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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2008,01:35) Irene….It could be, but it could also be referring to the end of the millennium period. Niclk…..Heb 9:26…> it is appointed for man once to die and after that the Judgment.
Hi GB,
Of what is a man aware after death till the resurrection?Psalm 146:4
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.If called in the first he will awake into the millenium and the tribunal of Christ.
If in the second he awakes to the sheep and goat judgement
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2008,09:27) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2008,01:35) Irene….It could be, but it could also be referring to the end of the millennium period. Niclk…..Heb 9:26…> it is appointed for man once to die and after that the Judgment.
Hi GB,
Of what is a man aware after death till the resurrection?Psalm 146:4
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.If called in the first he will awake into the millenium and the tribunal of Christ.
If in the second he awakes to the sheep and goat judgement
Either way, man knows nothing but life.
While he is dead, no matter how long, man knows nothing.Tim
Quote (TimothyVI @ July 03 2008,22:57) Either way, man knows nothing but life.
Tim,For some reason the old Blood Sweat & Tears tune popped into my head while reading your post.
“Swear there ain't no heaven and I pray there ain't no hell,
But I'll never know by living, only my dying will tell.
Yes only my dying will tell. Yeah, only my dying will tell.
And when I die, and when I'm gone, There'll be one child born
In this world to carry on, to carry on.”As far as universalism, there is no proof one way or another. I would tend to think that when the stakes are eternity for supposedly loved sentient creations that have a spirtual aspect to their existences beyond the corporeal, divine perfection would not accept any less then a 100% success rate. Note this does not imply this comes quickly or at a standard rate or time only that ultimately even the slow and stubborn will align with divine will and intent.
Cato…….Amen, and scriptures do support that view. But the interesting thing to me is even though there are many scriptures that support that view why does Christianity over all supports the view that God will cast his creation into a literal lake of Fire and burn them up for all eternity. I have ask myself what mind set would cause this outlook, and where how did it arise , and i believe it's comes with the ideology of the so-called (FREE WILL) mind set. it genders the idea that it all up to you and caused people to trust in themselves to the exclusion of a creator God, it puts the burden on the person rather a true faith on God, for there salvation.
Gene,
I do however view it is within the purview of the individual to hasten their spiritual evolution or slow it down. We are swimmers in God's current, we can move about within the limits of our skills fighting the current thus slowing the inevitable or swim with it hastening the end. It is not IMO, that we have no will of our own it is merely that it ours seem non-existent compared to the Divine. A flashlight seems nothing in the sun's light, but it still sheds light nonetheless.Hi brothers Gene and Cato,
These are some unspoken truths about humanity and their relationship with the creator.
Thanks to both of you
AdamQuote (Gene Balthrop @ July 04 2008,03:14) Cato…….Amen, and scriptures do support that view. But the interesting thing to me is even though there are many scriptures that support that view why does Christianity over all supports the view that God will cast his creation into a literal lake of Fire and burn them up for all eternity. I have ask myself what mind set would cause this outlook, and where how did it arise , and i believe it's comes with the ideology of the so-called (FREE WILL) mind set. it genders the idea that it all up to you and caused people to trust in themselves to the exclusion of a creator God, it puts the burden on the person rather a true faith on God, for there salvation.
Hi GB,
Should we judge God and His motives?
Or should we assume anything based on human logic.Better to sit quietly and humbly and learn from what is written.
Job 21:22
Shall any teach God knowledge? seeing he judgeth those that are high.Ncik…. There is not one word or implication of what i said the would suggest i am Judging God or His motives. and where did i suggest i am teaching God anything, you are simple a false accuser and you follow the one who does those things. I think you should be quite and maybe you can learn something Nick, instead of casting dispersions on people that don't agree with you own religious theologys , it's rude to jump in when two people are dialogging on something , and quite telling others what they ought to do and do it yourself and leave the rest of us alone. I have been learning of 45 years and am still learning and hope i never quite learning. You only cause disruptions and stop dialog by you stupid impute.
I personally ask you not to commit on any thing i am talking to others about, it rude and shows a lack of manners.
Hi GB,
ALL THREADS ARE OPEN TO ALL CONTRIBUTIONS AT ALL TIMES.Universally open.
But universalism is not of the truth.
“but the biggest problem is lack of rules of engagement, like staying on specific subject matter some who can't challenge the posted support given they simply change subject matter,and never acknowledge it as true, so how can any progress be made with that person, most will at least stay on subject or Just not respond at all.”
Keep it in mind please.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 04 2008,13:45) Hi GB,
ALL THREADS ARE OPEN TO ALL CONTRIBUTIONS AT ALL TIMES.Universally open.
But universalism is not of the truth.
“but the biggest problem is lack of rules of engagement, like staying on specific subject matter some who can't challenge the posted support given they simply change subject matter,and never acknowledge it as true, so how can any progress be made with that person, most will at least stay on subject or Just not respond at all.”
Keep it in mind please.
Nick.
You are the worst offender!Blessings.
Hi brothers Gene and Jerry, let us leave this personal attacks and concentrate on subject though some times I also felt very much painful to digest such attacks.
Peace to you
AdamHi Adam.
Sorry, I do get carried away at times. Sometimes I regret after I've posted, guess I'm just human, not yet perfected by God. Love your correction. God Bless.Jerry.
Hi brother Nick,
You should also encourage brothers as moderator to share more and please don't give irritation which causes friction among brothers.
Blessings
Adam
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