Preexistence

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  • #831907
    NickHassan
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    Hi T8,

    It s a shame that you cannot learn from scripture.

    #831921
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It’s a shame that you cannot understand a clear scripture. He was born the Christ that day. It is written. Your view doesn’t matter.

    #831922
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    So God anointed him on the day of his birth?

    Is that what you are saying?

    #831936
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    So God anointed him on the day of his birth?

    Is that what you are saying?

    Hi Nick, (ref to Luke 2:47-50)

    What anointing was Jesus speaking by when
    Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #831938
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Then  after 3 days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers.

    Did you assume he must have already been anointed to do this?

    His Father was with him and he had fed on the Word.

    But at the Jordan the Spirit filled him.

    Baptised in the Spirit.

    #831939
    Ed J
    Participant

    (ref to Luke 2:47-50)
    What anointing was Jesus speaking by when
    Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?

    His Father was with him and he had fed on the Word.

    Hi Nick,

    Is your answer: the anointing was “the Spirit of Christ” ? Or
    are you saying something else? Your words are not very clear ???

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #831958
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of anointing.

    His real Father was with him(Acts 10) and guiding his footsteps from without.

    #831962
    AndrewAD
    Participant

    What anointing was Jesus speaking by when
    Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?

    Good point Ed, Jesus must have been a little presumptuous when he said ” I must be about my Father’s business” since he hadn’t been baptized yet.

    #832012
    Ed J
    Participant

    Thank you Andrew

    #832013
    Ed J
    Participant

    (ref to Luke 2:47-50)
    What anointing was Jesus speaking by when
    Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?

    Hi Ed,

    The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of anointing.

    His real Father was with him(Acts 10) and guiding his footsteps from without.

    Hi Nick,

    the anointing Jesus speaking by was “the Spirit of Christ”

    Yes or No ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #832031
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    When Jesus taught the teachers in the temple he was a 12yo child and not yet anointed in the Spirit.

    The Spirit taught Peter too before he had been anointed as Mt 16 shows.

    God is close to all men as Acts 17 tells us.

    #832062
    Ed J
    Participant

    (ref to Luke 2:47-50)
    What anointing was Jesus speaking by when
    Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?

    Hi Nick,

    So your answer is none (by no anointing)?

    #832063
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    the anointing Jesus speaking by was “the Spirit of Christ”

    Yes or No ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    Nick’s answer: No?

    #832068
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    The Spirit is one.

    In the one Spirit is the Father and the Son.

    The Spirit of the Son is the servant Spirit, the Word.

     

    Most of the time the Spirit of the Son speaks but on occasion the other Counsellor, the Spirit of truth from the Father, speaks as in Jn 2 , speaking of the rebuilding of the temple.

     

    #832072
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Yes.

     

    #832073
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    It would be presumptuous to assume that because Jesus was knowledgible about scripture he must have been anointed.

    He was anointed at the Jordan and we do not get into presumption.

    #832080
    Ed J
    Participant

    (ref to Luke 2:47-50)
    What anointing was Jesus speaking by when
    Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?

    Hi Nick,

    the anointing Jesus speaking by was “the Spirit of Christ”

    Yes or No ?

    Hi Ed,

    Yes.

    Hi Nick,

    Then how do you account Jesus speaking by the spirit of Christ,
    when he had not (according to you) been baptized with it yet?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #832086
    Anthony
    Participant

    Hi everyone   one scripture you can believe it or deny it.

    Jesus said, “And now, Father, glorify me in your presence withthe glory I had with you before the world began” (John 17:5). This passage alone is sufficient to show that the Scripture supports Jesus’ pre-existence God bless Anthony

    #832087
    Anthony
    Participant

    Hi everyone

    Jesus Himself explicitly taught His own pre-existence (John 3:13; 6:33, 38, 62; 8:23; 16:28).

    13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [a]who is in heaven.

    33 For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

    38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

    23 And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.

    28 I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father.”  God bless Anthony

    #832091
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Anthony. …No, Jesus never said he preexisted his berth on this earth,

    The glory he had was a reserved glory prophesied that he would have, just as we are.

    “What is man that thou art mindfull of him, thou has made him a “little” lower then the angels, but (HAS) crowned him with “GLORY’ and “HONOUR “, and has but “ALL” THING UNDER HIS FEET., in that he says “ALL THINGS” are under his feet there is “NOTHING” that is not under his (mankinds) FEET.” Heb.

    Thats the same glory that was prophesied and more for JESUS, HE “NOW” has it , we “will” have it also. All of that was prepard for us and Jesus before the foundations of the earth , it was God’s plan all along to give that glory and honor. To Jesus and us also.

    He was that bread sent from heaven because he was the one who GOD (who is in heaven) raised up from a tribe of ISREAL, JUST AS Moses prophecied, he would come from the LOINS of king David, according to GOD and scripture, even in revelations, JESUS SAID he was the root and OFFSPRING of KING DAVID.

    Anthony your problem is you are only concidering scriptures that can be twisted, espically when you don’t even take into concideration all the hundreds of other scripture that shows you, they way you are applying those few scripture you using, as wrong.

    And Jesus never said he was “alive” before Abraham, you people add the word alive into the text. Haven’t you ever wondred why it not there, do you not think if that is what Jesus was talking about he would have “clearly” said that. Why is it that you trinitarian proof can be taken in different ways. And you people have to use them with the exclusions of other texts that deny you conclusions?

    Forcing the text to say what it in fact is not directly or actually saying is bad form Anthony.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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