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Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,12:57) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,12:23) 2,000 years plus into the future? 
NO… Pentecost!
EdJ.You also have not addressed my question.
Why are people worse today according to 2 Tim.:3.
Spirit or no spirit people are worse in spirit today.
Is Jesus incapable of ruling for 2000 years now:
Do we need a new king?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus' father is our ruler.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Devolution @ July 28 2012,18:29) Pierre, (you too Ed) Lets be clear one last time:
Because the disciples were given power, you say this is the proof that the promised kingdom is now set up on earth?I await.
devowhat I said is that the kingdom of God was setup with the dead of Christ ,because wen Christ came to earth it is like he went to another land and was made a servant ,for the sake to safe his brothers ,but could only save a few during his live on earth ,but he return were his kingdom is ,in heaven ,but the brothers that he saved would help others to be saved ,and so on;
and their is no power in the universe that can stop it of becoming the only kingdom in time .
every other kingdom on earth will be destroyed because they live in the darkness and so will destroy themselves with the corruption in them it will burn them.while on the other hand God kingdom will flourish ,with more and more people fleeing from the other kingdoms people that are willing to take for them the grace of God through his son,
Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,13:15) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,12:57) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,12:23) 2,000 years plus into the future? NO… Pentecost!
EdJ.You also have not addressed my question.
Why are people worse today according to 2 Tim.:3.
Spirit or no spirit people are worse in spirit today.
Is Jesus incapable of ruling for 2000 years now:
Do we need a new king?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus' father is our ruler.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Do we need a new God then?
For this supposed kingdom on earth is in keos.(desolate)
You agree?wakeup.
wakeup
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So my question is; how come; when we suppose to be in the kingdom for 2000years now?who says so
JN 12:32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men(true believers) to Myself.”
MT 24:9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Mt 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.all the above words of Christ are addressed to the 144k that will be redeemed from the earth
Mt 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
if a true disciple of Christ make a new disciple He bring that disciple to God and his son ,because all their deeds are made for the glory of God and his son ,so religion can not do this because they serve themselves first and do not deliver the light .
each one of those verses can turn into a question ;like verse 8; what is having a pure heart
Quote (Ed J @ July 29 2012,04:58) No
EDj.An elected leader only has 3–4 years to perform;if he does not, then he will be replaced.yes/no?
You say Christ has been ruling for 2000years now,and he is not performing.This is what the scriptures says 2Tim 3.
we need an election asap.yes/no?If not; then you must be happy with the world situation today.
you and children must be happy to stay in babylon for ever.
There is no need to fix someting that is not broken yes/no?wakeup.
Hi Wakeuo,
He is ruling in the children of righteousness; did you not know there was a difference?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 29 2012,21:37) Hi Wakeuo, He is ruling in the children of righteousness; did you not know there was a difference?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.When He rules he will sit in his throne,in his kingdom.
He will RULE WITH A ROD OF IRON.Dan.7:9. I beheld untill the thrones (manythrones)were cast down and the ancient of days did SIT.(in his throne).
Dan.7:11. I beheld then because of the GREAT WORDS WHICH THE HORN SPAKE (little horn):
I BEHELD EVEN TILL THE BEAST(10horned beast) was SLAIN, AND THE BODY DESTROYED AND GIVEN TO THE BURNING FLAME(lake of fire).Rev.19:20. — And the beast(10 horned beast) was taken and with him the false prophet (little horn)—–
These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.Its time to open the eyes.
wakeup.
WHERE IS THE PROMISE OF NO TEARS,AND NO PAIN AND SPEARS TURNED INTO PRUNING HOOKS,AND SWORDS INTO PLOWSHARES, AND NO WARS?
wakeup.
wup
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,14:22) wakeup Quote
So my question is; how come; when we suppose to be in the kingdom for 2000years now?who says so
JN 12:32 “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men(true believers) to Myself.”
MT 24:9 “ Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Mt 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.all the above words of Christ are addressed to the 144k that will be redeemed from the earth
Mt 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
if a true disciple of Christ make a new disciple He bring that disciple to God and his son ,because all their deeds are made for the glory of God and his son ,so religion can not do this because they serve themselves first and do not deliver the light .
each one of those verses can turn into a question ;like verse 8; what is having a pure heart
Terra.Indeed christ -WILL- draw men to him,(when) but as of the preaching now 2000years; is only for a witness.
Jesus said that,and he also said–many are CALLED BUT A FEW CHOSEN: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?If only a few are chosen; what about the many? of all generations?
And he also said; come my –LITTLE FLOCK–.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? (not big flock).And God also said in jer.25. The fierce anger of the Lord,because the land is DESOLATE.(like the desert is desolate). DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
The Lord is angree: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?(he is not at all happy).
yes,many will go through tribulation first,caused by the false prophet before the coming.
The pure in heart are the humble non cheating,lying,honest.
not following the crooked way of living,the unlearned,that can not read or write,but live straight,and God fearing,the peasents,countryman.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,01:52) wup Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Terra.Those scripture you have quoted,is after the 1000years is finished,and after the 2nd resurrection,and after gog and magog.
