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can anyone today claim to be one of the redeemed of the earth ,and be full of the holy spirit ,without walking as Christ did
The breath of life is not the Holy spirit
for all men has the breath of life;good men and bad.
And the animals.
The Holy spirit is IN the words spoken.
The spirit of truth. The apostles received the Holy spirit
at pentecost.(not at birth).
Understanding came to them at pentecost.wakeup.
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Quote Understanding came to them at pentecost. that is not what scriptures says right
Jn 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will GUIDE you into all truth.
Jn 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will REMIND you of everything I have said to you.
UNDERSTANDING IS SOMETHING THAT COMES AS YOU MOVE CLOSER INTO GOD TRUTH, AND HELP YOU WHEN NEEDED
I was growing to like the “pantecost” version.
Wakeup, I agree that the “breath of life” is NOT the Holy Spirit. And I agree for the same sensible and logical reasons you put forth in your post.
I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life.
Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 08 2013,03:31) I was growing to like the “pantecost” version. Wakeup, I agree that the “breath of life” is NOT the Holy Spirit. And I agree for the same sensible and logical reasons you put forth in your post.
Good one Mike thanks.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,23:14) w Quote Understanding came to them at pentecost. that is not what scriptures says right
Jn 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will GUIDE you into all truth.
Jn 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will REMIND you of everything I have said to you.
UNDERSTANDING IS SOMETHING THAT COMES AS YOU MOVE CLOSER INTO GOD TRUTH, AND HELP YOU WHEN NEEDED
T.The video said that the breath of life is the breath of God,
and is the Holy spirit.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 08 2013,15:01) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2013,23:14) w Quote Understanding came to them at pentecost. that is not what scriptures says right
Jn 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will GUIDE you into all truth.
Jn 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will REMIND you of everything I have said to you.
UNDERSTANDING IS SOMETHING THAT COMES AS YOU MOVE CLOSER INTO GOD TRUTH, AND HELP YOU WHEN NEEDED
T.The video said that the breath of life is the breath of God,
and is the Holy spirit.wakeup.
WAll external flesh is not Christ ,and so should not be threaded as such
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,18:46) I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life. Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
T8.1.Breath of life is in all living: animals included.
2.The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when He,
***the Spirit of truth***, is come, ***He will guide you into
all truth***:
for *He* shall not speak of *Himself*; but whatsoever
*He* shall hear, that shall *He* speak: and *He* will
shew you things to come.3.The spirit of truth is *IN* the Word itself
What comes out of the mouth of God is truth.
4.The soul is the essence of the person's life.
the person's life time works/deeds/caracter.
5. Born again is when one is born of the spirit at the
resurrection;he will be spirit.(not at babtism).
6.The bad will be judged according to their deeds.
Judged by the books.(rev20:12).wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,19:58) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,18:46) I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life. Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
T8.1.Breath of life is in all living: animals included.
2.The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when He,
***the Spirit of truth***, is come, ***He will guide you into
all truth***:
for *He* shall not speak of *Himself*; but whatsoever
*He* shall hear, that shall *He* speak: and *He* will
shew you things to come.3.The spirit of truth is *IN* the Word itself
What comes out of the mouth of God is truth.
4.The soul is the essence of the person's life.
the person's life time works/deeds/caracter.
5. Born again is when one is born of the spirit at the
resurrection;he will be spirit.(not at babtism).
6.The bad will be judged according to their deeds.
Judged by the books.(rev20:12).wakeup.
WSo when did the spirit of truth came to them to show them the things to come ,???
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,19:58) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,18:46) I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life. Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
T8.1.Breath of life is in all living: animals included.
2.The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when He,
***the Spirit of truth***, is come, ***He will guide you into
all truth***:
for *He* shall not speak of *Himself*; but whatsoever
*He* shall hear, that shall *He* speak: and *He* will
shew you things to come.3.The spirit of truth is *IN* the Word itself
What comes out of the mouth of God is truth.
4.The soul is the essence of the person's life.
the person's life time works/deeds/caracter.
5. Born again is when one is born of the spirit at the
resurrection;he will be spirit.(not at babtism).
6.The bad will be judged according to their deeds.
Judged by the books.(rev20:12).wakeup.
WSo when did the spirit of truth came to them to show them the things to come ,???
T.Jesus speaking to the apostles.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.This is for us also. When we can understand scripture
is because the spirit of truth has revealed it to us.
Not because of our own wisdom.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:16) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,19:58) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,18:46) I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life. Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
T8.1.Breath of life is in all living: animals included.
2.The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when He,
***the Spirit of truth***, is come, ***He will guide you into
all truth***:
for *He* shall not speak of *Himself*; but whatsoever
*He* shall hear, that shall *He* speak: and *He* will
shew you things to come.3.The spirit of truth is *IN* the Word itself
What comes out of the mouth of God is truth.
4.The soul is the essence of the person's life.
the person's life time works/deeds/caracter.
5. Born again is when one is born of the spirit at the
resurrection;he will be spirit.(not at babtism).
6.The bad will be judged according to their deeds.
Judged by the books.(rev20:12).wakeup.
WSo when did the spirit of truth came to them to show them the things to come ,???
T.Jesus speaking to the apostles.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.This is for us also. When we can understand scripture
is because the spirit of truth has revealed it to us.
