This had Jesus dead at the 3 days and 3 nights just as He had proclaimed as the only sign to be given. My opinion – Wm
Okay, so he didn't rise ON the third day, he rose after the third day?
Boditharta.**Lets just use our days: to avoid confusion**.
1. Thursday 3pm he died.
Thursday night. (one day,one night).2. Friday.
Friday night. (two days,two nights).3. Saturday.
Saturday night. (three days three nights).4. Sunday morning at 6am he rose.
The first day of the week.(jewish).wakeup.
Bodhitharta,I was wrong. I thought that Jesus was captured on a thursday, but it was a wednesday night, and he died on the thursday. Sorry about that, and thank you for clarifying that with me Wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,16:19) Hello Edj,are you there?
Maybe you can help.WHY DOES MY COMPUTER; EVERYTIME SAY THIS:
stop running this script?
A script on this page is causing your web browser to run slow.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Always say “NO” to downloading script!
Ed
bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus was born of a virgin. Moses and Muhammad were not
Jesus was not a warrior. Moses and Muhammad went to war
Jesus did not bring Law. Moses and Muhammad brought Law
Jesus had a short ministry(3 years) Moses and Muhammad
had life long ministriesJesus never led a nation both Moses ad Muhammad did
Jesus is UNIQUE created with a PURE SPIRIT and can only be compared to Adam in creation but where Adam failed and yielded to temptation Jesus succeeded and over came sin and temptation although he was tempted in all ways.
BD,
IS THAT ALL?
A MERE SIX,
I WILL PREPARE A LIST FOR YOU!
THEN YOU WOULD REALIZE WITH EVERY RESPECT HOW POOR YOU ARE REGARDING :
BOTH JESUS AND MOSES!
IF THERE ARE MORE YOU BETTER POST THEM BECAUSE MINE WOULD BE QUITE A LONG LIST!
JESUS HAD A MYSTERIOUS BIRTH! MOSES ALSO HAD A MYSTERIOUS BIRTH! MORE TO COME REGARDING BIRTH
JESUS WON THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL BATTLE ,AND HE HAD BEATEN SATAN IN ORDER TO GIVE FREEDOM TO ALL THE ENTIRE HUMANITY A REAL WARIOUR !
JESUS ESTABLISHED THE ETERNAL LAWS SPIRITUAL! AND ONLY BY THEM WOULD ALL THE ENTIRE SOULS WOULD BE JUDGED!
JESUS MINISTERY IS STILL THE LONGEST MINISTERY!
HE STARTED IT WITH THE CREATION AND STILL MINISTERRING THROUGH HIS UNIVERSAL HIS CHURCH!
JESUS IS LEADING ALL THE ENTIRE NATIONS WITH HIS SPIRIT WITHIN, OTHERWISE NO ONE WOULD EXIST!
HE IS THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE!
JESUS WAS NEVER CREATED, BUT EMANATED AS A SPIRIT HE CREATED THE ENTIRE CREATION AS THE WORD, THE TRIUNE GOD, WITH THE FULL POWER OF THE FATHER WITHIN THE SON'S SPIRIT! THEN HE WAS BORN AS THE WORD MADE FLESH MAN AND GOD
TWO PERSONS IN ONE BEING! TWO IN ONE FLESH
Genesis:2:24Wherefore a manJESUS BEFORE OUR CREATION shall leave father and AFTER CREATIONmother,and shall cleave to his wife: THE CHURCH and they shall be two in one flesh THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS SOUL, AND JESUS FLESH BODY
CHARLES
Quote (carmel @ July 08 2013,17:51) bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus was born of a virgin. Moses and Muhammad were not
Jesus was not a warrior. Moses and Muhammad went to war
Jesus did not bring Law. Moses and Muhammad brought Law
Jesus had a short ministry(3 years) Moses and Muhammad
had life long ministriesJesus never led a nation both Moses ad Muhammad did
Jesus is UNIQUE created with a PURE SPIRIT and can only be compared to Adam in creation but where Adam failed and yielded to temptation Jesus succeeded and over came sin and temptation although he was tempted in all ways.
