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Quote Yes Terra,as we now have computers,we also have many false teachings floating in the air. if you believe that you will convert people to your believes ,then you are wrong ,this is only true for a while until the person his enlighten by the spirit of truth in him,and so it is God that uses us men to save each other ,look at the story of Paul ,”Christ says love your enemy ” Paul end up being used to save many others ,and still does ,in a way.
Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,18:48) wakeup Quote Yes Terra,as we now have computers,we also have many false teachings floating in the air. if you believe that you will convert people to your believes ,then you are wrong ,this is only true for a while until the person his enlighten by the spirit of truth in him,and so it is God that uses us men to save each other ,look at the story of Paul ,”Christ says love your enemy ” Paul end up being used to save many others ,and still does ,in a way.
Terra.So you consider me a false teacher now since what I have shown you does not agree with what you have been taught.
Well correct me if you can,put things straight.
This is wrong bacause—-
That is wrong,because—–
Or your bible is wrong; my bible is better than yours.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,03:06) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,18:48) wakeup Quote Yes Terra,as we now have computers,we also have many false teachings floating in the air. if you believe that you will convert people to your believes ,then you are wrong ,this is only true for a while until the person his enlighten by the spirit of truth in him,and so it is God that uses us men to save each other ,look at the story of Paul ,”Christ says love your enemy ” Paul end up being used to save many others ,and still does ,in a way.
Terra.So you consider me a false teacher now since what I have shown you does not agree with what you have been taught.
Well correct me if you can,put things straight.
This is wrong bacause—-
That is wrong,because—–
Or your bible is wrong; my bible is better than yours.wakeup.
wupNO ,but to answer to your claim that their are many false teachers this is what I answered to
Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,20:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,03:06) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,18:48) wakeup Quote Yes Terra,as we now have computers,we also have many false teachings floating in the air. if you believe that you will convert people to your believes ,then you are wrong ,this is only true for a while until the person his enlighten by the spirit of truth in him,and so it is God that uses us men to save each other ,look at the story of Paul ,”Christ says love your enemy ” Paul end up being used to save many others ,and still does ,in a way.
Terra.So you consider me a false teacher now since what I have shown you does not agree with what you have been taught.
Well correct me if you can,put things straight.
This is wrong bacause—-
That is wrong,because—–
Or your bible is wrong; my bible is better than yours.wakeup.
wupNO ,but to answer to your claim that their are many false teachers this is what I answered to
Terra.I tell you what; you dont have any defence.I thought you are well informed in the prophesies.
I was wrong.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,20:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 01 2012,03:06) Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,18:48) wakeup Quote Yes Terra,as we now have computers,we also have many false teachings floating in the air. if you believe that you will convert people to your believes ,then you are wrong ,this is only true for a while until the person his enlighten by the spirit of truth in him,and so it is God that uses us men to save each other ,look at the story of Paul ,”Christ says love your enemy ” Paul end up being used to save many others ,and still does ,in a way.
Terra.So you consider me a false teacher now since what I have shown you does not agree with what you have been taught.
Well correct me if you can,put things straight.
This is wrong bacause—-
That is wrong,because—–
Or your bible is wrong; my bible is better than yours.wakeup.
wupNO ,but to answer to your claim that their are many false teachers this is what I answered to
Terra.I tell you what; you dont have any defence.I thought you are well informed in the prophesies.
I was wrong.wakeup.
wup
Quote Hello Pierre, Not so, i have been working away from home recently & will be doing so more & more in future.
Wakeup & J42 can speak in my place anytime they like, we see & hear the same Word.
We have answered all your questions, it is all there. We have many scriptures to back what we are saying, you have only a few, and even those you use i/we disagree with and see things you do not.
So there is no use going over the same thing over & over & over & over & over.Cheers.
Quote Pierre, (you too Ed) Lets be clear one last time:
Because the disciples were given power, you say this is the proof that the promised kingdom is now set up on earth?I await.
Devo
Were did I say this
Edited by terraricca on July 28 2012,19:38
we can not go on this way ,when some say things that I never say ,is this right
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2012,12:29) wup Quote Hello Pierre, Not so, i have been working away from home recently & will be doing so more & more in future.