When all evil is no more and after the earth has been melted,and a new earth and heavens made.
When the the earth is like heaven; and God himself will come down,and we will see him face to face.wakeup.
wp
Quote Terra. Indeed christ -WILL- draw men to him,(when) but as of the preaching now 2000years; is only for a witness.
Jesus said that,and he also said–many are CALLED BUT A FEW CHOSEN: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?If only a few are chosen; what about the many? of all generations?
And he also said; come my –LITTLE FLOCK–.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? (not big flock).And God also said in jer.25. The fierce anger of the Lord,because the land is DESOLATE.(like the desert is desolate). DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
The Lord is angree: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?(he is not at all happy).
yes,many will go through tribulation first,caused by the false prophet before the coming.
The pure in heart are the humble non cheating,lying,honest.
not following the crooked way of living,the unlearned,that can not read or write,but live straight,and God fearing,the peasents,countryman.wakeup.
Quote many are CALLED BUT A FEW CHOSEN: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? yes I do
Quote If only a few are chosen; what about the many? of all generations? Rev 19:9 Then the angel said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”
Rev 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
what about the many? of all generations?
Rev 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Rev 20:15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.Quote The pure in heart are the humble non cheating,lying,honest.
not following the crooked way of living,the unlearned,that can not read or write,but live straight,and God fearing,the peasents,countryman.yes that is right exept (the peasents,countryman.)this class as nothing to do in your description ,because a pure heart is requested by all men, disrigarded their accupation and position
Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,05:42) wp Quote Terra. Indeed christ -WILL- draw men to him,(when) but as of the preaching now 2000years; is only for a witness.
Jesus said that,and he also said–many are CALLED BUT A FEW CHOSEN: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?If only a few are chosen; what about the many? of all generations?
And he also said; come my –LITTLE FLOCK–.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? (not big flock).And God also said in jer.25. The fierce anger of the Lord,because the land is DESOLATE.(like the desert is desolate). DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
The Lord is angree: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?(he is not at all happy).
yes,many will go through tribulation first,caused by the false prophet before the coming.
The pure in heart are the humble non cheating,lying,honest.
not following the crooked way of living,the unlearned,that can not read or write,but live straight,and God fearing,the peasents,countryman.wakeup.
Quote many are CALLED BUT A FEW CHOSEN: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? yes I do
Quote If only a few are chosen; what about the many? of all generations? Rev 19:9 Then the angel said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”
Rev 20:4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
what about the many? of all generations?
Rev 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
Rev 20:14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Rev 20:15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.Quote The pure in heart are the humble non cheating,lying,honest.
not following the crooked way of living,the unlearned,that can not read or write,but live straight,and God fearing,the peasents,countryman.yes that is right exept (the peasents,countryman.)this class as nothing to do in your description ,because a pure heart is requested by all men, disrigarded their accupation and position
Terra.I was adressing the first resurrection not the second.
The few will be chosen(first fruits): then the multitude of many generation that has come out of great tribulation.
About the pure in heart; yes,what I meant was the simple innocent people,not contaminated by the luxuries of greedy babylon.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,10:38) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,01:52) wup Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Terra.Those scripture you have quoted,is after the 1000years is finished,and after the 2nd resurrection,and after gog and magog.
When all evil is no more and after the earth has been melted,and a new earth and heavens made.
When the the earth is like heaven; and God himself will come down,and we will see him face to face.wakeup.
wupQuote WHERE IS THE PROMISE OF NO TEARS,AND NO PAIN AND SPEARS TURNED INTO PRUNING HOOKS,AND SWORDS INTO PLOWSHARES, AND NO WARS? wakeup
I just quoted you the scriptures for your answer why do you not believe them
wup
Quote About the pure in heart; yes,what I meant was the simple innocent people,not contaminated by the luxuries of greedy babylon. is this what scriptures are saying
Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,11:44) wup Quote About the pure in heart; yes,what I meant was the simple innocent people,not contaminated by the luxuries of greedy babylon. is this what scriptures are saying
Terra.You asked me a question re' the pure in heart(in scripture).
And that was my answer.
Not in scripture ,but my simple explanation.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,03:34) Can we stay on the subject; before it gets mixed up? wakeup.
wupyou have lost of questions to answer so please do before going ahead.
Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2012,03:18) Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,03:34) Can we stay on the subject; before it gets mixed up? wakeup.
wupyou have lost of questions to answer so please do before going ahead.
Terra.I did my best to explain everything to you:
If am I mising any of your questions, please can you put it down in order; numbering them 1.2.3.etc.
And I will try to answer.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 31 2012,03:29) Quote (terraricca @ July 30 2012,11:44) wup Quote About the pure in heart; yes,what I meant was the simple innocent people,not contaminated by the luxuries of greedy babylon. is this what scriptures are saying
Terra.You asked me a question re' the pure in heart(in scripture).
And that was my answer.
Not in scripture ,but my simple explanation.wakeup.
the question i ask is ; is what you describe as being a person with a pure heart is the description according to scriptures??
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