Preexistence

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:28)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,07:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:30) w Quote 1. I SAID THAT GOD BROUGHT FORTH HIS WORD AND GAVE HIM A FORM AS HIS IMAGE. YOU ARE TWISTING MY WORDS. so tell me WHO OR WHAT IS THE” WORD “ IN JOHN 1;1 T. You need to figure that out for yourself I'm afraid. I thought you knew? He is just a prophet? Is it not, or have you forgotten what you said a minute ago? Terra;you are so confused in  your mind, something is not right with you old boy. have a good rest. wakeup.           T. That is not an aswer. That is a sign of frustration. wakeup. W               HO,HO, I AM BEND IN TWO

T.

What else can one do when trapped in a corner,
by own words spoken?
Some do stupid things,like laughing because of helplesness.
What can one do when the foundation of the house is sinking?
The whole structure is falling apart.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:04)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,07:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:30) w Quote 1. I SAID THAT GOD BROUGHT FORTH HIS WORD AND GAVE HIM A FORM AS HIS IMAGE. YOU ARE TWISTING MY WORDS. so tell me WHO OR WHAT IS THE” WORD “ IN JOHN 1;1 T. You need to figure that out for yourself I'm afraid. I thought you knew? He is just a prophet? Is it not, or have you forgotten what you said a minute ago? Terra;you are so confused in  your mind, something is not right with you old boy. have a good rest. wakeup.           T. That is not an aswer. That is a sign of frustration. wakeup. W               HO,HO, I AM BEND IN TWO T. What else can one do when trapped in a corner, by own words spoken? Some do stupid things,like laughing because of helplesness. What can one do when the foundation of the house is sinking? The whole structure is falling apart. wakeup.

W

ANSWER MY QUESTION THAT YOU AVOID SO EASILY

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,06:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,07:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:30) w Quote 1. I SAID THAT GOD BROUGHT FORTH HIS WORD AND GAVE HIM A FORM AS HIS IMAGE. YOU ARE TWISTING MY WORDS. so tell me WHO OR WHAT IS THE” WORD “ IN JOHN 1;1 T. You need to figure that out for yourself I'm afraid. I thought you knew? He is just a prophet? Is it not, or have you forgotten what you said a minute ago? Terra;you are so confused in  your mind, something is not right with you old boy. have a good rest. wakeup.           T. That is not an aswer. That is a sign of frustration. wakeup. W               HO,HO, I AM BEND IN TWO T. What else can one do when trapped in a corner, by own words spoken? Some do stupid things,like laughing because of helplesness. What can one do when the foundation of the house is sinking? The whole structure is falling apart. wakeup. W ANSWER MY QUESTION THAT YOU AVOID SO EASILY

T.

I can explain to you untill I am blue in the face,
and you still can not understand.
This has been proven many times,and still can not
perceive. It's a hopeless situation in your part.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,03:27)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,06:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,07:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:30) w Quote 1. I SAID THAT GOD BROUGHT FORTH HIS WORD AND GAVE HIM A FORM AS HIS IMAGE. YOU ARE TWISTING MY WORDS. so tell me WHO OR WHAT IS THE” WORD “ IN JOHN 1;1 T. You need to figure that out for yourself I'm afraid. I thought you knew? He is just a prophet? Is it not, or have you forgotten what you said a minute ago? Terra;you are so confused in  your mind, something is not right with you old boy. have a good rest. wakeup.           T. That is not an aswer. That is a sign of frustration. wakeup. W               HO,HO, I AM BEND IN TWO T. What else can one do when trapped in a corner, by own words spoken? Some do stupid things,like laughing because of helplesness. What can one do when the foundation of the house is sinking? The whole structure is falling apart. wakeup. W ANSWER MY QUESTION THAT YOU AVOID SO EASILY T. I can explain to you untill I am blue in the face, and you still can not understand. This has been proven many times,and still can not perceive. It's a hopeless situation in your part. wakeup.

W

SO WE ARE DONE ON THAT SUBJECT

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,10:19)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,03:27) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,06:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,07:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:49) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:46) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:30) w Quote 1. I SAID THAT GOD BROUGHT FORTH HIS WORD AND GAVE HIM A FORM AS HIS IMAGE. YOU ARE TWISTING MY WORDS. so tell me WHO OR WHAT IS THE” WORD “ IN JOHN 1;1 T. You need to figure that out for yourself I'm afraid. I thought you knew? He is just a prophet? Is it not, or have you forgotten what you said a minute ago? Terra;you are so confused in  your mind, something is not right with you old boy. have a good rest. wakeup.           T. That is not an aswer. That is a sign of frustration. wakeup. W               HO,HO, I AM BEND IN TWO T. What else can one do when trapped in a corner, by own words spoken? Some do stupid things,like laughing because of helplesness. What can one do when the foundation of the house is sinking? The whole structure is falling apart. wakeup. W ANSWER MY QUESTION THAT YOU AVOID SO EASILY T. I can explain to you untill I am blue in the face, and you still can not understand. This has been proven many times,and still can not perceive. It's a hopeless situation in your part. wakeup. W SO WE ARE DONE ON THAT SUBJECT

T.

