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(1)So essentially you agree with Nick who also believe he receives the Spirit of God at the Jordon river.
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(2)So Jesus was not part of the unity of the Spirit prior to the time he received the Spirit of God?
Hi Kerwin,
1) Yes
2) You jump to just as ridiculous conclusions as Nick.
No, Jesus was born “the spirit of Christ” (ref. Micah 5:2),
so naturally the Son of the Holy Spirit has unity with God.__________________
God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
Your unique understandings find no echoes in scripture.
Just one misunderstood verse is a shaky foundation.
They make Jesus not a man but some sort of chameleon.
Scripture says he was a man and one alike to us.
Ed,
You jump to just as ridiculous conclusions as Nick.
No, Jesus was born “the spirit of Christ” (ref. Micah 5:2),
so naturally the Son of the Holy Spirit has unity with God.Not so ridiculous as you have told me the one Spirit in Ephesians 4:1-6 is the Spirit of God.
Ephesians 4:1-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
4 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2 with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3 endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Have you changed your mind?
If you have then what Spirit is the one Spirit?
else
I fail to see how Jesus could be in unity before he was given the Spirit of God.
Can and will you explain it?Hi KW,
Your ideas that he was anointed previous to his anointing are only your doctrinal justifications.
Find it written first.
Kerwin…..I agree with Nick on this brother, JESUS did not have the anointing Spirit untill it actually took place when he was around thirity years old, untill then he was simply an ordinary human being, created as such, another Adam concieved and brought forth as a human being like Adam was, THE ONLY DIFFERENCES IS GOD THE FATHER USED ALREADY EXISTING FLESH TO Produce him as a human being, which ties him to us exactly, while ADAM and EVE WERE THE START OF FLESH and BLOOD, GOD did not want to make JESUS DIFFERENT THEN EXISTING FLESH, he used a existing flesh human women who contained the original HUMAN DNA and simply added the MALE DNA TO HER. JESUS was a flesh and blood human being, exactly like we all are. He remained that way untill he was ANOINTED by the SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD, At which time he became a SPRITUAL SON OF GOD. He was not born A CHRISTO’S, HE BECAME ONE. The only difference between JESUS AND US is GOD himself suppliedhismale DNA, making him the son of GOD brought forth from humanity, but then again GOD CREATED ALL HUMANITY from the very start, he wanted JESUS TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY AS DESCRIBED IN ISAIAH, so it required him to maipulate his exact DNA,to conformto s ripture describing how he would look.
GOD THE FATHER manipulating DNA in a human being is no big deal for him, seeing he created it all anyway. We all must come to see Our brother AND lord JESUS, the “anointed” one, of GOD THE FATHER, “EXACTLY” AS WE ARE. I think you probably already know this, at lest i hope you do. I believe NICK does.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi ED,
You think that God was NOT the physical father of Jesus by conception
but Jesus was a spirit that BECAME an embryo?
Should you deny what is written?
Hi Kerwin you asked me “Is the first instance of Jesus receiving the Spirit the one that brought him into unity with God or the second instance?”
I don’t know. Sorry.
God Bless you!
Danny
Hi Ed,
Your unique understandings find no echoes in scripture.
Just one misunderstood verse is a shaky foundation.
They make Jesus not a man but some sort of chameleon.
Scripture says he was a man and one alike to us.
That is because he came in the flesh. You see, Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
He existed in the form of God and emptied himself and came in the flesh. Now he is back with the Father, in the glory he had with him before the cosmos. This is what scripture tells us, but many are those who reject it.
Hi Ed,
Jesus was named after his birth
And declared to be the messiah, son of God, and Lord.
But you deny that record about him.
I agree with Mikeboll64. He wrote a lot of things to refute what others wrote about Jesus not being God and not pre-existing before He was born. Baloney, Jesus was God in the beginning, was with the Father, both being God. Jesus was God during His earthly life, and continued being God after His resurrection.
Amen, Mike.
@Mikeboll64 didn’t believe that Jesus was God. He believed that the Father was the one true God and Jesus was his only begotten son. He believed that Jesus existed as the Word that was with God in the beginning. He believed that Jesus prior to coming the flesh was the first to be with God and had first place in all things. That he was the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.Hi T8,
No we deny nothing.
Men of intellect can only see a pre-existent being.
But it is the Spirit that came in the flesh of Jesus transforming a mere man into the Word.
Hi t8,
There are no flesh men in heaven and there never was.
The Word was made flesh [in Jesus of Nazareth] and dwelt among us.
Hi t8,
2Cor5
16″.Therefore from now on we recognise no man according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know him thus no longer.”
Do you realise that this means all references to Jesus Christ refer to the Spirit of Christ?
Flesh contributes nothing.
Ed,
You jump to just as ridiculous conclusions as Nick.
No, Jesus was born “the spirit of Christ” (ref. Micah 5:2),
so naturally the Son of the Holy Spirit has unity with God.Not so ridiculous as you have told me the one Spirit in Ephesians 4:1-6 is the Spirit of God.
Hi Kerwin,
Correct – the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ’s Father:
……..one Spirit – One God and Father of all (Eph 4:4-6)
“Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,
and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in
subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)________________
God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
No, Jesus was born “the spirit of Christ” (ref. Micah 5:2),
micah 5.2
But you, Bethlehem Ephratah, though you be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall he come forth to me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Not the same, sorry
I fail to see how Jesus could be in unity before he was given the Spirit of God.
Can and will you explain it?Hi Kerwin,
Is a human son in unity with his human father without having his human father’s spirit? y/n
(Remember “I don’t know” is also an acceptable answer)___________
God bless
Ed JHi ED,
(1)You think that God was NOT the physical father of Jesus by conception
(2)but Jesus was a spirit that BECAME an embryo?
Should you deny what is written?Hi Nick,
1) No, that’s what you think – God WAS the father of Jesus by conception.
2) Yes, “the Spirit of Christ” from the Father put into a Human embryo.___________
God bless
Ed JThat is because he came in the flesh. You see, Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
He existed in the form of God and emptied himself and came in the flesh. Now he is back with the Father, in the glory he had with him before the cosmos. This is what scripture tells us, but many are those who reject it.
Hi T8,
We don’t know for sure that’s what happened, but
believe it by faith; why? Because that’s what Scripture teaches.
We see Scripture clearly teaching that, while others see through a glass darkly._______________
God bless
Ed JHi T8,
No we deny nothing.
That is not a true statement Nick.
You said:
Yes he became the Christ, the Son of the Living God, at the Jordan
https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/matthew-1347-50/page/13/#post-807768Luke said:
But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
See that. A clear cut case of denial as to the record of Jesus birth. You not only deny Luke’s gospel account, but the words of that angel, as well as the one whom he spoke for.
However, two negatives make a positive. You said: “No we deny nothing.”.
Yes that is right. You deny something. But it is that something that is concerning. It is the written record of the birth of the one and only Lord Jesus Christ who was born the savior and messiah.
You also deny that he existed in the form of God, emptied himself, and came in the flesh.
Jesus Christ came in the flesh, but there is a spirit that opposes this truth.
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