Wakeup & J42 can speak in my place anytime they like, we see & hear the same Word.
We have answered all your questions, it is all there. We have many scriptures to back what we are saying, you have only a few, and even those you use i/we disagree with and see things you do not.
So there is no use going over the same thing over & over & over & over & over.Cheers.
Quote Pierre, (you too Ed) Lets be clear one last time:
Because the disciples were given power, you say this is the proof that the promised kingdom is now set up on earth?I await.
Devo
Were did I say this
Edited by terraricca on July 28 2012,19:38
we can not go on this way ,when some say things that I never say ,is this right
Pierre,Sorry, i checked what you said, and made a mistake. You did not say that.
What you said was that Christs kingdom was set up when Jesus was given power at resurrection.
But you did mention somewhere that the disciples were given power too & that this was another sign of Christs kingdom being set up.
So i wasn't too wrong quoting what i thought you said…just a little.
So let me reword the question.
Let me get this straight, you believe that Christs kingdom was set up in heaven when He was resurrected right?
Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 03 2012,06:24) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2012,12:29) wup Quote Hello Pierre, Not so, i have been working away from home recently & will be doing so more & more in future.
Wakeup & J42 can speak in my place anytime they like, we see & hear the same Word.
We have answered all your questions, it is all there. We have many scriptures to back what we are saying, you have only a few, and even those you use i/we disagree with and see things you do not.
So there is no use going over the same thing over & over & over & over & over.Cheers.
Quote Pierre, (you too Ed) Lets be clear one last time:
Because the disciples were given power, you say this is the proof that the promised kingdom is now set up on earth?I await.
Devo
Were did I say this
Edited by terraricca on July 28 2012,19:38
we can not go on this way ,when some say things that I never say ,is this right
Pierre,Sorry, i checked what you said, and made a mistake. You did not say that.
What you said was that Christs kingdom was set up when Jesus was given power at resurrection.
But you did mention somewhere that the disciples were given power too & that this was another sign of Christs kingdom being set up.
So i wasn't too wrong quoting what i thought you said…just a little.
So let me reword the question.
Let me get this straight, you believe that Christs kingdom was set up in heaven when He was resurrected right?
devoQuote you believe that Christs kingdom was set up in heaven when He was resurrected right?
yes.thats correctQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2012,03:16) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 03 2012,06:24) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2012,12:29) wup Quote Hello Pierre, Not so, i have been working away from home recently & will be doing so more & more in future.
Wakeup & J42 can speak in my place anytime they like, we see & hear the same Word.
We have answered all your questions, it is all there. We have many scriptures to back what we are saying, you have only a few, and even those you use i/we disagree with and see things you do not.
So there is no use going over the same thing over & over & over & over & over.Cheers.
Quote Pierre, (you too Ed) Lets be clear one last time:
Because the disciples were given power, you say this is the proof that the promised kingdom is now set up on earth?I await.
Devo
Were did I say this
Edited by terraricca on July 28 2012,19:38
we can not go on this way ,when some say things that I never say ,is this right
Pierre,Sorry, i checked what you said, and made a mistake. You did not say that.
What you said was that Christs kingdom was set up when Jesus was given power at resurrection.
But you did mention somewhere that the disciples were given power too & that this was another sign of Christs kingdom being set up.
So i wasn't too wrong quoting what i thought you said…just a little.
So let me reword the question.
Let me get this straight, you believe that Christs kingdom was set up in heaven when He was resurrected right?
devoQuote you believe that Christs kingdom was set up in heaven when He was resurrected right?
yes.thats correct
Terra,Answer this:
Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as in heaven.Is it done? Is this it? confusion? In latter days,its getting more evil.
You say that Christ kingdom was set up in heaven since 2000yrs ago. 2000yr rule; and what have we got,utopia? or more and more false religions?Tell me who is he ruling over? who are his people?
You say his church,all the true believers. BUt HIS EARLY 7 CHURCHES ARE CORRUPT,yes or not,is christ ruling from then? 70ad?