Not because of our own wisdom.wakeup.
WQuote This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.HOW COULD THEY UNDERSTAND THE THINGS “TO COME “
WHAT YOU QUOTING ME ARE THINGS THEY DID RIGHT THEN AND THERE ,
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:16) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,19:58) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,18:46) I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life. Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
T8.1.Breath of life is in all living: animals included.
2.The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when He,
***the Spirit of truth***, is come, ***He will guide you into
all truth***:
for *He* shall not speak of *Himself*; but whatsoever
*He* shall hear, that shall *He* speak: and *He* will
shew you things to come.3.The spirit of truth is *IN* the Word itself
What comes out of the mouth of God is truth.
4.The soul is the essence of the person's life.
the person's life time works/deeds/caracter.
5. Born again is when one is born of the spirit at the
resurrection;he will be spirit.(not at babtism).
6.The bad will be judged according to their deeds.
Judged by the books.(rev20:12).wakeup.
WSo when did the spirit of truth came to them to show them the things to come ,???
T.Jesus speaking to the apostles.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.This is for us also. When we can understand scripture
is because the spirit of truth has revealed it to us.
Not because of our own wisdom.wakeup.
WQuote This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.HOW COULD THEY UNDERSTAND THE THINGS “TO COME “
WHAT YOU QUOTING ME ARE THINGS THEY DID RIGHT THEN AND THERE ,
T.By understanding the prophesies
one can know things to come.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,11:17) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:16) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,19:58) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,18:46) I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life. Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
T8.1.Breath of life is in all living: animals included.
2.The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when He,
***the Spirit of truth***, is come, ***He will guide you into
all truth***:
for *He* shall not speak of *Himself*; but whatsoever
*He* shall hear, that shall *He* speak: and *He* will
shew you things to come.3.The spirit of truth is *IN* the Word itself
What comes out of the mouth of God is truth.
4.The soul is the essence of the person's life.
the person's life time works/deeds/caracter.
5. Born again is when one is born of the spirit at the
resurrection;he will be spirit.(not at babtism).
6.The bad will be judged according to their deeds.
Judged by the books.(rev20:12).wakeup.
WSo when did the spirit of truth came to them to show them the things to come ,???
T.Jesus speaking to the apostles.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.This is for us also. When we can understand scripture
is because the spirit of truth has revealed it to us.
Not because of our own wisdom.wakeup.
WQuote This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.HOW COULD THEY UNDERSTAND THE THINGS “TO COME “
WHAT YOU QUOTING ME ARE THINGS THEY DID RIGHT THEN AND THERE ,
T.By understanding the prophesies
one can know things to come.wakeup.
WVery good ,
But how would they know that that would be the correct interpretation
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,18:09) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 18 2013,11:17) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2013,01:33) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 17 2013,17:16) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 17 2013,18:50) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 09 2013,19:58) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 08 2013,18:46) I remember being taught once that baptism in the Spirit basically meant and ongoing supply of the Spirit of God. Whereas the breath was a once only event that animated us or gave us life. Hence eternal life is the spirit eternally given.
Never checked it out though.
Also, if I break up the words Holy Spirit, then we know that God is holy and he is a spirit. So is there a difference in breath and spirit. Or the spirit that Adam received and the one we receive when we are born=again. Are they different, or is it just given in different measure?
So the good get the spirit eternally and the wicked have the spirit taken away.
T8.1.Breath of life is in all living: animals included.
2.The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when He,
***the Spirit of truth***, is come, ***He will guide you into
all truth***:
for *He* shall not speak of *Himself*; but whatsoever
*He* shall hear, that shall *He* speak: and *He* will
shew you things to come.3.The spirit of truth is *IN* the Word itself
What comes out of the mouth of God is truth.
4.The soul is the essence of the person's life.
the person's life time works/deeds/caracter.
5. Born again is when one is born of the spirit at the
resurrection;he will be spirit.(not at babtism).
6.The bad will be judged according to their deeds.
Judged by the books.(rev20:12).wakeup.
WSo when did the spirit of truth came to them to show them the things to come ,???
T.Jesus speaking to the apostles.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.This is for us also. When we can understand scripture
is because the spirit of truth has revealed it to us.
Not because of our own wisdom.wakeup.
WQuote This promise has been fulfilled at pentecost.
The spirit of truth in the form of tongues of fire.
It is now that they understood Jesus teachings.HOW COULD THEY UNDERSTAND THE THINGS “TO COME “
WHAT YOU QUOTING ME ARE THINGS THEY DID RIGHT THEN AND THERE ,
T.By understanding the prophesies
one can know things to come.wakeup.
WVery good ,
But how would they know that that would be the correct interpretation
T.You can know if your interpretation
does not contradict the other prophesies
and the gospels.
All must be in harmony.wakeup.
W
Quote T. You can know if your interpretation
does not contradict the other prophesies
and the gospels.
All must be in harmony.wakeup.
BUT ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES RIGHT
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2013,04:49) W Quote T. You can know if your interpretation
does not contradict the other prophesies
and the gospels.
All must be in harmony.wakeup.
BUT ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES RIGHT
T.All has to be in harmony.
This is why they change some of the words in scripture to make it look as if, they are in harmony.wakeup.
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