When you have grown up spiritually,
perhaps you can take the solid food.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

W

VISE VERSA

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:00)

W VISE VERSA

T.

Oh good;so you have something to teach me.
Please do,for I like to learn more and more.
feed me with some solid food.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,19:17)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:00) W VISE VERSA T. Oh good;so you have something to teach me. Please do,for I like to learn more and more. feed me with some solid food. wakeup.

YOU ONLY EAT YOUR OWN MADE FOOD

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,19:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:00) W VISE VERSA T. Oh good;so you have something to teach me. Please do,for I like to learn more and more. feed me with some solid food. wakeup. YOU ONLY EAT YOUR OWN MADE FOOD

T.

Let me see some of your food.
Is it labelled as: BABY FOOD ONLY.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,22:50)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,19:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:00) W VISE VERSA T. Oh good;so you have something to teach me. Please do,for I like to learn more and more. feed me with some solid food. wakeup. YOU ONLY EAT YOUR OWN MADE FOOD T. Let me see some of your food. Is it labelled as:  BABY FOOD ONLY. wakeup.

W

WHY WOULD UNSPOKEN OR SPOKEN WORDS BECOME A BEING

WHERE IN SCRIPTURES WOULD ANYONE GO TO FIND A SIMILAR ACTION

BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT GOD NEVER CHANGE PLEASE QUOTE ME THOSE SCRIPTURES

THAT WOULD GOOD FOOD FOR ME ;

IN THE MEAN TIME READ THIS ;
Ro 2:17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew(CHRISTIAN); if you rely on the law(SCRIPTURES) and brag about your relationship to God;
Ro 2:18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law(SCRIPTURES);
Ro 2:19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark,
Ro 2:20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law(SCRIPTURES) the embodiment of knowledge and truth—
Ro 2:21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing(STEALING FROM GOD), do you steal?
Ro 2:22 You who say that people should not commit adultery(TOWARD GOD), do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples(THE SOUL OF BELIEVERS)?

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,05:22)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,22:50) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,19:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:00) W VISE VERSA T. Oh good;so you have something to teach me. Please do,for I like to learn more and more. feed me with some solid food. wakeup. YOU ONLY EAT YOUR OWN MADE FOOD T. Let me see some of your food. Is it labelled as:  BABY FOOD ONLY. wakeup. W WHY WOULD UNSPOKEN OR SPOKEN WORDS BECOME A BEING WHERE IN SCRIPTURES WOULD ANYONE GO TO FIND A SIMILAR ACTION BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT GOD NEVER CHANGE PLEASE QUOTE ME THOSE SCRIPTURES THAT WOULD GOOD FOOD FOR ME ; IN THE MEAN TIME READ THIS ; Ro 2:17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew(CHRISTIAN); if you rely on the law(SCRIPTURES) and brag about your relationship to God; Ro 2:18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law(SCRIPTURES); Ro 2:19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, Ro 2:20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law(SCRIPTURES) the embodiment of knowledge and truth— Ro 2:21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing(STEALING FROM GOD), do you steal? Ro 2:22 You who say that people should not commit adultery(TOWARD GOD), do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples(THE SOUL OF BELIEVERS)?

T.

1.Scripture is clear: And the WORD was MADE flesh.
2.God brought forth wisdom in the beginning of creation.
3.God brought forth his Word,with wisdom in Him to create
wonderful things,complicated things,that can not be
explained by science.
4.Yes, God never change,there is no reason to change.
5.The law is not all the scriptures,but part of the scriptures.
its calld the ten commmandments.
6.If one teach others,he also teach himself.Practise
makes perfect.
7.There is a difference between adultery and idolatry.
8. Taking things that dont belong to you is stealing.
9.If you teach;dont commit adultery;do you commit adultery?
10.If you hate idols,do you worship idols?

Nothing about robbing the temples.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,06:05)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,05:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,22:50) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,19:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:00) W VISE VERSA T. Oh good;so you have something to teach me. Please do,for I like to learn more and more. feed me with some solid food. wakeup. YOU ONLY EAT YOUR OWN MADE FOOD T. Let me see some of your food. Is it labelled as:  BABY FOOD ONLY. wakeup. W WHY WOULD UNSPOKEN OR SPOKEN WORDS BECOME A BEING WHERE IN SCRIPTURES WOULD ANYONE GO TO FIND A SIMILAR ACTION BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT GOD NEVER CHANGE PLEASE QUOTE ME THOSE SCRIPTURES THAT WOULD GOOD FOOD FOR ME ; IN THE MEAN TIME READ THIS ; Ro 2:17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew(CHRISTIAN); if you rely on the law(SCRIPTURES) and brag about your relationship to God; Ro 2:18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law(SCRIPTURES); Ro 2:19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, Ro 2:20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law(SCRIPTURES) the embodiment of knowledge and truth— Ro 2:21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing(STEALING FROM GOD), do you steal? Ro 2:22 You who say that people should not commit adultery(TOWARD GOD), do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples(THE SOUL OF BELIEVERS)? T. 1.Scripture is clear: And the WORD was MADE flesh. 2.God brought forth wisdom in the beginning of creation. 3.God brought forth his Word,with wisdom in Him to create   wonderful things,complicated things,that can not be   explained by science. 4.Yes, God never change,there is no reason to change. 5.The law is not all the scriptures,but part of the scriptures.    its calld the ten commmandments. 6.If one teach others,he also teach himself.Practise   makes perfect. 7.There is a difference between adultery and idolatry. 8. Taking things that dont belong to you is stealing. 9.If you teach;dont commit adultery;do you commit adultery? 10.If you hate idols,do you worship idols? Nothing about robbing the temples. wakeup.

