PROPHECY… For Pierre and Devo

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  • #306257
    terraricca
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    DEVO

    GO BACK AND SEE ALL THE QUOTES YOU HAVE THROWN AT ME ,BUT NEVER REALLY ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ,THIS PRACTICE IS VERY REVELING AS OF THE CHARACTER OF YOU.

    #306312
    terraricca
    Participant

    Devo

    In you interpretation of the scriptures I have notice that you do not try to understand Gods hidden ways but you are just go stray to give your personal interpretation of Gods prophecy s ,so that God become irrelevant to his own written word,this is an abomination ,is this not called false prophet in scriptures ???,

    Their are millions of people in this world that do this ,and so the religions in place take advantage of it by bring in their own story to it ,but none are listen to Gods word ,

    And because I do listen you call me block out from my God and my Lord,or ignorant in scriptures ,ect,

    I do know that it is not me that you are rejecting but the truth of Gods word,this is for you to fix not me .

    #306345
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,06:50)
    Devo

    In you interpretation of the scriptures I have notice that you do not try to understand Gods hidden ways but you are just go stray to give your personal interpretation of Gods prophecy s ,so that God become irrelevant to his own written word,this is an abomination ,is this not called false prophet in scriptures ???,

    Their are millions of people in this world that do this ,and so the religions in place take advantage of it by bring in their own story to it ,but none are listen to Gods word ,

    And because I do listen you call me block out from my God and my Lord,or ignorant in scriptures ,ect,

    I do know that it is not me that you are rejecting but the truth of Gods word,this is for you to fix not me .


    listen to me and listen carefully.

    YOUR BIBLE VERSION IS CORRUPTED.

    LOOK AT THE WORDING WHEN I SHOWED YOU BEFORE.

    I AM IN A ENGLISH SPEAKING NATION, YOUR BIBLE CHANGED VERY IMPORTANT WORDS

    KJV1611 WAS THE FIRST BIBLE SENT OUT INTO ALL THE WORLD

    THIS WAS GODS DOING

    ANY OTHER BIBLE IS NOT THE BIBLE GOD SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD

    EVERY OTHER BIBLE CHANGES WORDS TO “MAKE IT EASIER TO READ”

    THEY DO NOT REALIZE THAT CERTAIN WORDS SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER BE CHANGED, THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT CHANGING WORDS MAKE PROPHECIES CONFLICT

    THE PEOPLE WHO SAY, YES YOU CAN CHANGE THAT WORD ARE UNIVERSITY/CHURCH TRAINED TYPES

    THE WORST TYPES YOU CAN GET TO DO THIS!!

    WHEN WILL YOU SEE THAT AND LET GO OF YOUR WATERED DOWN & CORRUPTED BIBLE VERSION?

    UNTIL YOU DO, YOU WILL NEVER GET THE FULL PICTURE.

    #306347
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2012,16:42)
    devo

    Quote
    Daniel 2:42
      And as the toes of the feet STOP…Again, LOOK…the LEGS were first explained, THEN the FEET were explained, NOW the TOES are being explained. Wake up man, these are THREE different kingdoms!!!!! Why on earth is God SEPARATING these in His describing them? Because they are not the same!!!!

    this is the true explanation of the legs and feet ;

    why would God angel lie to Daniel ??? he did not lie ,but it seems you do not like his explanation .

    now in those scriptures SHOW ME WERE IT TALKS ABOUT A FIFTH KINGDOM ??? IT DOES NOT DO THAT ,THERE IS ONLY FOUR AND THIS EXPLANATION IS FOR THE FOURTH ONE,I ONLY SEE YOU DOING AN EXPLANATION WERE YOU DO NOT NEED ONE AND ABOUT SOME THING THAT IS NOT THERE ,SO STOP CALLING ME NAMES


    Da 2:40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.

    Pierre, that WHOLE verse is NOTHING like the ORIGINAL writings. Your Bible version has been CORRUPTED by men…i ALREADY SHOWED YOU THE DIFFERENCE

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    Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.

    This is changed too, but it is “ok”

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    Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.

    they changed broken to brittle, not quite the same.

    Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

    TOTALLY CHANGED AND IS NOT THE SAME AS THE ORIGINAL AT ALL…THEY HAVE CHANGED THE MEANING ALL TOGETHER.

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    Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

    ALTERED AGAIN. very subtle changes that look innocent but when someone understands Gods lingo and how He uses particular words, these people had no idea what they were messing with. That's university types for ya! Clueless.

    BTW, don't LIE ok. I never called you ignorant. NEVER. So don't lie. YOU insulted me several times before i spoke bluntly. I did not insult you, i spoke what i honestly saw, that you ARE blocked by God. YOU played games from the very start to trick me into this waste of time. You were dishonest in your dealings with me. YOU asked if we could put this on the DEBATE section so only you & i would speak with no distractions….WHY then, are we on the HOT SEAT?????
    I was speaking to you as a friend, and you pretended to listen, but you just wanted to justify yourself.
    THINK I BEEN HARSH? GROW UP AND STOP TWISTING THE TRUTH!!
    I can only stomach so much of people like you.
    And am nearing the end of bothering with these forums.  
    I am having great success with people face to face, these sites all i see are people like you, always wanting to justify themselves, always insulting and then when you get a harsh/blunt reply, you say, “oh, he insulted me”!!!! and then say i used YOUR insult, pitting words into my mouth!!!!!
    That is deceptive.
    That is you.

    #306349
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ July 19 2012,19:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,06:50)
    Devo

    In you interpretation of the scriptures I have notice that you do not try to understand Gods hidden ways but you are just go stray to give your personal interpretation of Gods prophecy s ,so that God become irrelevant to his own written word,this is an abomination ,is this not called false prophet in scriptures ???,

    Their are millions of people in this world that do this ,and so the religions in place take advantage of it by bring in their own story to it ,but none are listen to Gods word ,

    And because I do listen you call me block out from my God and my Lord,or ignorant in scriptures ,ect,

    I do know that it is not me that you are rejecting but the truth of Gods word,this is for you to fix not me .


    listen to me and listen carefully.

