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T8….Not saying the verse is wrong, it how your taken it thats wrong. No one is arguing that JESUS WAS “BORN”, TO BE THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD. Read this
Mat 1:23….and she “SHALL” bring forth a son, and you “SHALL” call his name Jesus: for he “SHALL” save his people from their sins.
All (future tense expressions). Where does it say when he was born he saved anyone. It say he “SHALL” save his people from their sin,
T8, you have no idea how your looking at Jesus the way you do clouds your perceptions of him, well your certainly not alone brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Nick,
I believe that this day in the town of David a Savior was born. That day he was the Messiah, the Lord.
You believe it not. Thus, you do not believe that scripture which is a declaration from a heavenly messenger.
Reality is not going to change Nick because you want so much for it not to be true.
Reality vs Nick? reality wins.
lol. Nick, are you really trying to convince people that “Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord”, spirtually speaking really means, “NOT THIS DAY in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is NOT the Messiah, the Lord”.
I mean come on. No one is going to believe the spiritual meaning is the opposite of the clear and straight forward meaning. Taking this rule, you might as well say that “The fool says in his heart, “There is no God” really means: The fool says in his heart, “There is A God”.
And the rule once applied would also mean that Satan is God and Yahweh isn’t.
No one is going to buy your opposite rule theory are they.
Back to the drawing board Nick.
T8….you don’t believe he was ‘born’ YOU BELIEVE HE WAS “MORPHED” INTO A BODY. YOU really do not believe he came from the loins of king David, as he said he did. You are preaching a different Jesus, then scripture shows, you belifes are nore on the lines of a alien comming to earth taking the form of a human being. But really a alien of somekind, which by the way you have never told us with he actually is, have you?
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi T8,
Yes the Saviour was born.
Why are you surprised?
Even Herod understood such things.Trying to hide the fact that you do not believe he was born the messiah.
Hi T8,
Those who cannot hear the Spirit in him think Jesus was speaking of himself.
Such is the foundation of the false church.
Come out of her.
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
Do you hear the truth? He was born the messiah, the Lord, and the saviour.
Amen if you hear this.
I believe scripture not the other way round.
I do not believe that scripture agrees with me, rather that it is my mission to agree with scripture. If my view is in conflict with scripture, then it is me that needs to change, not scripture.
Can you say the same about yourself?
Hi T8,
Yes. I believe scripture.
In the knowledge that it is God speaking.
And I have learned that taking the Spiritual words literally can lead to error.
Nick…..Yes taken some scriptures literally they can, much of the bible is written in metaphoric language. From Genises to revelations.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
T8….OK then, please tell us who was saved when JESUS WAS BORN, that shouldn’t be hard for you seening you believe he was already the savoir at birth?
Hi Gene, (Luke 2:30)
“mine eyes have seen thy salvation” – Simeon
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