w

answer my questions

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,11:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,06:05) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,05:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,22:50) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,19:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:00) W VISE VERSA T. Oh good;so you have something to teach me. Please do,for I like to learn more and more. feed me with some solid food. wakeup. YOU ONLY EAT YOUR OWN MADE FOOD T. Let me see some of your food. Is it labelled as:  BABY FOOD ONLY. wakeup. W WHY WOULD UNSPOKEN OR SPOKEN WORDS BECOME A BEING WHERE IN SCRIPTURES WOULD ANYONE GO TO FIND A SIMILAR ACTION BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT GOD NEVER CHANGE PLEASE QUOTE ME THOSE SCRIPTURES THAT WOULD GOOD FOOD FOR ME ; IN THE MEAN TIME READ THIS ; Ro 2:17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew(CHRISTIAN); if you rely on the law(SCRIPTURES) and brag about your relationship to God; Ro 2:18 if you know his will and approve of what is superior because you are instructed by the law(SCRIPTURES); Ro 2:19 if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark, Ro 2:20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law(SCRIPTURES) the embodiment of knowledge and truth— Ro 2:21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing(STEALING FROM GOD), do you steal? Ro 2:22 You who say that people should not commit adultery(TOWARD GOD), do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples(THE SOUL OF BELIEVERS)? T. 1.Scripture is clear: And the WORD was MADE flesh. 2.God brought forth wisdom in the beginning of creation. 3.God brought forth his Word,with wisdom in Him to create   wonderful things,complicated things,that can not be   explained by science. 4.Yes, God never change,there is no reason to change. 5.The law is not all the scriptures,but part of the scriptures.    its calld the ten commmandments. 6.If one teach others,he also teach himself.Practise   makes perfect. 7.There is a difference between adultery and idolatry. 8. Taking things that dont belong to you is stealing. 9.If you teach;dont commit adultery;do you commit adultery? 10.If you hate idols,do you worship idols? Nothing about robbing the temples. wakeup. w answer my questions

T.

Why dont you see and read my answer.
Is it too hard to understand?

wakeup

[terraricca]

w

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T. Why dont you see and read my answer. Is it too hard to understand? wakeup

you obviously have a problem read and understanding scriptures

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,13:24)

w Quote T. Why dont you see and read my answer. Is it too hard to understand? wakeup you obviously have a problem read and understanding scriptures

T.

It was too hard to understand.
I can not put it any more simple than that.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,13:41)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,13:24) w Quote T. Why dont you see and read my answer. Is it too hard to understand? wakeup you obviously have a problem read and understanding scriptures T. It was too hard to understand. I can not put it any more simple than that. wakeup.

[Nicole M.]

This message is given with love. I want to first address that God blessed Mary with Jesus in the book of Luke which chronologically speaking comes before the book of John in which Jesus is explaining why he was sent to earth. Therefore Jesus did come through the whom of Mary before this speaking. Secondly, Jesus is the human form of the son of God; so yes when the bible reads that His son was with God in the creation of the earth they are speaking before his human form. To address your quotations of what Jesus is saying in Philippians, again chronologically speaking Philippians comes after his birth which is in the book of John. All that is being said in the chapter follows his life span properly. I want to make sure you understand these things because you stated that the bible contradicts itself. In none of these verses has the bible has contradicted itself, for these events all take place in chronological order. You should also make sure that the scriptures in which you are putting in red are actually in red in the bible. The only reason in replying to this is because I want you to make sure that you are spreading gods word accurately. There was a lot more to address but these were the gongs that felt most important. I also want you to know that there is only one son of God who is Jesus. You should read John 3:16 which will support the previous statement.

[Admin]

Who are you talking too? If you are addressing the writing above, it in no way states that the Bible contradicts itself. You may need to re-read it. 🙂

[Anastas]

I enjoyed reading this article and I like how many of the scriptures I would typically use in defending this position, you have also used. Its very reassuring. I would think that this article is directed, somewhat, at our biblical unitarian brothers who have seen the truth that the trinity is clearly false, yet go so far as to say that our Lord was merely a great man and did not preexist as his own entity before his birth. I have wondered how they came to this conclusion with so much scripture speaking against it. Its just another example of the deceptive nature of Satan and how a man can make scripture say what he wants it to when he has an end goal in mind. Trinitarians would fall into this category as well.

[Admin]

Well put.

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