Was he ruling a corrupt church?Where was the rod of iron?A kingdom has boundries; where are they? where are the saints our teachers?
And the yearly celebrations; the priests, to perform the worship? Where are they,can you show me?Many are called but a FEW chosen; so his kingdom is just small,its not a great kingdom is it? Small kingdom in heaven indeed.
His kingdom will last for ever?? the way things are going,in another 100yrs people will not believe in God anymore,but in technology and war.
After 2000yrs rule and only a handfull of believers; is that good performance?(not many fruits produced in 2000yrs).
There fore they have to go through great tribulations.what do you think.
wakeup.
wup
Quote Terra, Answer this:
Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as in heaven.Is it done? Is this it? confusion? In latter days,its getting more evil.
You say that Christ kingdom was set up in heaven since 2000yrs ago. 2000yr rule; and what have we got,utopia? or more and more false religions?if we still praying for it looks that it is not here yet right
but the kingdom is in us right ???and if we let our selves be subdued by Gods will completely, just like Moses and Christ and his true disciples then did they not gain the kingdom ,you have to stop thinking that the kingdom of God is similar to a kingdom of men ,
wup
Quote nd what have we got,utopia? or more and more false religions? you make me luff ,you are right ,but is this not what was forecast to become so when all the salt is gone ,what would be left
when all light s are out ,who can see this is when the harvest will end right
yeswup
Quote After 2000yrs rule and only a handfull of believers; is that good performance?(not many fruits produced in 2000yrs).
There fore they have to go through great tribulations.when his that great tribulation
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2012,16:55) wup Quote nd what have we got,utopia? or more and more false religions? you make me luff ,you are right ,but is this not what was forecast to become so when all the salt is gone ,what would be left
when all light s are out ,who can see this is when the harvest will end right
yes
Terra.This is indeed foretold in the prophesies; that things will go worse not better,untill he comes and set things straight.
Thy will be done on EARTH AS IN HEAVEN.
And we know fore sure that heaven is not on earth yet; but its coming. Today earth is like hell.In the meantime we; the true followers have the kingdom in us,ready to be a citizen of the kingdom,and Christ our king.
The spirit of Chrit in us=kingdom in us and will grow.This kingdom will materialise.
———————————————————–The harvest will only come when the corn has grown,and brought forth fruit(1st fruit and 2nd fruit of the tribulation) . And the weed(wickedness) also has grown,ready to be burned.
———————————————————–Today indeed all salt has gone; there is no light in the world(its desolate)like the desert.
But in the kingdom : knowledge wilL COVER THE EARTH AS THE SEA COVER THE EARTH. Because the teachers will be the saints(the resurrected. who will they teach?They will teach all the JEWS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BACK, FROM THE GRAVE(not resurrected) ACCORDING TO CHOICE.
They will live in paradise.(for the flesh it is paradise).They will live in peace and no more tears and no more pain;animals wont bite,the lion will eat straw. They will live 100yrs old and then still die.They will be resurrected in the 2nd resurection. this will happen after the 1000yr time limit is achieved.
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Jesus will not set up his kingdom(The phisical kingdom) ,before this world kingdoms are destroyed.
But evil must come to the top first; then it will be destroyed.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2012,16:58) wup Quote After 2000yrs rule and only a handfull of believers; is that good performance?(not many fruits produced in 2000yrs).
There fore they have to go through great tribulations.when his that great tribulation
Terra.
The great tribulation is coming;and that is when this man of perdition will rule the world with the power of satan,and he will declare war against the Christians that are faithful to Christ.He will force them to take his number or you can not buy food. many will refuse,and they will be killed or put in camps,the young maybe in for slave work.
This is the time for them to make a decision;is it God, or their own lives. If they have chosen God,then they also will be resurerrected in the first resurrection,soon after the first fruits.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 06 2012,06:57) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2012,16:58) wup Quote After 2000yrs rule and only a handfull of believers; is that good performance?(not many fruits produced in 2000yrs).
There fore they have to go through great tribulations.when his that great tribulation
Terra.