    YOUR BIBLE VERSION IS CORRUPTED.

    LOOK AT THE WORDING WHEN I SHOWED YOU BEFORE.

    I AM IN A ENGLISH SPEAKING NATION, YOUR BIBLE CHANGED VERY IMPORTANT WORDS

    KJV1611 WAS THE FIRST BIBLE SENT OUT INTO ALL THE WORLD

    THIS WAS GODS DOING

    ANY OTHER BIBLE IS NOT THE BIBLE GOD SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD

    EVERY OTHER BIBLE CHANGES WORDS TO “MAKE IT EASIER TO READ”

    THEY DO NOT REALIZE THAT CERTAIN WORDS SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER BE CHANGED, THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT CHANGING WORDS MAKE PROPHECIES CONFLICT

    THE PEOPLE WHO SAY, YES YOU CAN CHANGE THAT WORD ARE UNIVERSITY/CHURCH TRAINED TYPES

    THE WORST TYPES YOU CAN GET TO DO THIS!!

    WHEN WILL YOU SEE THAT AND LET GO OF YOUR WATERED DOWN & CORRUPTED BIBLE VERSION?

    UNTIL YOU DO, YOU WILL NEVER GET THE FULL PICTURE.


    devo

    Quote
    I AM IN A ENGLISH SPEAKING NATION, YOUR BIBLE CHANGED VERY IMPORTANT WORDS

    KJV1611 WAS THE FIRST BIBLE SENT OUT INTO ALL THE WORLD

    THIS WAS GODS DOING

    ANY OTHER BIBLE IS NOT THE BIBLE GOD SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD

    is the world you live in is it only the English country's ???

    you also should know that the
    1580 ANTIQUE MARTIN LUTHER HOLY BIBLE GALATIANS 1ST-ED Christian Lutheran Church

    EARLY-ENGLISH PROFOUNDLY SCARCE FIRST ENGLISH EDITION!

    1535, Bible d'Olivétan : première traduction réalisée à partir des textes originaux hébreu et grec .
    this above is a french version of the whole bible from the original texts ,

    ARE YOU TRY TO TELL ME THAT ENGLISH PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE OF GOD ,AND THAT GOD CHOSE THE ENGLISH PEOPLE TO BRING THE TRUTH TO ALL ????

    WHAT ABOUT THIS TRANSLATION???

    The Septuagint: A column of uncial text from 1 Esdras in the Codex Vaticanus c. 325–350 CE, the basis of Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton's Greek edition and English translation.
    The Septuagint ( /ˈsɛptjuːəˌdʒɪnt/), or simply “LXX”, or the “Greek Old Testament”, is a translation into Koine Greek of the Hebrew Bible and some related texts that are not included in the Hebrew Bible canon. It incorporates the oldest of several ancient translations of what are now the Christian Old Testament, Biblical apocrypha and Deuterocanonical books. The LXX is referred to in critical works by the abbreviation [1] or G.

    Septuagint was originally the designation for the Jewish Torah translated into Koine Greek, the lingua franca of the Eastern Mediterranean from the death of Alexander the Great (323 BCE) until the development of Byzantine Greek (c.600 CE). Some early pre-Christian Jewish versions of the Septuagint were held in great respect in ancient times; Philo, the Hellenistic Jewish philosopher, and Josephus, the 1st-century Romano-Jewish historian, ascribed divine inspiration to the Jewish translators.[2][3] But since Late Antiquity, once attributed to a

    #306354
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2012,16:42)
    devo

    Quote
    Daniel 2:42
      And as the toes of the feet STOP…Again, LOOK…the LEGS were first explained, THEN the FEET were explained, NOW the TOES are being explained. Wake up man, these are THREE different kingdoms!!!!! Why on earth is God SEPARATING these in His describing them? Because they are not the same!!!!

    this is the true explanation of the legs and feet ;
    Da 2:40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.
    Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
    Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
    Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
    Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

    why would God angel lie to Daniel ??? he did not lie ,but it seems you do not like his explanation .


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    now in those scriptures SHOW ME WERE IT TALKS ABOUT A FIFTH KINGDOM ??? IT DOES NOT DO THAT ,THERE IS ONLY FOUR AND THIS EXPLANATION IS FOR THE FOURTH ONE,I ONLY SEE YOU DOING AN EXPLANATION WERE YOU DO NOT NEED ONE AND ABOUT SOME THING THAT IS NOT THERE,

    You do know that there are SEVEN kingdoms all together right? And the SEVENTH turns into the EIGHTH right???? Remember The BEAST with seven heads!

    What do you think this statue stands for? Michael Jackson????

    NO, it stands for the WORLDS KINGDOMS until Christ ends mans rule over earth.
    Jesus did NOT end mans rule over the earth when He came, nor when He was resurrected, nor when He was given all authority, But He said that He was going to PREPARE a PLACE for us…the KINGDOM, it is not yet SET UP, but being PREPARED.

    So SINCE it is not yet ended, then we should find the REST of the kingdoms in that STATUE.

    Don't you realize that Rome fell apart into PIECES, don't you realize that those pieces started doing their own things and one of them became GREAT (feet), this is FROM that broken empire, see the LINK? Then will come 10 kings to make another kingdom (toes), more PIECES from that fourth kingdom up to no good, see the CHAIN?
    The FOURTH KINGDOMS “CHILDREN/PIECES” are CONTINUING right up to TODAY!

    BUT you will NEVER see it with your corrupted bible version, WHY haven't you NOTICED the differences in WORDING AFTER 50 YEARS of study????? Can't you see the IMPORTANCE of those CHANGES to Gods written WORD????
    50 YEARS Pierre, and you are still oblivious to just how IMPORTANT those changes are????
    WHAT are you doing in your life for God to allow such blindness????
    REPENET and CHANGE.