BD,
IS THAT ALL?
A MERE SIX,
I WILL PREPARE A LIST FOR YOU!
THEN YOU WOULD REALIZE WITH EVERY RESPECT HOW POOR YOU ARE REGARDING :
BOTH JESUS AND MOSES!
IF THERE ARE MORE YOU BETTER POST THEM BECAUSE MINE WOULD BE QUITE A LONG LIST!
JESUS HAD A MYSTERIOUS BIRTH! MOSES ALSO HAD A MYSTERIOUS BIRTH! MORE TO COME REGARDING BIRTH
JESUS WON THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL BATTLE ,AND HE HAD BEATEN SATAN IN ORDER TO GIVE FREEDOM TO ALL THE ENTIRE HUMANITY A REAL WARIOUR !
JESUS ESTABLISHED THE ETERNAL LAWS SPIRITUAL! AND ONLY BY THEM WOULD ALL THE ENTIRE SOULS WOULD BE JUDGED!
JESUS MINISTERY IS STILL THE LONGEST MINISTERY!
HE STARTED IT WITH THE CREATION AND STILL MINISTERRING THROUGH HIS UNIVERSAL HIS CHURCH!
JESUS IS LEADING ALL THE ENTIRE NATIONS WITH HIS SPIRIT WITHIN, OTHERWISE NO ONE WOULD EXIST!
HE IS THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE!
JESUS WAS NEVER CREATED, BUT EMANATED AS A SPIRIT HE CREATED THE ENTIRE CREATION AS THE WORD, THE TRIUNE GOD, WITH THE FULL POWER OF THE FATHER WITHIN THE SON'S SPIRIT! THEN HE WAS BORN AS THE WORD MADE FLESH MAN AND GOD
TWO PERSONS IN ONE BEING! TWO IN ONE FLESH
Genesis:2:24Wherefore a manJESUS BEFORE OUR CREATION shall leave father and AFTER CREATIONmother,and shall cleave to his wife: THE CHURCH and they shall be two in one flesh THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS SOUL, AND JESUS FLESH BODY
CHARLES
Colossians 1:15. Who is the image of the invisible God,
the *FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE*.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,18:15) Colossians 1:15. Who is the image of the invisible God,
the *FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE*.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,That simply refers to Jesus preeminence – NOT TO A CREATED PREEXISTANT ANGELIC BEING!
“the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.” (Col 1:18)Ed
Quote (Ed J @ July 08 2013,19:04) Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,18:15) Colossians 1:15. Who is the image of the invisible God,
the *FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE*.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,That simply refers to Jesus preeminence – NOT TO A CREATED PREEXISTANT ANGELIC BEING!
“the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.” (Col 1:18)Ed
There you go Ed. Jesus was born twice.
His *first* birth was in the flesh;he was flesh.
Then **born again** in the spirit;now he is spirit.wakeup.
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote That simply refers to Jesus preeminence Edj,
YES!
SO Since ALL WAS CREATED BY Jesus' spirit the word HE WAS THE ACTUAL SPIRIT USED BY THE FATHER TO CREATE ONLY THE FIRST SPECIES OF EVERY KIND OF CREATURE, WHICH WAS EVER CREATED, THEN THE NATURE CONTINUED PRODUCING ACCORDINGLY!
I HOPE I AM CLEAR ENOUGH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,13:12) Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,17:04) Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2013,16:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,13:21) Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2013,13:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,12:36) Bing dead fo 3 day and nights is not “AS JONAH WAS” it is not like Jonah at all. If that were the case he could have said like”Lazarus”
Boditharta.I can see that you are a defender of the qur'án, not the *truth*.
This is how you have to *refute* many sriptures in the bible to justify the qur'an.
