Psalms 2:7 this day i have begotten you!

[NickHassan]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 21 2012,14:37)

So then you ADMIT that there ARE discrepancies between YOUR words and God's written word?   Hmmmmm…………………

Hi MB,
Jn6

33For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

The Spirit of life came from heaven and gives life to the world.

[mikeboll64]

But scripture says “JESUS” said those words. Scripture doesn't even HINT AT your doctrine, that the Spirit that was God and came to do not His own will, but God's will, was speaking those words through Jesus.

One shouldn't add their own imaginations into the scriptures, Nick. If your Lord JESUS said he came down from heaven, then it's best just to believe your Lord JESUS.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2012,23:48)

But it was the Word, the Spirit, that became united to Jesus of Nazareth.

Scriptures, please.  Because the ones I read say that the Word BECAME flesh.  They don't say the Word “came to be UNITED WITH flesh”.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2012,23:48)

He told them to eat his flesh and they were outta here.

Actually, he told them that he came down from heaven, and they all understood what he said.  And when they began grumbling about how a man they knew could say he came down from heaven, he hit them with, “Does this offend you?  What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!”

Where was the Son of Man BEFORE, Nick?  To where would he ascend, if not to the place he came down FROM?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Since the utter union between the Jesus and the Word Jesus Christ inherited all the history of the Word that was with God and was God.

PARTAKING of flesh is not conception.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,

Hebrews 1:4
having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2012,13:58)

Hi MB, Since the utter union between the Jesus and the Word Jesus Christ inherited all the history of the Word that was with God and was God.

Will this admitted “concept that came to you one night” suffice for you – even against scriptural contradictions to it?

I await your scripture in the “Word” thread, Nick. I'm waiting on one single SCRIPTURE that prohibits the pre-existence of the person Jesus. We have logged over FIFTY of them that support this doctrine. Where is your ONE that prohibits it?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
The Word preceded Abraham, Moses and even Adam.

[mikeboll64]

Well of course he did, Nick. All things in heaven and on earth, whether visible or invisible were created through him.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
But the WORD was not your lesser god, or your angel.

[mikeboll64]

Yeah he was. That's why he became flesh and had the glory of God's only begotten Son.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
But he did not take on the nature of angels
heb2

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