    #306360
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,12:58)

    Quote (Devolution @ July 19 2012,19:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,06:50)
    Devo

    In you interpretation of the scriptures I have notice that you do not try to understand Gods hidden ways but you are just go stray to give your personal interpretation of Gods prophecy s ,so that God become irrelevant to his own written word,this is an abomination ,is this not called false prophet in scriptures ???,

    Their are millions of people in this world that do this ,and so the religions in place take advantage of it by bring in their own story to it ,but none are listen to Gods word ,

    And because I do listen you call me block out from my God and my Lord,or ignorant in scriptures ,ect,

    I do know that it is not me that you are rejecting but the truth of Gods word,this is for you to fix not me .


    listen to me and listen carefully.

    YOUR BIBLE VERSION IS CORRUPTED.

    LOOK AT THE WORDING WHEN I SHOWED YOU BEFORE.

    I AM IN A ENGLISH SPEAKING NATION, YOUR BIBLE CHANGED VERY IMPORTANT WORDS

    KJV1611 WAS THE FIRST BIBLE SENT OUT INTO ALL THE WORLD

    THIS WAS GODS DOING

    ANY OTHER BIBLE IS NOT THE BIBLE GOD SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD

    EVERY OTHER BIBLE CHANGES WORDS TO “MAKE IT EASIER TO READ”

    THEY DO NOT REALIZE THAT CERTAIN WORDS SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER BE CHANGED, THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT CHANGING WORDS MAKE PROPHECIES CONFLICT

    THE PEOPLE WHO SAY, YES YOU CAN CHANGE THAT WORD ARE UNIVERSITY/CHURCH TRAINED TYPES

    THE WORST TYPES YOU CAN GET TO DO THIS!!

    WHEN WILL YOU SEE THAT AND LET GO OF YOUR WATERED DOWN & CORRUPTED BIBLE VERSION?

    UNTIL YOU DO, YOU WILL NEVER GET THE FULL PICTURE.


    devo

    Quote
    I AM IN A ENGLISH SPEAKING NATION, YOUR BIBLE CHANGED VERY IMPORTANT WORDS

    KJV1611 WAS THE FIRST BIBLE SENT OUT INTO ALL THE WORLD

    THIS WAS GODS DOING

    ANY OTHER BIBLE IS NOT THE BIBLE GOD SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD

    is the world you live in is it only the English country's ???

    you also should know that the
    1580 ANTIQUE MARTIN LUTHER HOLY BIBLE GALATIANS 1ST-ED Christian Lutheran Church

    EARLY-ENGLISH PROFOUNDLY SCARCE FIRST ENGLISH EDITION!

    1535, Bible d'Olivétan : première traduction réalisée à partir des textes originaux hébreu et grec .
    this above is a french version of the whole bible from the original texts ,

    ARE YOU TRY TO TELL ME THAT ENGLISH PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE OF GOD ,AND THAT GOD CHOSE THE ENGLISH PEOPLE TO BRING THE TRUTH TO ALL ????

    WHAT ABOUT THIS TRANSLATION???

    The Septuagint: A column of uncial text from 1 Esdras in the Codex Vaticanus c. 325–350 CE, the basis of Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton's Greek edition and English translation.
    The Septuagint ( /ˈsɛptjuːəˌdʒɪnt/), or simply “LXX”, or the “Greek Old Testament”, is a translation into Koine Greek of the Hebrew Bible and some related texts that are not included in the Hebrew Bible canon. It incorporates the oldest of several ancient translations of what are now the Christian Old Testament, Biblical apocrypha and Deuterocanonical books. The LXX is referred to in critical works by the abbreviation [1] or G.

    Septuagint was originally the designation for the Jewish Torah translated into Koine Greek, the lingua franca of the Eastern Mediterranean from the death of Alexander the Great (323 BCE) until the development of Byzantine Greek (c.600 CE). Some early pre-Christian Jewish versions of the Septuagint were held in great respect in ancient times; Philo, the Hellenistic Jewish philosopher, and Josephus, the 1st-century Romano-Jewish historian, ascribed divine inspiration to the Jewish translators.[2][3] But since Late Antiquity, once attributed to a


    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???
    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…

    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???
    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…

    NONE OF THESE WENT WORLDWIDE.
    DONT TRY THAT RACIST CARD, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I AM SAYING.
    OPEN YOUR MIND AND LISTEN.
    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK….ONCE!!!!
    FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???

    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be PUBLISHED among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?
    THIS IS WHY IT WAS DONE FROM ENGLAND…EVER HEAR OF THE FIRST PRINTING PRESS?????????
    THIS IS WHY ENGLAND WAS USED.
    NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY THING ELSE BUT THAT PRINTING PRESS.
    YOU DO KNOW WHAT PUBLISHING IS RIGHT????
    THINK ABOUT IT, HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…

    BTW: THE CATHOLIC VEERSION NEVER WENT WORLDWIDE FOR ALL MEN, ONLY THE POPE WAS ALLOWED A BIBL
    E, THE PRIESTS USED EPISTLES FROM THE VATICAN TO PREACH IN LATIN WHICH HARDLY ANYBODY UNDERSTOOD!
    DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

    #306363
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ July 19 2012,20:24)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2012,16:42)
    devo

    Quote
    Daniel 2:42
      And as the toes of the feet STOP…Again, LOOK…the LEGS were first explained, THEN the FEET were explained, NOW the TOES are being explained. Wake up man, these are THREE different kingdoms!!!!! Why on earth is God SEPARATING these in His describing them? Because they are not the same!!!!

    this is the true explanation of the legs and feet ;
    Da 2:40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.
    Da 2:41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay.
    Da 2:42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle.
    Da 2:43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.
    Da 2:44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

    why would God angel lie to Daniel ??? he did not lie ,but it seems you do not like his explanation .


