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Quote (bodhitharta @ July 04 2013,08:38) Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,05:35) Hi BD, You say you accept Jesus words, that is unless of course the 'book of fraud' differs, which FOR YOU trumps even Jesus' own words.
“For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men,
and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.” (Mark 9:31)“The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men,
and be crucified, and the third day rise again.” (Luke 24:7)“And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge,
and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.” (Matt 20:19)WHICH PROVES THAT the quran IS 100% UNTRUE!
Ed (witness)
Okay ED, Jesus said accordng to the scriptures:Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Was Jesus in the tomb a third night? Yes or No
Hi BD,Is this yet another distraction? Do you believe that Jesus died
for him to be in the tomb for ANY length of time – “Yes” or “No” ?One step at a time.
Ed
Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,10:04) Quote Okay ED, Jesus said accordng to the scriptures: Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Was Jesus in the tomb a third night? Yes or No
Hi BD,Is this yet another distraction? Do you believe that Jesus died
for him to be in the tomb for ANY length of time – “Yes” or “No” ?One step at a time.
Ed
NO, Now can you answer my question. Do you beieve that Jesus rose on the third day or after Three days and Three nights?I took thefirst step per YOUR requirement to answer my question so could you please answer it now?
Hi BD
We been through this before, but you probably don't remember as you do NOT believe the bible.
Jesus died around 3:00PM (called the 9th hour),
they needed to get Jesus BURIED before dark,
which is at 7:30 – 8:00PM at that time of year.Lets say they put Jesus in the tomb at around 6:30PM. (<– Dead for 3½ hours now)
6:30PM the next day would be one day and one night. (<– DAY 1)
6:30PM the next day would be two days and two nights. (<– DAY 2)
Lets say YHVH resurrects Jesus at 5:30PM on the third day. (<– DAY 3)
Jesus would be resurrected ON THE THIRD DAY. and he would have spent
3 days and 3 nights in the tomb. But you don't believe any of it anyway.Ed (witness)
Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,14:35) Hi BD We been through this before, but you probably don't remember as you do NOT believe the bible.
Jesus died around 3:00PM (called the 9th hour),
they needed to get Jesus BURIED before dark,
which is at 7:30 – 8:00PM at that time of year.Lets say they put Jesus in the tomb at around 6:30PM. (<– Dead for 3½ hours now)
6:30PM the next day would be one day and one night. (<– DAY 1)
6:30PM the next day would be two days and two nights. (<– DAY 2)
Lets say YHVH resurrects Jesus at 5:30PM on the third day. (<– DAY 3)
Jesus would be resurrected ON THE THIRD DAY. and he would have spent
3 days and 3 nights in the tomb. But you don't believe any of it anyway.Ed (witness)
It didn't say he would be dead for 3 day and 3 nights but in th tomb dead for three days and three nights so you say he was in the tomb arund evening.ED you a missing a third evening and we all know the days are from sun up to sunset anth nightsare from sunset to to sun up and Jesus wasnot in the tomb early sunday while it was still dark(evening)
You can't do both, you cannot rise ON the third day andafte the third day so which is it?
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 04 2013,14:46) Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,14:35) Hi BD We been through this before, but you probably don't remember as you do NOT believe the bible.
Jesus died around 3:00PM (called the 9th hour),
they needed to get Jesus BURIED before dark,
which is at 7:30 – 8:00PM at that time of year.Lets say they put Jesus in the tomb at around 6:30PM. (<– Dead for 3½ hours now)
6:30PM the next day would be one day and one night. (<– DAY 1)
6:30PM the next day would be two days and two nights. (<– DAY 2)
Lets say YHVH resurrects Jesus at 5:30PM on the third day. (<– DAY 3)
Jesus would be resurrected ON THE THIRD DAY. and he would have spent
3 days and 3 nights in the tomb. But you don't believe any of it anyway.Ed (witness)
It didn't say he would be dead for 3 day and 3 nights but in th tomb dead for three days and three nights so you say he was in the tomb arund evening.ED you a missing a third evening and we all know the days are from sun up to sunset anth nightsare from sunset to to sun up and Jesus wasnot in the tomb early sunday while it was still dark(evening)
You can't do both, you cannot rise ON the third day andafte the third day so which is it?
Hi BD,The evening begins first, which starts at 6:00 pm.
Ed
Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,15:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 04 2013,14:46) Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,14:35) Hi BD We been through this before, but you probably don't remember as you do NOT believe the bible.