To give more strenght to the qur'an.Because the history of the qur'an does not look good.
Mohamad; the sole model of islam; his history does not look good. Not a man to follow.Jesus is faultless;he,and his teachings, we can follow.
wakeup.
Muhammad is not the sole model of Islam.His history however is much like the history of Moses in regards to being a human born man, warrior….
Acts 3:22
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.Was Jesus like Moses?
I agree with you, Jesus is not like Moses or Muhammad but Moses and Muhammad are alike
Boditharta.If you really think that much of Jesus,why not follow his teachings,and dont reject his sacrifice.
For he died for you,and you must bring all your petitions to him.He is Gods representative.One can not come in a bank and pass the queue;and go straight to the managers office, and knock on his door.
One must follow the system.wakeup.
can you tell me who Zachariah went to when praying for a son?Luke 1:13
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
Boditharta.Zecharaiah the priest,prayed straight to God.
Because the Messiah(the anointed) has not come yet.
Since Jesus has come, and died for us; now we all must go through him.
For he has been given the cheque book,and he alone can write out the cheques.
No one can come to God for a cheque,anymore.
No, not even muslems;all must follow the system.wakeup.
So you believe that people could have a direct relationship with God until Jesus came?Although Jesus says you can talk directly to Go because God loves you Himself an you believe tht Jesus came out of God?
Boditharta.Back then they pray straight to God.
Untill the Messiah came.This is what Jesus truly said: No man can come to the Father but by Me.
We still pray *to God*;but always in *the name* of Jesus.wakeup.
Quote (carmel @ July 09 2013,02:39) Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote That simply refers to Jesus preeminence Edj,
YES!
SO Since ALL WAS CREATED BY Jesus' spirit the word HE WAS THE ACTUAL SPIRIT USED BY THE FATHER TO CREATE ONLY THE FIRST SPECIES OF EVERY KIND OF CREATURE, WHICH WAS EVER CREATED, THEN THE NATURE CONTINUED PRODUCING ACCORDINGLY!
I HOPE I AM CLEAR ENOUGH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.That is so untidy and confusing.
Is Jesus a creature or not?wakeup.
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 06 2013,03:25) Quote (seekingtruth @ July 05 2013,18:55) Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.If Jesus was raised on Saturday towards evening He would have spent 3 days in the earth and yet of raised on the third day.
My opinion – Wm
Jesus wasn't buried or under the earth. The only way he was as Jonah was that Jonah was ALIVE and escaping certain death by prayers and supplication.bodhitharta,
Jesus WAS in a tomb buried and under the earth. The way he was as Jonah is that Jonah did die as shown in verse 6 as I posted before:Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 22 2010,09:04) Quote
“ Out of the belly of Sheol I cried,
And You heard my voice.
3 For You cast me into the deep,
Into the heart of the seas,
And the floods surrounded me;
All Your billows and Your waves passed over me.
4 Then I said, ‘I have been cast out of Your sight;
Yet I will look again toward Your holy temple.’
5 The waters surrounded me, even to my soul;
The deep closed around me;
Weeds were wrapped around my head.
6 I went down to the moorings of the mountains;
The earth with its bars closed behind me forever;
Yet You have brought up my life from the pit,
O LORD, my God.
7 “ When my soul fainted within me,
I remembered the LORD;
And my prayer went up to You,
Into Your holy temple.
8 “ Those who regard worthless idols
Forsake their own Mercy.
9 But I will sacrifice to You
With the voice of thanksgiving;
I will pay what I have vowed.
Salvation is of the LORD.”10 So the LORD spoke to the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land.
I believe Jonah died otherwise verse 6 makes no sense.