    Quote
    now in those scriptures SHOW ME WERE IT TALKS ABOUT A FIFTH KINGDOM ??? IT DOES NOT DO THAT ,THERE IS ONLY FOUR AND THIS EXPLANATION IS FOR THE FOURTH ONE,I ONLY SEE YOU DOING AN EXPLANATION WERE YOU DO NOT NEED ONE AND ABOUT SOME THING THAT IS NOT THERE,

    You do know that there are SEVEN kingdoms all together right? And the SEVENTH turns into the EIGHTH right???? Remember The BEAST with seven heads!

    What do you think this statue stands for? Michael Jackson????

    NO, it stands for the WORLDS KINGDOMS until Christ ends mans rule over earth.
    Jesus did NOT end mans rule over the earth when He came, nor when He was resurrected, nor when He was given all authority, But He said that He was going to PREPARE a PLACE for us…the KINGDOM, it is not yet SET UP, but being PREPARED.

    So SINCE it is not yet ended, then we should find the REST of the kingdoms in that STATUE.

    Don't you realize that Rome fell apart into PIECES, don't you realize that those pieces started doing their own things and one of them became GREAT (feet), this is FROM that broken empire, see the LINK? Then will come 10 kings to make another kingdom (toes), more PIECES from that fourth kingdom up to no good, see the CHAIN?
    The FOURTH KINGDOMS “CHILDREN/PIECES” are CONTINUING right up to TODAY!

    BUT you will NEVER see it with your corrupted bible version, WHY haven't you NOTICED the differences in WORDING AFTER 50 YEARS of study????? Can't you see the IMPORTANCE of those CHANGES to Gods written WORD????
    50 YEARS Pierre, and you are still oblivious to just how IMPORTANT those changes are????
    WHAT are you doing in your life for God to allow such blindness????
    REPENET and CHANGE.


    devo

    we are talking about Daniel ,hello ,hello are you listening ???

    #306365
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ July 19 2012,20:43)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,12:58)

    Quote (Devolution @ July 19 2012,19:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,06:50)
    Devo

    In you interpretation of the scriptures I have notice that you do not try to understand Gods hidden ways but you are just go stray to give your personal interpretation of Gods prophecy s ,so that God become irrelevant to his own written word,this is an abomination ,is this not called false prophet in scriptures ???,

    Their are millions of people in this world that do this ,and so the religions in place take advantage of it by bring in their own story to it ,but none are listen to Gods word ,

    And because I do listen you call me block out from my God and my Lord,or ignorant in scriptures ,ect,

    I do know that it is not me that you are rejecting but the truth of Gods word,this is for you to fix not me .


    listen to me and listen carefully.

    YOUR BIBLE VERSION IS CORRUPTED.

    LOOK AT THE WORDING WHEN I SHOWED YOU BEFORE.

    I AM IN A ENGLISH SPEAKING NATION, YOUR BIBLE CHANGED VERY IMPORTANT WORDS

    KJV1611 WAS THE FIRST BIBLE SENT OUT INTO ALL THE WORLD

    THIS WAS GODS DOING

    ANY OTHER BIBLE IS NOT THE BIBLE GOD SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD

    EVERY OTHER BIBLE CHANGES WORDS TO “MAKE IT EASIER TO READ”

    THEY DO NOT REALIZE THAT CERTAIN WORDS SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER BE CHANGED, THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT CHANGING WORDS MAKE PROPHECIES CONFLICT

    THE PEOPLE WHO SAY, YES YOU CAN CHANGE THAT WORD ARE UNIVERSITY/CHURCH TRAINED TYPES

    THE WORST TYPES YOU CAN GET TO DO THIS!!

    WHEN WILL YOU SEE THAT AND LET GO OF YOUR WATERED DOWN & CORRUPTED BIBLE VERSION?

    UNTIL YOU DO, YOU WILL NEVER GET THE FULL PICTURE.


    devo

    Quote
    I AM IN A ENGLISH SPEAKING NATION, YOUR BIBLE CHANGED VERY IMPORTANT WORDS

    KJV1611 WAS THE FIRST BIBLE SENT OUT INTO ALL THE WORLD

    THIS WAS GODS DOING

    ANY OTHER BIBLE IS NOT THE BIBLE GOD SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD

    is the world you live in is it only the English country's ???

    you also should know that the
    1580 ANTIQUE MARTIN LUTHER HOLY BIBLE GALATIANS 1ST-ED Christian Lutheran Church

    EARLY-ENGLISH PROFOUNDLY SCARCE FIRST ENGLISH EDITION!

    1535, Bible d'Olivétan : première traduction réalisée à partir des textes originaux hébreu et grec .
    this above is a french version of the whole bible from the original texts ,

    ARE YOU TRY TO TELL ME THAT ENGLISH PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE OF GOD ,AND THAT GOD CHOSE THE ENGLISH PEOPLE TO BRING THE TRUTH TO ALL ????

    WHAT ABOUT THIS TRANSLATION???

    The Septuagint: A column of uncial text from 1 Esdras in the Codex Vaticanus c. 325–350 CE, the basis of Sir Lancelot Charles Lee Brenton's Greek edition and English translation.
    The Septuagint ( /ˈsɛptjuːəˌdʒɪnt/), or simply “LXX”, or the “Greek Old Testament”, is a translation into Koine Greek of the Hebrew Bible and some related texts that are not included in the Hebrew Bible canon. It incorporates the oldest of several ancient translations of what are now the Christian Old Testament, Biblical apocrypha and Deuterocanonical books. The LXX is referred to in critical works by the abbreviation [1] or G.