Jesus died around 3:00PM (called the 9th hour),
they needed to get Jesus BURIED before dark,
which is at 7:30 – 8:00PM at that time of year.Lets say they put Jesus in the tomb at around 6:30PM. (<– Dead for 3½ hours now)
6:30PM the next day would be one day and one night. (<– DAY 1)
6:30PM the next day would be two days and two nights. (<– DAY 2)
Lets say YHVH resurrects Jesus at 5:30PM on the third day. (<– DAY 3)
Jesus would be resurrected ON THE THIRD DAY. and he would have spent
3 days and 3 nights in the tomb. But you don't believe any of it anyway.Ed (witness)
It didn't say he would be dead for 3 day and 3 nights but in th tomb dead for three days and three nights so you say he was in the tomb arund evening.ED you a missing a third evening and we all know the days are from sun up to sunset anth nightsare from sunset to to sun up and Jesus wasnot in the tomb early sunday while it was still dark(evening)
You can't do both, you cannot rise ON the third day andafte the third day so which is it?
Hi BD,The evening begins first, which starts at 6:00 pm.
Ed
Okay, so there was evening and morning (day 1) evening and morning(daytwo) Evening and morning (day three) so did he arise that evening while it was still dark?Hi BD,
No, according to the time-line chart,
he would have risen during daylight as
5:30 PM is still daytime “on” the third day.Ed
Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,15:50) Hi BD, No, according to the time-line chart,
he would have risen during daylight as
5:30 PM is still daytime “on” the third day.Ed
John 20:1Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
20 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 04 2013,16:01) Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,15:50) Hi BD, No, according to the time-line chart,
he would have risen during daylight as
5:30 PM is still daytime “on” the third day.Ed
John 20:1Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
20 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre
That would be the fourth day, and Jesus is already resurrected.Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,16:04) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 04 2013,16:01) Quote (Ed J @ July 04 2013,15:50) Hi BD, No, according to the time-line chart,
he would have risen during daylight as
5:30 PM is still daytime “on” the third day.Ed
John 20:1Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
20 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre
That would be the fourth day, and Jesus is already resurrected.
Mark 15
40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome; 41 (who also, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered unto him;) and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem.42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, 43 Joseph of Arimathæa, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. 44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead. 45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. 46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. 47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid.
Mark 16
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. 2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
These verses show that after the event there was only ONE DAY in between
42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, 9the day before the sabbath,
16 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Now, who tries to annoint the dead after 3 days? NO ONE!
Can you now admit wht you just read according to the scriptures the women on the day of the “crucifixion” fallowed the people to where thy laid Jesus and after the sabbath which was th next day came to annoint Jesus while it was yet dark. This entire episode was more like a little over 24 hours if you are being honest about it.
bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Was Jesus in the tomb a third night? Yes or No
BD,
YES!
THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE IS TRUE!
JESUS THE SON OF MAN WAS BURIED FOR THEREE DAYS!
JESUS THE SON OF GOD (HIS SOUL) WAS IN HELL FOR THREE NIGHTS!
HAPPY?
NOW CONTRADICT ME USING WHATEVER YOU WANT!
BIBLE
OR
QURAN
CHARLES
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote Lets say YHVH resurrects Jesus at 5:30PM on the third day. 9Jesus answered, and said to them: Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up
Edj, and BD,
SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:
I WILL RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS
THE ABOVE IS ONLY A REFERENCE TO JESUS' FLESH BODY NOT THE SOUL!
JESUS' FLESH BODY,IS THE SON'S SPIRIT, AND THE SON HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF LIKE THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF!
JESUS SPIRITUALIZED HIS OWN FLESH BODY, NOT LIKE WHAT HAPPEN TO LAZARUS HE CAME FROM DEATH TO LIFE !
JESUS DIED HIS DEATH AT 3.OO AFTERNOON THE LAST 3 HOURS OF THE FIRST DAY
HE WAS A FULL DAY IN THE GRAVE STAURDAY 6.00 IN THE EVENING! THE SECOND DAY
HE RAISED HIMSELF UP ON THE FOLLOWING EARLY MORNING OF THE 3RD. DAY 3.00 A.M
HE ANTICIPATED THE TIME SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DIED AT 3.00 ON FRIDAY!
SO THE ABOVE IS PERFECT ON TIME REGARDING JESUS RESURRECTION, OR RATHER MORE APPROPRIATE: SPIRITUALIZED HIS BODY! A PROCESS WHICH STARTED WELL BEFORE HIS PASSION!