The great tribulation is coming;and that is when this man of perdition will rule the world with the power of satan,and he will declare war against the Christians that are faithful to Christ.He will force them to take his number or you can not buy food. many will refuse,and they will be killed or put in camps,the young maybe in for slave work.
This is the time for them to make a decision;is it God, or their own lives. If they have chosen God,then they also will be resurerrected in the first resurrection,soon after the first fruits.
wakeup.
wupI believe that Constantin 1 ,was the man of perdition ,and that he saved the Roman empire of collapsing ,and then unified it by the most blasphemous act of all just as Satan did ,the rejection of the true worship into his own national religion ,and so slander the name of the true God,corrupt Gods written words, and what not ,(read the history of this man from birth to dead )
to my understanding the great tribulation is and was the time of our lives ,because that is what is written in the book of live.
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2012,04:42) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 06 2012,06:57) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2012,16:58) wup Quote After 2000yrs rule and only a handfull of believers; is that good performance?(not many fruits produced in 2000yrs).
There fore they have to go through great tribulations.when his that great tribulation
Terra.
The great tribulation is coming;and that is when this man of perdition will rule the world with the power of satan,and he will declare war against the Christians that are faithful to Christ.He will force them to take his number or you can not buy food. many will refuse,and they will be killed or put in camps,the young maybe in for slave work.
This is the time for them to make a decision;is it God, or their own lives. If they have chosen God,then they also will be resurerrected in the first resurrection,soon after the first fruits.
wakeup.
wupI believe that Constantin 1 ,was the man of perdition ,and that he saved the Roman empire of collapsing ,and then unified it by the most blasphemous act of all just as Satan did ,the rejection of the true worship into his own national religion ,and so slander the name of the true God,corrupt Gods written words, and what not ,(read the history of this man from birth to dead )
to my understanding the great tribulation is and was the time of our lives ,because that is what is written in the book of live.
Terra.KIng constantine does not fit the man of perdition.(he is evil yes).
But first: do you believe that the man of perdition= the false prophet? in the last days?
2. Do you believe that the false prophet will live in the last days before the coming?
3. Can you see that the little horn in Daniel 7.is that false prophet that is coming with the power of satan.(8:24).(rev13:2).
4. Do you believe that the little horn and the dreadful beast will be cast in the fire(dan7:11).
5. do you believe that the false prophet will be cast in the fire at the coming?(rev.19:20).
wakeup.
Wup
Answer to question 1) no
2) there are many false prophets now ,Mormon,Muslim,Jews,Catolics ,to name just a few,3) is not an horn a king ? If so why is he now a prophet .?
4). Yes,all the beasts will be thrown in to destruction even Satan
5) yes I do,Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2012,16:22) Wup Answer to question 1) no
2) there are many false prophets now ,Mormon,Muslim,Jews,Catolics ,to name just a few,3) is not an horn a king ? If so why is he now a prophet .?
4). Yes,all the beasts will be thrown in to destruction even Satan
5) yes I do,
Terra.1. You do not agree that the man of prdition is the false prophet.
Lets Look what 2thess 2.says about this man.
It says that the COMING WILL NOT BE untill this man will
be revealed(shown). Now who is this man?
He is the one that sitteth in the temple of God(Gods seat)
calling himself God,with with great miracles and he is
coming with the power of satan.This man will show himself
before the ciming.(in the last days).2. There are many false prophets yes,I agree,but this man is –THE– FALSE PROPHET, WITH MIRACLES and power.
3. He is pictured in rev13 as the beast with 2 horns coming out of the earth. why 2 horns?
because he is a secular leader and also a spiritual leader.
He is both.He rules the beast; and he also controls the spiritual;telling the world to worship him and his image.4. Not all the beasts will be destroyed, some will be saved ,but their dominion is taken away,(no power).(dan7:12).
IN THE LAST DAYS,BEFORE THE COMING,THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE FALSE GREAT FALSE PROPHET. And he is the little horn with eyes and mouth,the beast that came out of the earth with 2 horns,the man of perdition.(all the same man).
wakeup.
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