    Septuagint was originally the designation for the Jewish Torah translated into Koine Greek, the lingua franca of the Eastern Mediterranean from the death of Alexander the Great (323 BCE) until the development of Byzantine Greek (c.600 CE). Some early pre-Christian Jewish versions of the Septuagint were held in great respect in ancient times; Philo, the Hellenistic Jewish philosopher, and Josephus, the 1st-century Romano-Jewish historian, ascribed divine inspiration to the Jewish translators.[2][3] But since Late Antiquity, once attributed to a


    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???
    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…

    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???
    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…

    NONE OF THESE WENT WORLDWIDE.
    DONT TRY THAT RACIST CARD, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I AM SAYING.
    OPEN YOUR MIND AND LISTEN.
    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK….ONCE!!!!
    FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???

    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be PUBLISHED among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?
    THIS IS WHY IT WAS DONE FROM ENGLAND…EVER HEAR OF THE FIRST PRINTING PRESS?????????
    THIS IS WHY ENGLAND WAS USED.
    NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY THING ELSE BUT THAT PRINTING PRESS.
    YOU DO KNOW WHAT PUBLISHING IS RIGHT????
    THINK ABOUT IT, HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…

    BTW: THE CATHOLIC VEERSION NEVER WENT WORLDWIDE FOR ALL MEN, ONLY THE POPE WAS ALLOWED A BIBLE, THE PRIESTS USED EPISTLES FROM THE VATICAN TO PREACH IN LATIN WHICH HARDLY ANYBODY UNDERSTOOD!
    DO YOUR HOMEWORK.


    devo

    i am dutch in origin and french by school and education ,learn and still learning English,

    you mean to say that the world was totally English in 1611 ????

    you must be out of your mind if this is true ,go back in history ,

    #306367
    terraricca
    Participant

    devo

    Quote
    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???
    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…

    Mt 10:22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.
    Mt 13:39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
    Mt 13:40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.
    Mt 13:49 This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous

    Mt 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved

    Mk 13:13 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

    1Co 1:8 He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Mt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

    1Co 15:24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

    1Pe 4:7 The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray.

    Rev 2:26 To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations—

    Heb 3:14 We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.

    2Pe 2:20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.

    Hab 2:3 For the revelation awaits an appointed time;
    it speaks of the end
    and will not prove false.
    Though it linger, wait for it;

    this verse is the only verse that talks about another END than all the other scriptures can you see that ???

    #306369
    terraricca
    Participant

    devo

    Quote
    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???
    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…


    MK 13:10 “ The gospel must first be preached to all the nations.
    Mt 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

    preach (prch)
    v. preached, preach·ing, preach·es
    v.tr.
    1. To proclaim or put forth in a sermon: preached the gospel.
    2. To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with: preached tolerance and peaceful coexistence.
    3. To deliver (a sermon).
    v.intr.
    1. To deliver a sermon.
    2. To give religious or moral instruction, especially in a tedious manner.
    [Middle English prechen, from Old French preechier, from Late Latin praedicre, from Latin, to proclaim : prae-, pre- + dicre, to proclaim; see deik- in Indo-European roots.]

    JN 17:20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;(scriptures ANY )
    JN 17:17 “ Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.(scriptures)

    #306408
    terraricca
    Participant

    devo

    pub·lish
    verb \ˈpə-blish\

    Definition of PUBLISH

    transitive verb

    1

    a: to make generally known b: to make public announcement of

    2

    a: to disseminate to the public b: to produce or release for distribution; specifically: print 2c c: to issue the work of (an author)

    I guess you do not understand scriptures ,or do you ???Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    #306433
    Devolution
    Participant

    Pierre,

    I'm gonna try again.
    First i will start with when Christ kingdom was set up because it is mich easier to prove to you.

    YOU say that Christ's kingdom was set up when He was crucified & ascended.
    Then YOU must address these scriptures:

    Daniel 7:26
       But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

    7:26 says that the 4th kingdom (read verses before this verse) will be consumed and destroyed unto the end.
    *According to you, the statue ended when Christ set up His kingdom when He was resurrected.
    *So, only when the 4th kingdom gets destroyed and consumed, Jesus then sets up His kingdom, which you said happened soon after His resurrection.
    *But the Roman empire did not end when Christ was resurrected, it was not destroyed nor consumed, instead, it flourished & grew even greater for centuries.
    *Please explain.

    Daniel 7:27
       And the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an ever lasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.

    So when the kingdom is set up, God is clear, ALL DOMINIONS shall SERVE and OBEY Him.
    *Dominions are nations. EVERY nation therefore will SERVE and OBEY Him. For a nation to SERVE Him, that nation must be acting in accordance to the NEW TESTAMENT on a NATIONAL LEVEL. And since it is EVERY NATION, then this means that EVERY NATION in the WHOLE WORLD will SERVE and OBEY the ways of Christ laid out in the NEW TESTAMENT of Christ.
    *Why isn't this happening in the world even up to now?
    *Please explain.

    Zechariah 14
    1 >Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee,
    2 >For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken, and the house rifled, and the women ravished, and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.    
    3 >Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle.
    …..SKIP….
    9 >And the Lord shall be King over all the earth, in that day there shall be One Lord, and His Name One.
    …..SKIP….
    16 > And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of Hosts, and to keep the feast of Tabernacles.

    These are events that happen at Christs 2nd coming, it shows clearly that Christ does not rule over the earth until He destroys the nations of the world AT HIS 2ND COMING.
    *IF His kingdom were already set up, then WHY isn't He ruling NOW?
    FOR:

    Daniel 7:27
       And the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an ever lasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.

    *Please explain.

    FOURTH BEAST with its little horn

    Daniel 7:11
       I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake, I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

    You say Christ set up His kingdom already, that the statue ended with Rome, and that all these kings were part of the Roman Empire.

    Daniel 7:12
       As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.