SO HE BECAME TOTALLY ONE UNIQUE BEING IN SPIRIT AND FLESH BODY!
NOW HIS SOUL THE HOLY SPIRIT
THE FIRST NIGHT FRIDAY AT 6.00
THE SECOND NIGHT SATURDAY AT 6.00
THE THIRD NIGHT SUNDAY AT 6.00
PERFECT THREE NIGHTS
CONFIRMATION
JOHN 20:
17 Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ascended to my Father.
THE FIRST PROOF:
ascended to IS DEFINITELY NOT JESUS ASCENDED TO HEAVEN TO BE PRAISED IN ANY WAY BY HIS FATHER, BUT:
ASCENDED IN THE POWER OF THE FATHER !
WORD STUDIES
TO: 4314 prós (a preposition) – properly, motion towards to “interface with” (literally, moving toward a goal or destination).
4314 /prós (“towards, with”) indicates “extension toward a goal, with implied interaction or reciprocity (L & N, 1, 84.18), with “presumed contact and reaction” (L & N, 1, 84.23). 4314 (prós) naturally suggests the cycle of initiation and response (L-N, 1,90.25, 90.33).
[4314 (prós) can mean “in view of,” or “in light of, but never “against,” except where the context indicates an active exchange (interface) done in opposition.
OBVIOUS WITH THE UNIFICATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, HIS SOUL, WHICH WAS STILL IN HELL GLORIFIED IN THE FLESH BODY, PREACHING THE GOSPEL TO ALL THOSE SOULS WHO WERE BORN THROUGH ADAM!
But go to my brethren, and say to them: I ascend to my Father and to your Father, to my God and your God.
SECOND PROOF CONFIRMATION BY JESUS THAT HE EVENTUALLY WOULD BE IN FULL POWER OF THE FATHER, AFTER 6.00 THAT SAME EVENING!
19Now when it was late that same day,
THE THIRD PROOF LATE THAT SAME DAY
THEREFORE AFTER 6.00
THEREFORE THREE NIGHTS PERFECT
the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you.
THE MOST IMPORTANT:
JESUS CONFIRMED HIS SUPERIOR STATE WITH THE UNIFICATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BECAME THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN BOTH SPIRIT, AND FLESH BODY
WHERE EARLIER JESUS INSTRUCTED MAGDALENE NOT TO TOUCH HIM, OBVIOUS HE HAD NO POWER TO PROTECT HER SINCE SHE WAS A MORTAL PERSON!
THIS TIME,HE ENTERRED THROUGH STONE WALLS AND REVEALED HIMSELF IN THE MIDST OF THEM. HE NEVER ACTUALLY BOTHERRED REGARDING ANYONE TOUCHES HIM!
He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. 22When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost.
AS THE FATHER HAD SENT ME:
OBVIOUS AS SOON AS THE HOLY SPIRIT UNITED WITH JESUS, THE FATHER DIRECTED JESUS TO THEM!
SO NO DOUBT REGARDING JESUS’ UNIFICATION WITH THE HOLY GHOST SINCE HE HIMSELF GAVE THE DISCIPLES THE HOLY GHOST THROUGH HIS BREATH
THE SAME THING GOD DID TO ADAM!
Peace and love in Jesus
CharlesQuote (carmel @ July 04 2013,17:14) bodhitharta,July wrote:[/quote]
Quote Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Was Jesus in the tomb a third night? Yes or No
BD,
YES!
THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE IS TRUE!
JESUS THE SON OF MAN WAS BURIED FOR THEREE DAYS!
JESUS THE SON OF GOD (HIS SOUL) WAS IN HELL FOR THREE NIGHTS!
HAPPY?
NOW CONTRADICT ME USING WHATEVER YOU WANT!
BIBLE
OR
QURAN
CHARLES
Jesus had a normal body when his disciples saw him:Luke 24:38-40
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that ]B]it is I myself: handle me, and see[/B]; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
The man and the soul had to be in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights as was Jonah.
Jesus had flesh bones and blood, he also ate
Quote (carmel @ July 05 2013,07:02) Quote Edj, and BD, SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:
I WILL RAISE IT UP IN THREE DAYS
Yes, and it is all he is will be raised up not part of him or a different him.
Quote THE ABOVE IS ONLY A REFERENCE TO JESUS' FLESH BODY NOT THE SOUL! A souless body is a dead body.
