Preexistence

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  • #817128
    GeneBalthrop
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    T8……Remove the log out of your own eye, before you start removing splinters in others,would be agood startfor you,imo.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #817141
    Proclaimer
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    I address people’s questions and refute false doctrine carefully. Before you say ‘remove the log’ try reading my posts and you will see that I do not cover my head in the sand. Accusations are easy to make. But what I said about you is true, you just repeat the same old stuff well after myself and others have refuted your teachings. And you do not bother to respond to those refutations. Your debating skills and evidence are poor. I think it is better to be honest about that. Your lack of a decent  challenge says volumes.

    #817155
    GeneBalthrop
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    T8…..SHOW ONE CORRECTION I HAVE NOT ACKNOWLEDGED, And even if i say the same things over an over, that does not mean i am wrong now does it, it could be that the truth doesn’t change for a lie as you and some may want. anyway show me one place where i have not addressed the questions presented to me, i would really like to see that. Because i don’t agree with an answer doesn’t mean i fail to accept the truth, the answer could be wrong in my opinion.

    YOU seem to be implying the only way to spiritually grow is to except yours and others false teachings, which i fine to be pure hog wash. Who are you to judge another man servant, he will stand of fall unto his own master. You and no one here is my master that is for sure, i have a master i will let him judge me, not you or anyone else here.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #817164
    Proclaimer
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    And even if i say the same things over an over, that does not mean i am wrong now does it

    Anyone can repeat false doctrine over and over again. It doesn’t make it right either.

    But repeating the same thing when you have been refuted is a form of insanity.

    e.g., You say that Jesus was not born the messiah.

    But scripture records a message given by an angel of God that says this:
    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    But then you foolishly repeat that he was not born the messiah even when the evidence of scripture is presented.

    You do this a lot, and I learned a long time ago to not take you seriously.

    The above clear example of denial of reality while being a different topic is repeated many times regarding this topic too.

    #820074
    NickHassan
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    Hi T8,

    Prophetically the Christ was born in Bethlehem.

    Only Jesus fitted the bill.

     

    But he was not preexistent but a man conceived in Mary and anointed for service at the Jordan.

    #820129
    Proclaimer
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    Scripture says:

    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    I believe this and when I quote it, you attack it and become agitated.

    I do not need to address this verse because I accept it.

    #820132
    Proclaimer
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    Jesus said:
    I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do. 5And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed.

    #820133
    NickHassan
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    Hi T8,

    Yes.

    Prophecy

    2 Peter1

    So we have the prophetic Word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention, as to a lamp shing in a dark place, until the day dawns and The Morning Star arises in your hearts.

    May that day come soon.

    #820509
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Please explain how much you think men contribute to the work of God.

    Was Jesus led by the Spirit or did he do the work alone with just get an occasional inspiration?

    Jesus said: “yet not my will, but yours be done”. It’s about surrendering your will to God’s will. Jesus set that example for us.

    #820555
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Yes.

    Being led by the Spirit.

    For all who are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

    Just like Jesus Christ.

     

    Do you see and hear the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ?

     

    acts 10.38

    You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how he went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.

    #820570
    Proclaimer
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    Do you see and hear the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ

    Nick, I think I do. Do you see and hear the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ?

    #820571
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    T8….Jesus was an ordinary man saved by GOD the Father. BY not seening that only shows your deception. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene


    @genebalthrop

    Good news Gene. He was without sin. Jesus came to save sinners. He didn’t save himself.

    God saved him from death because he died for sinners. He took our burden upon himself.

    #820638
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Yes.

    #820641
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Yes he was made clean by obedience to the Law.

    He knew the Law by the age of 12 and fed his soul with the spiritual ways of God shown therein.

     

    The anointing at the Jordan made him the man from heaven.

    #820642
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Natural men, seeing the powers of God, assume the men using the powers are gods.

    This problem is shown many times in scripture.

     

    Surely you understand these reactions are of foolishness and ignorance?

     

    #820643
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    It is because you do not discern the voice of the Spirit in the words of Jesus Christ that you get confused.

    He was as helpless as any man without the powers of God at work in him.

    Too much analysing and not enough listening.

    #820644
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    The powers and speech of Jesus Christ were of God.

    Do not rob God of the glory.

    #820676
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Nick you said ‘yes’. While it may or may not be true, at least you answered in a clear way.

    So you can do it. This is a good start. You can also do it in our debate. It would take but a few seconds, then we can move on.

    #820677
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The anointing at the Jordan made him the man from heaven.

    Think about it Nick. If the first man was of the dust of the earth; and the second man is of heaven, then why do you assume that Jesus is from the earth?

    The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

    He was born holy Nick. If you say no, then you say he was unholy.

    #820678
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It is because you do not discern the voice of the Spirit in the words of Jesus Christ that you get confused.

    Not so. It is because I read the scripture and believe it the way it is written. You add words and expect me to believe you additions and editions. But I prefer the source. More reliable it is.

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