    Beasts are nations. The rest of these nations besides the 4th beast itself, which means every other nation on earth, have their dominions taken away which means that they lose all their power as leaders and independant nations and must henceforth obey Christs laws and way of living (see Daniel 7:27), on a NATIONAL SCALE, laws which are found in the New Testament.
    *WHY hasn't this happened straight after the 4th beast of Nebs statue was destroyed?
    *Why do we have nations that do not even acknowledge Christ even today?
    *Please explain

    Daniel 7:13
       I saw in the night visions, and, behold, One like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him.

    So Christ is brought before His Father

    Daniel 7:14
       And there was given Him dominion, and glory, and a KINGDOM, that ALL PEOPLE, NATIONS, and LANGUAGES, should SERVE HIM, His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

    When Christs kingdom is given (set up), this is WHEN every NATION, every PERSON, every LANGUAGE will SERVE HIM. That is WORLDWIDE rule where EVERY PERSON ACKNOWLEDGES JESUS IS INDEED KING.
    *Zechariah says that this only happens after His 2nd coming (see Zech 14:9 above).
    *Which means that THIS IS WHEN His KINGDOM is SET UP as DECLARED ABOVE.
    *You say this has already happened (set up)
    *Then why do we have so many ungodly nations who do not even recognize Christ let alone OBEY HIM?
    *Please explain.

    Matthew 13:41
       The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall GATHER OUT OF HIS KINGDOM all things that offend, and them which do iniquity.

    HERE is Christs KINGDOM
    *WHY are SINNERS IN IT?
    *WHY is Christ WITH His ANGELS whom He SENDS FORTH?
    *Pleaase explain

    Matthew 13:42
       And shall cast them into a furnace of fire, there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    *What do you think this furnace of fire is?
    *Please explain?

    Matthew 13:43
       THEN shall the RIGHTEOUS SHINE FORTH as the SUN IN THE KINGDOM of their FATHER. Who hath ears to hear, let Him hear.        

    Who's KINGDOM?

    Matthew 13:41
       The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of HIS KINGDOM all things that offend, and them which do iniquity.

    WHO'S KINGDOM?

    1 Corinthians 15
    23 >But every man in his own order, Christ the firstfruits, afterward they that are Christs AT HIS COMING.

    24 >Then cometh the end, when HE SHALL HAVE DELIVERED UP THE KINGDOM TO GOD, even the FATHER, WHEN He shall have PUT DOWN ALL RULE and ALL AUTHORITY and POWER.  

    So it is really the FATHERS KINGDOM!!!!

    25 >For He must REIGN, TILL He hath put all enemies under His feet.

    26 > The LAST ENEMY that shall be destroyed is DEATH

    28 >And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the SON ALSO HIMSELF SHALL BE SUBJECT UNTO HIM THAT PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIM, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL  

    So Christs KINGDOM is REALLY the FATHERS KINGDOM/POSSESSION,
    and is IN JERUSALEM, which is WORLDLY, where SURVIVORS of the NATIONS who DID NOT SERVE HIM, MUST NOW SERVE HIM….who are HEATHENS..ALL of WHO LOSE THEIR POWER AS RULERS IN THIS WORLD to OBEY CHRIST, which all TAKES PLACE AFTER THE 2nd COMING WHEN the KINGDOM is SET UP of which YOU SAY is ALREADY SET UP, making YOU as ONE who is going AGAINST GODS WRITTEN WORD.

    Matthew 13:43
       THEN shall the Rrighteous shine forth as the SUN IN THE KINGDOM of their FATHER. Who hath ears to hear, let Him hear.

    Daniel 7:27
       And the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an ever lasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.

    Matthew 25:31
       WHEN the Son of Man shall COME in His glory, and all the HOLY ANGELS WITH HIM, THEN shall He SIT UPON THE THRONE OF HIS GLORY

    …SKIP…

    Matthew 25:34
       THEN shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

    There is even more to this than you would understand. But it is still the SAME KINGDOM. The SAME KINGDOM that was CLEANED OUT of SINNERS at Christs 2ND COMING, the SAME KINGDOM that was SET UP AT HIS 2ND COMING, the SAME KINGDOM that HE RULES OVER for the 1000 years after His 2ND COMING, The SAME KINGDOM that is CHRISTS which really BELONGS to His FATHER which He hands back to His Father after the 1000 years which is AFTER THE 2ND COMING, ETC ETC ETC…..The SAME KINGDOM of which YOU SAID i was a FALSE TEACHER for declaring, the SAME KINGDOM you can not yet UNDERSTAND. The SAME KINGDOM i just revealed to you.

    AND I HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED ISAIAH, EZEKIEL, JEREMIAH, HOSEA, JOEL, AMOS, MICAH, NAHUM, HABAKKUK, ZEPHANIAH, HAGGAI….IT IS ALL THERE, BUT ONLY THOSE WITH EYES TO SEE CAN SEE THEM….

    #306434
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,14:24)
    devo

    Quote
    WORLDWIDE PIERRE….WORLDWIDE….WORLDWIDE….
    GODS WRITTEN WORD WENT WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY.
    DO YOU THINK SATAN DID THIS???
    OR DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS:

    Mark 13:10
    And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    WHAT? PUBLISHED WITH A THOUSAND CONTRADICTIONS FROM A THOUSAND DIFFERENT BIBLES??
    OR, PUBLISHED WORLDWIDE IN ONE BOOK WITH ONE WORD SAYING THE SAME THING?

    THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COMPREHEND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THIS IS…


    MK 13:10 “ The gospel must first be preached to all the nations.
    Mt 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

    preach  (prch)
    v. preached, preach·ing, preach·es
    v.tr.
    1. To proclaim or put forth in a sermon: preached the gospel.
    2. To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with: preached tolerance and peaceful coexistence.
    3. To deliver (a sermon).
    v.intr.
    1. To deliver a sermon.
    2. To give religious or moral instruction, especially in a tedious manner.
    [Middle English prechen, from Old French preechier, from Late Latin praedicre, from Latin, to proclaim : prae-, pre- + dicre, to proclaim; see deik- in Indo-European roots.]