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.Quote JESUS' FLESH BODY,IS THE SON'S SPIRIT, AND THE SON HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF LIKE THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF! Then the entire Body an Spirit rose
Quote JESUS SPIRITUALIZED HIS OWN FLESH BODY, NOT LIKE WHAT HAPPEN TO LAZARUS HE CAME FROM DEATH TO LIFE ! Jesus denies this himself saying
Luke 24:39
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.He is denying he is a spirit in ayway
Quote JESUS DIED HIS DEATH AT 3.OO AFTERNOON THE LAST 3 HOURS OF THE FIRST DAY Jesus wasn't in th tomb for three days or nights because the scriptures say it was the third day after he was arrested which was at night and the next day he was “Crucified” that night the women followed the people that layed him in the tomb then the Sabbath occured which was over Saturday evening so early the first day of the week the tomb was empty this was the third day from the time he was arrested but only a little over one day whe he wasn't seen at all
So he could not have been dead 3 days and 3 nights e could not even be dead for two days:
Luke 24:7
saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men—-day 1—-, and be crucified—-day 2—, and the third day rise again.That would mean “as Jonah was” means something else Jonah was ALIVE during his sufferings
Quote HE WAS A FULL DAY IN THE GRAVE STAURDAY 6.00 IN THE EVENING! THE SECOND DAY Agree on the time but not the condition
Quote HE RAISED HIMSELF UP ON THE FOLLOWING EARLY MORNING OF THE 3RD. DAY 3.00 A.M HE ANTICIPATED THE TIME SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DIED AT 3.00 ON FRIDAY![Quote]
But you still disregard the night
[Quote]SO THE ABOVE IS PERFECT ON TIME REGARDING JESUS RESURRECTION, OR RATHER MORE APPROPRIATE: SPIRITUALIZED HIS BODY! A PROCESS WHICH STARTED WELL BEFORE HIS PASSION!
SO HE BECAME TOTALLY ONE UNIQUE BEING IN SPIRIT AND FLESH BODY!
Not necessary
Quote NOW HIS SOUL THE HOLY SPIRIT THE FIRST NIGHT FRIDAY AT 6.00
THE SECOND NIGHT SATURDAY AT 6.00
THE THIRD NIGHT SUNDAY AT 6.00
PERFECT THREE NIGHTS
No need he was alive and eating
Quote CONFIRMATION JOHN 20:
17 Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ascended to my Father.
i.e. I am not dead
Quote THE FIRST PROOF: ascended to IS DEFINITELY NOT JESUS ASCENDED TO HEAVEN TO BE PRAISED IN ANY WAY BY HIS FATHER, BUT:
John 20:17
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.Quote ASCENDED IN THE POWER OF THE FATHER ! WORD STUDIES
TO: 4314 prós (a preposition) – properly, motion towards to “interface with” (literally, moving toward a goal or destination).
4314 /prós (“towards, with”) indicates “extension toward a goal, with implied interaction or reciprocity (L & N, 1, 84.18), with “presumed contact and reaction” (L & N, 1, 84.23). 4314 (prós) naturally suggests the cycle of initiation and response (L-N, 1,90.25, 90.33).
[4314 (prós) can mean “in view of,” or “in light of, but never “against,” except where the context indicates an active exchange (interface) done in opposition.
OBVIOUS WITH THE UNIFICATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, HIS SOUL, WHICH WAS STILL IN HELL GLORIFIED IN THE FLESH BODY, PREACHING THE GOSPEL TO ALL THOSE SOULS WHO WERE BORN THROUGH ADAM!
But go to my brethren, and say to them: I ascend to my Father and to your Father, to my God and your God.
SECOND PROOF CONFIRMATION BY JESUS THAT HE EVENTUALLY WOULD BE IN FULL POWER OF THE FATHER, AFTER 6.00 THAT SAME EVENING!
19Now when it was late that same day,
THE THIRD PROOF LATE THAT SAME DAY
THEREFORE AFTER 6.00
THEREFORE THREE NIGHTS PERFECT
the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you.
THE MOST IMPORTANT:
JESUS CONFIRMED HIS SUPERIOR STATE WITH THE UNIFICATION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BECAME THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN BOTH SPIRIT, AND FLESH BODY
WHERE EARLIER JESUS INSTRUCTED MAGDALENE NOT TO TOUCH HIM, OBVIOUS HE HAD NO POWER TO PROTECT HER SINCE SHE WAS A MORTAL PERSON!
THIS TIME,HE ENTERRED THROUGH STONE WALLS AND REVEALED HIMSELF IN THE MIDST OF THEM. HE NEVER ACTUALLY BOTHERRED REGARDING ANYONE TOUCHES HIM!