The YOUNG'S LITERAL TRANSLATION has it as “The earth, her bars [are] behind me to the age. And Thou bringest up from the pit my life, O Jehovah my God.” The pit in the OT was the holding place for souls (at least for those of us who believe Jesus was being literal with the Lazarus tale)
My opinion – Wm
Probably won't help as you seem to have rejected scriptures, using them only however you can twist them to “support” your muslim belief or to attempt to trip others up.My opinion – Wm
Wakeup,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Is Jesus a creature or not? Wakeup,
JESUS IS NOT A CREATURE!
JESUS' SPIRIT, WAS:
THE WORD,
THE TRIUNE GOD!
THE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD!
WITHIN HIM HE HAD, BOTH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND THE FATHER! THE GODHEAD IN HIM! ALL GOD'S SPIRITUAL POWERS IN HIM!
AND THROUGH HIM ALL WAS CREATED!
SO HE WAS THE SPIRIT WHICH WAS USED BY THE FATHER TO CREATE ALL!
THE SAME THING LIKE WHEN HE WAS
THE WORD MADE FLESH
GOD and MAN
THE FATHER WAS IN JESUS SOUL,THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AND JESUS PERFORMED ALL HIS MIRACLES!
SO ACTUALLY THE FATHER WAS DOING THE WORK!
SO THE FATHER within JESUS' SOUL ,the Holy Spirit
both in JESUS' FLESH BODY, MANIFESTED ALL HIS WORK WHILE ON EARTH!YOU, AS FLESH BODY, ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING!
YOUR SOUL IS ACTUALLY DOING EVERYTHING!
THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN YOUR SOUL IS THE ACTUAL LIFE SOURCE! EVEN WHEN YOU DO EVIL!
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM, and WALK IN DARKNESS, we lie, and DO not the TRUTH. OBVIOUS BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE DOING ACCORDING TO THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE WITHIN US, WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
BEFORE REDEMPTION, HUMANS WERE UNDER SATAN'S SPIRIT SOURCE, THE BLOOD AND THE SOUL WAS IN THE BLOOD, BECAUSE OF ADAM SIN,
BUT WITHIN SATAN THERE WAS THE TRIUNE GOD HIDDEN, THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE OTHERWISE HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE POWER TO DO ANYTHING!
JESUS PURPOSELY CAME IN FLESH AND BLOOD, LIKE ALL OF US, TO REMOVE SATAN FROM WITHIN THE BLOOD, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT TOOK OVER!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ July 09 2013,08:17) Wakeup,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Is Jesus a creature or not? Wakeup,
JESUS IS NOT A CREATURE!
JESUS' SPIRIT, WAS:
THE WORD,
THE TRIUNE GOD!
THE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD!
WITHIN HIM HE HAD, BOTH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND THE FATHER! THE GODHEAD IN HIM! ALL GOD'S SPIRITUAL POWERS IN HIM!
AND THROUGH HIM ALL WAS CREATED!
SO HE WAS THE SPIRIT WHICH WAS USED BY THE FATHER TO CREATE ALL!
THE SAME THING LIKE WHEN HE WAS
THE WORD MADE FLESH
GOD and MAN
THE FATHER WAS IN JESUS SOUL,THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AND JESUS PERFORMED ALL HIS MIRACLES!
SO ACTUALLY THE FATHER WAS DOING THE WORK!
SO THE FATHER within JESUS' SOUL ,the Holy Spirit
both in JESUS' FLESH BODY, MANIFESTED ALL HIS WORK WHILE ON EARTH!YOU, AS FLESH BODY, ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING!
YOUR SOUL IS ACTUALLY DOING EVERYTHING!
THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN YOUR SOUL IS THE ACTUAL LIFE SOURCE! EVEN WHEN YOU DO EVIL!
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM, and WALK IN DARKNESS, we lie, and DO not the TRUTH. OBVIOUS BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE DOING ACCORDING TO THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE WITHIN US, WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT
BEFORE REDEMPTION, HUMANS WERE UNDER SATAN'S SPIRIT SOURCE, THE BLOOD AND THE SOUL WAS IN THE BLOOD, BECAUSE OF ADAM SIN,
BUT WITHIN SATAN THERE WAS THE TRIUNE GOD HIDDEN, THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE OTHERWISE HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE POWER TO DO ANYTHING!