    JN 17:20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;(scriptures ANY )
    JN 17:17 “ Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.(scriptures)


    And WHERE are those WORDS found that THOSE DISCIPLES were PREACHING found today?

    THE BIBLE

    Or do YOU have a time machine and can go back in time to HEAR THOSE WORDS being PREACHED huh?

    And do you think that PREACHING that is RECORDED in the BIBLE found in ALL the MANY MANY bibles which have CHANGED the WORDS and MEANINGS and CONTRADICT EACHOTHER, do YOU think this is Gods DOING??????

    Or wouldn't you think that the FIRST TRANSLATION that WENT OUT into THE WORLD into EVERY NATION which would accept it for THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, with THOSE VERY PREACHINGS RECORDED IN IT, wouldn't you THINK that was something being FULFILLED?????

    And WHAT happens NEXT????

    ALL these OTHER VERSIONS start APPEARING with ALTERED WORDS……HELLOOOOOOOO!!!

    2 Corinthians 11
    13 > For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ,
    14 > And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light,
    15 > Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also, be transformed into as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.

    WHO is CALLING FOR and PERMITTING NEW TRANSLATIONS ALL THE TIME?
    NEW TRANSLATIONS that CONFLICT with the ORIGINAL?

    The CHURCHES.
    The MAINSTREAM CHURCHES.
    Where the FALSE APOSTLES ARE.
    AND you have fallen for ALL their FALSE TRANSLATIONS hook line and sinker. And just like most “Christians”, see nothing wrong with it!!!!!!!!!!!!
    BREATHTAKING to say the LEAST.
    And like them, you are looking at this with your worldy eyes and can not even see the DECEPTION taking place right under your noses, LOOK with your spiritual eyes instead, and THROW AWAY your CANKERED BIBLE TRANSLATIONS.

    #306440
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote
    Hab 2:3 For the revelation awaits an appointed time;
    it speaks of the end
    and will not prove false.
    Though it linger, wait for it;

    this verse is the only verse that talks about another END than all the other scriptures can you see that ???

    I'm cutting in sorry

    Habakkuk 2:3    For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it: because it will surely come, it will not tarry.

    THE VISION IS YET FOR AN APPOINTED TIME
    BUT AT THE END IT SHALL SPEAK

    Your version gave you a whole different interpretation.

    #306454
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ July 20 2012,18:42)
    Pierre,

    I'm gonna try again.
    First i will start with when Christ kingdom was set up because it is mich easier to prove to you.

    YOU say that Christ's kingdom was set up when He was crucified & ascended.
    Then YOU must address these scriptures:

    Daniel 7:26
       But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

    7:26 says that the 4th kingdom (read verses before this verse) will be consumed and destroyed unto the end.
    *According to you, the statue ended when Christ set up His kingdom when He was resurrected.
    *So, only when the 4th kingdom gets destroyed and consumed, Jesus then sets up His kingdom, which you said happened soon after His resurrection.
    *But the Roman empire did not end when Christ was resurrected, it was not destroyed nor consumed, instead, it flourished & grew even greater for centuries.
    *Please explain.

    Daniel 7:27
       And the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an ever lasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.

    So when the kingdom is set up, God is clear, ALL DOMINIONS shall SERVE and OBEY Him.
    *Dominions are nations. EVERY nation therefore will SERVE and OBEY Him. For a nation to SERVE Him, that nation must be acting in accordance to the NEW TESTAMENT on a NATIONAL LEVEL. And since it is EVERY NATION, then this means that EVERY NATION in the WHOLE WORLD will SERVE and OBEY the ways of Christ laid out in the NEW TESTAMENT of Christ.
    *Why isn't this happening in the world even up to now?
    *Please explain.

    Zechariah 14
    1 >Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee,
    2 >For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken, and the house rifled, and the women ravished, and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.    
    3 >Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when He fought in the day of battle.
    …..SKIP….
    9 >And the Lord shall be King over all the earth, in that day there shall be One Lord, and His Name One.
    …..SKIP….
    16 > And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of Hosts, and to keep the feast of Tabernacles.

    These are events that happen at Christs 2nd coming, it shows clearly that Christ does not rule over the earth until He destroys the nations of the world AT HIS 2ND COMING.
    *IF His kingdom were already set up, then WHY isn't He ruling NOW?
    FOR:

    Daniel 7:27
       And the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an ever lasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.

    *Please explain.

    FOURTH BEAST with its little horn

    Daniel 7:11
       I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake, I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

    You say Christ set up His kingdom already, that the statue ended with Rome, and that all these kings were part of the Roman Empire.

    Daniel 7:12
       As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.

    Beasts are nations. The rest of these nations besides the 4th beast itself, which means every other nation on earth, have their dominions taken away which means that they lose all their power as leaders and independant nations and must henceforth obey Christs laws and way of living (see Daniel 7:27), on a NATIONAL SCALE, laws which are found in the New Testament.
    *WHY hasn't this happened straight after the 4th beast of Nebs statue was destroyed?
    *Why do we have nations that do not even acknowledge Christ even today?
    *Please explain

    Daniel 7:13
       I saw in the night visions, and, behold, One like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him.

    So Christ is brought before His Father

    Daniel 7:14
       And there was given Him dominion, and glory, and a KINGDOM, that ALL PEOPLE, NATIONS, and LANGUAGES, should SERVE HIM, His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

    When Christs kingdom is given (set up), this is WHEN every NATION, every PERSON, every LANGUAGE will SERVE HIM. That is WORLDWIDE rule where EVERY PERSON ACKNOWLEDGES JESUS IS INDEED KING.
    *Zechariah says that this only happens after His 2nd coming (see Zech 14:9 above).
    *Which means that THIS IS WHEN His KINGDOM is SET UP as DECLARED ABOVE.
    *You say this has already happened (set up)
    *Then why do we have so many ungodly nations who do not even recognize Christ let alone OBEY HIM?
    *Please explain.