He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. 22When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost.
AS THE FATHER HAD SENT ME:
OBVIOUS AS SOON AS THE HOLY SPIRI
T UNITED WITH JESUS, THE FATHER DIRECTED JESUS TO THEM!SO NO DOUBT REGARDING JESUS’ UNIFICATION WITH THE HOLY GHOST SINCE HE HIMSELF GAVE THE DISCIPLES THE HOLY GHOST THROUGH HIS BREATH
THE SAME THING GOD DID TO ADAM!
Peace and love in Jesus
Not needed no mention of walking through stone walls just good old fashion eating with friends
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 04 2013,14:46) Ed (witness)[/quote]
It didn't say he would be dead for 3 day and 3 nights but in th tomb dead for three days and three nights so you say he was in the tomb arund evening.ED you a missing a third evening and we all know the days are from sun up to sunset anth nightsare from sunset to to sun up and Jesus wasnot in the tomb early sunday while it was still dark(evening)
You can't do both, you cannot rise ON the third day andafte the third day so which is it?
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [/QUOTE]Hi Boditharta
Jesus was captured on a thursday evening. As soon as this happened, he was in the hands of death.
Night 1 – thurs evening
Night 2 – fri evening
Night 3 – sat evening
3 NIGHTSDay 1 – Friday
Day 2 – Sat
Day 3 – Sun (risen on the 3rd day, in the morning)
3 DAYSQuote (journey42 @ July 05 2013,10:58)
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Quote Hi Boditharta Jesus was captured on a thursday evening. As soon as this happened, he was in the hands of death.
Okay.
Quote Night 1 – thurs evening
Night 2 – fri evening
Night 3 – sat evening
3 NIGHTSOkay
Quote Day 1 – Friday
Day 2 – Sat
Day 3 – Sun (risen on the 3rd day, in the morning)
3 DAYSSo he wasn't in the tomb the third day because he rose from it? we both agree that he wasn't in the tomb Thursday night, right?
So was the Prophecy Jonah about th time or the condition?
Jesus says “AS WAS” Jonah. Jonah ddn't die he was alive the whole time he was in the whale
I take it literally that Jesus died on what to us is Wed. evening near sunset,(the very time that the lamb was slain for Passover). For the Israelites one day changed to another at sunset, so Jesus was dead starting with 24 hours of Thursday (annual Sabbath), 24 hours of Friday (prepared the spices and waited for the 3 day “seal” to expire), and 24 hours of Saturday (the weekly Sabbath), the resurrection occurred what for us would be Saturday evening near sunset. This had Jesus dead at the 3 days and 3 nights just as He had proclaimed as the only sign to be given.
My opinion – Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ July 05 2013,13:01) I take it literally that Jesus died on what to us is Wed. evening near sunset,(the very time that the lamb was slain for Passover). For the Israelites one day changed to another at sunset, so Jesus was dead starting with 24 hours of Thursday (annual Sabbath), 24 hours of Friday (prepared the spices and waited for the 3 day “seal” to expire), and 24 hours of Saturday (the weekly Sabbath), the resurrection occurred what for us would be Saturday evening near sunset. This had Jesus dead at the 3 days and 3 nights just as He had proclaimed as the only sign to be given. My opinion – Wm
Okay, so he didn't rise ON the third day, he rose after the third day?Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.If Jesus was raised on Saturday towards evening He would have spent 3 days in the earth and yet of raised on the third day.
My opinion – Wm
Quote (bodhitharta @ July 05 2013,18:02) Quote (seekingtruth @ July 05 2013,13:01) I take it literally that Jesus died on what to us is Wed. evening near sunset,(the very time that the lamb was slain for Passover). For the Israelites one day changed to another at sunset, so Jesus was dead starting with 24 hours of Thursday (annual Sabbath), 24 hours of Friday (prepared the spices and waited for the 3 day “seal” to expire), and 24 hours of Saturday (the weekly Sabbath), the resurrection occurred what for us would be Saturday evening near sunset. This had Jesus dead at the 3 days and 3 nights just as He had proclaimed as the only sign to be given. My opinion – Wm
Okay, so he didn't rise ON the third day, he rose after the third day?
Boditharta.**Lets just use our days: to avoid confusion**.
1. Thursday 3pm he died.
Thursday night. (one day,one night).2. Friday.
Friday night. (two days,two nights).3. Saturday.
Saturday night. (three days three nights).4. Sunday morning at 6am he rose.
The first day of the week.(jewish).wakeup.
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