JESUS PURPOSELY CAME IN FLESH AND BLOOD, LIKE ALL OF US, TO REMOVE SATAN FROM WITHIN THE BLOOD, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT TOOK OVER!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.What then; would you say about Pauls
statement?
Is he wrong and you are right?He said it clear and simple.
JESUS IS THE FIRST *BORN* OF EVERY
*CREATURE*.wakeup.
Wakeup,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote JESUS IS THE FIRST *BORN* OF EVERY
*CREATURE*.Wakeup,
HE IS! I am not denying that!
YOU STILL CANNOT SEE THE WAY I SEE IT???
KEEP IN MIND THAT GOD NEVER TAKE SPACE, NO MATTER HOW MANY SPIRITS HE CREATES WITH, AND IN HOW SMALL A CREATURE IS !
JESUS'S SPIRIT, THE SON’S, WHO WAS THE WORD OF GOD,LEFT THE FATHER AS TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD.
SO THE FULL GOD HEAD IN THE SON’S SPIRIT,AND CREATED EVERY FIRST SPECIES IN OUR CREATION!
SO WHENEVER A NEW SPECIES WAS CREATED, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE WORD WAS WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR SPECIES IN ORDER TO BE CREATED, AND TO EXIST BY HIM,AND IN HIM!
IT'S GOOD TO BE AWARE OF THAT THE ACTUAL ELEMNT WHICH WAS USED BY GOD AS MATTER WERE LUCIFER'S AND HIS ANGELS' SPIRITS AND THE WORD WAS WITHIN THEM AS THE CREATOR, IN ORDER TO CREATE THROUGH THEM ONLY THE FIRST SPECIES, THEN THEY THEMSELVES PRODUCED IN QUANTITIES!
NOW ON THE CROSS, JESUS, THE WORD MADE FLESH, REMOVED SATAN'S SPIRIT, SINCE HE WAS THE OWNER OF ALL CREATION THROUGH ADAM SIN, AND AUTOMATICALLY, OFFICIALLY BECAME THE SOLE OWNER OF ALL CREATION!
THIS TRIUNE GOD THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT IS STILL WITHIN THE ENTIRE CREATION SEALED WITHIN NATURE! AS LONG AS THE WORLD EXISTS! TO GIVE IT LIFE
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you. For him hath God,THE FATHER SEALED.
6:51I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, FOR THE LIFE OF THE WORLD
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ July 10 2013,05:39) Wakeup,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote JESUS IS THE FIRST *BORN* OF EVERY
*CREATURE*.Wakeup,
HE IS! I am not denying that!
YOU STILL CANNOT SEE THE WAY I SEE IT???
KEEP IN MIND THAT GOD NEVER TAKE SPACE, NO MATTER HOW MANY SPIRITS HE CREATES WITH, AND IN HOW SMALL A CREATURE IS !
JESUS'S SPIRIT, THE SON’S, WHO WAS THE WORD OF GOD,LEFT THE FATHER AS TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD.
SO THE FULL GOD HEAD IN THE SON’S SPIRIT,AND CREATED EVERY FIRST SPECIES IN OUR CREATION!
SO WHENEVER A NEW SPECIES WAS CREATED, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE WORD WAS WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR SPECIES IN ORDER TO BE CREATED, AND TO EXIST BY HIM,AND IN HIM!
IT'S GOOD TO BE AWARE OF THAT THE ACTUAL ELEMNT WHICH WAS USED BY GOD AS MATTER WERE LUCIFER'S AND HIS ANGELS' SPIRITS AND THE WORD WAS WITHIN THEM AS THE CREATOR, IN ORDER TO CREATE THROUGH THEM ONLY THE FIRST SPECIES, THEN THEY THEMSELVES PRODUCED IN QUANTITIES!