    Matthew 13:41
       The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall GATHER OUT OF HIS KINGDOM all things that offend, and them which do iniquity.

    HERE is Christs KINGDOM
    *WHY are SINNERS IN IT?
    *WHY is Christ WITH His ANGELS whom He SENDS FORTH?
    *Pleaase explain

    Matthew 13:42
       And shall cast them into a furnace of fire, there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    *What do you think this furnace of fire is?
    *Please explain?

    Matthew 13:43
       THEN shall the RIGHTEOUS SHINE FORTH as the SUN IN THE KINGDOM of their FATHER. Who hath ears to hear, let Him hear.        

    Who's KINGDOM?

    Matthew 13:41
       The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of HIS KINGDOM all things that offend, and them which do iniquity.

    WHO'S KINGDOM?

    1 Corinthians 15
    23 >But every man in his own order, Christ the firstfruits, afterward they that are Christs AT HIS COMING.

    24 >Then cometh the end, when HE SHALL HAVE DELIVERED UP THE KINGDOM TO GOD, even the FATHER, WHEN He shall have PUT DOWN ALL RULE and ALL AUTHORITY and POWER.  

    So it is really the FATHERS KINGDOM!!!!

    25 >For He must REIGN, TILL He hath put all enemies under His feet.

    26 > The LAST ENEMY that shall be destroyed is DEATH

    28 >And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the SON ALSO HIMSELF SHALL BE SUBJECT UNTO HIM THAT PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIM, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL  

    So Christs KINGDOM is REALLY the FATHERS KINGDOM/POSSESSION, and is IN JERUSALEM, which is WORLDLY, where SURVIVORS of the NATIONS who DID NOT SERVE HIM, MUST NOW SERVE HIM….who are HEATHENS..ALL of WHO LOSE THEIR POWER AS RULERS IN THIS WORLD to OBEY CHRIST, which all TAKES PLACE AFTER THE 2nd COMING WHEN the KINGDOM is SET UP of which YOU SAY is ALREADY SET UP, making YOU as ONE who is going AGAINST GODS WRITTEN WORD.

    Matthew 13:43
       THEN shall the Rrighteous shine forth as the SUN IN THE KINGDOM of their FATHER. Who hath ears to hear, let Him hear.

    Daniel 7:27
       And the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High, whose kingdom is an ever lasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.

    Matthew 25:31
       WHEN the Son of Man shall COME in His glory, and all the HOLY ANGELS WITH HIM, THEN shall He SIT UPON THE THRONE OF HIS GLORY

    …SKIP…

    Matthew 25:34
       THEN shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

    There is even more to this than you would understand. But it is still the SAME KINGDOM. The SAME KINGDOM that was CLEANED OUT of SINNERS at Christs 2ND COMING, the SAME KINGDOM that was SET UP AT HIS 2ND COMING, the SAME KINGDOM that HE RULES OVER for the 1000 years after His 2ND COMING, The SAME KINGDOM that is CHRISTS which really BELONGS to His FATHER which He hands back to His Father after the 1000 years which is AFTER THE 2ND COMING, ETC ETC ETC…..The SAME KINGDOM of which YOU SAID i was a FALSE TEACHER for declaring, the SAME KINGDOM you can not yet UNDERSTAND. The SAME KINGDOM i just revealed to you.

    AND I HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED ISAIAH, EZEKIEL, JEREMIAH, HOSEA, JOEL, AMOS, MICAH, NAHUM, HABAKKUK, ZEPHANIAH, HAGGAI….IT IS ALL THERE, BUT ONLY THOSE WITH EYES TO SEE CAN SEE THEM….


    Good one devo,I can not find fualt.
    Heaven is not yet on earth as most claim to be.(2000yrs now).
    The wine of false doctrine is strong,and they are drunken with it,dont know left from right.

    First the destruction of the world system; then the setting up of the new kingdom;and not vice versa.

    The old building must be demolished first before the new building will be build,this is common sense.

    Good work.

    wakeup.

    #306470
    terraricca
    Participant

    devo

    Daniel 7:26
    But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

    I have explain to you that the judgement is the judgement of the POWER (ruling the world);not of men ,that it is given to Gods king ,Jesus Christ and his saints

    #306476
    terraricca
    Participant

    devo

    in witch way would this scripture be wrong in what I have shown in Daniel 2;40-45 ???

    Da 7:14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

    it is about DOMINION (POWER) that is taken away from all the kings at the time of the FOURTH KING .

    #306477
    terraricca
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    devo

    Zec 14:1 A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided among you.
    Zec 14:2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
    Zec 14:3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.

    Lk 23:27 A large number of people followed him, including women who mourned and wailed for him.
    Lk 23:28 Jesus turned and said to them, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children.
    Lk 23:29 For the time will come when you will say, ‘Blessed are the barren women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!’
    Lk 23:30 Then
    “ ‘they will say to the mountains, “Fall on us!”
    and to the hills, “Cover us!” ’
    Lk 23:31 For if men do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?”

    the allusion of Christ to the green tree ;mean when he was free and start to gather his pen of sheep, the allusion to dry tree;means when the day comes that their is no longer any one worth for the kingdom in Jerusalem, then Jerusalem would be destroyed (70 AD)

    #306478
    terraricca
    Participant

    devo

    1 Corinthians 15
    23 >But every man in his own order, Christ the firstfruits, afterward they that are Christs AT HIS COMING.

    1Co 15:23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
    1Co 15:24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

    so who is the FIRST FRUITS ??? 144K THEN THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM AND THEN THE END WILL COME

    Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
    Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.

    so now the end is come ;;

    Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
    Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
    Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.

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