NOW ON THE CROSS, JESUS, THE WORD MADE FLESH, REMOVED SATAN'S SPIRIT, SINCE HE WAS THE OWNER OF ALL CREATION THROUGH ADAM SIN, AND AUTOMATICALLY, OFFICIALLY BECAME THE SOLE OWNER OF ALL CREATION!
THIS TRIUNE GOD THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT IS STILL WITHIN THE ENTIRE CREATION SEALED WITHIN NATURE! AS LONG AS THE WORLD EXISTS! TO GIVE IT LIFE
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you. For him hath God,THE FATHER SEALED.
6:51I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, FOR THE LIFE OF THE WORLD
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Why does God say that HE created ALONE with NO ONE ELSE besides HIM?Quote (carmel @ July 10 2013,05:39) Wakeup,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote JESUS IS THE FIRST *BORN* OF EVERY
*CREATURE*.Wakeup,
HE IS! I am not denying that!
YOU STILL CANNOT SEE THE WAY I SEE IT???
KEEP IN MIND THAT GOD NEVER TAKE SPACE, NO MATTER HOW MANY SPIRITS HE CREATES WITH, AND IN HOW SMALL A CREATURE IS !
JESUS'S SPIRIT, THE SON’S, WHO WAS THE WORD OF GOD,LEFT THE FATHER AS TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD.
SO THE FULL GOD HEAD IN THE SON’S SPIRIT,AND CREATED EVERY FIRST SPECIES IN OUR CREATION!
SO WHENEVER A NEW SPECIES WAS CREATED, THE TRIUNE GOD, THE WORD WAS WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR SPECIES IN ORDER TO BE CREATED, AND TO EXIST BY HIM,AND IN HIM!
IT'S GOOD TO BE AWARE OF THAT THE ACTUAL ELEMNT WHICH WAS USED BY GOD AS MATTER WERE LUCIFER'S AND HIS ANGELS' SPIRITS AND THE WORD WAS WITHIN THEM AS THE CREATOR, IN ORDER TO CREATE THROUGH THEM ONLY THE FIRST SPECIES, THEN THEY THEMSELVES PRODUCED IN QUANTITIES!
NOW ON THE CROSS, JESUS, THE WORD MADE FLESH, REMOVED SATAN'S SPIRIT, SINCE HE WAS THE OWNER OF ALL CREATION THROUGH ADAM SIN, AND AUTOMATICALLY, OFFICIALLY BECAME THE SOLE OWNER OF ALL CREATION!
THIS TRIUNE GOD THE WORD THE SON’S SPIRIT IS STILL WITHIN THE ENTIRE CREATION SEALED WITHIN NATURE! AS LONG AS THE WORLD EXISTS! TO GIVE IT LIFE
John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you. For him hath God,THE FATHER SEALED.
6:51I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, FOR THE LIFE OF THE WORLD
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.Can you spare me from all YOUR explanations.
You say Paul was right; and Paul said *CREATURE*.
So is he a creature, or not?wakeup.
bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Why does God say that HE created ALONE with NO ONE ELSE besides HIM? BD,
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE STILL DIDN'T FUNCTION IN MORE THAN ONE!
YOU KNOW THAT THE EARTHWORM IS ONE, BUT HAS BOTH SEX ORGANS THEREFORE HE IS BOTH A MALE AND A FEMALE
DID IT OCCUR TO YOU THAT GOD ALSO IS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE?
SINCE HE CREATED HIM:IN THE IMAGE OF GOD, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE!
WHO CAN DISCERN WHAT GOD IS ?
EXPLAIN HOW GOD ALTHOUGH IS ONE HE IS IN ALL CREATURES!
SO GOD IN ORDER TO BE ONE HE OPTED TO BE MANY AS WELL!
HE CAN I SUPPOSE!
CHARLES
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